5.01.2009

Is Sestak the Right Choice for the Left?

Progressives are right to want a primary opponent for Arlen Specter -- or at least to keep alive the possibility of one. As Chris Bowers notes, Specter has already cast two important votes against his party in his brief tenure as a Democrat, first on mortgage bankruptcy "cramdown" legislation, and then on the budget conference report, where he was joined only by Ben Nelson, Evan Bayh and Robert Byrd joined. Nor has Specter changed his position on the Employee Free Choice Act -- a measure which he had supported in past years but revealed in March that he would attempt to filibuster.

It's very early in Arlen Specter's career as a Democrat, and we will have to see his positioning evolves on other agenda items. Past party-switchers have tended to change their voting patterns in relatively meaningful ways following their conversions. It seems plausible that Specter would be reluctant to change his positions on issues which were already percolating on the Senate's agenda at the time of his party switch, and on which he had already articulated a position, but that he will become more liberal in the coming months.

For the time being, however, progressive Democrats have ample reason to be wary of Specter. Their problem is that Joe Sestak, the PA-7 Congressman who has refused to rule out a primary challenge, might not be any better from the standpoint of progressive policy.

In fact, it's plausible that he could be a bit worse. ProgressivePunch.org ranks Sestak as the 158th most progressive member out of 221 non-freshman Democrats, and notes that he's an order of magnitude or so more conservative than you'd expect of a Congressman from his Democratic-leaning district. Sestak's DW-NOMINATE score in the 110th Congress was -.287 on a scale that runs from -1 for extremely liberal to 0 for moderate; this is actually slightly more conservative than the score that we'd projected for Specter, which was -.303. The National Journal, moreover, found that Sestak took the liberal position only 63 percent of the time in the votes they tracked in 2007.

Nor would a primary challenge be without its downsides. For one thing, Sestak would have to give up his seat in the House in order to challenge Specter. Although the Democrat would still be favored in an open seat race in PA-7, which is 3 points more Democratic than the nation as a whole, giving up the incumbency advantage might reduce their odds of retaining the seat from, say, 95 percent to 75 percent.

There is also the possibility that Sestak would be more likely than Specter to lose to a Republican in November. I don't think this is a particularly strong worry for Democrats in this instance, since (1) Sestak is a charismatic and talented politician, (2) Sestak is a good fundraiser and (3) the probable Republican nominee -- Pat Toomey -- is much too conservative for Pennsylvania's electorate. Then again, it's precisely the fact that the Republicans seem inclined to nominate Toomey -- who may be borderline unelectable in November 2010 -- that raises the opportunity cost to progressives of nominating a moderate, whether it be Sestak or Specter.

Two other points to bear in mind, one of which makes a primary challenge more attractive for Democrats and the other of which has ambiguous effects. The first point is that the mere prospect of a credible primary challenge (and Sestak is a credible opponent) may have some "bluff" value, whether or not it actually succeeds and in fact whether or not it is actually executed upon. So long as Specter has reason to fear a primary challenge, it will push him toward the median of the Democratic electorate in Pennsylvania, which is probably about at the point occupied by Bob Casey Jr. (DW-NOMINATE score of -.401).

The second point is that Specter is 79 years old. Moreover, however exceptionally admirable his commitment to public service while undergoing chemotherapy for Hodgkin's lymphoma, he is not in the best of health. There is a fairly significant chance that he would not be able to complete his sixth term.

If Specter's term were to end early, then Pennsylvania's governor would pick a replacement, with a special election to follow at the next even-numbered November election. As Democratic incumbent Ed Rendell is term-limited, the governorship will be an open seat race, in which Democrats are probably favored but perhaps not overwhelmingly. Would Democrats prefer the safety of being "locked in" to Sestak for the next decade or two? Or would the they take the gamble a special election would represent as an opportunity to nominate and elect a more liberal candidate -- particularly if they had retained the governor's mansion?

What's clear is that a lot of these questions would be easier to resolve if Democrats were to select a more liberal primary challenger than Sestak. This is perhaps easier said than done, since the Democrats in Pennsylvania's congressional delegation tend to be quite conservative, and since many of the more prominent statewide officeholders are liable to run for governor instead. One intriguing possibility might be Franco Harris, the former Pittsburgh Steelers star who was an Obama delegate at the 2008 Democratic National Convention, and whose name recognition might allow him to be competitive on a relatively limited budget.

59 comments

Tokar said...

Good post. I was hoping someone would write about the 2010 DEM primary prospects. I wonder if Joe Torsella is any more progressive than Sestak as Torsella has already officially announced his candidacy for the 2010 race (although this was before Specter changed and rumors of Rendell clearing the DEM field).

Charles said...

almost a year and I am actually....First?

Charles said...

...damn

Joe said...

I don't know if he will or will not run, or if he is or is not more suitable to PA Dems. BUT: His shear ability to go from Saturday morning kids' TV ("The Land of the Lost") to elected office is impressive!

capt said...

"It's very early in Arlen Specter's career as a Democrat"

Maybe very late in his career as a Democrat - javing left the party in 1965 (I think) he has returned but his shelf life is all but spent.

The switch was a last ditch effort to stay in office. There is a chance it will work.

clarkejeffrey said...

Franco Harris would be interesting if the Republicans chose to nominate Lynn Swann again.

Maybe they could get Terry Bradshaw to moderate the debate....

Rhaomi said...

"...where he was joined only by Ben Nelson, Evan Bayh and Robert Byrd joined."

bugstomper said...

"ProgressivePunch.org ranks Sestak as the 158th most progressive member out of 221 non-freshman Democrats"

That's a typo. Should say 158th least progressive.

Quadrivium said...

Going back to the election of 1946, the Pennsylvania governorship has changed parties every eight years:

1946 (R)
1954 (D)
1962 (R)
1970 (D)
1978 (R)
1986 (D)
1994 (R)
2002 (D)
2010 ...

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arieswym said...

Any thoughts on the progressive qualifications of Joe Torsella, the already declared Dem candidate in the Senate race?

PorridgeGun said...

The way I see it, Pennsylvannia's two senators should be Bob Casey and Ed Rendell. I'm glad the Dems got this seat 2 years earlier than they'd hoped, albeit with a disineguous weasal, but this should be Rendell's seat.

Also, without Clinton, Biden or Kennedy in there, Dems need more heavyweights in the senate. Rendell, despite his concern trolling, certainly fits that description.

Quixote said...

Not a typo, bugstomper. He's the 158th most progressive on that list; there are 157 who are more progressive than he is according to that formula.

justsomeguy, if PA voters are on average further to the left than Specter is, as Nate suggested, then how is a challenge from his left setting up a death spiral? The GOP problem is that they find themselves with too small a tent and too far to the right of the voters, and for some reason try to solve that by tacking to the right and purging their moderates. If the idea that the Republicans aren't right-wing enough wasn't delusional, then this wouldn't be a death spiral for them.

PorridgeGun said...

Of course, I know Rendell would never primary Specter. The job of Dems and activists is to put Specter under enough pressure to push him to the left.

Crisitunity said...

Small technical point... a National Journal liberal score of 63 doesn't mean that he votes with the Democratic Party only 63% of the time. It means he's in the 63rd percentile in terms of voting liberally. A Progressive Punch score, or CQ Party Unity score, would be able to tell you the actual percentage of the time he votes the way we want. (DW-Nominate scores, like you use, are as far as I'm concerned the best indicator of a voting record, but they're completely opaque to someone who isn't familiar with reading them.)

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justsomeguy said...

Quixote-

Taking on Specter in the primary, particularly if it is supported in any way by the PA or national dems, is the beginning of a death as:

1) It sets up Specter to lose in the general, and it makes clear to Snowe and other moderate repubs that they are not welcome; and

2) It makes the point to voters that we just talk about a big tent, and we are really just a bunch of liberal nuts as bad as the conservative nuts on the other side. Agree with us on all points, or we kill you.

Paul William Tenny said...

Geez Nate, you're as depressing as Krugman these days.

justsomeguy said...

Snowe is moving our way, lets not follow Nate and completely screw this up:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/28/snowe-gop-has-abandoned-p_n_192368.html

Dan said...

Nate, I love you but you're very, very wrong. The 7th District is far more Republican than you give it credit for. Although it votes Democratic for President, and supported Ed Rendell (who was insanely popular in the burbs) and Bob Casey (because Santorum was insanely unpopular in the burbs), it's actually a mostly conservative district. Although it's changing, both through demographics and the slow loss of power of its Republican machine, it's still a Republican stronghold. If Sestak left, it would almost certainly go Republican.

And they may have changed the law, but as recently as 1991 the process of replacing a US Senator was gubenatorial appointment, special election at the nearest possible opportunity.

Other than those two small details, great analysis! Thanks!

Quixote said...

justsomeguy:

1) It's certainly not setting Specter up to lose the general if he loses the primary. And I think unlikely even if he does, as any probable Dem nominee is likely to be more acceptable than this Republican.

You have a point about the message to other potential party-jumping pols, but I'm not sure there are enough likely examples for that to be significant. Also, those who can claim that they've switched for ideological reasons rather than pure electoral mathematics could probably expect a different reception anyway. I doubt that Snowe in particular would have any problem.

2) Healthy competition for nominations within a party, particularly if the frontrunner could fairly be tagged as an opportunistic johnny-come-lately, and particularly if the challenger appears to better reflect the political views of the voters, is not "agree or we kill you". And there are plenty of conservative Democrats out there who are under no such pressure from the left, because their constituents and likely challengers are even more conservative.

I have no opinion on the PA race. But if you're a party claiming to have a "big tent", that doesn't require rubber-stamp nominating whatever piece of flotsam you have handy, even if it's incumbent flotsam. You're still justified in using the primary process in an attempt to choose from multiple options the candidate who can best represent the party and his or her constituency.

The "liberal/conservative nut" problem only arises when you are trying to primary out the guy with substantially more appeal to the electorate as a whole, just because he doesn't uphold all the far left/right views of your party faithful. I don't think that's the case with the sort of PA Democratic primary that Nate is contemplating.

Quixote said...

P,ardon typo/confusion in my first paragraph above. I meant that Specter won't lose in the general if he has already lost in the primary, and in any case he or the Dem who defeats him would seem likely to have an edge over the Republican candidate.

Steph said...

Nate,
I enjoy your analysis, but I think that there is an inconsistency between your criticisms of Specter and your description of the Republican "death spiral." Why is okay for the Democrats to purge their moderates (Specter) when the Republicans purging their moderates (Specter again) is symptomatic of the dissolution of their coalition. Is it just because Democrats are in a solid position numerically?

Matt said...

justsomeguy: Hardly. If Nate were saying some incredibly liberal person who had no chance of winning were the better candidate, then you might have a point. However, there's nothing wrong with advocating someone further from the center, as long as he has a fair chance of winning and isn't going to alienate people nationwide.

Dan Nosowitz said...

Gotta agree with the other guy named Dan. I grew up in the Pennsylvania 7th and it's definitely more Republican than you give it credit for (which is why Joe Sestak got elected: He's a war veteran and moderate Democrat. In other words, a Republican's Democrat.). It's not socially conservative, but this is an extremely affluent area (Google the Pennslyvania Main Line for more info) and tends to be very economically conservative.

Sestak's well-liked, but without him, I think a strong, moderate Republican wouldn't have the toughest time winning the PA 7th.

And speaking as a liberal Pennsylvania voter, Specter and Sestak are a toss-up for me. They'll both do some things I like and some I don't, and both are pretty good representatives of the state.

Either will crush Pat Toomey, obviously.

nkpolitics1279 said...

Sestak (PA-7) and Murphy (PA-8) were the two Philadelphia Metro Area US Congressman's elected in 2006 unseating Republican Incumbents.

Sestak (PA-7)unseated Curt Weldon- the 9-11 conspiracy theorist nut who was involved in a lobby scandal. Sestak won by a 56-44 margin. Weldon held onto PA-7 for 10 terms 1986-2006. Before Weldon is Democratic Rep Bob Edgar- currently the President of Common Cause- who formerly headed the National Council of Churches held on to that district for 6 terms 1974-1986. He gave up that seat to run against Arlen Specter in 1986.

Murphy- PA-8 unseated Mike Fitzpatrick- a Moderate Republican Freshman by a narrow margin. Before Fitzpatrick- PA-8 was held by Moderate Republican James Greenwood for 6 terms 1992-2004. Before Greenwood- It was held by Democrat Peter Kostmayer.

Allyson Schwartz (PA-13). was a swing District during the 1990's
Marjorie Margolis Mezensky held on to that district from 1992-1994- She lost in the 94 GOP revolution to Republican Jon Fox. Fox held on to PA-13 1994-1998- Fox lost in 1998 to Democrat Joe Hoffell. In 2002- PA-13(Hoffell's district) was combined with former Democratic Congressman Bob Borski's(PA-3)Philidephia District. Borski retired. Hoefell gave up PA-13 in 2004 to run for US Senate against Arlen Specter. Allyson Schwartz won that seat 2004 an held on to that seat ever since.

rylock. said...

Somebody needs to post about Sestak's record as a more conservative Democrat!

Everything I find on him screams progressive. And the rating of his on progressivepunch.org that I see is a 93%!

What the hell? Are there two Joe Sestaks?

dre7861 said...

justsomeguy said...
Nate-

If moderate dems are not far enough left for you, aren't you just setting up a future "death sprial" for the democratic party, kinda like the one you celebrated for the republicans? What is your litmus test? Gay marriage? EFCA?

I want a big tent democratic party, and I welcome Arlen Specter because I knopw that if the dems run things they will slowly move in my direction, but if they move too quickly we might well end up with another debacle like Iraq, just this time on the left. Cap-and-trade done wrong could kill the economy, healthcare screwed up could be worse than we have now...

Moderation in all things...even politics.

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I agree - the problem the GOP has is they can't stand anyone who doesn't think like they do. It's part of their inate need to follow authority. It's what makes Republicans Republicans. Whereas Democrats for the most part question authority and want to consider other people's points of view. The anti-authoritarian streak is what makes Democrats who they are. I'm (unfortunately0 old enough to remember when the Democrats began to loose power and that was when they began to adhere dogmatically to the most liberal of the party and wouldn't budge or compromise. Even though when Nate posted that 'How Progressive Are You' test and I scored 'An Extremely Progressive' I still believe in small steps. That's why Obama thrilled me so much because I could see in his writings and speeches that need for moderation even though the goal is far from it.

And having said all that Spectre really ticked me off today with his vote. I want to welcome him to the Democratic Party but if I lived in PA I would have to think twice about voting for him. But the reality is President Obama, Vice Presdient Biden and Ed Rendell promised Spectre they would campaign for him. Neither of them can change their minds down the line without looking incredibly bad. With that as a given there is no way Sestak is going to win the nomination. He must be staying in the fight to get something out of it, like maybe the Governship, which chronologically makes more sense for him.

Quixote said...

@rylock

Nate links to a table on progressivepunch.org which ranks reps by their "crucial votes %" rather than their overall score. Sestak is #158 at 72.7% on that measure. These are votes where the "progressive" victory or defeat was narrow and a few votes more or less would have made the difference.

For what it's worth, the National Journal info shows him a bit more liberal on economic issues than on foreign policy, with social issues in between.

@Steph

Like justsomeguy, you're drawing a false equivalence between two different scenarios.

What Nate is contemplating isn't that Specter may be too MODERATE for the PA Democratic party faithful, leading them to nominate a more extreme candidate who alienates moderates and is less likely to win the general election (as in the GOP "death spiral").

It is that Specter may be positioned too far to the RIGHT, leaving room on his left for a more progressive candidate who would nonetheless be perfectly viable in the general and probably about as moderate as Specter in local terms.

Harry said...

Yeah, some body already pointed this out before, but don't count on a Democrat as governor of Pennsylvania in 2011. We Pennsylvanians always flip flop between the parties every 8 years. It seems to be a rule at this point to do so.

Sing4Peace said...

I am a former Sestak donor. We parted company when he voted for telecom immunity and I don't think a progressive would have cast such a vote.

EmonOkari said...

Is Specter in the Democratic Caucus more about Biden helping his long-time 'buddy' than anything else? Is this just good-ol-boy politics at work? Of course, good-ol-boy politics that have the plus of make R's 'look bad' in perception (even though as-of-yet meaningless in actual 'votes').

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capt said...

Changing the letter after his name changes nothing if Spector continues to vote as he has.

When he changes his position to reflect the letter after his name he will be viable - if not he is just a failed D and R.

IMO

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jonathan said...

Is Franco Harris really substantially more liberal than Sestak is?

Football players, like professional baseballers, tend to be shockingly right wing as a group, I thought.

Note that Heath Schuller was one of the few dems to vote against the stimulus package in the house, for example)

Michael said...

Specter is 80 years old and a cancer survivor. At what point are we allowed to believe that the Republic will stand even if this particular polical whore retires and collects his multi-million dollar government retirement benefits?

Nate, Specter's one big claim to fame is that he's been able to put together a coalition of liberals, labor and AIPAC who overlook his random support when it really doesn't matter.

Arlen really aint that popular. He will lose in a head-to-head primary with another democrat.

Who cares what Collins and Snowe think? They aren't bolting.

moondancer said...

Another concern for Pa dems is, assuming Specter is elected, how likely he would have to step down because of health. The Governors seat is no lock for the Dems, and Specters replacement could be filled by a gooper.
Unlike many of the party stalwarts here in the Keystone State, I view Specter as a lose/lose. We fill the seat with someone we dont want, and we make it vulnerable to takeover by the GOP when they could never win it in an election.

Cugel said...

Unfortunately, all of this is academic. If Obama and Biden campaign for Specter it's all over. He'll win the primary.

Of course, he'll have to avoid totally pissing every Democrat off over the next two years and he's not off to a great start so far, but there are a lot of moderate to conservative Dems in PA and he'll have their support.

Plus, the media will slobber all over his "bi-partisanship" which I HATE but they love.

If Specter is going to be replaced, then it ought to be with somebody a lot more progressive than Sestak.

That should be Ed Rendell's seat.

J.R. said...

I campaigned for Obama in Sestak's district, and distributed literature for him. His career impressed the hell out of me, and I think I would probably travel to Philly to campaign for him in 2010 if he runs for the House again.

Anyway, I wanted to share with your readers a little ground truth about Sestak's district. It's a very funny mix: the Main Line (a Philly suburb) is a very very wealthy suburb that felt safely blue. Further out, though, his district includes several large defense contractors near King of Prussia; their employees presumably vote more to the right and appreciate a strong-on-defense candidate.

Sestak was a two-star Admiral and commanded a carrier group; his military bona fides protect him from Republican challengers, while giving him a free hand to vote his conscience on civil liberties (libertarian), entitlements (fiscally conservative but with an eye for social justice), and other issues.

I think he would be wise to wait - he can do more good voting for his constituents' interests in the House than he can by eliminating Specter's seniority in the Senate, and with his resume and voting history he can hold that House seat indefinitely. If Sestak challenged for the primary, a third (hard-left) candidate could take advantage of the split moderate vote and walk away with the nomination, only to be paired up against a wingnut from the other side in the 2010 general. Demographics show a Democrat likely to win, but without Obama coattails to ride, I don't know if the moderate suburbanites in PA will turn out for a hard-left liberal unless the alternative is Rick Santorum.

Colby said...

The "bluff" factor really is key. The point isn't necessarily to beat Specter (though that wouldn't be awful if we did), it's to push him to the left. A left-leaning Specter is fine, we can live with that. A moderate-to-right Specter is ridiculous, though, in a state Obama carried by 9 points.

A more interesting question is this: what kind of candidate is BEST to push Specter to the left? Yesterday, I thought it was a lefty-candidate because Specter would move left to take the wind out of their sails (like he was doing with Toomey). But then I got to thinking maybe he'd just completely occupy the middle, paint the lefty as an extremist, and use all those new Dems in the Primary to bring it home.

On the other hand, a moderate candidate might make Specter move to the left to ingratiate himself with the base AND to get some breathing room. But I'm not sure a moderate would find any room against Specter. And even if the candidate did, Specter may move MORE moderate, again, to take the wind out of him.

So I dunno. Thoughts?

Jim in PA said...

For those folks worried about the D party looking too ideologically rigid if they remove Specter in the primary, you didn't have a problem with voting him out of office a week ago, did you? The letter in front of his name shouldn't matter. What should matter is how he votes. If he votes more like a Bob Casey, then yes, he should be supported. But if he continues to vote like he did when he had an R in front of his name, then PA Dems shouldn't hesitate to back a more liberal candidate (regardless of what Obama and Rendell say).

I find it hard to believe that Obama would pledge to back Specter in the primary without getting a pledge in return from Specter to vote more with the Dems (maybe 60/40 now instead of 40/60). Or at least more votes for cloture. What's the point in backing him if he continues to side with the R's most of the time?

I'm still not sure if this defection is good for the Dem party in the long term. So much talk has focused on the D's getting to 60 seats and ramming their "far left agenda" down the country's throat. That's a great talking point for R's to energize their base and try to convince swing voters that the D's have too much power. Once Franken gets seated, the R's will be able to take this rhetoric even further (though at least Franken should be a reliable D vote).

Sing4Peace said...

Responding to justsomeguy: I agree with you. Snowe is the Senator that I want to get into the DEM column.
Specter is making the shift for himself, not for the country or the DEM party.

Sing4Peace said...

I don't know about Franco Harris, hoping FiveThirtyEight will tell me more about him.

Sing4Peace said...

I agree with moondancer. Tell us about progressive Dems in PA who can beat Specter. Would love to have Rendell, but there must be more. Mayor of Philly?

The only reason to support Specter is to have his vote on health care, especially if we can get a public (if not a single payor) plan. Then I wonder if he will resign before his term is up.

Sing4Peace said...

Rendell is the one, so right on Cugel!

Sing4Peace said...

To Colby: Sestak is talking in interviews like he's the one to push Specter to the left. I think he's a lot like Specter. Remember, he was a Hillary backer until the end.

Sing4Peace said...

Jim in PA: I don't think Specter is about to change. I see that Nate predicts he will be more progressive, but
I can't believe it.

loner said...

The Democrats have won most of the close races for two legislative cycles and the win in NY-20 and Sprecter's defection (the timing of which was more important than any vote he's likely to cast in the short term) provide momentum (important in fund raising and volunteer participation) heading into another. If he's a dependable vote for Cloture, he'll have done more than enough to merit whatever support he gets from the Democratic Party.

Specter, like Lieberman and many others before him, wants to be in the Senate for another term. The ballot access rules and the trends in party identification in Pennsylvania were working against him so he did what he needed to do to get what he wanted. Given that, I have to think he'll continue to do what he thinks he needs to do until he has those six more years.

With regard to the Governorship of Pennsylvania, there is some question as to whether Pennsylvania is still a swing state and that may have some effect next year. PA-7 is +3D because of how it voted for Kerry and Obama. PA-7, like NY-20, was apportioned to be a Republican district during this decade. Some things have changed in Pennsylvania.

Pragmatus said...

Call me a skeptic, but I have a feeling Father Time is going to insert his presence in Specter's seat and once again turn things over. Specter is 80, and in his press appearances over the past week he looked very sick.

Rememeber what happened to Fritz Mondale when he was named the Democratic candidate for MN senate after Paul Wellstone was killed in a plane crash? Norm Coleman, a virtual nobody (and on a fast track back to that place) beat him.

Did Mondale lose because people didn't like him or felt his message was out of whack? No. They rejected him primarily because they felt his time in the limelight was over.

I have a hunch the same outcome is waiting for Arlen Specter. My only hope is that he (or the Democratic Party machinery) realizes it before the 2010 election season really gets underway.

Pragmatus said...

Well, that sure came out wrong. Father Time would of course be inserting a finger in Specter's race rather than his seat.

newyorker2874999 said...

Sestak is extremely ambitious, and if a channel to power cannot be cut for him into the senate, no one should be surprised if at some point he teams up with Mike Bloomberg and possibly even Hillary, as co-founders of a centrist third party.

Especially now that the GOP has chosen to refine itself down to a miniscule, albeit highly radioactive isotope.

John said...

Why shouldn't Sestak be one of the less progressive Democrats? his district is surely one of the less progressive Democrat discticts - only D+3. It's not a safe Democratic district, and Republicans need to desperately find a way to compete in the Philly suburbs again. If anything, Sestak is a little too liberal for that district, and considering his background (Catholic schooling, military) he by all accounts should be a conservative Republican. I have a feeling he's more conservative than he votes.

Margaret said...

As a PA Dem, I can tell you that our state is essentially a centrist state - centrist Dem and centrist GOP. Right now, Specter has relatively good support among Democrats and disaffected Republicans (of which there are many). He is respected here. He will need to start supporting the President on major legislation to keep his Dem voters, so the pressure is on.

David Grenier said...

I'd like to see Franco Harris run and win just so every newspaper can call it "The Immaculate Election."

nkpolitics1279 said...

Joe Torsella should be the leading progressive insurgent candidate to challenge or unseat Arlen Specter. Sestak and Murphy represent swing districts which Republicans stand a chance of picking up. Torsella is a political outsider, he has money and is progressive.

Jimmy the Saint said...

nkpolitics1279:
Torsella isn't a political outsider. He is friends with Clinton and Rendell(Two DLC'ers). How do you know where, exactly, Torsella stands on any issue?

Dangerous said...

Having lived in PA-7 for nearly 25 years, I affirmative counter Mr. Silver's contention that the district is "Democratic leaning". It isn't.

PA-7 has for many years covered most of Delaware County, with small sections of neighboring counties in suburban Philadelphia. For the past 30 years, the entirely at-large Delaware County Council hasn't had a single Democrat election. The GOP has controlled it entirely and rules with an iron fist, rewarding contributors and ignoring anyone who is a registered Democrat. For twenty years prior to Rep. Sestak winning the district, VERY conservative Kurt Weldon won the district by wide margins cycle after cycle. It was only a combination of factors, including scandals, that brought him down. That's hardly a hallmark of a "Democractic-leaning" district.

Democrats in presidential elections tend to do better than Dems in House or Senate races in the district. But this is not due to Dem-leaning bias, although I understand why Mr. Silver's statistics indicate it. It is only because many registered Republicans in the area vote for the Democrat for president, because they are socially liberal but fiscally conservative. That's typical of suburban Philadelphia.

What makes PA-7 so unusual is that communities one would expect to lean Democratic are, in fact, solid Republican and more conservative than the more affluent suburban areas. In that regard, Rep. Sestak is accurately reflecting the political tendencies of his constituents, just as Arlen Spector does.

Voters in PA-7 don't like idealogues, although on balance they are more tolerant of right-leaning blowhards than left-leaning ones. This is due to the (negative) influence of Philadelphia proper and its politics. However, politicians like Mayor Michael Nutter are well regarded throughout the area for competence and calmness, just like President Obama.

My personal expectation is that Rep. Sestak will not seek the Senate seat. He would be better served to remain in the House, where he could ascend to Majority Leader or, eventually, Speaker.

veterans said...

Joe Sestak was my admiral when I was in the United States Navy and of course my view of him might be biased. In any event, Joe is the type of leader that not only Pennsylvania needs but America as well. He is not solely interested in party interests rather he seeks what is best for the people.

As my admiral he was the most effective leader our battle group could have had and led us through both 9/11 and our tour in Afghanistan. Since his retirement and successful endeavor into Congress he has stayed in touch with me and still provides nuggets of wisdom and guidance.