No, this is not a poker post.
Instead, it's one about Kay Bailey Hutchison, the Texas senator, who today announced that it's full speed ahead in her bid to challenge to Texas' incumbent governor, Rick Perry. The news comes to absolutely no one's surprise as Hutchison has been contemplating this race for years and long ago hired consultants and established a website toward her bid, while already having raised some $6.7 million dollars on behalf of it.
Hutchison once appeared to be the favorite in her primary fight against Perry, but it's not clear if that's any longer the case. The polling in this race has been a little bit sketchy, but seems to point toward momentum in Perry's direction. After trailing in the five previous polls of the race (including internal polls conducted by his campaign and by Hutchison's), Perry has pulled ahead in the last three:
Here's that same data in graph form:
This should be a fun race to follow -- especially if Sarah Palin, who seems to have a mutual grudge with Hutchison and has already endorsed Perry -- gets further involved.
Perhaps the more interesting question for our purposes however is when and if Hutchison will resign her seat in the Senate to concentrate on her pursuit of the governorship. This would trigger a special election in which Democrats could be quite competitive. We have been alert to this possibility for some time now, which is why you see Texas included on our list of potentially competitive Senate races.
Ironically, we had just downgraded the race on speculation that the turnaround in the polling might deter Hutchison from pursuing the governorship after all. Obviously, we were wrong about that. But the fact remains that there's nothing compelling Hutchison to resign her Senate seat until and unless she becomes governor. It's her decision when and whether she wants to resign.
The smart bet, though, is that the resignation is coming (to the great annoyance of Hutchison's colleague in the Senate, John Cornyn). For one thing, this is a pretty big prize that Hutchison is competing for: becoming governor of the nation's second-biggest state. If Texas were to secede, it would have a larger GDP than all but eleven countries (the U.S., Japan, China, Germany, France, the U.K., Italy, Russia, Spain, Brazil and Canada). Hutchison would also become one of the most powerful female governors in history. Of the country's five largest states, only Texas itself has ever had a woman governor (Ann Richards), and it's population was about 25 percent smaller then. And of course, being governor of Texas is an obvious jumping off point for anyone with presidential ambitions.
Also, if Hutchison is losing momentum to Perry, that could cut both ways in terms of her desire to remain in the Senate. On the one hand, she might have more to lose by failing to hedge her bets. On the other hand, it might be precisely that bet-hedging that is getting her into trouble. Perry has been able to grandstand by doing things like threatening to have Texas secede and refusing to take federal stimulus monies. It is harder to capture that sort of attention when you're one of 100 senators. And of course, Texans tend to be no fans of Washingtonians, which is how Hutchison might be perceived if she refused to give up her Senate seat.
Finally, even if Hutchison were to hold on to her Senate seat and win the governorship, she would not be able to punt the special election all the way until November 2012, when her Senate term naturally comes due. That is because Texas is one of a dozen states with a "fast" special elections law, meaning that an election in that case would be held in the Spring of 2011.
This does, however, give Hutchison some measure of control over the timing of the special election. If she were to resign soon, an election could be held this November. If she waited a little longer, it could instead be held in March. And if she kept her seat until the end of the year before resigning, the special election would be put off until November 2010. The conventional wisdom seems to be that the March timing would be most favorable to Republicans, since it would probably elicit the lowest turnout -- a boon to the party in a state where base voters are still very red. We would put our money on Hutchison going 'all-in' sometime this autumn.
7.14.2009
Will Kay Bailey Hutchison Play Texas Hold 'Em?
by Nate Silver @ 12:28 AM...see also 2010, governor, special elections, texas
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Does Texas have open primaries? Perry is such a wack-a-doodle that there might be Dem crossover just to prevent him from getting another term, not that it really matters because...
For one thing, this is a pretty big prize that Hutchison is competing for: becoming governor of the nation's second-biggest state.
Nate, constitutinally the Texas governorship is weak. It was one of the reasons that Bush was so unqualified (besides the stupidity).
"Of the country's five largest states, only Texas itself has ever had a woman governor (Ann Richards), and it's population was about 25 percent smaller then."
Think you meant to use the possessive "its" there, instead of the contraction, "it's".
In the list of female governors of Texas, don't forget Ma Ferguson. "If the King's English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for the children of Texas!"
No disrespect, Nate, but there will never be anyone as gifted at summarizing even the most convoluted Texas political situation in one biting essay as the late Molly Ivins.
However, Texas Democrats do have a candidate in Bill White who is probably as strong a candidate as Democrats have had in Texas in at least a decade. It's still Texas and it's still red, but White could give Cornyn another reason to reach for the Rolaids.
Can someone tell me why she is running for this? As a Republican, it is very unseemly to me. She is already U.S. Senator from Texas. With Republicans having as much trouble as they are, the last thing we need is a sitting U.S. Senator leaving to PRIMARY another Republican! She needs to be told in NO uncertain terms to stay in the Senate and shut the hell up.
And if she does run, why would she win? She's a pretty liberal Republican...in TEXAS. I'm just not getting the motivation here. Texans are hopefully smart enough to keep Perry. Female governors of both parties tend to be disasters (Blanco, Whitman, Swift, Granholm).
John: It's all about personal ambitions. Far as I can tell...No more, no less.
Yes, Texas does have open primaries.
And I think Hutchison WILL run against Perry. She's one of those Republicans who, like Gingrich, looks around the party and sees not only the rank and file, but the traditional leadership screwing up their future electoral chances. And she has the ambition to try to turn that around by becoming a leader of the party.
She see a leadership role amongst the Republicans as her rightful place, and one that she has more than earned over the years. From a political perspective, I can't say I disagree.
She also know that the Republicans are going to need experienced, qualified women to at least compete for the Presidential nomination, especially after the recent embarrassment of Sarah Palin.
And she sees Perry as kind of an albatross around Texas Republicans' necks. Even though he keeps winning, he hurts the Republican brand in the state while he holds the position. As long as Perry is governor, the MOST the Republicans can hope to do in Texas is hold their ground, electorally. And even that is an extremely long shot.
If Texas Republicans don't change the image of their leadership, they're going to get steamrolled by the Democrats over the next twelve years, whether it comes sooner or later. Hutchison knows this.
It's going to be an interesting little civil war that's been a long time coming.
@Jen - last I heard they have open primaries.
@John - not sure I should be answering this since your last comment set off "obvious troll is obvious" vibes -- last I checked, female governors weren't auctioning off Senate seats, advocating secession, or jetting off to Argentina -- but Texas is not THAT conservative of a state, and Hutchison is a popular senator. She hovers around 60% approval, which is better than Perry who's around 50%. The "Democrats for Hutchison" crossover appeal might not play to the primary voters but it's there, and she's going to take advantage of it.
I wish I knew more about Hutchison. The talk is that she is more reasonable (i.e. less insane) than the typical Conservative circus of paranoid fundie idiocy. And it would be hard to not be as crazy as Perry is, and given the number of apparently disastrous governors in the country, it would be hard for her not to be abler than many. And Governor of Texas does not demand any significant foreign policy experience (which is fortunate, since the last time I saw he interviewed, she seemed to believe that Obama was wrong to not have chosen sides, because the US is "seen as a beacon of freedom and democracy in Iran." She should read a bit about Middle East/US history if she wants to run for President.) But if she turns around Texas, that is better for the country and, ironically, better for Obama and thus the Democrats also. And then if her Senate seat goes to a Democrat, it is a win-win-win!
The possibility that Hutchinson could run for president brings up a really interesting point - one that fivethirtyeight might cover sometime.
I think that after our whole experience with Hillary Clinton shows that the nation is ready for a woman president, to the extent that any party who nominates one has a major leg up in a subsequent election. I was no fan of those who said Barack Obama had any kind of advantage because of his race - I thought the opposite was true - but it is far more likely to be the case if the candidate is female.
I'd say that Americans are so fatigued on Republicans, and Texans in particular, that there is no way in hell we'll see a president come from there in the next 30 years. But Hutchinson is a woman, and that is seen as so fresh - and so called for - that there might be a chance it could happen. Not in 2012, of course, but maybe 2016. Is that what she's in it for?
Both parties should be feeling out female candidates for 2016 if they want to win. This is where I see fivethirtyeight doing an entry. What are the potential candidates on either side?
Democrats have a major leg up now because we have the White House, and Obama can work to set up future candidates by putting them in the right position. Would Biden retire as VP? Probably not. Nor would Hillary be the most likely candidate in 2016 - she'll be quite old - but who knows.
Could Obama's Sebelius pick have been, ultimately, a play to allow her to run for President sometime in the future? If not - if she, too, is too old - how about Napolitano? I would say this probably wasn't Obama's thinking, but it might explain why he made the otherwise un-smart decision of taking two potentially viable senate candidates out of the ring.
Rife with inaccuracies. A previous commenter caught the mistake alleging that Ann Richards was the only woman governor of Texas--the first was Miriam Ferguson in 1925. The bigger mistake is not knowing the date of the special election if and when Kay resigns. State law prohibits a special election concurrent with the primary elections in both parties, so if Kay resigns after late September, the Special would be on the next uniform election date--May 8, 2010-a low turnout day which benefits Democrats due to predominately urban city council and school board races being on the ballot.
Texan Here.
Don't count Kay out, she is a lying two-faced back-stabbing scheming politician with the best of them. If she is running she thinks she can win, and so do I.
Perry was definitely playing to the play-doh eating tea-party kook base with his secession comment and that kind of childish behavior is not soon forgotten down here. The Texas voters I know are not happy with that kind of insincere tea-party pandering; some of the Republicans have called it treason. Texans joke about independence, but a good 70% of us realize Perry is an idiot doing our state no favors, and we don't like babies threatening to hold their breath if they don't get their way. Perry is a pretty little boy throwin' a tantrum, most of us down here don't much like that image. He needs to man up, and right now Kay is a much tougher customer him.
She really should resign the senate and start campaigning full time if she really wants to win.
It appears she expected a coronation but with all the right wingers down there she will have a fight on her hands.
I say resign now and start fighting to win or just forget it and stay in the senate. My guess is she is bored being in the minority with no chance of regaining the majority in the near future.
It appears the state GOP fears losing the seat in a special election.
Of the country's five largest states, only Texas itself has ever had a woman governor
You mean of the five most populous states, not the largest - there's a certain ex-governor of the largest state who's making headlines now ...
As for Kay Bailey, she's no fundie, she's a proper Southern lady with old-fashioned views, pretty humorless and no-nonsense - kind of like George Bush, Sr. and with the financial conservative / social hands-offness bona fides to match.
And she's running for governor to get executive experience and away from Washington for a possible Presidential run, plain and simple.
Worth noting is that formally, at least, the office of the Texas governorship is relatively constrained by design, with an extraordinary allocation of authority to the Lieutenant Governor in the area of legislative powers. So while Hutchinson " would also become one of the most powerful female governors in history" from a soft/political standpoint, appointment power would be her main weapon otherwise.
I am a Texan. Sad to be one, at times, none more so than when reflecting on our governor. Rick Perry is a certifiable idiot. Kay Baily is not a whole lot better, but she's got to be better. And just when I thought it couldn't get worse, Nate suggests that Sarah Palin might somehow insert herself into the mix. This would be like the Spurs losing to the Mavericks, and then the Lakers winning the title. The horror.
Hutchison could always try and pull a Huey Long if she wins the governorship and hold on to both seats. I'd pay money to see that happen nowadays
Another Texan here.
Perry was re-elected in the last cycle because the competition was split between Kinky Friedman, One Tough Grandma, the generic Dem and him. Perry ended up with just over 40% of the vote, and has horrible approval ratings and public image locally.
Also, a look at the last presidential election map shows Texas moving bluer and bluer - especially in the urban areas and in the south. Texas is in fact VERY blue in Dallas proper, Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, and along the Mexican border.
I'm an independent that leans left, but if the Dems don't put up anyone reasonable then I'll vote Hutchinson for sure. She may be a Republican, but at least she's a human being. Perry is a puppet and everyone hates him.
She needs to be told in NO uncertain terms to stay in the Senate and shut the hell up.
And if she does run, why would she win? She's a pretty liberal Republican...in TEXAS. I'm just not getting the motivation here. Texans are hopefully smart enough to keep Perry. Female governors of both parties tend to be disasters (Blanco, Whitman, Swift, Granholm).
John, I think you are showing your issues with women here. I could easily say the same about male governors or Senators and none of the above were/are poor governors, just governors in difficult situations. There really is only one disaster of a female governor and you didn't mention her and the only reason I would call her a disaster instead of "fair" is she quit when times got hard. Ask yourself before posting, am I letting my personal prejudices show through? If the answer is yes, perhaps you should keep your bigotry to yourself.
Prospero, thanks. I thought I did, but since my father passed, so did my insight on Texas politics.
Another Texan here. I second quincyscott and Rene. KBH is a ding-a-ling, but she is a whole lot better than Perry, who is a divisive fundamentalist idiot.
KBH is already 65; she'll be too old to run for President in 2016. By then, I hope that TX has at least one democratic U.S. Senator.
I find it impossible to believe that Hutchinson would give up her Senate seat just to run for governor. Even if she thought it a good idea, the old bull elephants at the top of the party would not allow it.
As to the contest between her and Perry—who cares? It’s like watching two iguanas fight. One will eventually come out on top, but it’ll still be an iguana. Would the governorship of Texas propel Hutchinson into the White House? No way. First, the country is pretty well fed up with Texans in high office, a sentiment that will only increase as more of the illegalities of the Bush Administration are untangled and brought up from the crypt. Also, Lady Kay will be well into her seventies in 2012. My sense is the country isn’t in the mood to allow any more septuagenarian conservatives near the controls.
Erratum—“Lady Kay will be well into her seventies in 2016…”
I also agree. I think people from outside the state don't get just how unpopular Rick Perry is. I'd vote for Kay Bailey just to register my displeasure with him.
That having been said, I wish the Democrats could find someone personable to run.
Speaking of Governors (or soon to be former Governors), SarahPac raised $730,000 in funds to date. Have you guys been clicking the ads on this site? Traitors.
All kidding aside, with the Republican party imploding upon itself in plummeting poll numbers, hypocrisy drenched sex scandals, and lack of clear vision, I've continually thought that the time is ripe for a new party. Wonder if Palin is purposely thinking of leading this charge or if she is just acting in her own self interests and being portrayed as the reluctant messiah?
Obviously I think some variation of the latter is the case but conservatives have often proved in the past that perception is 90% of reality. I shudder to think.
Count me as another Texan who would vote for Hutchison over Perry. I voted for Strayhorn in 2006.
While it's true that anyone is better than Perry, I'm really excited about Hutchison's campaign. Her ideas strike me as fresh--something that's been missing in the governor's mansion for about ten years.
I find the trends interesting for one main reason: Perry is everywhere on the map, but it's KBH who's steadily declining and losing points.
BUT look at the numbers. Tough to correlate a move from KBH to Perry. Rather, votes are moving from KBH to undecided.
Which means two things: A) these votes are moderate Repubs who can probably be brought back into the fold once her campaign picks up or B)we've got a Kinky/Strayhorn third party candidate who will suck the fervor out of this middle ground in the primary and the general.
If B happens, we're stuck with Perry again, because we've got two sects down here: Perry and anti-Perry.
Yet another Texan's view:
Perry is not popular here except with the true wing nuts. While he
is pandering to them with his talk
of secession and tea bagging, he is
lining up a 1/2 million dollar a
year job at Texas A&M if he does
get the boot (he appointed cronies
as regents and system chancellor
who can then appoint him at TAMU
president.)
KBH may not be much more liberal
but she seems to be less self
absorbed and self serving than
Perry.
Budget wise Texas has one of the weakest Governors in the country. It is one of the few, if not only state, where the legislature also prepares a budget. Something like duel-budgeting as opposed to an executive budget model.
My understanding on the democratic side is John Sharp and Bill White are the two current hopefulls. Which could make for a competitive primary.
I would like to give a Plug for Bill White. He was a great Mayor of Houston and would still be Mayor if he weren't term-limited out.
A retirement job or stepping stone to a Presidential ticket.
A fool could be the Governor of Texas (a Ceremonial position) and has been.
while it may be true that the Governor of Texas is more ceremonial than other executives, history has shown what a competent leader can do. As a Texan living abroad (Alabama that is) I know of what I write. Ann Richards was one of the greatest governors in the history of the state. The success of Texas under her leadership was only equaled by the utter failure of her successors. After more than a decade of Prince George followed by Governor Goodhair, Texas has fallen to Alabamian stature. KBH has proven herself to be a skilled legislator and shrewd politician. She understands the strengths and weaknesses of the position. Perhaps she is looking for a retirement job or a springboard to the White House. I think she is a proud Texan who wants to help the greatest state in the union return to her days of glory. At least she couldn't do any worse than Prettyboy Perry. Hook 'em.
Texas is an open-primary state, and Governor Goodhair is deeply despised by Democrats. Many of us will be crossing over to vote for KBH in the primary just to boot his sorry ass back to the sinecure he's so carefully constructed at Texas A&M.
Too bad, Aggies; it's a shame that a once-respectable institution will have to cope with his stupidity, but you'll have to be sacrificed for the good of the state as a whole. There is some poetic justice here: you granted him a degree and appeared to like him just fine when he was a Yell Leader.
Take him back with our blessings.
AS for Hutchinson v. Perry -- who cares?
Texas Republicans are like vicious plague rats that just won't stay home and gnaw on each other, they have to spread out and infect the rest of America.
Talking about Hutchinson, the right-wing corporate whore, who has received MORE money from the Oil & Gas lobby than any other politician in America, as if she were a creditable human being is laughable.
You Texans seem to be adept at parsing invisible signs of "moderation" as a reason to vote for someone who's basically an extreme right-wing corporate shill with a meaningless "moderate" veneer that only makes her more dangerous.
We're MUCH better off with Perry! He's such a total clown that the chances of him ever becoming a national figure are ZILCH -- which is all to the good.
Keep your zombie Republican morons down there in Texas. Your state has already done more than enough damage to the rest of the world for any one century with the two Bushes! Do us all a favor and vote for Perry if you can't elect anyone decent!
A lot of idiots are bashing Perry missing the big Texas picture:
1. Texas has had one of the best economic performances of the 50 states in the last 5 years. Perry is running on his good economic record.
2. Perry has not advocated secession but states rights, a position that 70% of Texans agree with. Everytime a lib brings it up in faux outrage it HELPS Perry.
3. Perry crushed in 2002 over Sanchez. Perry dug himself a hole over TTC, thats why he ran weak in 2006 (but still won), but has been digging himself out of it.
4. Every time a liberal says "Hutchison is not as bad as Perry" it costs her more votes in the GOP primary. Texas Republicans vote conservative, if Perry is the more conservative candidate, he wins, end of story.
5. van de Putte bowed out of the Gov race, means the Dems dont have a high-profile candidate. Basically Dems are throwing in the towel on the Govs race and will put their chips on the Senate race. They will lose there too.
The Obama/Dem agenda of energy taxes, mandates/taxes on healthcare, and trillion dollar deficits will be an anchor around their necks.
PS. To the folks using "clown", "moron", "idiot" etc.: Insulting the best state in the union and the good people of Texas along with stupid insults about Perry, Republicans, conservatives, etc. really only shows that liberals are vicious haters. Well done. Texas will re-elect Perry JUST TO ANNOY YOU.
Oh ... 3 reasons KBH will lose the primary:
#6. KBH voted for the bailout, TARP. That's a very unpopular vote and its why Perry campaign is calling her "Senator Bailout". Perry has his issue, and that issue alone is enough for grassroots conservatives to reject KBH.
#7. Prolife vote will go Perry.
#8. Perry has run a more aggressive campaign, leveraging social media. Perry is web2.0, KBH is old-style. She hasnt had a tough race since 1993.
Dem crossover moderates could cut the margin. If I were KBH, I'd be calling Dem primary voters. But if she curries those votes, she loses the conservatives; End of day, Perry wins.
"BUT look at the numbers. Tough to correlate a move from KBH to Perry. Rather, votes are moving from KBH to undecided."
Correlation is clear: KBH fell from grace after voting for TARP.
Freedom's Truth:
Don't forget Texas is also the Biggest State in the Country!
(wait for the ice to melt.) :)
This would make for an interesting primary... Perry a former TAMU yell leader and Hutchison a former Longhorn cheerleader. Hopefully all voting Aggies in the state will put their "gung-ho" differences aside and cast their vote for the candidate that is much better for our state... even if her blood does run orange! ;o)
Frank: Yet another Texan's view: Perry is not popular here except with the true wing nuts.
Be careful assuming that the natives, like Frank and others commenting here, are offering an accurate "view from the ground" analysis.
In the University of Texas poll, Perry had 42% approval rating versus 32% disapproval *. In the Texas Lyceum poll it was 57% approve vs. 30% disapprove**. In both polls, right under 30% IDed as Democrats.
Now Frank may well believe that somewhere between 40 and 60 percent of Texans are "true wing nuts" but don't be fooled in to thinking that Perry is somehow admired only by a small fringe of the state.
* http://www.laits.utexas.edu/txp_media/html/poll/files/200906-summary.pdf
**http://www.texaslyceum.org/media/staticContent/PubCon_Journals/2009/texas_lyceum_2009_poll_results.pdf
And yet another Texan:
As a Dem who watches the TX GOP closely...
Perry (a certifiable idiot) has the Christianist wing-nuts wrapped up -- but he doesn't have enough sense to reach out to the balance of the party: urban-suburban/educated/social moderates.
KBH will do better with the state's fiscal conservatives (despite the TARP vote). These folks are downright embarrassed by the guy.
Perry's supporters are rabid and will turn out big-time. KBH's huge challenge will be to get her base out.
Unless Perry is caught in bed with a live boy (and there are plenty of rumors) or a dead girl, he'll likely win the primary.
This is the best scenario for the the Dems.
Texan here.
Frankly, given the way the governor has very little power, I was surprised at Hutchinson's interest, until someone mentioned her age. She's not looking for a springboard to power, but rather a transition from a public servant to retirement, which the governor's mansion would provide.
Frankly, I feel like joining her campaign for the primary though I probably wouldn't vote for her in the general, simply because I don't want Perry around for any longer. He's an embarrassment who panders to the fundies and kooks. KBH isn't any more sincere, but at least she tends to play both sides against the middle.
In any case, I'd rather see Bill White not go up against her in his Senate bid.
The only one who got this right is freedom's truth. It is the economy stupid. Texas has been able to weather this down turn pretty well and the incumbant in office always gets the credit or blame whether deserved or not.
Perry has made a tremendous comeback in Texas. If it wasn't for Kinky and Strayhorn splitting the vote, he would have lost the last election. Since then, Texas has weathered some pretty serious disasters:
1. I already mentioned the economy, also throw in the budget. While the Californians are dropping markers all over town we in Texas are sipping our Margaritas and laughing at their ineptness.
2. Katrina: As an admitted Perry hater, I have to say that I was very impressed with the way he opened up our state to the evacuees
2a. Rita: Two weeks later another monster storm almost hit Houston/Galveston. The evacuation of Houston was an unmitigated disaster. My own cousin tried to flee with his family, but got stuck in a 12 hour traffc jam and eventually had to go back or run out of gas. Fortunately for Perry, the storm veered off, which saved him any blame and exposed the inadequies of Houston's disaster plan. This was a blessing because...
3. Ike: ...this year Houston/Galveston did get directly hit by a nasty storm. After the dry run of Rita, the response to Ike was flawless. The people in inland houston stayed put while those nearer the coast fled. After, the response was well coordinated. Like Rita, this storm helped Texas in the next disaster. By reducing the available housing stock, and those affected being compensated by insurance, I think this storm helped blunt some of the sting from the housing crunch.
Perry is by no means out of the woods. Word is that Texas's budget issues will be coming next year. I think how that goes down will turn the election.
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