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2009-02-08T03:40:00.000-05:00

According to Keith Olbermann,Paterson will announc...

2009-01-23T00:55:00.000-05:00

According to Keith Olbermann,Paterson will announce that he's picked Gallibrand tomorrow (Friday).

isn't it spelled "schtick"?

2009-01-22T23:59:00.000-05:00

isn't it spelled "schtick"?

Posting in the relevant thread, but...I think 538 ...

2009-01-22T20:16:00.000-05:00

Posting in the relevant thread, but...I think 538 favorite Kristen Gillibrand is going to get the seat.

Now can we PLEASE stop qualifying/disqualifying people based on what their last name is? Thanks.

Nate,I'm really surprised that so few people thoug...

2009-01-22T16:49:00.000-05:00

Nate,
I'm really surprised that so few people thought you were even partially correct. I thought you were spot on (or at least highly probable [;-)]).

i take serious issue with being compared to muleri...

2009-01-22T16:00:00.000-05:00

i take serious issue with being compared to mulerider.

Notoriety=notorious. You mean notability.

2009-01-22T14:14:00.000-05:00

Notoriety=notorious. You mean notability.

Paul, I do agree. Political dynasties smack too mu...

2009-01-22T13:43:00.000-05:00

Paul, I do agree. Political dynasties smack too much of the inherited titles of the aristocratic families of Old Europe, which we broke away from. The Dream of America is one where anyone stands an equal chance of success, bolstered not by primogeniture or wealth, but by merit alone. For us to promote someone to the rank of Senator on no basis at all other than family name is an obscenity.

Caroline Kennedy is a wonderful person. She and I share many common core values. However, she is like myself in that neither of us have any political experience at all. Neither one of us is qualified for the job, and while it would shock most everyone here if Paterson were to appoint me (especially since I haven't asked to be considered-I myself would probably collapse from a heart attack), it seemed almost natural for many to assume that Mz Kennedy should ascend to that role. The only difference between us is our names. Hers is a political dynasty, and I'd be rather surprised if most of you could even pronounce mine, let alone recognize it as famous.

Mz Kennedy would have hated the role anyway. that line of work affords one zero privacy, and the media are merciless (as they must be) to elected representatives. Politics at the federal level is a bloodsport, and even your closest allies will, if told they can benefit personally from walking over you, step on your throat to see if that would benefit them more. Mz Kennedy has a kind heart, and prefers to do things privately without alot of fanfare. I doubt she would ever destroy an opponent in the Senate, even if her political survival depended on it.

Andrew Cuomo is, however, quite adept at political survival. He has displayed a certain degree of integrity, such as when he stood up to Elliot Spitzer during that brief administration. At the time, the Governor was arguably the most powerful and popular figure in Albany, and a member of Cuomo's own party. At the time, Joe Bruno, the political boss of Upstate New York's GOP, was the man most reviled by Democrats (with good reason). The clash between Bruno and Spitzer would have presented most of us with a clear choice as to which side to line up on. Cuomo refused to treat it as if it were a football competition, and rather chose to do what he believed was the more ethical thing. While Spitzer would later implode spectacularly as Client Number 9, at the time Cuomo made this decision, Spitzer was the man most likely to succeed Obama as the next Presidential nominee for the Democrats in 2016.

To take a stand against the opposite party of your own, particularly a reprehensible figure like Bruno was the easy thing to do. To stand up to the most powerful force within his own party, a man widely seen as angelic at the time, would have been the most difficult decision Cuomo could have made.

And he chose ethics over political expediency.

That's what we can expect from Senator Cuomo of New York. He has the nerve that few of us possess, including myself.

I hate political dynasties and royal families. It'...

2009-01-22T12:54:00.000-05:00

I hate political dynasties and royal families. It's one reason I preferred Obama to Clinton.

The media vastly over-over-estimates the amount of...

2009-01-22T11:57:00.000-05:00

The media vastly over-over-estimates the amount of affection people of NY have for the Kennedy family. Baby Boomer nostalgia for Camelot is irritating. Her "inevitable, because I am a Kennedy" strategy just didn't work, and probably raised people's hackles.

Princess Caroline just got a strong taste of the nasty rough and tumble of politics, and she ran. She should stick to the private section, I'm sure she can do more good there.

There are a lot of reasons flying around as to WHY...

2009-01-22T11:51:00.000-05:00

There are a lot of reasons flying around as to WHY she's declared, but I think it's a good move (for both her and NY) that she's not the chosen one to fill the NY Senate seat. It would mar Obama's aura of working one's way up to the ladder of success...and as the post implies, she would probably go crazy with the new limelight.

...talking about nepotism, there's always BILL C...

2009-01-22T11:40:00.000-05:00

...talking about nepotism, there's always *BILL* Clinton .......

If I were Governor Paterson, I would want to send ...

2009-01-22T11:29:00.000-05:00

If I were Governor Paterson, I would want to send a signal to the press that they shouldn't try to predict his decisions. Best way to do that?

Appoint Rod Blagojevich to be the Senator for New York!

If nothing else, Harry Reid would go into a apoplectic fit.

Wow, now this is INTWERESTING at a whole bunch of ...

2009-01-22T10:00:00.000-05:00

Wow, now this is INTWERESTING at a whole bunch of levels:

"Cheney Pressed for Libby Pardon
Noting a sharp disagreement with his former boss, former Vice President Dick Cheney told the Weekly Standard that his former chief of staff, Scooter Libby, deserved a presidential pardon.

Said Cheney: "Scooter Libby is one of the most capable and honorable men I've ever known. He's been an outstanding public servant throughout his career. He was the victim of a serious miscarriage of justice, and I strongly believe that he deserved a presidential pardon. Obviously, I disagree with President Bush's decision."

In addition to this issue, Cheney said he disagreed with Bush just four other times: On a gay marriage ban; on firing Donald Rumsfeld; on Washington, D.C.'s gun ban; and on North Korea. "

From politicalwire.com

Well, I think it's a shame. It would have been ni...

2009-01-22T09:37:00.000-05:00

Well, I think it's a shame. It would have been nice for us to get a Senator who *wasn't* a sleazy political hack.

To give you an idea of just how paranoid and full ...

2009-01-22T09:15:00.000-05:00

To give you an idea of just how paranoid and full of hate the wingnuts were about Caroline Kennedy being appointed to fill Hillary's seat, the hatred directed at Al Franken was nothing compared to what they launched at her. It was actually quite shocking. One minute wingnuts couldn't give a shit about her, the next she was the most despised woman in FReeptard USA.

Close one there. After rejecting a Clinton Dynasty...

2009-01-22T09:02:00.000-05:00

Close one there.

After rejecting a Clinton Dynasty, and waving good bye to the Bush Dynasty (well there is still Jebb. The one who wasn't quite dumb enough to be a Republican Presodent), a Kennedy resugence might have been bad form.

No, not just another Kennedy Senator, a Kennedy President. Obama as an adopted Kennedy would look all too plausable. It was mooted during the primaries.

If Caroline had been parachuted into the position ahead of politicians who sweated to earned the chance, who could easily refute the idea that the fix was in? Obama looking out for his sister?

Lets face it. Kennedy cospiracy theories have allways been popular.

Well, the only people more ecstatic about Caroline...

2009-01-22T09:00:00.000-05:00

Well, the only people more ecstatic about Caroline Kennedy dropping out, apart from Peter King and Kos, are the FReeptards. These morons have been insanely paranoid for weeks about "Princess Caroline" destroying Mooseburger's presidential chances in 2016. Incrdibly, they actually think their most beloved blithering idiot is running in 2012 and 2016. Forget the fact she was the biggest drag on presidential ticket in GOP history, they're still convinced she'll win by a landslide against President Obama. Just not Caroline Kennedy.

Personally, I reckon Kennedy would have made an exellenet senator, but in terms of PR, she let herself down. The only other option was Andrew Cuomo and he should be the favorite to replace Hillary. Kirsten Gillibrand would be a bad appointment. She's conservative and the Dems would likely lose her district.

DCM in FL said... "Patterson is doing worse in man...

2009-01-22T08:35:00.000-05:00

DCM in FL said...

"Patterson is doing worse in managing this selection than Blago did !!!"

Are you serious? When I see more than one exclamation point after a statement, I sometimes think that someone may have been going for intentional hyperbole, because the notion that a governor who won't be going to prison for managing one of his duties somehow did it worse than another governor who (based on the current evidence) will be going to prison as the result of managing the same duties is, well...stupid.

I find some of the commenter indignance in this thread to be morbidly funny. There are people - longtime posters, to be sure - who need to take a few deep breaths and repeat the phrase "This is the nature of political commentary" until it sticks. There is nothing wrong with taking / considering / investigating / opining on one side of an issue, and I happen to think that Nate does a very insightful job at doing it.

If the reports had turned out not to have been true...then things would have been status quo ante, unless of course, you believe that commentary by some guy that Caroline Kennedy probably couldn't pick out of a line-up would force her hand.

(No offense Nate - I love you.)

Some of you may have seen that big to-do on Tuesday. The election is over, and has been for some time. Before getting all gaga about boxing Nate in to "what he does best," you could at least suffer through some discussion of the various results, repercussions, one-offs, and unintended consequences of that election.

Don't worry - 2010, and 2012 will be here soon enough...just ask Randall Munroe.

http://www.xkcd.com/500/

Nate, this is a nice reading of what we have seen ...

2009-01-22T08:20:00.000-05:00

Nate, this is a nice reading of what we have seen unfold. It certainly fits. Thank you.

I'm not sure this is the best (or even close) use ...

2009-01-22T07:15:00.000-05:00

I'm not sure this is the best (or even close) use of your talents. I really, really enjoyed your blog during the pre-election cycle. Where are the polls to back up your assertions/speculations? Why not just let her be instead of becoming a gossip blog? Surely there's something else to write about than what MIGHT be going on in her heart and head. I thought you were about the numbers.

Bloomberg would be the real wildcard, and a great ...

2009-01-22T07:13:00.000-05:00

Bloomberg would be the real wildcard, and a great appointment. A good mind for business is what the Seante needs right now.

STepper proves himself to be an idiot. The New Yo...

2009-01-22T07:10:00.000-05:00

STepper proves himself to be an idiot. The New York Times, MSNBC, NBC, and lots of reputable new agencies went with this before Nate. Go find a fact before you make yourself look stupid.

It looks to me like Patterson was going a different direction and let her know to withdraw instead of being embarrassed. A face saving move.

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According to Keith Olbermann,Paterson will announc...

isn't it spelled "schtick"?

Posting in the relevant thread, but...I think 538 ...

Nate,I'm really surprised that so few people thoug...

i take serious issue with being compared to muleri...

Notoriety=notorious. You mean notability.

Paul, I do agree. Political dynasties smack too mu...

I hate political dynasties and royal families. It'...

The media vastly over-over-estimates the amount of...

There are a lot of reasons flying around as to WHY...

...talking about nepotism, there's always BILL C...

If I were Governor Paterson, I would want to send ...

Wow, now this is INTWERESTING at a whole bunch of ...

Well, I think it's a shame. It would have been ni...

To give you an idea of just how paranoid and full ...

Close one there. After rejecting a Clinton Dynasty...

Well, the only people more ecstatic about Caroline...

DCM in FL said... "Patterson is doing worse in man...

Nate, this is a nice reading of what we have seen ...

I'm not sure this is the best (or even close) use ...

Bloomberg would be the real wildcard, and a great ...

STepper proves himself to be an idiot. The New Yo...

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According to Keith Olbermann,Paterson will announc...

isn't it spelled "schtick"?

Posting in the relevant thread, but...I think 538 ...

Nate,I'm really surprised that so few people thoug...

i take serious issue with being compared to muleri...

Notoriety=notorious. You mean notability.

Paul, I do agree. Political dynasties smack too mu...

I hate political dynasties and royal families. It'...

The media vastly over-over-estimates the amount of...

There are a lot of reasons flying around as to WHY...

...talking about nepotism, there's always *BILL* C...

If I were Governor Paterson, I would want to send ...

Wow, now this is INTWERESTING at a whole bunch of ...

Well, I think it's a shame. It would have been ni...

To give you an idea of just how paranoid and full ...

Close one there. After rejecting a Clinton Dynasty...

Well, the only people more ecstatic about Caroline...

DCM in FL said... "Patterson is doing worse in man...

Nate, this is a nice reading of what we have seen ...

I'm not sure this is the best (or even close) use ...

Bloomberg would be the real wildcard, and a great ...

STepper proves himself to be an idiot. The New Yo...

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...talking about nepotism, there's always BILL C...