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2009-03-12T04:42:00.001-04:00

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2009-03-12T04:42:00.000-04:00

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2009-02-09T02:17:00.000-05:00

How can we know the real shift in the electorate w...

2008-10-21T18:19:00.000-04:00

How can we know the real shift in the electorate when several states haven't been polled in almost a month or longer? South Dakota, Arkansas, Louisiana, Arizona, Nebraska, Tennessee are all places I am curious to see current trends in. Indiana hasn't been polled in three weeks.

BUT WHO ARE THEY VOTING FOR??? Any idea of who the...

2008-10-21T18:02:00.000-04:00

BUT WHO ARE THEY VOTING FOR??? Any idea of who the early voters are supporting? I just can't wait!!

OECD Report Finds Rising Income Inequality With U....

2008-10-21T17:54:00.000-04:00

OECD Report Finds Rising Income Inequality With U.S. Among Worst

Only two of 30 nations, Mexico and Turkey, are ahead of the United States for income inequality and poverty rates, or the gap between rich and poor, according to a report released Tuesday.

...

In America, the average income of the richest 10 percent of people is $93,000. When compared to purchasing power parity, it is the highest in the OECD when compared with the average of $54,000 for OECD nations.

The poorest 10 percent of Americans have an income of $5,800 per year, compared to the OECD average of $7,000.

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7012734983

Voted today in Atlanta Georgia (cobb county) - wai...

2008-10-21T17:51:00.000-04:00

Voted today in Atlanta Georgia (cobb county) - waited 2 1/2 hours - HUGE CROWD - PUMPED UP CROWD! Poll workers say crowds like this everyday!

"honestly, everyone should pay the SAME percentage...

2008-10-21T17:44:00.000-04:00

"honestly, everyone should pay the SAME percentage, if we were to be truly democratic."

I'd like to point out that we DO pay the same tax rate.

You pay 10% on the next $8,000 you earn, just like me.

You pay 15% on the next $24,000 you earn, just like me.

You pay 25% on the next $45,000 you earn, just like me.

And so on and so forth...

Oh, and how do you fell about the fact that Palin ...

2008-10-21T14:44:00.000-04:00

Oh, and how do you fell about the fact that Palin forced the hard-working oil companies of Alaska to give every man, woman and child in the state $3,269 last year? Your average Alaskan family of one state governor, one anti-American secessionist and five children earned $22,883 in socialist government handouts before they even get out of bed.

If you're so anti-socialist, why are you so keen to put someone who's actually implemented a socialist economic system in the Whitehouse?

IfMcCainDoesn'tWin:Why base number of wins on the ...

2008-10-21T14:31:00.000-04:00

IfMcCainDoesn'tWin:

Why base number of wins on the percentage of income paid as taxes? After all, if someone has an income of $100,000 and pays $30,000 in taxes, is he really contributing three times as much as someone who earns $300,000 and pays $30,000?

Why not just say that every dollar someone pays in taxes equals one vote? And then you could go a step further and make all taxation voluntary, so that people can choose how much representation they want, and no-one can complain about an onerous tax burden.

How could anyone hate that idea?

If there's a vast PUMA movement, they sure didn't ...

2008-10-21T13:19:00.000-04:00

If there's a vast PUMA movement, they sure didn't show up at the Democratic National Convention (the one place they'd have a chance for real impact). I saw the PUMA crowd marching up and down the mall and holding signs outside the convention center. PUMAs were outnumbered by Falun Gong practitioners, anarchists, Code Pink women for peace, American Indian Movement members, Guantanamo protesters in orange jump suits, and Nader/Gonzales supporters. PUMAs had about as much of a presence as PETA, Hare Krishnas, marijuana-legalization activists, and guys advertising for Verizon or MSNBC on Segways.

While there are some Hillary supporters who will v...

2008-10-21T12:09:00.000-04:00

While there are some Hillary supporters who will vote Republican, they are nothing like a movement. That was an astroturfing effort by some independents.

http://liz-henry.blogspot.com/2008/09/sockpuppets-and-astroturfing-in.html

The clues that "PUMAS" were going extinct were in ...

2008-10-21T11:01:00.000-04:00

The clues that "PUMAS" were going extinct were in plain sight in Denver. After a ton of hype and bloggy/media excitement, there were less than a hundred actual Clinton diehards going for McCain. They'd announce a "march" and you'd see 40 bitter women walking down the street yelling.

I do know one "PUMA" who is supporting McCain. She...

2008-10-21T10:38:00.000-04:00

I do know one "PUMA" who is supporting McCain. She also would vote for Biden over McCain, and loves the Clintons.

i think there are some Clinton supporters that secretly hope McCain will mess up so badly that Hillary will run and win in 2012.

Since Obama will win and do well, these people will be on his side in 2012.

I would not be surprised to see some southern states turn blue in 4 years.

20%? That is entirely possible. As Rasmussen also ...

2008-10-21T10:32:00.000-04:00

20%? That is entirely possible. As Rasmussen also states, most of this year's independents are 2004 republicans who are disappointed with their party (for a multitude of reasons, mostly Dubyah).

Using Rasmussen Party ID Weighting Zogby Would Be ...

2008-10-21T10:25:00.000-04:00

Using Rasmussen Party ID Weighting Zogby Would Be 52% to 41%.

Thanks, Heather. I thought of "Hillary" "Clinton"...

2008-10-21T10:24:00.001-04:00

Thanks, Heather. I thought of "Hillary" "Clinton" "Democrats"--none of those fitted in the acronym. And bitter is right! That's why I couldn't make it very far into their website. Talk about a woman scorned!

PUMAs never existed in any large form. The proof ...

2008-10-21T10:24:00.000-04:00

PUMAs never existed in any large form. The proof is in every poll since the conventions. The GOP would have been ahead by 8 to 10 points on Sept. 5 if PUMAs existed in the totals the pundits projected.

The Democrats may have the most solid coalition of constituencies within their party in 2008 since Johnson in 1964.

Why do I say that? The only constituency that existed then within the party does not exist now: the Dixiecrat. All other demographic groups are with Obama.

This is not a single election movement as much as it could be a generational movement toward the center/left from the center/right.

Here's a GREAT way to support Senator Obama while ...

2008-10-21T10:06:00.000-04:00

Here's a GREAT way to support Senator Obama while he visits his grandmother.....

PLEASE start posting on at least 3 blogs, per day reminders to VOTE EARLY and

ABSENTEE VOTE. Refer them to Senator Obama's website for their states

guidelines regarding VOTE EARLY/ABSENTEE VOTE in their state. This is one of

the best ways we can support Senator Obama THIS WEEK by maintaining his momentum.

If we hit big numbers THIS WEEK it will keep him in the news in a POSITIVE WAY.

http://www.barackobama.com/voters/

Let's knocked these EARLY/ABSENTEE VOTES out the park this week.

As the song goes, let's give them something to talk about.

PUMA is Party Unity My Ass. Group of bitter Hilla...

2008-10-21T09:52:00.000-04:00

PUMA is Party Unity My Ass. Group of bitter Hillary supporters that say they will rally dem support to McCain. Try puma08.com

Oh, and welcome!

Hellooo.... Anyone still reading/posting here? I...

2008-10-21T09:18:00.000-04:00

Hellooo.... Anyone still reading/posting here?

I'm relatively new to the site, and tho I've figured out what a PUMA is from context, I don't know what the acronym stands for. I tried going to the PUMA website, but didn't find it (couldn't stand to spend too much time there, to tell you the truth....).

Can anyone help? plzthx.

CNN-TIME state polls coming out today

2008-10-21T09:07:00.000-04:00

CNN-TIME state polls coming out today

Obama enters October with $133.6 million in hand

2008-10-21T09:01:00.000-04:00

Obama enters October with $133.6 million in hand

And, of all the things, McCain made them have tick...

2008-10-21T08:55:00.001-04:00

And, of all the things, McCain made them have tickets. I saw Obama in Kansas City.it was like a breath of fresh air. There were 75,000 people there. John should know not to speak in college towns. People tend to be more liberal there.

Your post is cracking me up. What a funny thing to read this early in the morning.

SHERWICK said...
A 'crowd' of 15, yes FIFTEEN, people greet McCain!

No, I'm not making this up: http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2008/10/20/mccain-land-columbia-regional-airport/

October 21, 2008 7:01 AM