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McCain succeeded in taking the buzz off Obama and ...

2008-08-31T09:03:00.000-04:00

McCain succeeded in taking the buzz off Obama and the DNC convention. He actually got a crowd for his rallies, when Palin was with him.

That being said, can you doubt that if she were a Democrat running for ANY office, how the Right would crucify her for running while having a 4-month old? never mind the fact that she hasn't evinced any interest in any politics outside Alaska.

She told Larry Kudlow, she needed to be told what a VP does and that she would only be interested if it helped Alaska -- talk about not being interested in earmarks !

Please stop saying that Palin "has as much experie...

2008-08-30T02:10:00.000-04:00

Please stop saying that Palin "has as much experience in government as Obama." This is simply not true. She's been governor for about as long as he's been campaigning for President, and quite frankly, with all due respect to Alaskans, he's been running the more detail-driven, higher stakes, larger organization. I would hold his "executive experience" against hers any day.

Before her governorship, Palin was the mayor of a town of less than 9,000. Obama has been a U.S. Senator, the state senator for Illinois's 13th District (which is, by the way, larger than Alaska), and before that a "community organizer" - which means, for those who don't know, that he organized, managed, and in a couple of cases served as a founder for non-profit groups with both paid and unpaid staff. In other words, as anyone who has ever had a similar job can tell you, he was "the boss."

No one who has really observed the Obama campaign can take the "lack of experience" arguments seriously at this point. The man has proven his ability to organize, delegate, plan, strategize, and think through a problem. He clearly knows how to surround himself with good people - those who will tell him the hard truths as well as the things he might want to hear. He's been tested both inside and outside Washington, on both foreign and domestic policy, as a manager and a strategist.

Comparing Obama and McCain is fair, and is indeed what voters should be doing. Comparing Palin and Obama is ludicrous, and discredits both. Palin is a fine person, with many strengths and many noteworthy life experiences. But her professional accomplishments have not yet prepared her for the demands of the Presidency.

It's too bad Tina Fey isn't still on SNL, not only...

2008-08-29T18:17:00.000-04:00

It's too bad Tina Fey isn't still on SNL, not only because she was one oft eh few funny things on that show, but also because she and Palin are almost dead ringers for each other.

"After reading all the posts above, the left wing ...

2008-08-29T17:00:00.000-04:00

"After reading all the posts above, the left wing trolls are nervous, as she has ten times the experience that Odumbo has, and the pick demonstrates just how inexperienced Odumbo really is and what a dangerous thing it would be to elect him tot he oval office. Question,
If my Vice-President is 3 years younger than Obama, but has 10 times the experience in Government the differnce between Obama and McCain is the width of the Grand Canyon"

The only thing you could name to show her "experience" is this vague expression "executive experience". But McCain does not have any executive experience either. Is he too inexperienced to become president? Hell, Sarah Palin might be the ONLY experienced person in this presidential quartett.

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"Well let's be honest here. The vast majority of p...

2008-08-29T14:59:00.000-04:00

"Well let's be honest here. The vast majority of posters to this website are incredibly biased in favor of the liberals"

That's because this website, by its nature, appeals to those who are intelligent and have an interest in scientific principles. And that favors 'liberals'.

McCain's choice confirms what all non-kool-aid drinkers already know about him -- he doesn't give a shit about anything but finding any way possible to get elected. Palin fails the 'experience' test, the 'commander-in-chief' test, and definitely the 'country first' test.

On this date in history, August 29, 2004, Jack Bla...

2008-08-29T14:17:00.000-04:00

On this date in history, August 29, 2004, Jack Black was a jackass.

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

This time I'll add a semi-serious comment. Bush was two points ahead four years today. I can live with a slight gain for McCain from where we are today when we consider that between Gallup and RR (both of which show Republican "House effects") Obama has a 6% lead. I'd gladly "settle" for a 3% Obama win, which would reflect a larger swing than Bush got.

I would be careful not to disparage Palin, since t...

2008-08-29T14:15:00.000-04:00

I would be careful not to disparage Palin, since that could backfire if it looked like it was because she was a woman. (Probably what the Repubs are counting on). Also, I'd make sure that Biden didn't even think about telling an off color joke for the next 67 days.

Overrated:Nice attempt to assume that which needs ...

2008-08-29T14:09:00.000-04:00

Overrated:

Nice attempt to assume that which needs to be proven (and can't be). The Dems don't have problem with strong women. (Look at her reception at the convention) The nomination was Hillary's but she and her (mostly male staff) fumbled the football and Obama recovered and ran it in for a touchdown.

Had they thought the process through and figured out the caucus process and the apportionment of delegates rules, we would be looking at a Clinton/Obama ticket.

To say that the Party that has spent several month...

2008-08-29T13:56:00.000-04:00

To say that the Party that has spent several months making inexperience the major issue of the campaign now "welcomes the debate" is patently ridiculous.

Well the difference is that with Obama the PRESIDENT has no experience. With Palin the person running the SENATE has no experience. Huge difference. I agree with your point about her being one heartbeat away from the Presidency and there is no question that the inexperience angle is compromised, but the defense is that she brings the same experience Obama does. With McCain we only deal with that in a worst case scenario, with Obama we get it for certain.

Whether that argument will play with the American people...we'll see.

Bush Jr showed in 2000 and 2004 how to win even th...

2008-08-29T13:34:00.000-04:00

Bush Jr showed in 2000 and 2004 how to win even tho everybody thinks he is dumb. McCain is betting that the same thing will work for him.
Low expectations = victory

overrated wrote:If you want to highlight inexperie...

2008-08-29T13:33:00.000-04:00

overrated wrote:
If you want to highlight inexperience then the GOP welcomes the debate. The bigger issue is why Dems have trouble with strong women

No, the real issue is going to be if Republicans can see this woman as commander-in-chief if McCain dies in office? Inexperience was always the Republican issue du jour. Now it's in their face. The only Democrats who brought up inexperience are now endorsing Obama, so I fail to see how this puts the ball in the Democrats' court. To say that the Party that has spent several months making inexperience the major issue of the campaign now "welcomes the debate" is patently ridiculous. The GOP just gave up inexperience as a talking point.

A whole lot of Democrats voted for Hillary (a strong woman), so the idea that Democrats have "trouble with strong women" is dead on arrival. Republicans are beating a dead horse if they think they can ride the "PUMA issue" to the White House. Personally, I believe that the majority of the PUMAs were either disaffected Republicans that would have broke for McCain anyway, or Republicans in Democrat clothing trying to stir up a Party split. It's truly bizzare to see Republicans attempting to portray Hillary as some kind of hero to their cause.

The biggest drawback is that she fatally undercuts...

2008-08-29T13:30:00.000-04:00

The biggest drawback is that she fatally undercuts McCain's experience attacks. Now Obama can say: "How can McCain criticize me for not having enough experience and then turn around and pick a VP candidate who's 1 year removed from being a small-town mayor? When I was a State Representative in Illinois, I represented more people than live in the entire state of Alaska."

Well despite her limited experience she still has more executive experience than anyone on either ticket. Furthermore, I would be REAL careful about insulting rural America with comments about being a small town mayor. Truth be told she is probably more in touch with the common person because of that than Obama, Biden, or McCain.

Again...it just depends on which camp spins it most effectively.

Well let's be honest here. The vast majority of p...

2008-08-29T13:24:00.000-04:00

Well let's be honest here. The vast majority of posters to this website are incredibly biased in favor of the liberals so it comes as no surprise that everyone here would be hammering the pick...and frankly who cares? Most of you wouldn't vote for McCain if he picked Ted Kennedy as his running mate and frankly I doubt most of you that are doing the hammering know anything about her.

One poster said the moderates would be turned off. Well I am one of those moderates and I am keeping an open mind. I am bothered by her lack of experience, but she did what she needed to do in her acceptance speech. She came off as charismatic yet professional, talked about some of her opinions, established herself as one of the common people, appealed to women....I wouldn't be celebrating quite yet liberals. It all depends on how it's spun. It could be a kiss of death for McCain, but if played correctly it may turn out to be a great pick with negative effects for Obama.

Realistixx,What you say may be true. But I think R...

2008-08-29T13:22:00.000-04:00

Realistixx,

What you say may be true. But I think Romney wanted it unless the Pick of Biden changed his mind. McCain really deosn't likes him and vice versa. It would have a partnership of convenience.

Huckabee maybe wanted it too. But I think Huck is interested in being a taking ahead and on the lecture circuit.

Pawlenty really didn't want it IMO. He is looking to running on his own in the future.

McCain really had few choices and none of them good.
The picks McCain wanted of Lieberman or Ridge he couldn;t make b/c of the base.

All of you are overrating the importance of this p...

2008-08-29T13:18:00.000-04:00

All of you are overrating the importance of this pick! McCain had a bunch of bad choices and picked the least harmful. She won't be great, but she'll be effective. She won't offend anybody but she is inexperienced.

The biggest drawback is that she fatally undercuts McCain's experience attacks. Now Obama can say: "How can McCain criticize me for not having enough experience and then turn around and pick a VP candidate who's 1 year removed from being a small-town mayor? When I was a State Representative in Illinois, I represented more people than live in the entire state of Alaska."

McCain wanted to get everybody talking about his VP pick instead of Obama's great speech. Well done.

He wanted to shore up his base and picked a wing-nut to please them. No Joe Lieberman who would make them sit out the election.

But, the election DOES NOT TURN ON THE VP!

Virginia Conservative actually said something sensible for the first time in his life: "Remind me who won the 1988 election with Dan Quayle."

If Dan Quayle didn't sink Bush then NO VP candidate can really sink the Presidential candidate (Tom Eagleton being getting psychiatric treatment aside).

This is a nice media gesture. But, the election turns on Obama. Will Palin really help him make the case against Obama? Don't think so.

VC,You are hilarious. The spin coupled with desper...

2008-08-29T13:14:00.000-04:00

VC,

You are hilarious. The spin coupled with desperation in your posts is entertaining.

It was a three pointer from half court, and it was...

2008-08-29T13:12:00.000-04:00

It was a three pointer from half court, and it was nothing but net and put this election in overtime.

John McCain judgement which he claims on display i...

2008-08-29T13:11:00.000-04:00

John McCain judgement which he claims on display in VP pick:

1)He cliamed that "being able to step in as Pres was his first qualification"

Missed big time on that Johnny Boy!

2)Someone that has to mention the PTA on their resume for VP.

3)Somoene that doesn't know what the VP does.

4)Someone under ethics investigation.

The desperation of this pick is obvious. He saw the Dem convention and saw that party uninted and threw a Hail Mary. To bad for him it was an easy interception b/c johnny boy has a weak arm.

McCain just needs to keep it tied until the last w...

2008-08-29T13:10:00.000-04:00

McCain just needs to keep it tied until the last week of October, then those uncommitted voters scared of Obama will vote for McCain/Palin.

Who said the PUMAS about Sarah?.

2008-08-29T13:09:00.001-04:00

Who said the PUMAS about Sarah?.

>>Yup Becky. And once the Palin pick sinks in it w...

2008-08-29T13:09:00.000-04:00

>>Yup Becky. And once the Palin pick sinks in it will be tied again.

If it's tied at the end of the GOP convention Obama will win. Palin is a bubble waiting to burst.

Yup Becky. And once the Palin pick sinks in it wil...

2008-08-29T13:07:00.000-04:00

Yup Becky. And once the Palin pick sinks in it will be tied again.

Cut him right off, as I said. I'm loving this.