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Nate- Your 'serious' demeanor was a great foil for...

2008-10-08T12:13:00.000-04:00

Nate- Your 'serious' demeanor was a great foil for Colbert. And I loved the baseball analogy...but let me offer you a better one.
McCain is in second place and he is 8 games down in the loss column. There are 8 games to play (8 being the number of 'toss up' states). Knowing baseball like you do, that makes Obama's magic number "1". Sorry about the Cubs AND the White Sox. I was pulling for an 'EL' Series.

I see Real Clear Politics has included the new Reu...

2008-10-08T10:16:00.000-04:00

I see Real Clear Politics has included the new Reuters/Zogby tracker in its averages, but still excludes the Research 2000 tracker.

That's the final straw, as far as I'm concerned. They're cherrypicking.

ACORN was raided in Vegas today and caught registe...

2008-10-08T01:18:00.000-04:00

ACORN was raided in Vegas today and caught registering the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys. The 7th state they've been caught engaging in fraud in so far this year. Story linked on RCP.

I find it unsettling that every ad on this site th...

2008-10-08T00:05:00.000-04:00

I find it unsettling that every ad on this site thus far has been one of those NewsMax "Obama finished" ads, or the Sarah Palin "Proven Maverick" ads. Interesting.

Is it me or will we be saying this SAME EXACT THIN...

2008-10-07T19:55:00.000-04:00

Is it me or will we be saying this SAME EXACT THING come the next debate. We said it in the first one, we will say it in this one, and we will say it the last one. We are putting it on McCain's grumpy ass and we won't let up until the 5th.

PeteKent is Joe McCarthy's illegitmate grandson.

2008-10-07T18:57:00.000-04:00

PeteKent is Joe McCarthy's illegitmate grandson.

Tonight, as soon as McCain says the word "maverick...

2008-10-07T18:42:00.000-04:00

Tonight, as soon as McCain says the word "maverick" again, Obama should retort:

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

This is a great site. Thanks for the work.

2008-10-07T18:19:00.000-04:00

This is a great site. Thanks for the work.

DanelWhenever a poll includes third party numbers,...

2008-10-07T18:04:00.000-04:00

Danel
Whenever a poll includes third party numbers, nate uses that version of the poll.

Hurray! PeteKent is back to serve as the donkey f...

2008-10-07T17:55:00.000-04:00

Hurray! PeteKent is back to serve as the donkey for all of us to pin tails on. Apparently he hasn't actually seen "Million Dollar Baby," since he doesn't seem to know how it ends [SPOILER ALERT!]

she dies.

Re: vote suppression. I have a lot of respect for Greg Palast but sometimes he writes from the perspective "I am pretty much the only one who has figured this danger out," when actually lots of people are paying attention to it. There is a team of (reportedly, but I don't remember now where I saw this number so caveat emptor) 10,000 or so lawyers fanned out through all kinds of states challenging voter caging, the "lose your home lose your vote" in MI and the like. The Obama campaign has called for lawyers to volunteer as poll observers also. Finally, we have more Democratic governors and Secretaries of State than in 2004, so the scope for any anti-Democratic shenanigans is more limited.

Gwen Jones, you realize that Hussein means "handso...

2008-10-07T17:54:00.000-04:00

Gwen Jones, you realize that Hussein means "handsome one" don't you? Really don't these right wing nutjobs have anything of substance? Seriously I'll take anything

@moondancer, 1:18pm:"Erratic is good. It plays to ...

2008-10-07T17:45:00.000-04:00

@moondancer, 1:18pm:
"Erratic is good. It plays to underlying fears that McCain is a character from Dr Strangelove. It's my main fear of him. He's an unstable hothead."

YES. McCain's now driving the Strangelove Express - and that's not a bus I want to be on.

If she made a two-hour speech extolling every poin...

2008-10-07T17:43:00.000-04:00

If she made a two-hour speech extolling every point of her and McCain's economic plan, I have a feeling you would still lambast her for being an idiot or out of touch.

If she made a 5-minute speech extolling every virtue of her and McCain's economic plan, you'd have to listen to the flute for 5 minutes.

I have to say, some of the freeper/other far-right...

2008-10-07T17:12:00.000-04:00

I have to say, some of the freeper/other far-right site comments about polls are pretty hilarious to read right now.

For instance, seeing people say that Scott Rasmussen was 'in the tank for Obama' had me in stitches.

On the really, REALLY wingnut sites (see: some rabid ex-Hillary anti-Obama webpages), there was a thread about how, get this: BILL O'REILLY IS IN THE TANK FOR OBAMA, and only Sean Hannity was left 'on their side'.

The desperation is palpable, and hilarious.

Don't screw it up in a major way in the last two debates and this is all yours, Barack.

Fuck the Republithugs and their awful fucking smea...

2008-10-07T17:07:00.000-04:00

Fuck the Republithugs and their awful fucking smear tactics. Those neo-cons are the bastards who are the terrorists.

I'm so ready for an Obama administration and not Lucifer (W) and the Beast (Cheney) at the helm anymore.

The first thing Obama should do is put them on trial for war crimes. Abso-freaking-lutely!

It's coming down to some serious shit, folks, the right-wing neo-con freedom hating scum are tring to burn our liberties to the ground.

It's time to take action. It's time to stand up to the conservatives. It's time for war. They drew the lines. They wanted a battle. Now they're going to get it.

I'm calling all of my liberal brothers to band together to join a new coalition for a new tomorrow - one where we can eradicate those useless fucking conservatives once and for all. I don't care if it takes an all-out genocide to get it done either.

Fuck the Republicans!!!!

I just thought I should point out that CNN actuall...

2008-10-07T17:02:00.000-04:00

I just thought I should point out that CNN actually gave McCain a five point lead in Indiana 51-46 not 48-46. Thought you might want to correct that.

I saw you on Olberman and decided to check the sight out. I like it alot and feel like you have an accurate grasp on the election. Good job

Looks like the McNasties have found this site. I g...

2008-10-07T16:53:00.001-04:00

Looks like the McNasties have found this site. I guess anyone who supports Obama-Biden is now a "domestic terrorist". If so, label me one, with pride. If there is anyone who has been a "domestic terrorist", it's been the Bush-Cheney regime.

But I guess when you're sinking in the polls faster than the Titanic, the only thing left to do is smear.

PeteKent, First, let's ask the simple question, wh...

2008-10-07T16:53:00.000-04:00

PeteKent,
First, let's ask the simple question, what is the final conclusion you want to make regarding your guilt by association remark? If you claim Obama is associated with shady characters, what does this indicate? Are you saying that Obama is a terrrorist? If yes, okay, then you are accusing the Democratic Party Nominee for President of being a terrorist. Say that statement over and over a few times. Yell, it out at the top of your lungs if you wish. And then take a deep breath and ask yourself how rational does that sound?
Now, take your own candidates, Gov. Palin especially. Would you apply the same standard to her? Her husband was for a number of years a registered member of a political party that espoused having the State of Alaska secede from the United States. She even attend some of these political party's events with him. Should we apply the same standard to her and not trust her because of who she associates with?

I think the error in this guilt by association effort is that it makes the accusers guilty of the same ethical crime as Senator Joseph McCarthy. Sen. McCarthy led witch hunts against individuals based on hearsay and association. Are you wishing to be as intolerant and unethical as McCarthy?

Next, I have concerns about your particular use of Sen. Obama's middle name. Rarely do we write out the full middle names of any political candidate. In news articles, discussions, and interviews, almost universally the middle names of politicians are simply not mentioned or only noted by the initial, as in 'W.' for President Bush. Your use of the middle name within the context of your accusatory statements would indicate there is a desire to highlight a questionable nature about the ethnic quality of Sen. Obama's middle name. That sir is prejudice.

Finally, your idea of a hidden majority is not supported by any fact, and I'm not mentioning polls. I'm talking about organizational ground operations. McCain's ground forces are anemic in numbers with far few offices than his opponent and a volunteer force that is almost non-existant compared to the vast numbers of Obama volunteer supporters.

Sir, in short, all your arguments have no rational or reasonable basis. I'm sorry to break the news to you.

Wow, the people who are trolling are just trying t...

2008-10-07T16:44:00.000-04:00

Wow, the people who are trolling are just trying to rack up Maverick Points are really obvious here. Come on. You can be a McCain supporter and make decent, rational comments. Give it a shot.

There's less than a month to go and the news just keeps getting better for Obama. As a supporter, I love seeing. Though the pessimist in me thinks his support will peak and then drop off a little unless McCain makes another big mistake. I think the election will be closer than the polls are showing today, but I don't have a good reason for it. As Colbert would say, I'm just thinking with my gut. I should probably stop that.

"Because the plan just isn't there. There's nothin...

2008-10-07T16:39:00.001-04:00

"Because the plan just isn't there. There's nothing."

If it's in a Palin speech, I believe the correct word is nothin'. ;)