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McBush Flip and Romney Flop great combination.

McBush needs major help in MI. Obama up by 7 in latest poll.

McBush is toast after his "I can't remember how many homes I own" gaffe when so many Americans are losing their only home. How 'bout McBush house some of the homeless vets in all those homes he does not use?

The problem wasn't primarily that the McCains own ...

2008-08-22T10:02:34.207-04:00

The problem wasn't primarily that the McCains own so many houses, it's that John McCain didn't know how many he had, and said he'd have to check with his staff! It's not just that he's rich, it's that it reinforces a sort of hands-off management style, reminiscent of Bush, and a cavalier attitude toward money. I don't think large segments of the electorate have a problem with rich people. They have a problem with people who are cavalier about money. And that's what McCain walked into.

I bet if Romney had been asked the question last week, he would have given a definite answer. Yes, for people that rich the answer would have been tricky, and Romney is not always the most up-front guy about his personal affairs, but he probably could have managed something like: "I have my primary residence in X, and a vacation home in Y. I also have some investment properties" or something like that.

So I'd argue that this actually reinforces the need for McCain to pick a "numbers" guy like Romney. If he picks someone without a lot of money who also doesn't seem to understand his or her own financial affairs, that's actually worse.

Every time I hear that McCain's considering Romney...

2008-08-22T09:49:29.370-04:00

Every time I hear that McCain's considering Romney for his running mate, I can't help but think of the Far Side cartoon that has trail of arrows drawn by a dog leading into the dryer with the words "CAT FUD" next to them. Also Admiral Ackbar.

wealthy Americans don't know how many houses they ...

2008-08-22T07:15:22.345-04:00

wealthy Americans don't know how many houses they own. It's because of US tax laws, which provide attractive loopholes for the extremely rich. How many of their seven homes are in trusts, QPRTs and other exotic tax-dodging vehicles? If you don't own the home in the eyes of Uncle Sam, AND you don't spend more than a week or two a year at the home, does it count? It gets messy.

Wow, cry me a river. Seriously, this reminds me of the time I bitched about ATMs not dispensing bigger bills than 20s. The guy I was talking to looked at me and said "POTR."

"POTR?" I replied.

"Yeah, POTR," he said. "Problems of the Rich." I never complained about 20s again.

+Obama is hardly the perfect vessel to become a wo...

2008-08-22T06:16:10.359-04:00

+Obama is hardly the perfect vessel to become a working class hero, but he doesn't have to become one of them, just fighting for them. He's already got the inside track with his middle class tax cuts.+
And, of course, the local work he did in Chicago, which is directly relevant.

Toby,
Biden is pretty well-known in Northern VA, not because he's from nearby Delaware, but because DC is a company town. You hear about prominent senators on the local news in the DC-area more than most other places. Politicians show up in the gossip pages, and style and metro of the Washington Post. DC-ites read the Post unlike in NY where the local pop. seems to read the NY Post more than the NY Times.

In defense of McCain - who deserves to lose on the issues and on backlash to his morphing into a typical Republican lowest common denominator attack dog idiot - wealthy Americans don't know how many houses they own. It's because of US tax laws, which provide attractive loopholes for the extremely rich. How many of their seven homes are in trusts, QPRTs and other exotic tax-dodging vehicles? If you don't own the home in the eyes of Uncle Sam, AND you don't spend more than a week or two a year at the home, does it count? It gets messy.

The mainstream LDS Church (Mormons) renounced poly...

2008-08-22T05:01:04.372-04:00

The mainstream LDS Church (Mormons) renounced polygyny a long time ago. (I prefer the word "polygyny," meaning the practice of having multiple wives, to "polygamy," which could embrace polyandry [multiple husbands], too.) Nowadays, only small sects that the mainstream church considers heretical practice polygyny. So if Romney has to answer for something he and his church don't believe in, that's no more fair than Obama having to answer for ostensibly being a secret supporter of radical Muslim terrorists.

How quaint to talk about fairness. Yes, it's "unfair" for Obama to have to answer for Muslim this and Muslim that, but we hate a whiner. So, if the Republicans stick a Mormon on their ticket and the Democrats don't raise polygamy as a subject, then they're unilaterally disarming and running for Student Council, and they deserve to lose.

Anyway, while it's true that the Mormons dropped polygamy as part of Utah's deal with the federal government to gain statehood, they didn't completely abandon it. Polygamy is still part of the doctrine; it's simply allowed in the next world, not this one.

And the anti-polygamy rule is honored in the breach. Polygamy is a widespread, open secret throughout Mormon culture, up to and including today's Mormon culture. If McCain picks Romney and if Obama had brains and guts, he'd have surrogates opening up all those polygamy cases in Utah and Texas and splashing them all over the place, and then pointing out that Romney's grandparents were polygamists.

I think the Republican veep choice is much more interesting than the Democratic veep choice. Two reasons: Hillary Clinton's supporters, and McCain's mortality.

If Obama picks Clinton (thereby demonstrating that he's pussy-whipped, which will cause him to lose), then I think he leaves the door wide open for McCain to pick Romney. Why? Because the Nutcases hate Hillary more than they hate Mormons, especially when the Mormon reassures them that he's just as interested as they are in putting women in their place and shoving homos back into the closet.

If Obama picks someone else, then there's the hell-hath-no-fury issue, which Hillary has stoked to a fare-thee-well. It would leave McCain a trail of rose petals straight to Gov. Pallin in Alaska, who is not just a woman but the poster child for a sweet pro-life woman, having recently given birth to a kid with Down's Syndrome. Can't you just see the ads now?

I think Obama's in something of a bind with respect to the veep thing, and that he's delaying this so long because he wants to breeze right by it. He's in what could literally be a no-win situation, especially if he insists on running such a clean-underwear campaign.

No matter who he picks, there'll be a bunch of Democrats branding him an idiot or worse for his choice, and the schedule sets McCain up to have the last word, and therefore the trump card. Combined with Obama's campaign that it weak, disorganized, and uncoordinated, I think at this point it's shaping up to be that golden moment where the Democratic Party once again pisses it all away.

Let's hope I'm just in a bad mood.

I can only say that it shows something about the r...

2008-08-22T04:31:58.321-04:00

I can only say that it shows something about the relative level of tolerance in Massachusetts that that very Democratic state with very few Mormons elected a Mormon Republican as Governor. If there are large numbers of registered Republicans who won't vote for McCain because they can't stomach voting for a Mormon VP, and that ends up costing McCain a victory, that would be truly ironic.

Michael:We must be in the same timezone. :)I'm not...

2008-08-22T03:56:14.190-04:00

Michael:
We must be in the same timezone. :)

I'm not saying those kinds of attacks are fair - only that in the minds of many Americans Mormons have foreign beliefs. The only groups with lower approval ratings, in terms of religious affiliation, in America are Muslims and athiests - in that order.

People were uncomfortable with his Mormonism during the primaries and it looks like the politcos have forgotten that.

x0lani, let's be fair. The mainstream LDS Church (...

2008-08-22T03:47:45.506-04:00

x0lani, let's be fair. The mainstream LDS Church (Mormons) renounced polygyny a long time ago. (I prefer the word "polygyny," meaning the practice of having multiple wives, to "polygamy," which could embrace polyandry [multiple husbands], too.) Nowadays, only small sects that the mainstream church considers heretical practice polygyny. So if Romney has to answer for something he and his church don't believe in, that's no more fair than Obama having to answer for ostensibly being a secret supporter of radical Muslim terrorists. And considering that Romney ran against his record, completely, there are so many legitimate things he can be tarred with, in any case.

Nate has yet another new post up this am... more o...

2008-08-22T03:42:42.409-04:00

Nate has yet another new post up this am... more on the Veepstakes for the red-eye crowd

thanks, Nate

PLUCK,well it would be most interesting & a major ...

2008-08-22T03:41:37.823-04:00

PLUCK,

well it would be most interesting & a major distraction for McCain, IMO.

Do No Harm ? Huckabee & friends alone have already assured that one will come...

For the record, I heard on CNN (so it has to be tr...

2008-08-22T03:37:35.319-04:00

For the record, I heard on CNN (so it has to be true) that Obama said he will announce the VP in Illinois on Saturday.

That means that all the speculation based on where he will be on each day at what time until the Democratic National Convention, is just that - speculation.

Now we just have to find out who has plane tickets to Illinois on Saturday.

Or we could just wait... ;)

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