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2009-01-16T05:03:00.000-05:00

Cartograms look pretty cool because those tiny urb...

2009-01-13T16:47:00.000-05:00

Cartograms look pretty cool because those tiny urban districts get the same size as the giant rural districts... makes the country look more blue. A cartogram should always be a "secondary" view, though, because they otherwise look to darn weird.

I'm going to repeat another person's previous comm...

2009-01-13T13:29:00.000-05:00

I'm going to repeat another person's previous comment:

Try hexagons or octagons... you'll be able to better maintain the shape of each state and the relative position of districts.

I stand by my previous comment of overlaying a 40% transparency (or thereabouts) abbreviation for each state in yellow.

66gardeners said...FYI: Maryland's first district ...

2009-01-02T15:29:00.000-05:00

66gardeners said...
FYI: Maryland's first district was won by dem Frank Kratovil after a bruising primary where 18-year repub imcumbent Wayne Gilchrest lost to right-wing partisan Andy Harris

Dude, you're looking at DE's seat. Took me a second, too.

Nate has MD-01 with the rest of MD that's blue, except for Bartlett's 6th CD.

An alternate black-and-white version would be usef...

2009-01-02T13:12:00.000-05:00

An alternate black-and-white version would be useful for the colorblind. Suggestion--use one of the pinstripe backgrounds in Excel, vertical for Democrats and horizontal for Republicans (these match the conventions in heraldry for drawing red and blue). This also works for the Senate map, I think.

I second the idea of indicating every state in its first district box, but suggest also including the number (eg TN1 for Tennessee's 1st), or a star (WY*) for at-large seats.

On the question of who loses a seat if you add DC: under most current estimates, in 2010, it will be South Carolina. (On the 2000 census, it's North Carolina, and on the 1990, it was Washington state.)

i am also currently working on a map showing the c...

2008-12-31T19:00:00.000-05:00

i am also currently working on a map showing the congressional districts. . .i recently made this map of the 2008 electoral college. . http://redorangeorangeonred.com/portfolio/current/the%20college.html

i will share mine soon once its complete. . and looking forward to seeing what you come up with. . .

If you do use this map style, I would at least lik...

2008-12-31T08:01:00.000-05:00

If you do use this map style, I would at least like there to be a clearer delineation of states. Just some sort of solid line between the states, rather than just a gap, would make it much easier to determine which district is where.

why even bother with this style?create a map that ...

2008-12-30T14:31:00.000-05:00

why even bother with this style?

create a map that has all the state rendered as their shape. then, as people hover over the state a table showing all this information could appear.

of course, you east coasters probably won't like that, but that's your fault for creating small states in the past. go to war and claim some of the larger states as your own. of course, that negates the united states concept, but at least you'll have a larger chunk of the pie, right?
/that's sarcasm, people.

It's doubtful how many will expend the energy to g...

2008-12-29T23:39:00.000-05:00

It's doubtful how many will expend the energy to get to this low spot on this thread but here goes:

Many of the corrective suggestions provided (while notably valid) don't proscribe completely to the Nate's stated requirements.

I'm perceiving that an unstated requirement of Nate's is that he's looking for a solution whereby the generation of the map is Excel-based. The groupies of the site will recall Nate's self-comparison to McGayver when it comes to Excel and how he produced his maps during the election season.

Successfully creating state (and DC) outlines to be roughly total population proportional and simutaneously representing inter-state population densities using the same scale all the while being Excel producable is bound to hit some limits. (Insert homage to Abraham Lincoln's "all the people all of the time" here.)

Nate:
1) Fix the boo-boos,
2) Close the clarity gap with state labels as necessary (perhaps all the "At Large" states is sufficient), and
3) Let her rip.

I'm looking forward to your graphic representations of congressional activity along with the erudite narratives that will accompany them.

P.S.

I know I'd find myself experimenting with some non-white borders between states to make it look less like USA "air hockey" but the ROI goes to zero quickly in these situations.

The problem with the Daily Kos map is that it goes...

2008-12-29T23:21:00.000-05:00

The problem with the Daily Kos map is that it goes by area. Take a look at Southern California or the New York area... how many Congressional districts are there there? Are they Democratic or Republican? You can't tell; they're too crowded together.

I do like the suggestion above about showing a regular map, but then having a nice graphical element like a colored circle represent each district. Any reasonably-sized circle will be too big to fit into the biggest metro areas without crowding, but there should be a way to fit them onto the map somehow without distorting the size.

I'll second mglutton above that the Daily Kos map...

2008-12-29T19:05:00.000-05:00

I'll second mglutton above that the Daily Kos map is close to an ideal representation (though even there I notice it's difficult to figure out, for example, where the NYC boroughs lie).

But if I understand Nate's post, the goal here is to come up with something that is:
a) relatively economical in pixels and bandwidth, and
b) functional in the same way the the Electoral College maps were (i.e. automatically updatable by a spreadsheet or database).

To that end, I think Nate's rough idea could be useful with tweaks. Obviously the mountain/prairie West is totally illegible right now; Assuming this is plotted on a rectangular grid, it shouldn't be hard to move ND, SD, MT WY and ID closer to their actual locations in that giant whitespace.

In general, I think it would be good to "explode" the map a bit more to make the state borders a little easier to see.

And one minor tweak: MA should either be rectangular, or "wrapped" south around RI rather than north around NH (it's CD's 4 & 10 that are east of RI). If I'm seeing this right, you could then move ME "south" a square and save a whole row at the top.

While overall it works pretty well, the mountain w...

2008-12-29T16:18:00.000-05:00

While overall it works pretty well, the mountain west fails pretty badly on readability. I'd definitely shift those states around in the white space to move them closer to their relative geographical centers. At the very least move MT, ID and ND up to fill in the top edge and leave the hole in the middle rather than making a large bay of it. I also like the idea of adding a state abbreviation square to each state. Or just turn every district 1 into the state abbreviation.

If you like it fine, there is no easy way, so sinc...

2008-12-29T14:42:00.000-05:00

If you like it fine, there is no easy way, so since its your site Id say go for it. You havent got anything wrong (except for CK) yet!

The fact that Alaska has only one lonely vote (red...

2008-12-29T14:27:00.000-05:00

The fact that Alaska has only one lonely vote (red or otherwise) is oddly comforting.

That map looks like the democratic donkey...

2008-12-29T13:53:00.000-05:00

That map looks like the democratic donkey...

Hi Nate, I tried to post this yesterday - sorry i...

2008-12-29T12:24:00.000-05:00

Hi Nate,

I tried to post this yesterday - sorry if it is a duplicate.

Personally, I found the map to be quite intuitive and easy to understand, even without the explanation below it.

Here is a suggestion for arranging the districts within my own state of Georgia so that their location within the map more or less matches their location in real life:

(1st row) 9 10
(next row) 11 6 4 7
(next row) 3 13 5 12
(last row) 2 8 1

Or, alternatively, the first two rows could be:

11 9
6 4 7 10

I think the two options have approximately equivalent inaccuracies; the first one does at least get all the corners right.

Using more blocks per district can help, as well a...

2008-12-29T10:46:00.000-05:00

Using more blocks per district can help, as well as exploding urban centers outside of their normal boundaries.

See e.g. this effort for the UK, which also features hover-over constituency names (in IE, not Firefox annoyingly):

http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/index.html?dynamicmap.html

I think the NY Times has a better compromise in th...

2008-12-29T10:44:00.000-05:00

I think the NY Times has a better compromise in this map. They've distorted the shape of some states more than you, but it has allowed them to maintain more geographic clarity. *shrug*

@Thomas said You should label the first district i...

2008-12-29T10:42:00.000-05:00

@Thomas said You should label the first district in each state with the state abbreviation rather than a "1".

That's a very interesting idea. It solves several problems.

@FRED: I agree, and I'd go further: Just a square ...

2008-12-29T10:10:00.000-05:00

@FRED: I agree, and I'd go further: Just a square with a number, all square or circles the same size, centered on the congressional district it represents. connect the object by lines to the congressional districts it borders. That conveys all of the information. If wanted, you could put a faded outline of the USA behind the map as a clue.

I would put in the square the two-letter postal abbreviation of the state as well; e.g. TX-9.

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Cartograms look pretty cool because those tiny urb...

I'm going to repeat another person's previous comm...

66gardeners said...FYI: Maryland's first district ...

An alternate black-and-white version would be usef...

i am also currently working on a map showing the c...

If you do use this map style, I would at least lik...

why even bother with this style?create a map that ...

It's doubtful how many will expend the energy to g...

The problem with the Daily Kos map is that it goes...

I'll second mglutton above that the Daily Kos map...

While overall it works pretty well, the mountain w...

If you like it fine, there is no easy way, so sinc...

The fact that Alaska has only one lonely vote (red...

That map looks like the democratic donkey...

Hi Nate, I tried to post this yesterday - sorry i...

Using more blocks per district can help, as well a...

I think the NY Times has a better compromise in th...

@Thomas said You should label the first district i...

@FRED: I agree, and I'd go further: Just a square ...

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