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Ah my erstwhile home state. I've lived all over (F...

2008-09-30T01:43:00.000-04:00

Ah my erstwhile home state. I've lived all over (FL, HI, NYC, MA) and I still want to end up in RI when it's all said and done. Great people, diversity, colleges, food, beaches. Plus proximity to Boston and NY.

I'd like to add Claiborne Pell, whose grant helps millions of kids in college each year.

Abacad, I can't believe you brought up Mollicone and Traficante, as if they represent anyone. Every state has is shady characters, it's just that in a little place like RI they get blown out of proportion.

And look, I'm black (actually Cape Verdean) and i've never experienced any racism. there are too many ethnicities here for any of that to take hold.

Sorry if I missed the answer to this, already, but...

2008-09-29T16:12:00.000-04:00

Sorry if I missed the answer to this, already, but why are these values out of 50 instead of 51? Do you not have the data for DC?

I think Rhode Island is a great state to live. Fi...

2008-09-29T13:35:00.000-04:00

I think Rhode Island is a great state to live. First of all, to respond to a couple of the people on this board, Rhode Island is no more corrupt that any other state. Its disadvantage PR-wise comes from "Don Imus a-hole types", who blow the Cianci thing out of proportion because they love Sopranos-esque fantasies. Many idiots from outside the region think we're all in the Mafia. That's Hollywood stuff.

Our state has a great quality of life-- it's been improving since the 80's. Rhody went for Hillary, because she and Bill have visited the state a zillion times in the past 16 years, and they have many friends here; and because the Clinton years were prosperous compared to the 12 total nightmare Bush years. Obama, while I voted for him and am thrilled with him, certainly in March was an unknown quantity back then. And the state went for Hillary as a known quantity, who would be able to improve the economy.

The state has typical race problems that any state typically would. Not good, but no worse than any other. The state has a zillion diverse ethnicities and cultures, all of whom mix pretty well. Catholics dominate the state, but there's no 1910-style Yankee-Immigrant or Protestant-Catholic tensions-conflicts anymore, because of intermarriage and new generations burying that insanity. Catholics, in general, are more like St Francis of Assisi types, rather than Bob Dornan types.

Generally, there's no more than three degrees of separation between any Rhode Islander. The state is like one big municipality.

Crime is pretty low. Public schools are solid. Rhode Islanders put a lot of emphasis on education. Colleges here are excellent, both state and private. URI for engineering; RISD for the fine arts; Bryant for business; RIC for teaching; PC excellent liberal arts; Brown one of the best in the country. Roger Williams and Salve, etc, are here too; The bay is great in the summer. We're an hour from Boston, and 2-3 hours to New York. Close to the skiing of NH and Vermont. Lots of historic points of interest. Excellent restaurants. Safe neighborhoods in general.

I was born here, grew up here, and still live here; and my wife is from Florida; and we're very happy to be raising our kids here. I don't understand the bad rap Rhode Island is getting from people on this board.

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2008-09-29T12:13:00.000-04:00

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In the 2000 primary, RI had one of the highest percentages for McCain over Bush, 60.2-36.5

Clinton won RI big in the 2008 primary because the political machine, the super-delegates, came out early for her, ahead of any interest in the race, and pushed for her in public forums.

My sports analogy would be "The Longest Game" played by Pawtucket Red Sox versus the Rochester Red Wings. Why? Not only did the PawSox go on to win after an unnecessary game suspension, but this seems to have been the longest campaign in history :-P

Also the game featured two Hall of Fame stars, Cal Ripkin Jr, the Iron Man, with a loooooong professional record (despite injuries) and Wade Boggs, All-Star slugger.

I though it was Me, Myself and Irene that was in R...

2008-09-29T10:29:00.000-04:00

I though it was Me, Myself and Irene that was in RI...?

abacab has it spot on. RI is v. racist (despite t...

2008-09-29T10:15:00.000-04:00

abacab has it spot on. RI is v. racist (despite the mythology to the contrary), is radically under-educated and is reactionary. The response to Obama has been cool at best (just b/c there aren't McCain signs doesn't mean people don't support him) and it is amazing to see how many people "just don't know what he stands for" or "are afraid for him". This may not be the case for everyone who makes those comments, but it frequently comes across as a sad attempt to hide racism.

And I'd just like to throw out there that this state, no matter how much people want to deny it, is absurdly corrupt and five good people don't balance that. Coupled with the second highest rate of unemployment in the nation, a shrinking population, declining median income, non-existent job growth, incredibly high taxes, an entitlement culture, a lack of political will to change anything, and, lest we forget, the worst drivers in the nation, I have a hard time understanding what is so great about this State.

"So why, if the state is that Democratic, does RI ...

2008-09-29T08:54:00.000-04:00

"So why, if the state is that Democratic, does RI have a Republican Governor?"

Wyoming's governor is a Democrat. People like to split tickets so a party doesn't get too comfortable.

RI is a great place to live -- abacad, it's true t...

2008-09-29T07:13:00.000-04:00

RI is a great place to live -- abacad, it's true that there has been a line of corrupt politicians, no doubt about it. But, we've also elected Chafee Sr., Chafee Jr., Jack Reed, Claudine Schneider, Patrick Kennedy. Some good people.

A few months ago I sat in Blue State Coffee House with Barack's brother-in-law, who at the time was basketball coach at Brown. He's moved up the NCAA ladder of success now (Oregon State?), but I still have vivid and warm memories of listening to him give interviews.

One of the most interesting developments of the la...

2008-09-29T03:13:00.000-04:00

One of the most interesting developments of the last week is the expansion of the tipping point states. These have been fairly static, but as the polls improve, and the map expands, there seems to be so many new ways to reach 270. Even Texas is currently not white.

The Bailout Bill: First ImpressionsObama 292, McCa...

2008-09-29T03:00:00.000-04:00

The Bailout Bill: First Impressions

Obama 292, McCain 246

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Rhode Island is as competitive as Alabama right no...

2008-09-29T02:56:00.000-04:00

Rhode Island is as competitive as Alabama right now.

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the old perfesser said...So why, if the state is t...

2008-09-29T02:53:00.000-04:00

the old perfesser said...

So why, if the state is that Democratic, does RI have a Republican Governor?

Not sure what point you're trying to make here. Traditionally "red" states and "blue" states have Governor's from the other side of the isle. My home state of Connecticut has had Republican governors for as long as I can remember, but is solidly blue in presidential elections and thus considered a "blue" state. (Perhaps with the exception of Reagan and H.W., any earlier is before my time.)

Palin is probably safe unless the party elders dec...

2008-09-29T02:51:00.000-04:00

Palin is probably safe unless the party elders decide to pressure McCain. They will probably wait until after the VP debates just to make sure she is not a total flake.

Does anyone know if the RNC has announced any changes in funding strategy - such as spending more on downticket Senate races or promising to coordinate spending more closely with the Congressional races?

Just a thought on the notion that the wedding will...

2008-09-29T02:39:00.001-04:00

Just a thought on the notion that the wedding will be a winner for the McCain/Palin ticket. Pictures of an eight month pregnant child marrying a high school jock who weeks ago professed an interest in partying and playing hockey is going to simply be fodder for derision, not a vote garnering event.

The idea that the wedding would shut down the camp...

2008-09-29T02:39:00.000-04:00

The idea that the wedding would shut down the campaign for a week is ludicrous.

This IS McCain's campaign we're talking about. He'll try anything this election, without any regard to its sensibility. Much like how he'd run our country.

Smallest percentage of Republicans... wow, I just ...

2008-09-29T02:36:00.000-04:00

Smallest percentage of Republicans... wow, I just found my dream state. I don't care what economic factors are in play (1st or 2nd worst unemployment), what the weather is like (yeah, cold I know), and you have those Ghost Hunters dudes running around... but just the sheer idea of a state with less Repubs gives me the warm fuzzies all over. I live in Calif... sure, we're blue... except I live in the friggin' Bible Belt red-zone of Calif. Who knew Calif had a Bible Belt? I'm surrounded by ancient white Republican zombies, er, I mean, retirees... they're everywhere. Some nights I wake up in a cold sweat. Are they at our door? Waiting to rip the flesh from our bones with their dentures? Yeah, I gotta start checking out real estate in RI.

I don't know about head colds, but Clinton had lar...

2008-09-29T02:34:00.000-04:00

I don't know about head colds, but Clinton had laryngitis or something (he was very hoarse) in a debate against Bush Sr., and he won resoundingly.

In the history of televised debates, has it ever b...

2008-09-29T02:30:00.000-04:00

In the history of televised debates, has it ever been the case that one of the two debaters has had a head-cold?

Nixon had the flu...

Here's a completely off-the-wall question that has...

2008-09-29T02:28:00.000-04:00

Here's a completely off-the-wall question that has been bugging me lately:

In the history of televised debates, has it ever been the case that one of the two debaters has had a head-cold?

Given the sorts of things that newcasters fixate on after the debate, it seems like a bad case of the sniffles would de facto lose the debate for the poor sick sap...