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2009-07-22T03:49:40.742-04:00

Tom, Thank you for your contributions. Illegitimi...

2009-07-14T18:27:22.764-04:00

Tom,

Thank you for your contributions. Illegitimi non carborundum!

Ayers: Over the long term, not at all. Governor Ji...

2009-07-14T00:35:21.031-04:00

Ayers: Over the long term, not at all. Governor Jindal is one of the brightest minds in our Party and has unlimited potential.

Isn't that kind of like being the least bad smelling fart?

Jean said... Down here in Georgia we know Nick Aye...

2009-07-14T00:04:54.300-04:00

Jean said...
Down here in Georgia we know Nick Ayers too well. . . .

So Jean, are you saying that Ayers is an example of a slightly distorted and perverted version of the "Peter Principle"? VBG

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While not, perhaps, the most illuminating of inter...

2009-07-13T23:37:35.192-04:00

While not, perhaps, the most illuminating of interviews, I think the questions were reasonable, particularly taking into consideration that he presumably wants other Republicans to agree to interviews with him in the future.

I would be in favor of not interviewing party oper...

2009-07-13T23:03:32.731-04:00

I would be in favor of not interviewing party operatives at all. Their statements are extremely predictable and unenlightening, and we already hear far too much from them in the mainstream media.

jindal is not an american citizen he was born in i...

2009-07-13T22:00:22.719-04:00

jindal is not an american citizen he was born in india. both his parents were indian citizens and wanted to return home for his birth.

it wasnt till years later they became american citizens.

that is one of the reason jindal refuses to produces his birth certificate. that is going to be a real problem for the republicans.

Geoff, we heard the same thing here about Jack Dav...

2009-07-13T21:57:25.037-04:00

Geoff, we heard the same thing here about Jack Davis from the Tom Reynolds campaign. Davis was a Goldwater-conservative and business owner who left the GOP for the Dems after a GOP fundraiser in Buffalo where Cheney refused to answer questions about the GOP's economic policies on free trade and economic partnership with the Chinese Communist Party. Reynolds actively called Davis a "tax and spend liberal" when he knew the exact opposite was true and that that epithet was more appropriate to his own policies.

The GOP has to call the Dems the "tax and spenders" constantly because if they let up for even a second the public might finally figure out that the tax and spenders are actually the Republicans.

Let the 538 readers submit the questions for your ...

2009-07-13T21:55:57.426-04:00

Let the 538 readers submit the questions for your next interview and let us vote on the top ten ones next time.

Here's one I woulda asked.

Considering the Hispanic vote is the quickest growing vote and they went for Obama 2 to 1, are you planning on using abortion as a wedge issue to gain their votes rather than running on ideas and solutions to 21st century problems which is something Republicans have avoided for the last couple decades since they are out of ideas?

It was very informative to see Ayers' responses to...

2009-07-13T21:51:37.476-04:00

It was very informative to see Ayers' responses to these questions. The open-ended questions gave him the opportunity to say whatever was on his mind. The fact that he only gave empty talking points revealed his empty philosophy. Allowing someone like Ayers to reveal his own shallowness is a valuable service. Thank you for an excellent interview.

"Creigh Deeds is a tax-and-spender who stands with...

2009-07-13T21:48:04.429-04:00

"Creigh Deeds is a tax-and-spender who stands with Big Labor."

A completely inaccurate description of Deeds. Then again, I can't say I'm shocked to hear him critiqued that way by the RGA Executive Director.

Naturally, while you could go with Ayers description of McDonnell as someone who "is fighting to keep Virginia’s right to work laws and keep Virginia business friendly," that would conveniently ignore the fact that McDonnell is an idealogue of the Pat Robertson persuasion who wants to enact a right-wing social agenda while doing nothing for Virginia's failing infrastructure because he, like his comrades in the General Assembly, won't find ways to raise new revenue.

I think it's great that 538 is getting the recogni...

2009-07-13T21:40:52.152-04:00

I think it's great that 538 is getting the recognition it deserves. I don't think raking republicans over the coals would do any good.

"standard republican boilerplate"

It's all they have.

Down here in Georgia we know Nick Ayers too well. ...

2009-07-13T20:51:52.441-04:00

Down here in Georgia we know Nick Ayers too well. After Sonny Perdue's re-election in 2006, Nick got a DUI in Atlanta that capped off a string of continuous run-ins with the law since his high school days. So Perdue, capitalizing on his position as Chair of the GOP Governors Association, sent Nick packing to Washington in hopes he would get treatment for his alcohol problems and make a fresh start and get him out of Perdue's hair. So Nick appears perfectly qualified to represent the GOP on a national level.

One benefit of Mr. Schaller interviewing Ayers is ...

2009-07-13T20:43:18.561-04:00

One benefit of Mr. Schaller interviewing Ayers is that it takes some time out of Ayers schedule that he might have spent doing an interview with Faux News, the (Moonie-owned) Washington Times, Lush Rimbaugh, etc.

And because he was given softball questions, it might take him just slightly off his game when someone asks him a hardball question - he might just let slip something that the RGA doesn't want to be let out.

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Alon, Ayers made it appear that what has changed i...

2009-07-13T20:22:37.202-04:00

Alon, Ayers made it appear that what has changed is the dominant politics of the voters in the south when what has actually changed is the politics of the political parties in the south. Ideologically, Perdue as well as the core leadership in the Republican Party, are the Southern Democrats.

Yes, while it is factually true that Perdue was the first Republican governor since reconstruction, politically nothing really changed except the label. It would be like Pepsi switching from a blue can to a red one and people thinking they're buying something different. The core values and the leadership of today's Republican Party are those of the Dixiecrats, the very people and ideologies the Republican Party was expressly formed to oppose.

You have to serve up the softballs in hopes that s...

2009-07-13T20:15:46.112-04:00

You have to serve up the softballs in hopes that some new tidbit will surface. Ayers comments were what I would have expected from a professional political operative. Answer the questions in a manner that does not make you look stupid and does no damage to the party.

Ayers has to keep his professional options open, there will be some Republican candidates who may hire him for their campaign and there is no incentive for him to speak candidly about anything.

I probably would have answered the Palin issue differently. Not surprised that she was not going to seek a second term but deciding not to finish her term, an unconventional move. (political speak for saying WTF)

Lord Calvert… While I applaud your thinking and ...

2009-07-13T20:12:02.836-04:00

Lord Calvert…

While I applaud your thinking and logic, Schaller didn’t conduct a debate with Ayers—it was an interview. One scores points in a debate; an interviewer should be, at least in my book, as objective as possible, otherwise the exercise strays into something else.

That this report wasn’t as successful as it could have been was the result of Ayers’s talent for throwing any meaningful discussion off the track.

Lord Calvert, I don't think the reference was as p...

2009-07-13T20:05:16.122-04:00

Lord Calvert, I don't think the reference was as pernicious as you portray it. It's factually true that Perdue was the first Republican Governor of Georgia since Reconstruction. Ayers could say something like "First Republican since the fall of the Southern Democratic Party," but that would falsely imply the Republican Party did win some races in the pre-civil rights era.

@ Pragmatus: "The McCain tape-loops were— ♦ “Obam...

2009-07-13T20:01:06.417-04:00

@ Pragmatus: "The McCain tape-loops were—

♦ “Obama pals around with terrorists”
♦ “Obama has never come clean about his relationship with Rev. Wright”
♦ “First thing in office Obama will raise your taxes”

I don’t think any of these were particularly effective..."

Point taken--though I honestly think that those loops were more from surrogates, rather than from McCain himself. As I said previously, that's an indictment of McCain (and his staff) for not having a short, clear message. Even if the stuff above was directly from McCain, it's either laughably bad or too nuanced (or in the case of Wright, people could easily be indifferent).

Tom, since you wrote a book that said that the Dem...

2009-07-13T20:00:25.887-04:00

Tom, since you wrote a book that said that the Dems ought to quit worrying about the South and that southern conservatism is largely what went wrong with this decade, why did you give Ayers a free pass on his comment that he campaigned for Purdue and him becoming the first Republican governor since reconstruction? By letting that comment slide you allowed Ayers to make it seem that the GOP was still the party of Lincoln when that hasn't been true for the last 45 years. And this was in his very first two sentences! Either:

A) Ayers genuinely does not know that the GOP has radically changed its political positions since reconstruction, thus making him incompetent.
B) Ayers knows full well that the GOP has radically changed its political positions since reconstruction but is still trying to market itself as the Party of Lincoln in an attempt to maximize national appeal even though it now opposes everything he stood for and has completely adopted the politics of the former Southern Democrats, thus making him fraudulent.

I think B is most likely true. You let him score a major point on you in the very first exchange and by doing so let him know that he was going to dominate the interview from the very beginning, which he did. You let him know that since he could lie about something that basic without a followup that gave him carte blanche to lie and obfuscate about subjects more complex.

STepper, I hope you know that Tom Schaller is an A...

2009-07-13T19:47:28.849-04:00

STepper, I hope you know that Tom Schaller is an Associate Professor, which means he (probably) has tenure. And I hope you know that "Publish or perish" is a phrase used for postdocs and assistant professors, rather than for people who have yet to write their theses.

Shane, the point about having a simple, consistent...

2009-07-13T19:43:12.809-04:00

Shane, the point about having a simple, consistent message isn't particularly Hitlerian. Hitler used it, but so have many other politicians, lawyers, advertisers, and PR people. In recent American elections, examples include Bush Sr.'s attacks on Dukakis for being a wimp, Clinton's "It's the economy, stupid" slogan, Bush Jr.'s promise to cut taxes, and Obama's themes of hope and change. Barring a few libertarians, you just won't find anyone who'll compare more than two of the above to Hitler.