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2009-10-15T02:22:56.578-04:00

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2009-04-16T22:30:00.000-04:00

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2008-11-12T19:05:00.000-05:00

Lesbian Obama-advocate here. All my queer friends are pro-Obama, but I do remember some kvetching about the sexism from Obama's campaign during the primaries.

70% of gays for Obama still shows an overwhelming tilt. However, since Obama and McCain had fairly identical stances on gay righs, and Sarah Palin actually vetoed an anti-gay state referendum, perhaps the gay rights factor was muted compared to Bush vs. Kerry, where Bush was perceived as a threat to gay rights, and Kerry as sympathetic.

But I'm wondering if it's just that more gays broke for independent candidates this time-- is there any breakdown for that?

The Green Party always gets some die-hards. And now there's also a conservative whose "keep your laws out of my personal life" stance may appeal to some in the LBGT community.

I found this thread on a queer blog showing a wide range of opinion about Ron Paul:
http://www.queerty.com/ron-paul-on-gay-marriage-20071210/

I've been experimenting a bit this evening. Readin...

2008-11-12T06:16:00.000-05:00

I've been experimenting a bit this evening. Reading about the Obama team's relationship with the "net roots," I decided to plot broadband penetration against Obama vote % and Obama % - McCain %. I did this with state data. Some correlation seems likely and the outliers make sense. See my Word face-Off blog. I'd be interested to hear some constructive criticism ;-)

I have not read every comment, but have to say tha...

2008-11-08T20:47:00.000-05:00

I have not read every comment, but have to say that Obama has gained over Kerry because of several factors:
1. He appears Genuine
2. He is equally as knowledgable
3. He appears as an everyman
4. By American standards, he is an intellectual
5. He can evidently bridge divides
6. He is consistent of the stump

I am sure that there is more to it. But these factors appear to indicate why he is more popular and able to raise as much money as he did.

People just like him.

mirrormirror said..."Minority populations in Europ...

2008-11-07T22:33:00.000-05:00

mirrormirror said...
"Minority populations in Europe are so low because there is no history of mass black slavery WITHIN the European continent. (Yes, we were complicit in the slave trade, but the slaves themselves were ending up in the plantations of the US and the Caribbean)."

Thank you so much for admitting this. Every time I go to Europe I get the sense that Europeans have either forgotten or willfully ignore that their countries and people started the American colonies and operated them for centuries.

You're all right about the size of minority groups, they're very small in Europe. Though the fact that France is only 12% visible minorities makes me wonder about why it's been so difficult to integrate them in the last few decades. Small percentage or not, there are things for you all to think about.

As for "Only in America," well this obviously ignores the multitude of countries that have already had non-White presidents. Granted the statement is trying to draw a contrast with Western countries with a large White majority, where it's fairer. I'm looking at you Canada. I want a South Asian or Chinese PM asap.

As for gender, America has elected a woman to every nearly every office but President. This is one area where it is definitely lagging behind, and I look forward to the day that this is amended. It's overdue.

goatdan:The map I linked to shows vote shifts: blu...

2008-11-07T10:42:00.000-05:00

goatdan:

The map I linked to shows vote shifts: blue = change towards DEM, red = change towards GOP. The original is here, but you need to click on "voting shifts" to see it. There is more discussion on it in the DeLong blog post I mentioned. My three explanations for the red shifts:

1. White South (OK, AR, TN, NE TX, N AL, E KY, FL panh, SW WV, W PA -- but not VA, NC, SC, MS, rest of AL and TX; GA is ambiguous)
2. Black migration (S LA and MS)
3. Hometown effects (IL, DE, HI, AZ, AK?, MA, TX?)

[wv: unwor - McPalin is unwor of my support]

Nate, as you know there is some very nasty and har...

2008-11-07T07:29:00.000-05:00

Nate, as you know there is some very nasty and harmful stuff going on about how black voters supposedly put Proposition 8 over the top. We really need your opinion on this.

you say 'it was those people who have most reason ...

2008-11-07T03:21:00.000-05:00

you say 'it was those people who have most reason to be concerned about the future who voted for Obama', but note that he also massively improved on Kerry among the top earners - despite it being very clear that McCain's tax plan was skewed towards them, while Obama's was skewed towards middle and low earners.

I think that shows there were a lot of people who voted Obama because they recognised his leadership qualities even though they won't gain any direct material benefit from his presidency.

Homeowners vs renters used to be common polling de...

2008-11-06T23:32:00.000-05:00

Homeowners vs renters used to be common polling demographics, but I didn't see that this year.

Renters have <50 percent of homeo0wner median income and trail homeowners in net worth by a magnitude.

This would be an interesting demographic to break out. (I would break it down even further.)

Are there ANY polls this year which address this?

exit polls comparison for urban, suburban, rural v...

2008-11-06T22:44:00.000-05:00

exit polls comparison for urban, suburban, rural voter?

I too was puzzled over the drop in support from le...

2008-11-06T22:25:00.000-05:00

I too was puzzled over the drop in support from lesbians and gays. The Log Cabin Republicans couldn't have endorsed Kerry in 2004 as someone mentioned though; they are not allowed to endorse dems. I do think Bush worried them more than McCain though. Palin, with her "pray away the gay" church, was another matter though.

Still, 70% is a high percentage. I am a lesbian and I and every other gay and lesbian individual I know voted for Obama except maybe one person who always votes Republican. I understand and I think most gays/lesbians understand that candidates can't really come out in support of gay marriage at this time and that really Obama and Biden will be the best we've had (even better than Clinton) in terms of supporting gay rights in general. So we work to get them in office and work on what we can and tackle the more difficult issues later.

The passing of Proposition 8 was a horrible blow; perhaps some of the people who came out in support of Obama (most likely straight African Americans) also supported Prop 8. But it's also true that the Proposition was poorly worded and that some people may have been genuinely confused.

In the end, having Obama and Biden in office will be better for civil rights for everyone, and Prop 8 will eventually go the way of prohibition.

McCain/Palin got a higher percentage of gays and M...

2008-11-06T20:58:00.000-05:00

McCain/Palin got a higher percentage of gays and Muslims?! I guess that's probably just because Bush was so hostile toward them.

Brain Starks:
I agree that the partisan shift does explain most of his success. Any additional boost from higher AA and youth turnout may have been offset by lower support from working-class white Democrats. So long as the Dems do a good job with the economy and don't allow more terrorist attacks in the US, they should be able to hang on to a majority until the GOP resolves its coming civil war at least.

It's interesting that Obama did not improve upon K...

2008-11-06T19:39:00.000-05:00

It's interesting that Obama did not improve upon Kerry's percentage of Democrat support and only increased among Republicans and Independents by 3 percent. This seems to suggest that Obama may have benefited enormously by the increasing Democratic party id among the electorate as a whole. I'd love to see someone do the math and estimate what portion of Obama's overall increase is due to the increasing number of overall Democrats vs. his increase based on doing better with a smaller chunk of Republicans when compared to 2004. My guess is that over half of the change will be due to the overall Democratic trend of party identification. This suggests that much of the "Obama effect" can be understood as a partisan shift...which one could interpret in many ways, one of which is that this shift might lead to long term changes in politics beyond even Obama's tenure in office.

Obama spoke out against CA's Prop 8. Perhaps he wa...

2008-11-06T18:30:00.000-05:00

Obama spoke out against CA's Prop 8. Perhaps he wasn't emphatic enough, but he did say it was wrong.

"to show that across the heart of the south (exclu...

2008-11-06T18:15:00.000-05:00

"to show that across the heart of the south (excluding parts of Texas and Florida) Obama underperformed not only Clinton ('92 and '96) and Gore, but even John Kerry?"

@ Thomas -- not to defend the potentially racist, but I think that you can look at that in a variety of ways. One thing that I would argue is that those areas of the country are generally looked upon as some of the lowest educated areas of the country. The tactics of calling Obama a terrorist-paller, socialist person would ring more true with that portion of the country than anywhere else, in my opinion.

Did you have any conversations with people that were uneducated? I ended up with one that I didn't want to be in where the person I was talking with told me that Sarah Palin had a ton of foreign relations experience, and when I said, "Yup, 'cause she can see Alaska from her house!" (me, thinking this other person was being sarcastic...) said, "Oh, that was just Saturday Night Live, that's not what she really said."

That person got extremely, *extremely* angry with me when I said the Saturday Night Live sketch was word for word in most parts from the actual interview, and that I didn't find the sketch funny at all, I found it terrifying. She said I should go and try to find the actual interview since Sarah was clearly a genius and sounded "ready to be the next President!"

So anywho, it *may* not be racist people. It *may* just be extremely stupid people.

@ ogmb -- is that map that you linked at the shift...

2008-11-06T17:52:00.000-05:00

@ ogmb -- is that map that you linked at the shift in voting patterns throughout the country, or ???? Without a key of some type, it makes no sense to me as Utah for instance is wholly blue, yet obviously didn't vote for Obama. Anyone have the source that comes from?

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I've been experimenting a bit this evening. Readin...

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mirrormirror said..."Minority populations in Europ...

goatdan:The map I linked to shows vote shifts: blu...

Nate, as you know there is some very nasty and har...

you say 'it was those people who have most reason ...

Homeowners vs renters used to be common polling de...

exit polls comparison for urban, suburban, rural v...

I too was puzzled over the drop in support from le...

McCain/Palin got a higher percentage of gays and M...

It's interesting that Obama did not improve upon K...

Obama spoke out against CA's Prop 8. Perhaps he wa...

"to show that across the heart of the south (exclu...

@ ogmb -- is that map that you linked at the shift...

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