In favor:
Barack Obama
Lani Guinier
Gerald Torres
Alberto Gonzales
Alan Dershowitz
The American Diabetes Association
Against:
Richard Epstein
Mitt Romney
Mike Huckabee
John Yoo
Greg Mankiw's grandmother
Of all the "againsts," the strongest reaction was from . . . economist Mankiw's grandmother, who would have been "would have been shocked and appalled to see someone who makes so much [$180,000 a year] save so little [only $100,000 in the bank]." From a pure economics standpoint, though, I wonder if Sotomayor is being a rational follower of the lifetime earnings model: with a job for life, full health care, and, as a commenter notes, a pension if she chooses to retire, why save? On the other hand, as a Supreme Court judge, I can't imagine there are lots of ways to spend your extra money, so I expect her bank account will gradually grow in future years.
P.S. Nate goes through Sotomayor's cost of living, but maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. To be fair to Mankiw, it may very well be true that his savers-spenders theory is empirically correct. For Sotomayor, this may indeed be the point, that she is very rationally being a "spender" even though probably many people in similar circumstances elsewhere are "savers." And it might also be true that Mankiw's grandmother "would have been shocked"; after all, she might well have had a simplistic view of economics of the sort that would demand "scrimping and saging" from even a person with a job for life. We often think of depression-era grandmas as being on an extreme point on the spender/saver spectrum, and Grandma Mankiw may be no exception.
So I think the right way of taking Mankiw's remark is as a comment on his grandmother's charming but naive conception of household economics--even in a case of a childless federal judge, she would've missed the point of spending one's money.
I have no comments on the reasoning of Dershowitz, Yoo, and the rest.
5.26.2009
Sotomayor Scorecard on Day 1
by Andrew Gelman @ 8:46 PM...see also supreme court
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I left a history of the progressive consumption tax on Robert Frank's last PCT post. Please feel to read it and inform yourselves if you are so inclined.
P.S. I was delighted at the Sotomayor pick and knew deep in my heart that Obama would make this choice.
P.P.S. Greg Mankiw's grandmother can kiss my big white Polish #$%.
That's Greg Mankiw's mental construct of his grandmother. If the woman were around to speak for herself, she might offer a different opinion.
You missed a big anti -- the head of the Republican Party - Rush Slackjaw. He found her to be a terrible pick. Which means she's a very moderate, intelligent choice.
wv - shine Yup, even word verification is for Sotomayor.
@KCinDC,
I apologize to Greg Mankiw's grandmother (may she RIP). In that case my insult is hurled at Greg Mankiw's mental construct (which makes it all the more satisfying).
FYI, the link for Huckabee actually leads to Romney's statement.
It's hard to get excited about an Alberto Gonzales endorsement, but I won't hold that against Sotomayor. =P And I don't know if Greg Mankiw realizes this, but I would hope that his financially savvy grandmother would recognize the difference between living paycheck-to-paycheck and having somewhere between $50,000 and $115,000 in savings. It's kind of a big one.
Also, isn't the Huckster technically against Maria Sotomayor, should she ever be nominated to SCOTUS?
Also, since federal judges get government pensions, there is less need for an appeals court judge to save for retirement.
I was ready to agree with his Grandmother, but you make an excellent point. I still would save in her position so that one day I could buy a jet ski made out of diamonds, though.
Her finances are none of our business, assuming they are on the up-and-up. Who are any of us to 'judge' her savings? Maybe she has a rich uncle we don't know about. Maybe she keeps her savings in the form of gold bricks under her bad. It's simply not the kind of thing we can have an informed opinion about with such limited information and, again, it's none of our business anyway.
@Phil, totally agree... for all we know she supports a lot of her family or gives to charity or her community.
wv: emalt - what i may have to resort to virtually drinking should the confirmation process get too ridiculous
John Yoo??!?!!!
Is there a decent human being on the planet that would want a recommendation from him?
If he's as smart as he thinks he is, he'll probably avoid travel to Europe for the rest of his life, lest he be jailed for war crimes.
Obama's UNsafe choice, especially on free speech and related issues:
http://socraticgadfly.blogspot.com/2009/05/sotomayor-as-obamas-unsafe-scotus.html
And, for REAL diversity, why not an atheist on SCOTUS? A gay? Even a gay atheist?
http://socraticgadfly.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-about-atheist-on-scotus-gay.html
In the social network of her fellow jurists ... Judge Sotomayor is one of the most socially prestigious...
Check it out over at http://computationallegalstudies.com/
C'mon GOP - let loose on SS - marginalize your party even more! HA HA HA!
ALBERTO GONZALEZ?!?!?! That's interesting.
Interesting that save for a correspondents dead grandmother, there is much political opposition to Sotomayor so far, but little legal opposition, (Noone credible saying she is a bad judge or isn't experienced enough, that level of opposition), whilst there is plenty of legal support as far as I can tell.
And if the Affirmative Action case is the worst they can come up with, then I can't see how Sotomayor will not be confirmed.
I wonder about Huckabee calling her "Maria". Normally I would just assume it was a slip of the tongue or an honest error in memory. (Leave aside for a moment that he drew a conclusion on whether she was qualified without even knowing her well enough to state her name.)
But, OTOH wasn't he a Baptist preacher? Now, I've served on the board at my (admittedly non-Baptist) church; I was even on the ministerial search committee, so I know a thing or two about ministers' qualifications. And as a paid cleric working for a church board, as Mike Huckabee did, you can have shaky knowledge of NT Greek, you can fail to understand the difference between Michael Servetus and Michael Horton, you can even sing hymns in the tune of Roseanne, but if you're not reflexively and brilliantly capable of connecting faces, names and a few biographical details, you will never make it in parish ministry. Both politicians and ministers find this skill absolutely indispensible, and it seems odd to the point of unbelievable that he would make that error.
So what happened? Was there some sub rosa implication to calling her "Maria"? Some dog whistle for the right that I, in my NPR-MSNBC range of experience am just not able to understand? Hmmmm...
Nosimplehiway
I am gonna give Huckabee a pass on that one, as far as the language is concerned. As much as anything just because I think its quite a small thing really. I think as much as anything else it shows just how disconnected with political issues Huckabee really is now he is on Fox. Sotomayor's name has been all over the news for a few weeks, since Souter's decision to stand down, if Huckabee was seriously trying to get a grip of a range of issues he would know the name, but he is more interested right now in pressing right wing buttons and showing his right wing credentials.
If I heard correctly, Huckabee's 'Maria' comment was in a written statement, not given orally. That means a one or two minute (if that) web search would have given him the correct name.
IOW - the Huckster was so eager to get out his comment he didn't care enough to fact check it. He just COULDN'T be the last one to comment, otherwise 'Lush Rimbaugh' might question his 'conservative bona fides', and the Huskster can't risk that if he wants to have any chance of winning the GOOPer Presidential nomination any time in the future.
So how does that reflect on his ability to get any facts aligned? IMO, a lot. If he doesn't care about correctly stating a simple fact such as a person's name, then he's nothing but a fool and a tool. For whom? I'll let you decide for yourself.
Mike in Maryland
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"Of all the 'againsts,' the strongest reaction was from . . . economist Mankiw's grandmother, who would have been 'would have been shocked and appalled to see someone who makes so much [$180,000 a year] save so little [only $100,000 in the bank].'"
The most disappointing aspect of 538 is the fact that you still don't catch mistakes that even the most basic of proofreading would reveal. Even after all this time. Are you all really that lazy? Is there a reason you couldn't be bothered to make your sentences read smoothly Andrew Gelman?
Republicans can’t figure out how to cut holes in their hoods without poking themselves in their eyes.
MORANS abound
What's a "MORAN"? Do you mean "moron"?
I found it telling that a grown women making $180,000 a year has no more financial sophistication than to put her money in a checking/savings account. That's it? No stocks, bonds? No investments at all? Just a checking/savings account, like some teenager?
This suggests to me a level of financial naivete that is a little frightening. Someone like that is going to make "policy", as she puts it, that affects major economic and financial sectors of the economy? God help us.
Maybe it's a more sophisticated choice than it seems on the surface. As a judge in the Southern District of New York (which includes Wall Street) a lot of the places where she could conceivably put her money for higher gains could easily come before her bench. Maybe she just didn't need higher returns and decided to avoid constantly recusing herself everytime somebody slipped in the lobby of a firm where she had investments.
She's not SUPPOSED to buy any stocks and bonds, precisely because of conflict-of-interest concerns. Any money she invests goes into the blind-trust fund that is operated for the judges without them knowing what the fund buys; how much each judge puts into that fund is not publicly disclosed, and therefore Mankiw's assumption that she does not have any investments was baseless.
Argh!! You are all missing the hugely important fact that judges can sock away a percentage of every paycheck into the federal gov't employees' version of a 401k, which is called the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP). Judges do not declare their TSP holdings as financial assets!!!! So, Sotomayor could in fact be investing a significant percentage of her income in stocks and bonds. Doesn't this change everything?
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