3.08.2009

Who Sits Where?

I admire Sam Stein. The other day, we were in a Robert Gibbs briefing, and he sat down before it started in a seat that happened to be Politico’s. Having once been politely booted from the same seat by Jonathan Martin, I stood nearby curious to see how long Sam would make it. Sure enough, a few minutes into the briefing, Carol Lee came and kicked him out, asserting her right, as a member of that organization, to sit in the assigned seat. Politico’s seat in February was in the sixth row, far left, but it has now moved up to the fourth row, three seats behind CBS' Chip Reid (see charts below).

Undaunted, Sam got up, noticed the second seat in the last row was empty, and re-seated himself. About five minutes later, Todd Gillman of the Dallas Morning News claimed it. Sam had to stand with the rest of us; Huffington Post, like FiveThirtyEight, doesn’t have a plaque-stamped seat.

There are 49 assigned seats in the James S. Brady briefing room, and thus far there are typically another 30-60 people packed standing in the U-shaped ring around the seating perimeter during briefings. For a visual, check out the Daily Show clip from this past Thursday night appended to the bottom of this post.

How are these seats assigned? The White House Correspondents Association determines who sits, not the White House Press Office. “Everything out there,” a White House staff person told me when I first arrived, referring to the demarcation between White House Press Staff offices and the working press areas, “we have nothing to do with.”

The WHCA's Executive Board meets regularly. The board knows the media landscape is changing, and it has the thankless task of having to accommodate increasingly frequent demand for reallocation of seat assignments. At a recent meeting, seats were juggled and the chart changed.

According to a media source, "In the past, the game of musical chairs in the briefing room was a combination of petty media politics and sucking up to the administration." As for the changes made after the recent board meeting, "This latest alignment does justice to the state of the mainstream media in the White House press corps."

Here's February's seating chart:



Here's March:



It's worth pointing out that the WHCA doesn't decide who can be in the briefing room. Losing a seat is not the same as losing access.

Still, one reason who sits where matters is that Gibbs only occasionally farms out questions as deep as the fourth row, rarely beyond that, and only occasionally goes to the standing wings near the front (David Corn is an effective questioner from his usual spot standing next to the WSJ, but few others catch Gibbs' eye). Nearly everyone in the first two rows get one question and a follow-up every day, which is at least the first 20 questions in what are typically 45-minute briefings. If you want an on-camera question and thus the best chance to put Gibbs on the spot with an answer that might become hard news, seating location matters. For his part, Gibbs has pledged to distribute questions better, but it will not ever change that those near the front have a huge edge on the field.

The three main factors in the shifting turf battle are (1) attrition as news organizations contract or disappear; (2) reporters working for organizations who have seats not coming regularly enough to protect their seats; and (3) the emergence of new media.

Attrition is not only inevitable, it's something the organizations plan fights over well in advance. For example, Fox News and Bloomberg will ultimately battle for a front row seat when one of those is vacated. Wire services AP and Reuters have the front row, Bloomberg is second row. NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN have the front row, Fox News is second row.

The financial dire straits of many shareholder-owned news media, including the vaunted New York Times (did NYT have trouble meeting payroll the other day?), will undoubtedly play a role in White House seating. For example, the Tribune bankruptcy has led to its seats consolidating into the L.A. Times seat in the third row. McClatchy is a possibly vulnerable seat down the road.

People not showing up to protect their turf speaks for itself. Not everyone shows up for every briefing, and those hungering to move closer to the podium take note of who's not showing up. Stop showing up, or show up infrequently, and your seat may become vulnerable.

As for the emergence of new media, the board knows it's inevitable, although certainly assigned seats or workspaces haven't happened yet. Politico is the closest to this model, but even it has a staff of roughly 50 people and a print edition. One reason is that the only organizations to whom the WHCA will even consider assigning seats (or, for that matter, the cramped workspaces crammed adjoining the briefing room) are WHCA members. Whether new media members will join the WHCA is an open question. Certainly, if you want the right to purchase a table at the WHCA annual dinner apparently a.k.a. "Prom" ($1,800 for a table of 10 seats), you have to be a member.

In certain ways the musical chairs fight seems small. It's inside baseball, but people seem to want to know about how things work inside the White House press corps, and this is one of those things. You're unlikely to hear about this from Jeff Zeleny or "that guy from Flight of the Conchords" (Chuck Todd) for defensible reasons.

If for no other reason, Sam needs a handy guide to know whose seat he's nabbing.

***

(Some chart notes on abbreviations:)
AFP = Agence-France Press (a major worldwide news agency akin to AP and Reuters)
NPR = National Public Radio
AURN = American Urban Radio Networks (the only African-American owned radio network)
VOA = Voice of America
CCH = Commerce Clearing House (another international-based publishing organization, owned by Wolters Kluwer)
UPI = United Press International
CSM = Christian Science Monitor
BNA = Bureau of National Affairs


64 comments

ArcadeFire said...

Thanks for this. Very interesting.

Sean Quinn said...

And yes, I'm one of the standers in the shot at the 3:42 mark in the Daily Show video.

ArcadeFire said...

Where was MSNBC in February?

Richard said...

This is the kinds of interesting stuff we can't find anywhere else. Thanks, Sean!

Mike in Maryland said...

On the February chart, what is the '2' doing on the Bloomberg seat (row 2, seat 3 [from the left])?

yippyskippyhowdyhoo said...

Membership is only $35
http://www.whca.net/2008application-memb.pdf

zorkerz said...

This is fascinating. At first I thought who cares but through the article I realize that this actually matters a great bit. Who gets to ask questions is a crucially important question for one of the main conduits of information from the administration to the public. The form of questions asked likely serves as a bit of a barometer for the administration as well.

smk22 said...

loved reading this...hopefully Sean can keep us apprised as seating changes in the future....

RufusRules said...
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RufusRules said...

I love these backstage-pass-in-DC posts! You should offer to wrestle Helen Thomas for her seat. Though I'm not all that sure you'd win :)

liberal_defender_of_freedom said...

Why do the networks need both T.V. and radio present? Seems a bit redundant.

Michael Stone said...

The TV and Radio news programs tend to be almost entirely separate. I'm more concerned about why NBC and MSNBC get two seats, since MSNBC is now NBC's de facto news division.

liberal_defender_of_freedom said...

Also, WTF is up with Politico? How is an online site just created in 2007 already on the 4th row? Is that normal? Cause it's becoming apparent they have weaseled their way to the forefront feigning being a moderate but now have become part of the right wing propaganda circuit. I notice Mike Allen of Politco is the Treasurer of the WHCA I suppose that has something to do with it.

How did Mike Allen and Politico get so much power so quickly? It seems the right wing is trying to take over all news outlets to control what we all think.

I mean, you got Frederick J. Ryan Jr., who was assistant to Reagan, who is their CEO and Robert Allbritton who is their financer, who owns all the DC area ABC networks.

I just worry when networks and media outlets with a clear partisan role begin to take control of too much similar to how right wing radio has completely dominated AM radio in the DC area, having knocked off all the competition and now broadcast on six or so AM stations while the remaining liberal station was removed around six months ago.

fred said...

It is astounding that such an important piece of the people's house is run in such a petty, old school way.

It is also astounding that we spent a huge amount of money reconstructing the place under Bush and we added only one seat and few new offices. Unacceptable.

Murbs:) said...

The only question I arrive at this "inside baseball" game is simply...and Jeff Gannon got his seat how again?

fred said...
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fred said...

Politico has done a great job of becoming Washington's political paper, with free copies of a glossy on the Hill and all over town. I was on the Hill a few weeks back and there was at least one copy of the Politico in every rep office.

fred said...

Finally people are picking up on what I have been screaming for weeks (thanks for putting up with the screaming) - Geithner is bought and paid for by Wall Street insiders:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-kuttner/white-house-confidential_b_172918.html

Nick said...

That was tactful of Sean not to mention which of those first seven seats is the one that's going to come open soon.

Freedem said...

Who got Jeff the Hooker's seat? and how did Jeff the Hooker get it in the first place?

Come to think of it why can't they do as Bush did and give Fox's seat to Comedy Central as Bush did with Helen Thomas' seat. CC arguably has a more reality based coverage.

fred said...

Nate-

Who should Sean ask that Obama consult on his next economics question to Gibbs? I vote Bill Seidman...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Seidman

Freedem said...

Nick - works great - need to enable contact for bug reporting/suggestions (try mine)

Looking harder at the Chart I would think that "tough love" for folks who report like J the H could lose seating, not for slant but for fraud. Called out and made to give impromptu reason for outrageous fraud or lose your seat should have salubrious effect.

Hu Chi said...
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Eddie VanBogaert said...

Great post--like the chart

Nick said...

Uh-oh, I didn't realize there was someone else here posting under 'Nick'... the guy above wasn't me.

@Freedem: nicksuserscripts+538TrollRemover@gmail.com

Hu Chi said...

Not that you were serious, but...

Jon Stewart's lambasting of CNBC is a clear indication of what someone who isn't afraid can do. And for sheer guts, Steven Colbert's performance at the National Press Club (while Bush sat next to him) is hard to beat. That's why I think leaving clowns like Rush to Stewart and Colbert is a good policy.

I may be wrong, but I think a fair portion of Rush's fans either can't read a keyboard or can't get a wireless signal in their car. That's an advantage for those who might miss the original comedy segments. CC's fans are way more tech-oriented than Rush's.

You're right about Comedy Central's coverage, but bringing them in as you suggest might spoil the fun. They're outside shooters who can be counted on for three-pointers.

Joey said...

Nate,

If you really want to go to prom, I'm sure you could scrounge up 10 of us who would pay $180 to be your posse and hobnob with the media elite at the WHCA dinner.

Joey said...

Oh sorry... that should've been addressed to Sean.

Dwight said...

> Finally people are picking up on what I have been screaming for weeks

That you repeatedly dump completely off-topic alarmist trash into 538's comment threads?

supergodofjello said...

Great stuff guys! I love hearing this insider info--keep it coming!

Gyrate said...

Sean may have been tactful but I'm not. How's the old girl holding up these days? I thought she was just hanging in there to annoy Bush.

fred said...

Count me in for a seat at the 538 table!

PorridgeGun said...

Jonathan Martin is a prick.


Also, wasn't he the guy who tried to take advantage of Obama's goodwill when the President made a friendly visit to the press corp.?



BTW, I LOOOOOVE that FOX is seated directly behind Helen Thomas. I mean, have you ever sat next to or behind an OAP on public transport?

fred said...

Dwight said:

"> Finally people are picking up on what I have been screaming for weeks

That you repeatedly dump completely off-topic alarmist trash into 538's comment threads?"

Feel free to add me to this new insane blocker. As for 538, prior to the election we actually had a community that discussed things on these threads, but alas, all those posters have been driven off. I may join them.

fred said...

As for being alarmist - I am not, this is scary bad and worse than most people seem to know. The fact that Canada and Mexico (our two biggewst trading partners) are both threatening more closed (e.g. less free market) policies is a very scary turn if pushed to its end. Protectionism at a time like this started the depression, but heck, we can whistle past the graveyard, right?

Zach said...

The back row is a tragic reminder of the state of the American newspaper. Yikes. Maybe all the Tribune Co. papers should just pool together and ask for a second-row seat?

Emma said...

The Washington Examiner gets a chair? Even if it's in the back row, that's nuts. It's a local give-away paper with no real staff or standing.

Jersey said...

Sean Quinn mentions those who "want an on-camera question and thus the best chance to put Gibbs on the spot..."

I sincerely hope putting Gibbs on the spot for reasons of high drama and high ratings is not the driving motivation.

Zach said...

@Emma

The key word there is local paper. Why do you think the WaTimes is so far up front? Anyway, at least in Baltimore the Examiner has a real staff and somewhat frequently breaks stories ahead of the Sun. There's tougher competition in DC, but there's also a bigger market for their product w/ the Metro crowd so I'd expect that they do real work, right?

MS said...

I was surprised to see that zero foreign media organizations have a seat (well, until the BBC started sharing a back-row seat with the Baltimore Sun this month). Is it because there aren't that many overseas journalists based at the White House or because the WHCA thinks they don't deserve seats?

nova_middle_man said...

Somewhat interesting. Since questions usually go to the front four rows though I don't see things changing very much. I don't see one of the titans going down and being replaced by new media anytime soon

FYI Baltimore Examiner is dead as of Feb 15th

Dwight said...

> As for being alarmist - I am not,

Alarmist AND OT. You have the gall to claim otherwise after I, and others, spent several posts in the last thread stuffing your uninformed rants back under the rock it belongs?

> The fact that Canada and Mexico (our two biggewst trading partners) are both threatening more closed (e.g. less free market) policies is a very scary turn if pushed to its end. Protectionism at a time like this started the depression, but heck, we can whistle past the graveyard, right?

Umm, you need to call your Senator and House Rep to deal with that. The stim bill included some rather egregious protectionist elements that kicked that off. Especially after the Whitehouse was all "yeah, all you G8/G20 folks, we really have to make sure work together with the stimulus stuff and not close off borders". :/

Reid said...

I think it's fascinating that there's exactly one seat allocated to a specific person (Helen Thomas).

Mark Tapscott said...

Being an Examiner editor makes me biased, of course, but Emma, shouldn't you actually know something about The Examiner before commenting on it? Our WH correspondent, Julie Mason, is a respected Washington veteran, our executive editor, Stephen Smith, was editor of U.S. News & World Report, and our managing editor, Michael Hedges, has covered wars around the world and major beats here in town. I could go on, but the bottom line is that we have a newsroom full of smart, hard-working journalists who do great work every day on all kinds of news and commentary.

Me said...

Did anyone else notice the optical illusion contained in the seating charts?

Charles said...

Have any of you noticed that the Moonies have two seats in the press room, as they own both UPI and the Washington Times?

As for the Washington Times, how on earth did they get a 3rd row seat while TIME and NEWSWEEK sit further back...? A holdover from Bush's days?

But really, the greatest problem with the seating is that the foreign press is grossly underrepresented. Come on, BBC sharing a backrow seat? And what about say Al Jazeera or Al Arabiya?
They're BIG and what they report matters greatly to the US.

Quriltai said...

This is a fascinating chart, but I'm surprised not to see the BBC on it. Do they get their info through someone else?

And good for AFP for getting the best foreign seat.

Boing said...

I think the Beeb only turn out for major announcements/crises, and otherwise get most of their stuff from AP and Reuters.

Can anyone explaint o me what "inside baseball" means? It's appears quite frequently in 538 articles.

Bob X said...

"Inside baseball" is something that is not about the substance of politics, but just about the insider personalities.

juvanya said...

Random, but interesting.

Wow that woman is old as hell. She must have been questioning the White House for decades to be still at it and to have a seat named after her. I wonder if her publication ceased, but she didn't.

Mike in Maryland said...

juvanya said...
Wow that woman is old as hell. She must have been questioning the White House for decades to be still at it and to have a seat named after her. I wonder if her publication ceased, but she didn't.

A quick search of Wikipedia will give you some basic information on Helen Thomas, one of the, if not THE, most respected journalist covering the White House. When she first covered the White House, the President was John F. Kennedy. No other reporter has covered the White House for a longer period, let alone continuous coverage. That means she is THE dean of the White House press corps.

Maybe you should have some respect for a first rate, and well respected, reporter. Oh, and take note of her actions when the Moonies took over UPI - some other (so-called) reporters should take her actions as an example of how a principled person takes action.

Ishum said...

C'mon, you really have to tell people who NPR is?

springer said...

This was very interesting...someone said BBC shares a seat with the Balt. Sun, but no other foreign press?

I think Helen Thomas is one amazing human being! I hope they added one chair in the renovation because they plan on retiring her seat when she retires/leaves us. That would get my vote!

thepeacocklives said...

The BBC has a content-sharing agreement with ABC News. You'll often see the same story aired on BBC and ABC News broadcasts.

MSNBC is not the defacto news division of NBC News. NBC News is the defacto news division of NBC News. NBC rarely calls on MSNBC except for occasional political commentary during large media events (such as elections, etc). Nowadays, even breaking news is broadcast separately on the two nets. On the other hand, MSNBC often utilizes the resources of NBC News for international (and NBC News supplements that via its partnership with British partner, ITN), general assignment reporting, politics (content supplemented via agreement with New York Times), business (via corporate sibling CNBC and its joint venture with Dow Jones/Wall Street Journal), and weather (via corporate sibling The Weather Channel).

MSNBC also has some smaller content-sharing agreements with Newsweek, Washington Post, Entertainment Weekly (NBC utilizes that too), and People magazine.

Probably more than you wanted to know, but that's just an explanaion of what NBC News is and why MSNBC is absolutely not the feeder service to NBC News. It's the other way around. You'll notice on MSNBC that several correspondents, like Andrea Mitchell and Chuck Todd are referred to as "NBC News - Washington" or "NBC News White House Correspondent" ... Tom Costello is NBC News Washington... Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews are all MSNBC. Hope that helps.

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 先日10年賃貸 北区んでいた方が引っ越しされる際、敷金を返金して欲しいと言われました。賃貸 江東区よくよく契約規約を見ると「敷金は返金しません」という事が記載さ れておらず、賃貸 品川規約と違う…との事なんです。その規約を作成したのは以前の不動産会社で、賃貸 渋谷チェックしなかった私共も悪かったのですが、どうにかならないもの でしょうか?金額は15万円ほどです。10年も住んでおられたんで手直し箇所も多いです賃貸 新宿。どうにかならないものでしょうか?よきアドバイスをお願い致しま す。
 敷金は本来、賃貸 杉並賃料の未払いに備える担保であり、未払いなく契約が終了したら原則として返却すべきものです。

 賃貸借では、賃貸 世田谷家主は建物を貸す賃貸 中央区借家人はこれを賃料を払って借りる、貸すことに伴う通常の賃貸 千代田区消耗は賃料の中で計算して処理するというのが本来の賃貸借の原則です。

 建設省の方針などでも、賃貸 池袋今後の消費者保護の流れでも、賃貸 中野こういう内容の明確化を進めないといけないと思います。

 ですから、賃貸 文京区敷金は未払いがなければ原則返却という事を前提として、賃貸 港区消耗分は賃料の中に入れる方向で賃貸 目黒経営を明確化していくべきだと思います。

 そうでないと賃貸 新築とのトラブルが増えるし、社会的賃貸 ペット可にも理解を得られなくなると思います。

 住宅ねっと相談室の「賃貸 楽器可」にもありますが、建設省のホームページの賃貸 手数料なし住宅における「賃貸 保証人不要」もご参照ください。 賃貸 駅5分以内マンションの更新料支払いを義務付けた契約条項は消費者契約法に違反するとして、京都市の男性が貸主に支払い賃貸 部屋探し済みの更新料など約55万円の返還を求 めた訴訟の控訴審判決が27日、大阪高裁であった。東京 部屋探し成田喜達裁判長は「更新料は消費者の利益を一方的に害し、無効」との判断を示しデザイナーズ 賃貸、一審・京都地裁の判決 を変更し、更新料など45万5千円を返還するよう貸主側に命じた。賃貸 分譲仕様貸主側は上告する方針で、最高裁の判断が焦点となる。

 「入居2年で家賃2カ月分」賃貸 中央線といった更新料の設定は、首都圏や京都などで商慣行化しており、対象物件は100万件に上るとされる賃貸 京浜東北線。同種訴訟では7月、京都地裁が別の事案で更新料を無効とする判断を示し貸主側が控訴中だが、賃貸 京王線高裁レベルでの無効判断は初めて。

 訴訟は「消費者の賃貸 東横線利益を一方的に害する契約は無効賃貸 丸ノ内線」とする消費者契約法の規定に、更新料契約が該当するかどうかが主な争点だった