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2009-02-09T18:26:00.000-05:00

Time was 2008 and so it begins as written the end times are upon us. All shall love him and revere him as he walks across the land, some say he is the second coming, most are wrong. Time was, Job loss reaches an all time hi, approval ratings begin to plummet. Stimulous package is proposed with such spending as condoms for 7th graders, money for Acorn "proven to have commited fraud, yet this to was swept under the carpet". A new kind of Evil is coming. A party political tries to ensure they will remain in power no matter the costs. Record numbers of unemployed get government assistance and can afford more food than I can someone who is employed. We wait, in the shadows for the signs to come. We will know how to combat this evil, truely it is becoming a rare thing to be an American. The new minority, American....how does that make you feel in a world of liberalism. We wait....our time will come....we wait, Americans all....

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2009-02-08T22:05:00.000-05:00

Mike in Maryland, maybe you should have moved to I...

2008-11-06T17:47:00.000-05:00

Mike in Maryland, maybe you should have moved to Indianapolis instead - Marion County went 64% for Obama.

Matthew, my point about southern IL/western PA is that one's personal experiences of living in a state mean NOTHING with regard to whether the state is going to be blue or red. The people who are ashamed of Indiana from their personal experience of having lived in a conservative area of the state make no sense. If they had lived in a conservative area of Illinois or Pennsylvania, would they be proud that other areas of the state made it so Obama got the EVs? People are basically being ashamed of proud of where state borders happened to be drawn hundreds of years ago. It's embarrassingly daft.

Jason B. -I've said frequently that Indiana (old h...

2008-11-06T11:55:00.000-05:00

Jason B. -

I've said frequently that Indiana (old home) is red the same way that Minnesota (new home) is blue: by a matter of degrees rather than overwhelmingly. (To our eternal credit, we're not Kentucky.) I mean, let's look at the breakdown: of our senators, one is a Democrat (albeit not an excessively liberal one) and a Republican who's not overwhelmingly locked step-in-step with the party; our House is all over the place, depending on district; and we bounce between Democrat and Republican governors all the time (though, to be fair, that breakdown frequently makes a mockery of one measured by liberal/conservative standards). And you are most certainly right to point out that large swaths of Indiana vote overwhelmingly liberal/Democrat.

However, I must echo other voices on here: I never, EVER would have expected Indiana to go to Barack. Why? Because enough of the state, at least in presidential elections since the 1960s, has always been enough to turn our EC votes towards the Republican candidate, even when they were against more "centrist" Democrats like Clinton. Thus, I thought Obama was going to do well, perhaps even be a contender, but that the state's conservatism - as a whole, mind you - would overcome even the large numbers of new and returning voters. (In that vein, your argument about people from southern Illinois or Western Pennsylvania doesn't make that much sense in light of this strong historical trend.)

jason b. -try voting time after time after time KN...

2008-11-05T19:22:00.000-05:00

jason b. -

try voting time after time after time KNOWING that your vote does not help your candidate because of the EC. Couple that with absolutely no attention from the candidates and it gets a little old.

Being from Anderson, I should note that the City is home to the International Church of God and also has their university, AU. Very god-fearing, yet unionized. Now those union jobs are ALL GONE. Perfect Storm = pride for us disenfranchsied Hoosier-democrats who doesn't necessarily fear god.

Well I hope now Obama going to be a good president...

2008-11-05T18:53:00.000-05:00

Well I hope now Obama going to be a good president, but it already looks like he not going to keep any of his promises, Last night in his speech he said, he mite not be able to do anything in the first Year or even in his FIrst term, Tell you this right now,, he will not make a second term,,THinking he can sit on his lazy ass, thinking he just got a job at the DMV and take his time, If something don't happen in 2 years he Dust,

As someone who grew up in Indiana, I am proud that...

2008-11-05T17:25:00.000-05:00

As someone who grew up in Indiana, I am proud that the Hoosier state helped in this historic win for Barack Obama!! The ultra-conservatism of the state is a major reason I moved to Maryland in my early 20s.

Now, can anyone find some way to get rid of Kosciusko County? Historically the reddest county in the state, and kept that distinction again yesterday bu voting for McLameBrain by a 68.1 to 30.7% margin.

Oh, and can someone investigate why it takes Randolph County 5 or more hours to count and report the ballots? Last May, Randolph County didn't report any returns until after 11:00 pm, and last night, it was closer to 1:00 am before any reports came in. With less than 30,000 population, you'd think they could count ballots a lot faster!

The people who say they are from Indiana and Can't...

2008-11-05T16:26:00.000-05:00

The people who say they are from Indiana and Can't Believe This Ever Would Happen either (A) don't know what just happened or (B) have some stupid beliefs. I mean, can people who grow up in southern Illinois or western Pennsylvania "not believe it" when those states go blue every four years?!

People in Lake County or Indianapolis or Anderson or Terre Haute or Evansville or the major college towns are Hoosiers too, and the idea that they would go for Obama in big numbers has never been that unbelievable.

The idea that you are a liberal who could not be "proud" to be from any of those places is almost as pathetic as the puffed-up pride of people from the distant western suburbs of Chicago that they are "from Chicago".

The reformation/de-klanification of Indiana is com...

2008-11-05T14:51:00.000-05:00

The reformation/de-klanification of Indiana is completed.

It began in 1923 when Notre Dame students battled the KKK in St. Joe County and threw many of them off of the LaSalle Street bridge in South Bend.

The process would have been completed by RFK in 1968, by both his primary win (in no small part due to his campaigning in South Bend on Dyngus Day) where he turned back the the Southern Racist Wallace Democrats and the status quo - the governor running as Johnson's favorite son, and by his calming speech in Indy when MLK was assassinated.

It's finally been completed by Obama who has rekindled that same RFK coalition of the youth, the educated, african americans, catholics, the children, grandchildren and great grandchildren of immigrants, and the middle class who want the American dream something better for each succeeding generation.

That VA has turned blue (and NC/MO might still) reflects not that the South has reformed itself but the fact that enough of "the coalition" has moved there and transformed those places.

Let the Southern Democratic Party rest in peace, never to rise again.

It's time for that vast still mostly rural african american population in the South. to leave the South behind. Go West, to Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, Wyoming, Utah, and Arizona.

And let's get "the overcoming" finished, once and for all.

It looks like Barr may have been Indiana's Nader t...

2008-11-05T14:01:00.000-05:00

It looks like Barr may have been Indiana's Nader this year. He pulled 1.1% of the vote, and the Obama-McCain margin was <1%. Assuming, that is, that most of Barr's supporters were pulled from the Republican base.

Brett Marty (and Lauren from Columbus) won Indiana...

2008-11-05T11:24:00.000-05:00

Brett Marty (and Lauren from Columbus) won Indiana for Obama.

1. McCain leads slightly in the polls.
2. Brett Marty posts pic of Lauren.
3. 538.com gets record hits.
4. Young men and open-minded young women from around the country flock to Indiana to volunteer.
5. Obama legs out the win, due to ground game.

I worked these last few days with Obama's Get Out ...

2008-11-05T10:25:00.000-05:00

I worked these last few days with Obama's Get Out The Vote effort here in Allen County, Indiana. The staffers and volunteers did an amazing, tireless job. An hour before the polls closed yesterday, we were still out canvassing with door hangers just in case someone came home from work, realized they still needed to vote, and got in another vote for Obama. Our county went to McCain, but it was narrow, far narrower than the downticket races here. This is a great moment for Indiana.

Hey! That's my local campaign office!It's still ...

2008-11-05T10:22:00.000-05:00

Hey! That's *my* local campaign office!

It's still sinking in what has happened, and I'm still not quite sure I believe it.

Nate, thanks for giving this math geek something to chew on all these months. Congrats on a job well done.

We won Indiana! As part of Obama's ground-game her...

2008-11-05T09:14:00.000-05:00

We won Indiana! As part of Obama's ground-game here in Indiana - I have to say we had an amazing team of volunteers! And my thanks go out to all the hours they spent calling, knocking doors, and leading the way!

We won Indiana!!! I spent the last 3 days voluntee...

2008-11-05T08:39:00.000-05:00

We won Indiana!!! I spent the last 3 days volunteering there, away from my home in Chicago. Yesterday I spent 8 hours training volunteers to go door to door to help get out the vote. And it worked! I feel so involved, I feel so empowered, I feel vindicated.
Today I stand tall and proud to be an American.
It's been a long time comin', but Change has finally come.

There are very few times I can say this and today ...

2008-11-05T08:36:00.000-05:00

There are very few times I can say this and today is one of those times. I'm proud to say that I live in Indiana and have lived here for most of my life. And I'm proud of my state.

I have been saying it for months and months. The ...

2008-11-05T08:31:00.000-05:00

I have been saying it for months and months. The momentum on the ground here in the Great State of Indiana has been amazing since the primary. You could sense then that a huge shift was coming and to wake up today, for the first time in my adult life, that my democrate vote in Indiana finally counted for something, is such an amazing feeling!

Can you believe it Hoosiers, our State is BLUE!!!!!!!

Well, Nate. Clearly you've done an absolutely fant...

2008-11-05T06:47:00.000-05:00

Well, Nate. Clearly you've done an absolutely fantastic job predicting this election. Your model seems to have done very well also. Obama held what he held, lost what you said he would definitely lose, and the ones that are very close are the ones you had down as being very close.
Does it get much better than that?
Not without time travel.

To all of the volunteers I worked with this summer...

2008-11-05T04:35:00.000-05:00

To all of the volunteers I worked with this summer, to the organizers who who truly inspired me to make a difference, to the canvassers who turned out on 80 degree days even though the election was still two months out, and to everyone who helped this cause -- thank you. You have no idea how rewarding this night was, and how inspired I am to work every bit as hard now to effect the continued change we need in America.

Also, shouout to everyone in PORTER COUNTY! We did it!!!

we worked our butts off in indiana, and victory fe...

2008-11-05T04:22:00.000-05:00

we worked our butts off in indiana, and victory feels so good!

my home state finally does me proud!

@el oso, re the sulking righties...Wow...I think t...

2008-11-05T04:16:00.000-05:00

@el oso, re the sulking righties...

Wow...I think those are the ones down the street from me that keep defacing my property. One guy reshingled his roof to read "McCain 08." I'm hoping he has decent health care benefits.

No fun living a stone's throw from west Texas these last few weeks...