In 2008, Barack Obama presented himself as a fresh face on the scene not only to Americans but to citizens of the world. Given his racial identity and name, he certainly wasn't the kind of president people around the world expected to win the presidency. Traveling in four very different countries on behalf of the State Department last year to talk about the presidential election--Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Brazil and South Africa--most people I met expressed two sentiments: one, that they wanted Obama to win; and two, they were convinced Americans would never elect him.
Now that we have, has global opinion about Obama and the United States changed accordingly? According to a new poll of citizens from 20 countries (including the United States) by World Public Opinion.org, the respective answers are "yes" and "no": Obama is viewed mostly positively, but attitudes toward America generally are not improving much, if at all, in most countries.
Not surprisingly, views about the role the United States plays in the world are generally more favorable in the African and western European countries surveyed. Equally unsurprising is the fact that citizens in Muslim nations view us warily. Among non-Muslim countries in Asia, citizens in South Korean, Taiwan and India view America's role quite favorably, with the Chinese slightly unfavorable overall.
The report summary reads, in part:Asked whether they have confidence in Barack Obama to "do the right thing regarding world affairs," for all nations (excluding the US) an average of 61 percent say they have some or a lot of confidence.
But asked how the US treats their government, few--on average just one in four--say it "treats us fairly," while two-thirds say that it "abuses its greater power to make us do what the US wants." Overall, these views are no better than they were in 2008. Only three countries diverged from this view (Kenya, Nigeria, and Germany).
In all nations polled, majorities say that the US "use(s) the threat of military force to gain advantages." Majorities range from 61 percent in India and Poland to 92 percent in South Korea and include America's close ally Great Britain (83%). On average, across all nations polled, 77 percent perceive the US as threatening. Even 71 percent of Americans agree.
Steven Kull, director of WorldPublicOpinion.org comments, "Most people around the world seem to have a positive view of the young new captain at the helm of the American ship of state, though many people see this huge ship as still carrying forward domineering policies."
Of course, a favorable view of the American president is neither necessary nor sufficient to creating a favorable view of the United States. But it doesn't hurt. And surely Obama cannot be expected to change global opinion in just six months. Considering how much damage George W. Bush did to global attitudes toward the United States, if there's any chance for these numbers to improve, Obama's global popularity is a start.
7.08.2009
Is Obama Improving America's Global Image?
by Tom Schaller @ 5:30 PM
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Tom - Another pathetic post. If you're talking about how America's image is improving (or not) I would suggest you put up a poll before the current one. Otherwise, this poll only supports bloviation.
Oh, I forgot. That's your specialty.
Small wonder only Obama's numbers are up and he is not moving the needle in terms of the perception of America: EVERY CHANCE HE GETS HE TRASHES OUR COUNTRY.
Who can blame the world for not respecting our nation, its culture, its motives and its history when its own leader does not?
petekent01 (on twitter)
Whats stange about these world polls that include countries in east asia (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan et all) is that they conflict with the xenophobia and racism commonly directed against americans in that part of the world.
South Korea for example according to this poll sees the United States more positively than most countries (including all of western europe)....obama has an 80 percent approval rating there...and yet theres so much xenophibia and racism directed against americans there. Many businesses there have "NO AMERICANS" signs there.
If I was Barack Obama I would go to South Korea, have a talk with their president and tell him to pass a civil rights law that makes descrimination based on nationality or race illegal. Same goes with Japan and Taiwan that do that same thing.
Just a thought.
Sorry to be slightly off topic but I think this would make a good topic....not just South Korea or East Asia...but xenophobia/racism in general directed at americans in other countries other than obvious ones (any middle eastern country, north korea, etc.).
Taiwan is not a country. But this proves the neocons wrong.
juvanya...the status of Taiwan being a country or not is debatable.
For more info on "is taiwan a country or not?":
http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/taiwancountry.htm
PK. I'm pretty sure Obama is only speaking of the last ignoramus that ran the country and his idiot staff that acted like little kids that got their first bee bee gun.
But you probably know this already but would rather just keep repeating the garbage the AM radio tells you.
Also, I noticed it would be impossible to come up with "But it doesn't hurt. And surely Obama cannot be expected to change global opinion in just six months." with one poll.
HERE is a PEW poll trend of the Bush years. It pretty much tells the story everyone already knows. Bush destroyed this countries image by acting like a complete idiot.
Thanks again Bush. It seems like every time you turn your head you find another thing Bush touched that turned to shit.
The damage done to the country's image by Bush & Co. will take a long time to undo, even for a great conciliator like President Obama.
Oh, and BTW, please don't feed the trolls. They are only here to derail the discussion.
e3323,
I am very familiar with the history illegal rogue province's shenanigans.
How was the average calculated? Was it weighted according to population sizes or was each country given an equal weight?
If you're going to talk about improvement, you have to compare those figures to previous figures.
Where were they a year ago? Two years ago? Ten years ago?
@ Efrique - Bingo.
This is how Tom Schaller works. He's 538 dot com's Sarah Palin. Truly a moron. I tried to make that point in the first post of this thread, and no one else picked it up till now, although someone else did post a website with all the prior stats.
Tom Schaller would actually have to look at the other stats and compare them, and provide some analysis. He's too lazy to do that. He's just bloviating. As usual.
This week in polling, including Nate and others:
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/extrapolated_outliers.php
Hi,
despite the usual,boring-blind-fool-full of hate,who wrote:
"EVERY CHANCE HE GETS HE TRASHES OUR COUNTRY."...
the answer is :
Yes Sir,affirmative.
Obama joined the G8 here in Italy and He is the,absolutely,ONLY, bright star.
greeting from Italy.
:)
juvanya,
What do you have against Taiwan? Even if they are an "illegal rouge province" Can you blame them for wanting to separate themselves from China?
If you HAD to live in Taiwan or mainland China where would you pick? I think this should be a no brainer.
Oh and before anyone says anything, I am a caucasian american, so im not biased here.
e3323 said...
theres so much xenophibia and racism directed against americans there. Many businesses [in South Korea] have "NO AMERICANS" signs there.
So the actions of one bar (the Hollywood in Itaewon) defines ALL of South Korea?
Why don't you take your lies to some other place (maybe the so-called 'free republic'?) where those lies can be peddled without anyone doing any research and finding they actually are lies (does anyone at the 'free republic even know how to do legitimate research?)?
Mike in Maryland
My Blogger ID is http://www.blogger.com/profile/02848893412251095965
Mike in Maryland,
I am sorry if my comments offended you but I am not telling any lies. All I am doing is telling what I have heard from several people who have lived in south korea.
My friend was an ESL teacher in South Korea for a year. From what he told me the "no americans" signs were in many different businesses, not just one.
I have never lived in South Korea so I am not speaking from personal experience....just from what I have heard from people who have lived there.
In my opionion South Korea should have a civil rights act that does not allow ANY business to discriminate, like what our civil rights act did in 1965.
I respect you as a poster and think you contribute a good bit to this website but if someone posts incorrect information you can correct them without calling them a liar. Perhaps xenophobia and racism is not as big a problem as others have made it out to be. If that is the case, feel free to correct me, but dont call me a liar.
e3323 said...
My friend was an ESL teacher in South Korea for a year.
So, e3323, does your 'friend' post to eslteachersboard.com, and have a girlfriend that he took to a bar, named the Hollywood bar in Itaewon, on her birthday? Is your friend named "Pedram Tabrisian"?
If so, I can find LOTS of Internet fiction that OBAMA WAS BORN IN KENYA, for instance.
And e3323, your 'comments' did not offend me, as that is the type of comments I expect from idiots and TROLLs.
BTW - one of my best friends in high school was Korean. According to him, Koreans, as a whole, discriminate against Japanese because of the actions of Japan against Korea from 1910 through 1945 (although that discrimination by Koreans is not near as much as the Japanese show against Koreans - TO THIS DAY). Other nationalities? No. Individuals? Yes, depending on whether they deserve respect or not by their individual actions.
Besides, the vast majority of South Koreans recognize that if the US military was not in South Korea, there probably would NOT be a South Korea, but those parts that are now called South Korea would be a part of a united Korea under a dictatorship imposed from Pyongyang. A real incentive to show xenophobia against Americans, isn't it?
Mike in Maryland
My Blogger ID is http://www.blogger.com/profile/02848893412251095965
Mike in Maryland said...
And e3323, your 'comments' did not offend me, as that is the type of comments I expect from idiots and TROLLs.
July 9, 2009 3:46 AM
@Mike,
sorry to say but "e3323" is only posting His opinions,NOT trolling,just disagreeing with you on South-korea.
bye.
:)
p.s.
plus :
I don't think "e3323" is an idiot...at all.
:)
wv:knhumme
this must be a south korean word...
juvanya said...
e3323,
I am very familiar with the history illegal rogue province's shenanigans.
So..which rogue province would that be, the United States or Taiwan?
Mike in Maryland,
No, my friend is not the person you described. I am unsure of if he posts (or posted) on that website or not but he is a personal friend of mine I went to high school with. After he graduated from Rutgers and got a BA in Business Administration he signed up to be an ESL teacher in South Korea. Apperently you dont need a degree in education to be an ESL teacher in Korea...any degree will do.
I see no motivation for him to have lied to me. Maybe his experience in South Korea was atypical and xenophobia/racism (at least against americans) is not as big a problem as he made it out to be but his opionion is biased from his bad experience.
I am trying to be polite here and I am admitting to the possibility that I have been misinformed....no need to use ad hominem attacks.
What you SHOULD have said was:
"e3323, I believe you have been misinformed about xenophobia in South Korea. There are many stories of xenophobia in south korea however they are largely exaggerated. The "no americans" signs are not at all common and are limited to only one area of South Korea."
This is 538 and I expect only to see respectful, clean debate...not ad hominem "ur a troll" "NO U" a la 4chan.
Not only does Tom's post provide no answer to his own question on what changes to world opinion have come since Obama's election, but it also contains this:
most people I met expressed two sentiments: one, that they wanted Obama to win; and two, they were convinced Americans would never elect him.
Now that we have, has global opinion about Obama and the United States changed accordingly? According to a new poll of citizens from 20 countries (including the United States) by World Public Opinion.org, the respective answers are "yes" and "no": Obama is viewed mostly positively, but attitudes toward America generally are not improving much, if at all, in most countries.
Given that Obama was popular before and after his election, and the US was unpopular before and after, the respective answers are "no" and "no". Perhaps if Tom wrote in a less convoluted style, he'd be able to correctly answer his own questions.
Also, Mike in Maryland, I do agree with your comments about Japan. From what I have heard they are in fact extremely xenophobic and their racism against the koreans in particular is infamous. Also from what I hear, Japan is also xenophobic against americans because every once in a while an american sailor will rape a japanese woman. Yes, its a horrible crime but thats no reason to be xenophobic against ALL americans. Just like whatever happened over half a century ago is no excuse for ether South Korea OR Japan to be xenophobic against each other.
Like I said...I think both Japan and South Korea need to pass civil rights acts that prohibit this type of discrimination, like our civil right act from 1965. What do you (and everyone else) think of this idea?
The Civil Rights Act of 1965 was passed by the US Congress for a very specific reason, and was for a very internal (to the US) reason.
What you are proposing is extremely similar to the little shrub imposition of democracy on Iraq - whether they want it or not, whether they realize they do (or don't) need it, they're gonna get it.
We can quietly and diplomatically increase the awareness in others of the need for this or that, but to try to force them to enact a law that they, as a society, don't feel necessary and/or don't want for any reason?
That would be similar to the Spanish in Central and South America - "CONVERT, HEATHEN INDIAN, CONVERT! OR BE SLAIN!"
A similar situation would be to tell the Saudis that they should allow all foreign women to act and dress as they do in their homeland, even if it's against the societal and religious mores of the Saudis.
Or that European countries should control their beaches and not allow any nudity on any beach. After all, that's how most beaches in the US are regulated, and how some would wish for ALL beaches, US and worldwide, to be regulated.
If someone wants to see a LOT of 'No Americans" signs in South Korea and/or Japan, go on that crusade to impose YOUR mores and values on some other culture. You'll see the rise of 'The Ugly American' syndrome rise again real quick.
And matador? Thanks, but e3323 actually IS saying that the US needs to impose our values on a foreign culture. e3323 is not saying we should encourage them to change, but we need to forceably impose that change.
To take one or two people's opinions and anecdotal evidence to castigate an entire culture IS idiotic, at least IMO. Anyone can encounter at least one person in any culture who is an A-hole (we run into a lot of them here at 538.com every day, such as the doctor without a medical license, the rider of the offspring of a horse/donkey mating, etc.), and that should show people that we can't take every person's anecdotal 'evidence' as the gospel truth.
And by the way, the Hollywood Bar in Itaewon (the most notorious xenophobic bar in Seoul) is under new ownership, new management, and with a new name (apparently because they offended so many people [native and foreign] they couldn't make a profit), so maybe Korean society is not as xenophobic as e3323 has tried to state to us?
Mike in Maryland
My Blogger ID is http://www.blogger.com/profile/02848893412251095965
Mike in Maryland,
I am not taking one or two people's opinions and saying "all of south korea and japan is racist". Yes, theses assholes and racists everywhere you go. However theres a huge difference between racism and discrimination. IMO no government should allow discrimination.
I also dont think my idea is as unrealistic as you think although I could be wrong. South Korea and Japan are our allies. They both are under our protection and know that if they were attacked by North Korea (a strong possibility with Kim Jong Il's crazy ass) that we would defend them. Therefore they might be inclined to listen.
And I never said we should FORCE them to stop. Force would entail threatening a consequence like cutting off trade or something. All i suggested was a simple talk about this subject.
Barack Obama got Medvedev to agree to reduce nuclear weapsons. Before that happened most would have argued that would be unrealistic. Simple diplomacy can work wonders sometimes.
Well, if nothing else, he's done wonders for our image in Kenya. They're more pro-American than Americans!
Western Europe favorablility has also returned to within a few points of where it was in 2000. I'd say that's a good improvement over Bush, who nearly caused a major rift with 2 of our closest allies.
Having a President that even cares about our global image is a huge leap forward. It's not surprising, other countries don't trust the US as a whole since they know we are still overloaded with right-wing hawks.
Thank you for your efforts. I enjoy reading fivethirtyeight.com every day.
Why is having a president that even cares about our global image a huge leap forward?
US Presidents should not care one hoot what the residents of a foreign country think about us.
US Presidents should not care one hoot what the residents of a foreign country think about us.
Here's a chance to clarify your statement. Do you really believe that the international view on the US has no bearing whatsoever in foreign policy?
Grog my reply was to the subject of the article: "Is Obama Improving America's Global Image?"
I am stating that caring about America's Global Image is a huge leap forward in actually improving that image.
I was not commenting on the "should" or "should not" of a president caring about our image, but I will now. Our president should care about our image and do all he can to improve relations and cooperation, globally. In my opinion.
It shouldn't. Foreign policy should be what's in the best interest of the US, regardless of what Ukraine or Indonesia thinks about us.
Grog I would offer that in many, many cases cooperation and caring about other opinions is in our best interest. As an example let us say you ask your friends what kind of pizza they like and offer to order it for them if they'll come help you move.
If you don't care about what other people think then they normally won't help you and in my experience many of our challenges are just too difficult to surmount without some friendly backing.
I agree with that.
But, when it comes to what you think is right or wrong, you are going to do what you think is right for you and your family regardless of what someone else thinks.
You will take what someone else thinks into consideration, but in the end you do what you think is right even though it may not be popular.
Thank you for the clarification. Thats an interesting viewpoint. While I do agree that international sentiment must not be the sole dominating factor in US foreign policy, I disagree that it should be ignored completely. But rather, properly weighed into the overall foreign policy equation. In the end, international sentiment is a nice card to hold...that can later be played to further (and more smoothly) advance the best interests of the US.
Grog I'm suggesting that doing what you think is right for your family can including cooperating in the best interest of your family.
I would not support cooperation if it was in the best interest of another family (country, etc) but at our expense. That would not be in our own best interest.
GROG,
What another country thinks of us directly impacts trade agreements, alliances among many other things.
For example, if only 10 percent of the chinese viewed the US positively than you better believe that they would stop loaning us money. And i know China isn't loaning us money just to be nice and stand to benefit in the long run from us borrowing money, but that does not mean the China could simply one day say NO.
Anyway I would be very interested to see how positively Cuba sees us and how much of a net change there was since Obama took over.
Obama has eased restrictions....could we see trade relations with Cuba in the semi-near future (during the obama presidency)?
In some ways, I'm glad to see our standing around the world be "rebuilt"; however, I am discouraged by some of Obama's actions and words that seem as if he is pandering to their self-interest at the expense of ours.
Standing up for American interests and ideals is not mutually exclusive to cooperating globally and having friendly relations with other countries.
"Friendships with all, alliances with none."
-Thomas Jefferson
Too often we create artificial divisions, eg between the Muslim world & Africa, when there is huge overlap. You say that "unsurprising is the fact that citizens in Muslim nations view us warily," but Nigeria about majority (or maybe about half) Muslim. Is this not mentioned because it complicates the Islam v West narrative?
"Equal and exact justice to all men, of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political; peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none."
The full line from Jefferson, I think in his inaugural address. Didn't want anyone yelling at me for shortening it up earlier and accuse me of trying to distort the meaning.
If you think your summary matches the meaning and intent of the full quote Ass Rider, you are mistaken as usual.
I haven't been on here in months, and I see that it's the same ol', same ol'.
I post an innocuous quote from Jefferson, make a very uncontroversial statement of my own -
Standing up for American interests and ideals is not mutually exclusive to cooperating globally and having friendly relations with other countries.
- yet I'm lambasted with a denigrating and insulting variation of my name and then blithely told I'm "mistaken as usual."
Well, for one thing, there was no substantitve point of my remark, nothing by which you can measure "right" or "wrong," so it's impossible to be "mistaken." I very calmly stated I'd like to see America's interests defended while maintaining a very peaceful and cooperative relationship with other nations. I merely threw in the Jefferson quote because it seems to reflect what I said as well as anything else, and he very clearly states that it is a good thing to have peace and honesty with all nations but to not get entangled with any of them.
I don't see where that's controversial, and I certainly don't see where it necessitated the angry and insulting tone.
looking at your post and the link to the pbs thing reflecting the years since 2000...all i can conclude is that the damage done since 2000 can't be reversed overnight.
Let me get this right -
There's a bar in South Korea with a "No Americans" sign.
And the name of the bar is "The Hollywood"????
Am I the only one who sees the contradiction here...
Grog -
You will take what someone else thinks into consideration, but in the end you do what you think is right even though it may not be popular.text
I have no problem with that.
However, if you already know what you plan to do, and lyingly pretend to take what others think into "consideration", but then just do what you intended in the first place, that, of course, is pure dishonesty. And a rather stupid trick that people see through very quickly.
beavis,
If you think you're going to bait me into a shouting match with insults and absurd comments of your own, then you are the one who is mistaken.
As I noted yesterday it is a small wonder that Obama is not improving America's image abroad since his road show act is all about HIM and nothing about US (as in US of A). Certain folks have responded by suggesting that Obama's been trashing Bush and not the US in his foreign speeches. But in fact his rhetoric has been far more generic, harkening back at times 50 years, for instance, to blame us for problems in the world (as he did when he reminded the world how the US supposedly staged a coup after WW2 to take out a one Iranian dictator to replace him with the Shah).
Obama is preternaturally disposed to mistrust the US and its motives. So long as his own rhetoric gives cover to such views we cannot expect improvement in terms of America's standing with the world.
One thing though that is certain is that Obama approval ratings are falling off a cliff -- http://tinyurl.com/5tnd2b --
Now both gallup and Rasmussen are reporting his tumbling decline in popularity, which mirrors what we are seeing in Ohio from Pew.
Perhaps the President ought to realize that it's the economy, stupid, and we need jobs more than healthcare or progress on “global warming”!
He won't and he will fail.
petekent01 (on twitter)
PeteKent said...
Now both Gallup and Rasmussen are reporting his tumbling decline in popularity, which mirrors what we are seeing in Ohio from Pew.
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Reagan job approval ...
"Things got worse for Reagan in 1982. The public's view of the economy remained sour, and the president's ratings during 1982 stayed concomitantly low, in the 40% range, ending the year at 41%. The 1982 midterm elections were not good ones for Reagan and for the GOP. The Republicans lost about 25 seats in the House.
Indeed, although 1983 began for Reagan with a 35% job approval rating -- the worst of his administration -- things started to look better.
By 1984, Reagan's job approval ratings were consistently above the 50% line that is a symbolic standard for an incumbent president seeking re-election. In Gallup's last October poll before the November 1984 election, Reagan received a 58% job approval rating, and he went on to soundly defeat Democratic nominee Walter Mondale by a 59% to 41% popular vote margin, receiving 525 electoral votes to Mondale's 13."
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Yea, if the economy doesn't start to improve by say June 2010, the Dem's could lose 10/20 congressional seats in the 2010 mid-terms.
but, but, but, like Reagan, Obama is very likable and the Whig's er Rep's er cheney ~ bush ~ palin ~ cantor ~ boehner ~ sanford ~ perry ~ ensign ~ vitter ~ bachmann ~ sessions ~ gingrich ~ limbo ~ billo ~ hannity ~ coultergeist ~ malkin ~ beck ~ savage etc. etc. have burnt sooo many bridges w/minorities ie hispanics, women, young voters, gays, lesbians etc. w/their bitter, bitter sour grape hate/divisive speech over the last 10/20 years that most voters imo see them as indeed, the party of NO!!! w/no rational alternative to Obama's/Dem's agenda.
As Eugene Robinson said early last year, underestimate Obama at one's own peril. Conservatives still haven't gotten over how a young, relatively inexperienced, bi-racial candidate, whose father was a Muslim from Kenya kicked their ass!!! in the 2012 presidential election. Yes Virginia, Obama has totally discombobulated the party of Lincoln, oh the irony lol.
As Paul Begala said on CNN: If he's a miserable like dubya, we'll re-elect him anyway!
"Look, how 'bout we give him what the American people gave him, a (4) year no-cut contract. And then, if he's a miserable failure at the end of (4) years, we'll do like we did w/Bush and re-elect him anyway!" ;)
Therein lies the Reps problem, if Obama has high approval ratings in 2012, a Dem landslide, if not, Obama still wins 'cause the Reps have no viable alternative ie Palin, Jindal, Huckabee, Sanford, Romney and their current leader Limbaugh lol
Oh the humanity!
take care, blessings
p.s. Wish I had a nickle for every time I read from smug cons/reps at RCP, Politico etc. last year saying Obama had absolutely "no chance" to win the election. hmm
Shiloh,
Reagan is a good comparative to use. He came in after a failed Presidency and inherited a recession that lingered well into his first term.
By the time he was up for re-election, it clearly was "Morning Again in America" and folks did in fact see the rays of sunshine and felt confident re-electing him.
Reagan of course cut taxes and regulation and did everything possible to support private enterprise. Obama is doing the opposite and he seems to be pissing off the people with his obsession with socializing healthcare and dealing with "climate change".
The tale of the tape will be in the economy, particularly in jobs and a sense that we are returning to normal. Those who follow me know that I am dubious of any sort of sustained or dramatic recovery and I think we are likely to bump along the bottom until we get rid of Obama and change course.
petekent01 (on twitter)
Small correction: kicked their ass!!! in the 2008 presidential election, not 2012.
Plus it's nice saying "kicked their ass!!! a second er third time. :)
take care, blessings
GROG (watered down wine?) said...
Why is having a president that even cares about our global image a huge leap forward?
India is the second largest country in the world population wise (the country has an estimated 1.16 billion people).
India possesses nuclear weapons.
Pakistan is one of the largest countries in the world population wise (it is estimated to be about 6th, with about 166,000,000 people).
Pakistan possesses nuclear weapons.
India and Pakistan have been at war with each other on at least three major occasions (1947-48; 1965; and 1971). All three of those wars were before either country possessed the capability to make nuclear weapons.
India and Pakistan are still very belligerent to each other, and war could very easily break out again at any time. The next time, if it does, the temptation to use nuclear weapons might be a bit too much for either or both countries to resist.
If the US has a good reputation in both countries (populace and/or government), it would be easier to discuss the situation with both, and get them to back down.
If the US has a bad reputation in either country (populace and/or government), it will be very difficult to discuss the situation with either or both, and getting them to back down will be extremely difficult.
Why worry about India and Pakistan not liking each other?
Do you think a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan would have zero effect on the US?
If you do, you are even more of an idiot than anyone here at 538.com ever imagined.
Mike in Maryland
My Blogger ID is http://www.blogger.com/profile/02848893412251095965
Two things, firstly certainly in the UK the USA was not universally popular before Bush was elected, I assume that is true in other places as well. It comes down to maybe some envy but a sense of American arrgance as well.
The second point is that there is great value in gaining a level of popularity abroad. Of course you aren't gonna get everyone to love your country, but a more emollient attitude to overseas countries for instance may have lessened the pulling power of Al Qaeda, for example. That doesn't necesarily mean you give in to what other countries want you to do, but its called diplomacy for a reason!
As for 'national interest', whilst not disagreeing that national interest should always be an important consideration, there is a thing called 'international interest', acting on whats best for the whole world, not just your own country. I think for instance its hard to make a case that solely American interests were at stake in Iraq Or in the 2nd World War to give two contrasting examples. What American interests were involved in the Cold War? The point being that foreign policy does sometimes require acting against what might be in the nations short term interests in order to make long term gains.
@PK:
"harkening back at times 50 years, for instance, to blame us for problems in the world (as he did when he reminded the world how the US supposedly staged a coup after WW2 to take out a one Iranian dictator to replace him with the Shah)."
No, the CIA helped overthrow a democratically elected leader (Mossadegh) in Iran in 1953, re-establishing the Shah on Peacock throne. Western oil companies feared that the left-of-center Mossadegh would nationalize Iran's oil, so the CIA stepped in.
That event is the major factor in our inability to influence events in Iran once the Shah's rule crumbled in the 1970's.
That event has required the US to be more restrained in the face of recent events in Iran than would have otherwise been the case.
The overthrow of the democratically elected Mossadegh government ensured that most Iranians would hate our guts once the Shah's rule turned authoritarian. It is why more overt hectoring of Ahmadinejad by the US would have been counterproductive.
Get your history right, PK.
e3323, you can understandably say that South Koreans are xenophobic against Americans based on your friend's shallow experiences in the the country because there was certain antipathy toward U.S. in the past. It was related to Bush's policy, which could have created war in the peninsula. It's so complicated that I can't explain it to you. I, as a South Korean, however, can say that the poll result well represents what people there think about the U.S., and they are not xenophobic at all. There are historic antipathy and tensions among three countries in the East Asia, but this is a completely different matter. I can understand what you think, but your thought on South Korea is grossly exaggerated whatever your intention might be.
Now, now, now, polls_apart, take it a bit easy on poor PK.
PK is just parroting the (mis)information being fed to him (by Lush? by Manthrax? by O'Lielly? we're not sure by whom) that any political system that 'nationalizes' something is tyrannical and a dictatorship.
We can't blame PK entirely that his parents pulled him out of the second grade, never to let him return to school. That's the only explanation I've got for his inability to use reason and logic, and/or to know how to use a search engine to gather facts. After all, most of those concepts are taught starting in the third grade.
Mike in Maryland
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