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2009-03-11T22:03:00.000-04:00

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2009-02-14T02:17:00.000-05:00

The writer lost all credibility with me early into...

2008-08-05T20:35:00.000-04:00

The writer lost all credibility with me early into the article when he wrote that Inbev owns Heineken & Amstel Light. Those brands would be owned by another one of the world's leading brewers--Heineken. Do your research next time!

InBev doesn't own Heineken or Amstel Light.

2008-08-05T16:33:00.000-04:00

InBev doesn't own Heineken or Amstel Light.

Anti-trust? Give me a break. This is capitalism ...

2008-07-28T13:22:00.000-04:00

Anti-trust? Give me a break. This is capitalism at work, as you expressly state, and it would be foolhardy for Obama to come out against this in any significant manner. The last thing he needs to do right now is alienate independent voters who favor free markets.

A few years ago A-B bought the Latrobe Brewing Com...

2008-07-28T13:20:00.000-04:00

A few years ago A-B bought the Latrobe Brewing Company, brewers of Rolling Rock.

Over strenuous local objection, A-B shuttered the brewery and moved the brewing of Rolling Rock to A-B's own brewery in Newark, cutting jobs in the process.

So at the risk of being insensitive I have to say that appeals to preserve the local culture of St. Louis strike me as hollow and even hypocritical.

I agree with some of the commenters above. As a free-market liberal the last thing I want to see is Obama getting involved in something like this.

I'm from St. Louis. And the truth is this is more ...

2008-07-28T09:46:00.000-04:00

I'm from St. Louis. And the truth is this is more than an economic issue for that city, it is also a culturaly one. Brewery Tours, trips to Grant's Farm (owned by AB), Busch Stadium (Also I think owned by AB), the clydesdales at ball games all of these things are costs, that I'm sure InBev will not see as worthwhile. But they are a major part of St. Louis culture.

That might be another interesting angle on this issue. How do we preserve our local cultures in the face of globalization? And that affects a lot of people as well.

Anyway, I really hope this doesn't go through.

Obama should stay out of this one for one simple r...

2008-07-28T02:01:00.000-04:00

Obama should stay out of this one for one simple reason: the antitrust case is laughable. You can't prevent a merger just because the resulting company would be "too big", especially not in the US. Given that there is already healthy competition within the beer industry in the US (and the acquisition might even reduce BUD's popularity), any attempt to stonewall the deal will come across as pandering.

Obama doesn't want to be seen as too much of a demagogue/protectionist. This is probably an issue on the same level as the baseball steroids scandal, and it would have been equally silly for Obama to become involved in that mess.

The discourse here wasa at to high a level, and it...

2008-07-27T18:09:00.000-04:00

The discourse here wasa at to high a level, and it showed Obama will win. The repubs just can't handle it.

Rove quoted 538 on Fox during his lying session, maybe one of these is him.

LOL!!!

GO OBAMA!!!!

Kill 'em with fire! wow - instead of cutting them ...

2008-07-27T15:12:00.000-04:00

Kill 'em with fire!

wow - instead of cutting them out could we maybe use radiation therapy ?

Let's NUKE 'em !
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on a serious note, wonder if Nate will be running any simulations today or posting.

would like to see if the EV center of gravity will climb back over 300for Obama again for a more comfortable MOE.

Everyone keeps complaining about trolls and in the...

2008-07-27T14:57:00.000-04:00

Everyone keeps complaining about trolls and in the same breath breaks the golden rule: feeding them.

By naming them in your commentary, responding to their baited posts or simply cherry picking from their words you are doing yourself and this site a disservice. Internet trolls aren't pimples that need daily care to go away. They are malignant tumors that need to be cut lest they spread.

Many of you here want to treat them like pimples. I say enjoy your break outs.

PLEASE people - you are feeding the trolls !!!igno...

2008-07-27T14:54:00.000-04:00

PLEASE people - you are feeding the trolls !!!

ignore Moondancer & obamastutter or you encourage them to linger & spew their bile.

also best to ignore the 'concern trolls' that pop in [like Pete Kent]

Moondancer is typical of the childish lemmings who...

2008-07-27T14:50:00.000-04:00

Moondancer is typical of the childish lemmings who support obama and want to run the country.

Grow up, child, and move out of your parents basement. Maybe when you actually pay taxes you won't be so keen on raising them. But thats if you ever become successful, which I doubt you will be unless its in some Big Government job.

moondancer,you're comments are totally discredited...

2008-07-27T14:48:00.000-04:00

moondancer,

you're comments are totally discredited due to lack of ability to refrain from childish namecalling.

You are no better than "obamastutter"

At least his name was accurate.

young conservativeall are welcomed on this site to...

2008-07-27T14:38:00.000-04:00

young conservative

all are welcomed on this site to comment but the request is to try to remain on point [or close to it] regarding electoral polling analysis & prediction.

partisanship is acceptable as long as it is disclosed & decorum is maintained.

as for your inquiry about "trolling', I refer you to Wikipedia:

Troll (Internet) -
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from Internet troll)

"Do not feed the trolls" and its abbreviation DNFTT redirects here. For the Wikipedia essay, see "What is a troll?"

An Internet troll, or simply 'troll' in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion5

Etymology

The contemporary use of the term first appeared on Usenet groups in the late 1980s. It is thought to be a truncation of the phrase "trolling for suckers", itself derived from the fishing technique known as trolling.
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The word likely gained currency because of its apt second[ary] meaning, drawn from the trolls portrayed in Scandinavian folklore and children's tales; they are often ugly, obnoxious creatures bent on mischief and wickedness.
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PLEASE - DNFTT !!!

Moondancer Bush isn't running. Get over it.This el...

2008-07-27T14:33:00.000-04:00

Moondancer Bush isn't running. Get over it.

This election will be about obama and his toxic associations that showcase his poor judgement (Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Daley, Michelle, etc).

RealistI beg to differ. Both in lack of character...

2008-07-27T14:31:00.000-04:00

Realist

I beg to differ. Both in lack of character and policy, Bush/McCain are joined at the hip. Krusty is running away from his President like he had the plague, except for fund raising of course. Not until two weeks ago(when Krusty completed a half-dozen flip flops) they had the identical platform on every campaign issue. And with the 95pct voting record with the chimp why not? It's "weak" to think different.

For awhile the comments section was so good. Lots...

2008-07-27T14:16:00.000-04:00

For awhile the comments section was so good. Lots of interesting statistical analysis that was so different from any other site.
Now there are more attack posts than posts of people really wishing to have an intelligent discussion.

I think I will stick to reading Nate's posts and skip the comments.

how is "trolling" defined here? Partisan attacks ...

2008-07-27T14:08:00.000-04:00

how is "trolling" defined here? Partisan attacks or people who aren't drooling over the Obama mystique?

Karl Rove plugged 538 on Fox News this morning, wh...

2008-07-27T14:02:00.000-04:00

Karl Rove plugged 538 on Fox News this morning, which may help explain the trolling.

President Barack Hussein ObamaI love it :D

2008-07-27T14:00:00.000-04:00

President Barack Hussein Obama

I love it :D

That goes for both sides vtslayer.BTW, VT is a nic...

2008-07-27T13:55:00.000-04:00

That goes for both sides vtslayer.

BTW, VT is a nice state. Stowe rules.