“Humanity is sitting on a ticking time bomb.”
So begins the about-the-film section of the website for Al Gore’s 2006 Academy Award winning documentary, “An Inconvenient Truth.” The description continues with these ominous words: “If the vast majority of the world’s scientists are right, we have just ten years to avert a major catastrophe that could send our entire planet into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods, droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have ever experienced.”
But as Mr. Gore explains in the film itself, there is hope. By taking prompt action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, we can escape disaster.
Many have rebuked the former vice president for failing to heed his own message. For example, his 10,000-square-foot Nashville mansion used 221,000 kWh of electricity in 2006, more than 20 times the American household average.
In response, Mr. Gore’s spokesmen say he has recently installed solar panels and has purchased more than enough “carbon offsets” to make the house’s carbon footprint negative. That is, he has paid one of the dozens of companies around the world that specialize in helping people neutralize the environmental impact of their consumption by replanting forests, say, or by investing in renewable energy sources.
From the beginning, critics have lampooned carbon offsets, likening them to an obese person paying others to lose weight for him. Others complain that offsets allow rich consumers to pollute with impunity while posing as friends of the earth. To dramatize its claim that offsets are a moral travesty, one group has even created a web site that promotes the opportunity to enjoy guilt-free extramarital affairs by paying third parties not to commit infidelities they otherwise would have.
The fact that offsets have been such a ripe target suggests that Mr. Gore may have compromised his advocacy for greenhouse gas reduction by building such a large house. He could have built a smaller one, after all, and used the money he saved to buy even more carbon offsets.
Yet carbon offsets make more sense than critics think.
Among the myriad ways in which problems like obesity are different from global warming, one in particular is economically salient. Whereas the damage caused by obesity is specific to each overweight person, the damage caused by global warming depends only on the total emissions of greenhouse gases. Paying someone else to lose weight does nothing to improve an obese person’s health. In contrast, a reduction in total CO2 emissions, no matter where it comes from, helps reduce global warming.
The question of which appliance to choose is a case in point. Suppose you live in a northern city with normally mild summers and are considering buying a bedroom air conditioner to ease you through the occasional brutal heat wave. Your choices are between a highly efficient model that sells for $500 and a less efficient one that sells for only $300. Because you’re concerned about global warming, you feel obligated to buy the more efficient model. But because you use your air-conditioner so infrequently, buying that model won’t actually help much. You’d do much more to curb global warming if you bought the cheaper model and used the money you saved to buy carbon offsets.
By themselves, they cannot solve the problem of global warming. For that we need sterner measures, such as carbon taxes or cap and trade. But offsets can help. They should be part of the mix.
5.31.2009
Carbon Offsets: Better than Critics Think?
by Robert Frank @ 1:45 PM...see also cap and trade, carbon offsets, carbon taxes, global warming
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Ummm, can we make this site about facts and analysis and post-hoc backward analysis that only comes to conclusions that writer is trying to sell to the rest of us?
Offset all you want, the BRIC countries will create more carbon than the developed countries can offset, and the models are wrong both in their apololyptic scenarios and timelines in any case.
The sun was and still is the most important piece of any warming cycle, and it is on the wane while at the same time we are not anywhere near any temperature extreme in any geologic sense.
I'm not convinced by the science of carbon offsets. For instance some forests produce large amounts of methane due to rotting material. This is an example of natural green house production and the forest itself my work to offset it in other ways and achieve ecological homeostasis.
But the math of figuring out how much a forest can help control man-made greenhouse gas doesn't seem very clear at all.
Similarly investing in a wind farm: are we just increasing electricity production and aiding in increased electricity demand, or are we actually replacing a coal plant? Kind of hard to figure out.
The biggest problem with the offsets is corruption. How do you know the guys in Indonesia are really planting the trees and will keep it for next 50 years ? Or that they are not selling the tree "offset" to multiple people ?
BTW, I think it is ok for individuals - like Gore - to buy offsets. Just like we give to charity in the developing countries - hopefully some of it will actually be useful.
But offsetting as a macroeconomic means of GHG reduction just isn't reliable enough.
I prefer carbon tax anyday than cr*p and trade that doesn't work. It has not worked in EU - why do we think it will work here ?
Wasn't Prof. Frank the economist who suggested here recently that the government subsidize purchase of replacement cars, and the subsidy would stimulate the economy so much that the government's cost would be paid back? If so, why doesn't Prof. Frank simply advocate the government buy all the carbon off sets, too?
I agree with the other posters that this is becoming a political advocacy site rather than a site about statistics, even though I do believe in the dangers of human-caused global warming.
Time for this post to hit the bottom of the bin. Terrible.
It might be possible to make carbon offsets useful someday, but today the lack of standards and science in some areas makes them highly questionable.
The argument against Al Gore was a stupid one anyway. If anything, Al Gore having a big house is proof that we need government intervention to reduce CO2 production, since people will not spontaneously do it.
Seems like the best option for our intrepid environmentalist would be to give someone in Texas $200 o he could buy the $500 model instead of the $300 one.
Or maybe try to convince the Texan to move north, where using the $300 one would probably use less energy than using the $500 one in Texas. Though then there'd be heating to worry about...
From the beginning, critics have lampooned carbon offsets, likening them to an obese person paying others to lose weight for him.
If the goal is to reduce the average weight this will work provided tubby doesn't gain more to offset those he paid to lose weight.
Others complain that offsets allow rich consumers to pollute with impunity while posing as friends of the earth.
This is one of the few valid arguments against it.
To dramatize its claim that offsets are a moral travesty, one group has even created a web site that promotes the opportunity to enjoy guilt-free extramarital affairs by paying third parties not to commit infidelities they otherwise would have.
This just shows how devoid the group is of intellectual reasoning.
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Personally, I think a combination of strict pollution caps with severe penalties for going over it and selling offsets is the best answer.
Corporations act only its is narrow view. Most will do anything to make a nickel today, even if it costs a dime tomorrow, or kills them. Such evil and shortsighted people need to be kept on an extremely short leash.
Of course, to work this needs to be implemented and evenly enforced worldwide, which is not likely to happen.
Then again, we humans richly deserve everything coming. I think it is clear that we are not intelligent enough to survive long term.
justsomeguy,
Seems I've heard of an old saying about these types of situations.
Oh yeah!
"Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way."
If the US, Japan, Britain, Germany, or some other country doesn't lead and PROVE that lowering the carbon footprint CAN be done, and done without hurting the economy (and just maybe helping it A LOT), then the developing countries will have no incentive to do so.
It will take someone to lead, and the others will then be encouraged to follow.
And don't forget that China has a very ingrained cultural stigma about not shaming the family, community and culture. If the US or some other country leads and succeeds, China will be shamed into following.
Mike in Maryland
My Blogger ID is http://www.blogger.com/profile/02848893412251095965
Offsets are fine, if and only if they remove carbon from the atmosphere that would not otherwise be removed. The most important argument against offsets has nothing to do with moral failings. It's that current offset programs lack transparency and often lack proof that they remove as much carbon that they claim to remove. Without such proof, how do we know that offsets are worth the money? An argument in favor of offsets really needs to address this point, not scold Gore's irrational critics.
Matt @ 3:24 is exactly right in his assessment, and either a carbon tax or a cap and trade system with or without offsets (and with permits either given away or auctioned off) will likely result in exactly that outcome.
While the two general strategies have some advantages and disadvantages compared with one another, both provide strong incentives for energy users to limit their carbon emissions in the most efficient way possible.
I agree with Nataraj that selling of carbon offsets is very susceptible to corruption. I have an image in mind from the 2008 Italiam film Gomorrah, in which the mafia gang has agreed to cart off hazardous waste but is, of course, putting it into unregulated dumps (or ones in which the officials have been bribed to look the other way.
Selling offsets abroad is of dubious credibility, with virtually no ability to control the process.
Offsets are really an example of trying to do something because it is better than nothing. However, given the lack of standards and transparency they are not a great substitute for measurable action taken at the immediate level.
Hopefully as cap and trade and/or carbon taxes get put into place there will be more 'natural' market forces to encourage the preservation of carbon sinks such as forests and purchase and implementation of higher efficiency products. As has been noted, the proposed increase in CAFE standards on cards will increase the cost of a new vehicle by over a thousand dollars, and by doing so save consumers money over their ownership of the car.
Instead of buying voodoo carbon offsets, you could just plant a bunch of trees in your yard. Reduce some carbon and get some enjoyable shade and maybe even reduce your carbon footprint with the shade and wind break.
If you already live in a forest, there are plenty of legit programs that let you donate to plant trees. I know they take money in Israel to plant trees there. If you don't want to support Jews, there's certainly other programs out there.
Then again, we humans richly deserve everything coming. I think it is clear that we are not intelligent enough to survive long term.
Sad but true.Unfortunately,it may be that evolution just isn't fast enough.I hope not.
Opus-
Evolution is not a continuous slow process, particularly for a top dog species like us. Evolution is not happening for humans, as there is no consistent long term selective pressure or short term punctuated equilibrium. As a species we are doomed, but in the end that is good for the planet.
Relax, party on.
I know they take money in Israel to plant trees there. If you don't want to support Jews, there's certainly other programs out there.
Does anybody else find this totally offensive?
@Opus 132: I find it totally offensive. Shame on you, juvanya.
This story is distracting the public from the serious nature of the issue at hand.
Your grandchildren now look to commonly experience extreme temperatures like what happened in Australia a few months ago, and to see 40% less animals.... soon to be extinct animals.
Wake up !
The quality of life for all humans and all other flora and fauna is seriously threatened.
juvanya said...
Instead of buying voodoo carbon offsets, you could just plant a bunch of trees in your yard.
What suburb do you live in, idiot? Or do you live in a rural setting, well outside some metropolitan area?
For your information, some of us live in cities, where we live in houses with very small yards, or have no yards at all.
For instance, the front of my house directly abuts the public sidewalk; the back yard is 16 feet wide, and less than 70 feet in length, with electrical and telephone lines and other cables strung across my property. There is no area where I can plant a tree.
And then some people live in apartments, condos, and/or co-ops, who have no yard at all.
So take your suburban/rural, know-it-all, attitude and stuff it if you can't even think of people in other situations.
And in addition, I totally agree with the opinions expressed by Opus (at 5:30 PM) and Juris (at 5:58 PM).
Mike in Maryland
My Blogger ID is http://www.blogger.com/profile/02848893412251095965
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Tomorrow is the day that Coleman and Franken's lawyers make their oral arguments before the Minnesota Supremes!
Hopefully,there will be a quick decision (the Supremes have had the written arguments and rebuttals for a few weeks) which would include a directive to Pawlenty to sign the certification.
THERE WILL BE LIVE VIDEO COVERAGE AT 9:00AM (CT) AT:
http://theuptake.org/
Mr. Frank,
Every one of the three or four commercial offers of 'carbon offsets' I have looked into have been a scam, in the sense that the companies buy clean energy to resell to me *that is already on the market*.
If you read the small print of a company like terrapass for instance, they will admit that they define clean electricity as that produced from wind, solar, hydro, or nuclear. Since about 12% of the US energy mix is already from those sources, that company has been collecting fees from it's customers since day #1 without decreasing carbon emissions one gram.
These companies promise is to 'virtually' supply the customer with clean energy, not to produce it.
To dramatize its claim that offsets are a moral travesty, one group has even created a web site that promotes the opportunity to enjoy guilt-free extramarital affairs by paying third parties not to commit infidelities they otherwise would have.
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I think that offsets are useless and (mostly) harmless, but I can't see the justification for hyperbole like the above quote.
There's no evidence that the people that produced cheatneutral.com want "to dramatize [their] claim that offsets are a moral travesty", or that they are a climate action protest group. I'd imagine that they created the site because IT'S FUNNY!
*resists telling somewhat off-colour economist joke here*
This is essentially a flawed article b/c it discusses offsets in terms of offsetting real carbon emissions. In reality, carbon offsets don't necessarily mean that one is offsetting real emissions. For example, one could buy carbon offsets in the form of purchasing acres of rainforest. By buying this rainforest, you may be ensuring that it will keep sequestering carbon in the future but you aren't actually eliminating any real carbon emissions in the present. In this way, a country could buy rainforest indefinitely as part of a carbon offset program without ever eliminating carbon emissions.
Obesity is an inaccurate metaphor for carbon offsets, IMO. It's more like the church giving indulgences - ostensibly the effort/money contributed by those in the wrong is supposed to have some positive effect eventually.
justsomeguy said...
Evolution is not a continuous slow process, particularly for a top dog species like us. Evolution is not happening for humans, as there is no consistent long term selective pressure or short term punctuated equilibrium. As a species we are doomed, but in the end that is good for the planet.Actually we are in a period of fast human evolution, unlike anything previously seen in our history. The selective pressures are too numerous to name completely, but include agriculture, alcohol, drugs, cities, cars, the internet, and disease (SARS and swine flu may turn out to be insignificant, but the 1918 flu killed between 20 and 50 million people - and what about AIDS and the black death?).
While there is certainly a chance that we may be doomed as a species, there is also a chance that some people now alive will continue to live (in some form or another) until the end of the universe (if not past that).
As to being good for the planet, I doubt that anybody other than us much care one way or the other.
I think the problem with carbon off sets is that they seem like an excuse for rich people to do what they want whilst insisting the rest of us show restraint. Personally I would support a scheme that mandated polluting industries, such as the airline industry or the coal industry, to offset there carbon footprints.
On the wider point of why the western world should act without the emerging economies acting as well, it seems to me like this actually an opportunity. The emerging economies often have based there growth on old technology. If the western economies bit the bullet and upgraded in more efficient ways, the would produce both a better and less polluting economy. Look at the American car industry. Everyone else in the world has been looking for more efficiency. The Americans have been crossing their fingers and hoping. Toyota, Honda and Nissan have all grown globally whilst sticking to Japan's far far tougher fuel standards, in the meantime GM for instance has fallen behind. It's not tough to figure a way forward really. Yet I don't know, pig headedness or arrogance keeps the US auto industry from doing much.
I've responded to this post with one of my own. I point out that carbon offsets are generally ineffective and discuss, in depth, the air conditioner analogy
Natch, not to slap you down or anything, but I would hardly call that an in depth discussion of the air conditioner analogy. Also I might be more likely to visit your campaign site if I knew that your platform was there, rather than having it suggested that it might be there! (People do misuse the word 'can' a lot, but there is no need to off set that by misusing the word 'may'.)
On the wider issue, you seem to have a problem with how carbon offsets are run rather than the actual process, which personally I think is a fair enough process. Personally I think the federal government should set up an offset system, to take the fraud and mistrust out of the system. I guess that wouldn't be terribly popular in the American system, but I think that there needs to be a level of transparency and openness about offsetting.
I was under the impression Gore bought a historic, plantation-type home, not built new...I know this is a side-note to the general conversation, but wouldn't his investment in making the home more efficient make an overall positive impact by reducing the carbon footprint of an existing property?
"Paying someone else to lose weight does nothing to improve an obese person’s health."
However, if implemented correctly, it would do a lot to improve the health of the people being paid.
In Europe, they are building net carbon negative housing with locally produced lime and hemp. We should do that here! (Note, it is currently a federal offense to do so, damn hippies!)
I think a lot of the outrage about carbon offsets belies the way the proscriptions for environmental health from many environmentalists are tangled up with their conception of personal ethics and responsibility.
In theory, Carbon Offsets should work fine. They create an industry that destroys carbon, rather than creates it.
I thought the points made by other commenters W/R/T corruption were good though. Practically, we'll need a reliable system for enforcement of sequestration contacts, if we want offsets to work.
Don't pay for carbon offsets, get them for free:
freecarbonoffsets.com
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