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2009-01-16T04:49:00.000-05:00

Love graphic map. Initially liked B and switched t...

2009-01-06T20:10:00.000-05:00

Love graphic map. Initially liked B and switched to D for greater understanding of other aspects of the vote. I prefer the "x"s in B to the strikes in D. Please don't use a geographic map, truly find this one more amusing...if you feel obliged (for some strange reason) to use the geo map, then give us others a viewing option so we can change to blocks only! Lovin' all you do Nate.

Option Dis the easiest to quickly visually disting...

2009-01-05T22:47:00.000-05:00

Option D

is the easiest to quickly visually distinguish between aye/nay and between red/blue/green at a glance, as well as easiest on the eyes in terms of providing contrast and information with the least amount of visual noise.

"D" - I agree with Pas, above. 1. I like the squar...

2009-01-04T13:43:00.000-05:00

"D" - I agree with Pas, above.

1. I like the square coloring on D because it makes the Aye votes stand out the most. My biggest concern is the vote, not the party affiliation.

2. I still struggle with the colors on gray for Nay votes, but that may because I am partially colorblind.

3. I do not think you need the fourth set of Vacant votes that D largely leaves alone.

Thanks DCM! I hope Nate sees it. I'd be happy to...

2009-01-04T12:20:00.000-05:00

Thanks DCM! I hope Nate sees it. I'd be happy to help him set it up, if he lacks the graphics skills.

Nate, of the maps, I prefer 3, although 4 would be...

2009-01-03T16:12:00.000-05:00

Nate, of the maps, I prefer 3, although 4 would be much better if you removed the strikeouts, as they do too much to obscure the letters in the squares. Actually, the more I look at 4, the better it seems if you eliminate the strikethroughs. One suggestion: if you could, put up a link to a larger image for those who might find it hard to read/see. Keep up the good work!

I like the distortion - it conveys relative import...

2009-01-03T15:28:00.000-05:00

I like the distortion - it conveys relative importance better than a geographical representation. But instead of white space around each state, a black border would stand out more against the white page background.

I also like the color coding (red/blue), and the left/top = senior is fine as well. But the yea/nay coding needs work. The thin line X and black state abbreviation works in contrast to the Republican red, but is tough to see against the Democrat blue.

Maybe dark red or blue background with white text for Yea votes, and light red or blue with black text for Nay votes.

Of the four, I vote for version C. Any version of ...

2009-01-03T14:31:00.000-05:00

Of the four, I vote for version C. Any version of a strikeout (the Xs or slashes) impedes legibility. The black background for nays provides stark contrast between Ayes and Nays at the cost of the visual impact of the party affiliations. It depends on what you want to emphasize, the vote or the affiliation. Would it be possible to highlight the Aye votes by outlining them? Or do a light shadow on the Nays? Or drop the saturation to 50% on the Nays? I guess what I'm getting at is, I would try to preserve the red/blue scheme and find an alternate way to indicate Y/N.

PSSSTyour new map is better than any of Nate's ver...

2009-01-03T13:36:00.000-05:00

PSSST

your new map is better than any of Nate's versions so far.

the yellow for IND works much better than green - especially for anyone who is color-blind !

and by using the map as background, it is obvious what state the votes were cast in on any size monitor or printout as compared to trying to discern the name of the state in Nate's distorted cartogram with abbreviations in the squares

now IF the state name didn't matter [but it does], then Nate's models would be adequate - but as is they fail

I think I like version D, it's a good visual overv...

2009-01-03T12:57:00.000-05:00

I think I like version D, it's a good visual overview of how much D and R support a bill got without the excessive colorization of C. That said, I certainly hope to see some version of this quick glance map in action - it's great!

Thanks for the great feedback, DCM! I agree that ...

2009-01-03T10:48:00.000-05:00

Thanks for the great feedback, DCM! I agree that the X's were too bold -- I've slimmed them down so it's easier to see the color underneath. I've also changed the independents from green to yellow, as you suggested -- makes it easier to distinguish them from the Dems.

The reason I prefer to use X's instead of circles for the 'nay' votes is that 'X' is an intuitive symbol for 'no'... The goal for any mapmaker should be to make the map as self-explanatory as possible, hence the 'X' = no. Ideally, readers should be able to understand a map without even looking at the key.

Nate's tries are admirable, but IMHO they are far too busy and complex for the relatively small amount of data being shown. I think the reason they're so busy is that he has to put the state abbreviations inside every box, and the reason he has to have the abbreviations is that he isn't using a geographic map as a base. By using a geographic base, I was able to remove all the text from the map and make it way more simple than Nate's versions.

Click here to see my new version of the map.

Enjoy :-)

I like C, with bolder typeface. And I like the di...

2009-01-03T05:08:00.000-05:00

I like C, with bolder typeface. And I like the distortion, because otherwise you can't see what the east coast is doing.

To follow up on PSSST's excellent example linked i...

2009-01-03T02:39:00.000-05:00

To follow up on PSSST's excellent example linked in the comment above @ 7:36 PM...

NATE, how about using your own 'PRE-ELECTION PROJECTION' map & cartogram combo above on the right side of the page as a template...

as PSSST suggests & shows graphically, use the geographic USA map as a background

then over lay each state with 2 squares [or circles] as you did for NE & ME to represent the senate seats + 1 for DC/VP tie-breaker

AYE - squares of dark RED & BLUE & YELLOW [not green]for INDs within the borders of each state

NAY - circles [or squares] of light red & pale blue & pale yellow for INDs

NOT VOTING - circles [or squares] of light red or pale blue with cross hatching

VACANT - circles [or squares] of empty or light gray

remember, sometimes a NAY vote can really be an AYE or affirmative

and the eye can differentiate between SQUARES [for AYE] & CIRCLES [for NAY, Not Voting & Vacant] relatively easier than between all squares

the info is transmitted better through 2 various shapes to represent different votes non-judgementally - then the collors alone transmit the second level of info

plus have the roll-over pop-ups to ID each senator by name & party as well

this combo resolves all the pertinent details that the viewer requires

Pssst said... your example is a very nice revision...

2009-01-03T01:43:00.000-05:00

Pssst said...

your example is a very nice revision & is reader friendly...

EXCEPT for the overly bold BLACK 'X' to strike out the NAYES as well as the reliance on GREEN for INDs [try YELLOW ?]

Instead of striking out the NAYES, could you exchange the square boxes for circles perhaps to indicate all the NO & Not Voting & Vacant seats - or use shades of gray with light gray for NAY, med gray for Not Voting & BLack/dark gray for Vacant seats ???

just some ideas to help make your excellent map even better for visual acuity [the 'X's have gotta go imho]

Version D is most legible at a glance; I especiall...

2009-01-02T23:14:00.000-05:00

Version D is most legible at a glance; I especially like how the party affiliations of the ayes pop out, and the cohesion of the nays. In displaying voting tallies, it's useful to see regions of yays and nays, and then have the option (perhaps by hovering one's mouse over a particular seat or state) of finding more detailed information.

C

2009-01-02T23:09:00.000-05:00

I agree with Intrpion. I understood the results of...

2009-01-02T22:37:00.000-05:00

I agree with Intrpion. I understood the results of version C most quickly - for some reason I found black easier to process than the x or the /.

I think the contrasting colors of Version C are th...

2009-01-02T21:49:00.000-05:00

I think the contrasting colors of Version C are the best.

I know lots of people like to play with maps to il...

2009-01-02T21:30:00.000-05:00

I know lots of people like to play with maps to illustrate all kinds of political phenomena these days, but it seems to me that many of these maps simply confuse things.

A map or a figure or a table should be easy to decipher. These maps (including your earlier House maps) are not.

A simple table by region would do much the same, and make more sense.

Perhaps the fourth option with a color border arou...

2009-01-02T20:55:00.000-05:00

Perhaps the fourth option with a color border around the greyed boxes for the nay votes? I really don't see a strong inherent difference in the first two options. And the third is nice, but can be difficult depending on the monitor.

How about something simple and intuitive, like thi...

2009-01-02T20:36:00.000-05:00

How about something simple and intuitive, like this?

Tell me what you think. :-)

The one with the black (version C) is the best.

2009-01-02T19:51:00.000-05:00

The one with the black (version C) is the best.

B is the only one that really works for me.In the ...

2009-01-02T19:12:00.000-05:00

B is the only one that really works for me.

In the hypothetical vote, only B makes it immediately obvious that the vast majority of Republicans voted "nay," and the majority of Democrats "aye." The red and blue immediately indicate Repub. and Dem., and should be kept. For me the point of the chart is figured out how each party would vote on a particular bill.

Everyone seems to like D, but for me, it takes too long to figure out which member of which party voted "nay," what with the tiny obscured letters and all.

version D is by far best if you take the slashes o...

2009-01-02T17:07:00.000-05:00

version D is by far best if you take the slashes out it would be the perfect one

Comments on FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Mapping the New Senate

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Love graphic map. Initially liked B and switched t...

Option Dis the easiest to quickly visually disting...

"D" - I agree with Pas, above. 1. I like the squar...

Thanks DCM! I hope Nate sees it. I'd be happy to...

Nate, of the maps, I prefer 3, although 4 would be...

I like the distortion - it conveys relative import...

Of the four, I vote for version C. Any version of ...

PSSSTyour new map is better than any of Nate's ver...

I think I like version D, it's a good visual overv...

Thanks for the great feedback, DCM! I agree that ...

I like C, with bolder typeface. And I like the di...

To follow up on PSSST's excellent example linked i...

Pssst said... your example is a very nice revision...

Version D is most legible at a glance; I especiall...

C

I agree with Intrpion. I understood the results of...

I think the contrasting colors of Version C are th...

I know lots of people like to play with maps to il...

Perhaps the fourth option with a color border arou...

How about something simple and intuitive, like thi...

The one with the black (version C) is the best.

B is the only one that really works for me.In the ...

version D is by far best if you take the slashes o...

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