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I'm sorry if this has been said already in one of ...

2009-03-09T15:17:00.000-04:00

I'm sorry if this has been said already in one of the 152 previous comments, but in the long run it doesn't matter if people say "Democrat Party". Use a pejorative name often enough and it loses its connotation and ceases to have any effect.

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2009-03-07T08:55:00.000-05:00

I don't see why conservative readers are calling t...

2009-03-06T22:45:00.000-05:00

I don't see why conservative readers are calling this article slanted, because it isn't. The republican party is resorting to playground insults, whereas the democrats aren't. And just because people report accurately what the republicans are doing doesn't mean they are slanted, it means the republican party is a joke and they aren't getting away with this.

Using "Democrat Party" is a time-saving courtesy. ...

2009-03-06T21:41:00.000-05:00

Using "Democrat Party" is a time-saving courtesy. It inflicts no wound, and saves me the effort of seriously considering the statement.

--Edward Hussein Heffernan

I almost (but not quite) feel sorry for the Rebumb...

2009-03-06T09:20:00.000-05:00

I almost (but not quite) feel sorry for the Rebumblicans.

I have parlayed my thoughts on the term "Democrat ...

2009-03-06T08:43:00.000-05:00

I have parlayed my thoughts on the term "Democrat Party" into a diary entry on Kos:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/3/6/31010/85553

"As a poster (too far back to find) suggested, Oba...

2009-03-06T02:38:00.000-05:00

"As a poster (too far back to find) suggested, Obama should quietly call off the Rush-baiting at some point. Eventually all the picking on the obese, addicted, narcissistic blowhard becomes unseemly."

I think this is almost certainly a temporary thing; if you think they've exercised the potential of their political chops, you're probably in for a surprise.

"I've never understood why Democrats refuse to do ...

2009-03-06T02:36:00.000-05:00

"I've never understood why Democrats refuse to do the same thing as Republicans as a method of showing how absurd it is."

They are, right now. A little late, maybe...

http://www.dccc.org/content/sorry

Redshift -I don't think describing someone as 'qui...

2009-03-06T01:30:00.000-05:00

Redshift -

I don't think describing someone as 'quite emotional' constitutes psychoanalysing him, unless you think forming any opinion of a person is psychoanalysing them. It's entirely normal to get a sense of someone's personality from the way they write.

Nor is it obnoxious. There's nothing wrong with being emotional, and describing someone as such is not an insult. It's largely a good trait, in my book, and it lent itself to some terrific reporting during the election. But it does need tempering a little if you want to write seriously about the complicated, nuanced world of daily politics.

As a poster (too far back to find) suggested, Obam...

2009-03-05T22:29:00.000-05:00

As a poster (too far back to find) suggested, Obama should quietly call off the Rush-baiting at some point. Eventually all the picking on the obese, addicted, narcissistic blowhard becomes unseemly.

Obama can effortlessly rise above this sort of thing himself, but he should call off Rahm while he's at it. Then he, Obama, can practice what he preaches within his own party.

Comedy Central, MSNBC and others in the infosplainment business can still chortle as the self-basting talk show host slowly turns on his own spit. Obama doesn't need to preside over a celebrity roast.

I used to ignore the stupidity of the GOOPers sayi...

2009-03-05T22:05:00.000-05:00

I used to ignore the stupidity of the GOOPers saying "Democrat Party" when referencing the Democratic Party, until I started seeing it posted as DemocRAT Party - actually more often democRAT party. At that point, I decided that I didn't need to extend any respect to such posters.

As to all those who are complaining about their 'voices being drowned out (and/or suppressed)' by the liberal commentators here at fivethirtyeight.com, when The Free Republic, NewsMax and other Reich-wing blogs allow dissenting viewpoints, I'll listen to your rants on these pages (actually I'll just continue to scroll past most of them with little consideration of your screeching, and make even less comment about them).

Until the Freepers, NewsMax, et al allow a full range of intelligent discourse from all points of the political spectrum, count your blessings that you CAN post here at all, let alone post without presenting many, if any, intelligent viewpoints.

Nate, your analysis gets right to the point of why...

2009-03-05T20:58:00.000-05:00

Nate, your analysis gets right to the point of why Obama is so attractive, he always seem like the grownup in the room. He can listen to the name-calling, etc. and not let it cloud his judgment and actions. He says in so many ways that his detractors can behave badly if they choose, but they should be ready for the consequences (usually looking like fools and unable to work constructively in good faith.).

Thanks for a smart line of analysis!

Associating Limbaugh and other right wing rants wi...

2009-03-05T20:22:00.000-05:00

Associating Limbaugh and other right wing rants with conservative failure is a good stragegy. He's a Hoover for our times, and making him an iconic Hoover figure makes a lot of sense. He also richly deserves it.

The article's reference to "historical Republican demonization of gays, blacks, immigrants, and other groups" misses the mark. Pre-New Deal Repulicans did not demonize blacks, but pre-New Deal Democrats certainly did. Repulicans at one time had a strong, progressive tradition (e.g. Lincoln, TR) whereas Democrats like Wilson segregated the armed forces. I suspect that Democratic Supreme Court justicies were responsible for Plessy v. Ferguson (and Harlan, the great dissenter who said that the Constitution was color blind, was a Republican.)

I know you are but what am I?

2009-03-05T19:54:00.000-05:00

I know you are but what am I?

Going after Rush is utterly bankrupt. It will only...

2009-03-05T19:47:00.000-05:00

Going after Rush is utterly bankrupt. It will only help reelect Democrats. It does not guarantee any progressive reform. In fact, focusing voter attention on personalities, rather than policy, helps Democrats who only want to win the next election.

Rush: The New Bush

I just call them republicons. I spell it that way...

2009-03-05T19:42:00.000-05:00

I just call them republicons. I spell it that way too. They are cons. The official spelling should be changed.

sean,the use of "democrat party" as a pejorative i...

2009-03-05T19:38:00.000-05:00

sean,

the use of "democrat party" as a pejorative is older than hoover:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(United_States)

The first time I remember actually hearing "Democr...

2009-03-05T19:30:00.000-05:00

The first time I remember actually hearing "Democrat" used as a pejorative adjective was by Sen. Dole during the Vice-Presidential debate in 1976. He was going on about "Democrat Wars" (WW I, WW II, Korea, and Vietnam). I was listening on the radio, so I don't recall if Sen. Mondale had any visible reaction; I don't remember him reacting verbally to the slight.

I've never understood why Democrats refuse to do t...

2009-03-05T18:50:00.000-05:00

I've never understood why Democrats refuse to do the same thing as Republicans as a method of showing how absurd it is. During the election, every drOp of "Barack Hussein Obama" should have been met with "John Sidney McCain The Third." But I didn't hear that even once. If we had it would have been clear how ridiculous using the full name is.

How about responding to "Democrat Party" by calling them the "Republic Party?" We're just dropping two letters like they do. But it sounds ridiculous, and should.

Ok, there is a simple solution to this nonsense fr...

2009-03-05T17:19:00.000-05:00

Ok, there is a simple solution to this nonsense from the RepublCON party. From no on have every Democratic talking head use the term RepubliCON to describe the RepubliCON's

No that is just the way I pronounce it, Con Can what is the difference... Does that bother you to be called RepubliCON's....

"Of course, lost in all of this to many is that th...

2009-03-05T16:53:00.000-05:00

"Of course, lost in all of this to many is that the whole Limbaugh contretemps is an actual strategy at the White House being employed to distract and draw attention away from the far more serious issues the country faces."

Ah yes, because the White House brought this issue up clearly means they and the people can't focus on other things. Meanwhile, there's a healthcare summit, bills being passed, and Republicans like PeteKent are left clueless while their party erodes beneath them.

Will they ever get it? It doesn't look like it, but it's still early, I guess.

"All this nonsense about Obama failing and now whe...

2009-03-05T16:49:00.000-05:00

"All this nonsense about Obama failing and now whether it is unpatriotic is idicy. Like any of the Left wanted Bush to succeed!"

I, too, remember when a loud-mouthed radio host effectively took over as the voice of the Democratic party, called for Bush to fail, and was met with acceptance from the party.

Wait, what?

This incident just shows the Republicans for what ...

2009-03-05T16:29:00.000-05:00

This incident just shows the Republicans for what they are. Their is a massive inner civil war and all it took was two or three comments from dems for this thing to grow out of control.

The Democratic party would be wise to shut up about it now since it has a life of its own.

Did anyone see Rachel Maddow's interview with Gov. Pawlenty? He was visibly terrified to say anything negative about Limbaugh lest he have to go on his show in the morning and publicly clean Limbaugh's balls with his tongue". He also implied that Limbaugh was part of the plan to expand the GOP tent. What a joke, like anyone with a functional brain would listen to this clown.

Pawlenty proved that the madmen have taken over and no one in the party has a clue how to take control, nor do they have any ideas about how to fix the country.

I would definitely follow up on this. I think it ...

2009-03-05T16:21:00.000-05:00

I would definitely follow up on this. I think it must be a common tactic of the right to give nicknames to things (They called the Lieberman Warner climate change bill the Warner Lieberman) specifically so that they can message control. If you figure that the media is totally fractured, then people who listen to conservatives will look up topics (say on the internet) the way they are defined by conservatives, thus never being exposed to a different perspectives. It is possible to go through life in the country almost never hearing how the other side thinks. And I think that is a tactic that needs to be busted wide open. Have the Democrats start using some of this code and it will screw up the flow.