This blog is now on the Eastern Time Zone. I'm moving to New York. My new Congresswoman is Yvette Clarke.
I have a great deal of love for Chicago, where I've been for the past 13 years, and the Midwest, where I've been essentially my entire life. In the Internet era, one can cover American politics from almost anywhere: some extremely talented writers do it from places like Brazil and Mexico. Nevertheless, as I've watched the number of 212 and 646 area codes proliferate in my Blackberry (see incredibly dorky chart below), and become intimately familiar with the concession stands at LaGuardia Airport (avoid the Wendy's by Terminal D), I've realized that there's an if-you-can't-beat-'em, join-'em quality to New York City -- and I've decided to join 'em.
All right, truth be told, the decision isn't nearly as scientific as all of that. I love cities -- their intrinsic vitality, their polyphony of cultures, their food (!) -- and as a lover of cities, I'd feel stupid if I were lying on my deathbed and hadn't lived in New York for at least a couple of years.
As a result of this, posting volumes are going to be a little bit light over the next few days, although Sean (who sold out and moved to Washington D.C. in January) and Andrew (who already lives in New York) should keep things moving relatively smoothly. In the meantime, Go Green!, and things should be more or less back to normal by the end of the week.
3.30.2009
FiveThirtyEight Joins East Coast Media Elite
by Nate Silver @ 5:22 AM...see also site
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Welcome to the neighborhood!
Well, there go my chances of running into you in Hyde Park. Congrats on apparently fulfilling a dream of yours.
We knew it!
You're going to work on Wall Street, arnchya?
I'm not sure a pie chart is what you're looking for here. Could you please put up a cartographic chart? That is, a map of the US, with the zip codes sized according to how they're represented on your Blackberry?
Thanks.
wv: gingo: what a Mexican calls an Ameican.
I looked up the district you moved to and went "wait, Park Slope? Wicker Park to Park Slope? My God, Nate Silver is a closet hipster?"
Wait a minute...You have 773,312,630,815,847 phone numbers from Chicago in your Blackberry? I didn't know they sold ones with over a Petabyte of RAM (Not to mention that there were that many more phone numbers in Chicago than there are people in the world. Or that there are 10 digit phone numbers). The number of numbers from NYC doesn't surprise me.
God I'd love to live in New York. Brooklyn especially.
My best chance though is for my wife to win the NY citizenship lottery. I don't even get to enter... what the f*ck kind of 'special relationship' is that?
Where in Brooklyn? lol
And in another 4 years you'll be off to L.A., right before "538: The Movie" starts filming...
Welcome to Brooklyn. We are honored. Stop in to K-Dog and Dunebuggy Cafe and say hello. You kept me going and sane during the primary and election. I read 538 every day. You're moving to a great neighborhood... Yvette Clark, however, is not such a great congresswomen.
WOW! Can your blackberry accept calls from red states? That is a truly skewed area caode set.
Oh, and don't forget to follow your own poor advice and please don't buy a condo or apartment at these histroically low prices.
Nate,
We moved back East in 2003 after 16years in Chciago. Chitown was the greatest but there's a certain comfort being back in NY.
Jeff Katz
Deputy Mayor, Village of Cooperstown
SABR Member, Author of The Kansas City A's & The Wrong Half of the Yankees
My wife and two kids would love to have you over for dinner, maybe throw a baseball around in Prospect Park. Short of putting my email up for the world to see, I have no idea how to actually get in touch with you. Anyway, welcome to New York. . .
Hi Nate,
Welcome to New York!
As a long resident of both Chicago (18 years) and now New York (the past 7), I share your appreciation of both the City by the Lake and now Gotham. The Thai, Mexican food, and of course hot dogs are better in Chicago; in all other cases, you're getting a delightful culinary upgrade!
I'm a long-time reader/lurker, back before to the "poblano" days -
If you'd ever like a tour-guide to clue you in on the neighborhoods, best lunch spots, etc. between Midtown Manhattan and farthest Brooklyn, please look me up... I'd love to get coffee sometime and exchange notes.
syrith@nyu.edu
Take care,
Jeremy
Congrats on your move to the Big Apple...if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere! (heard that somewhere...). If no one has predicted it yet, let me be the first: This move to the media capital of the world will result in Nate Silver eventually becoming recognized as a 'giant among us' for his intellect, reason and perception.
Most importantly, though...love the 'Go Green' spirit!!! I know THAT part of the midwest will always go with you! Wishing you the best!
Hey, Yvette Clark is my congresswoman, too!
Welcome to the neighborhood!
welcome to brooklyn!
don't miss the arrival of spring at the botanic gardens.
As others have already said, welcome to Bucktown. Brooklyn (particularly the area you'll be moving to - though I imagine you'll be on the West side of Prospect Park as opposed to the East like me) is the place to be in NYC. You'll love it here.
Welcome to New York!
Nate...
If you were sitting on your deathbed it wouldn't be your deathbed...
Anyway, congrats on the move!
Oh no! Does this mean the The Burrito Bracket will forever remain your unfinished symphony?
Nate,
Good luck! But seriously, don't make the mistake everyone else makes. It's a great place to be for a couple years, but make sure to get out when the time is right ...
@Pragmatus: That brings to mind this famous quotation by Gerald Ford: "If Lincoln were alive today, he'd roll over in his grave."
Food? Cafes? Pshaw. Drink! Bars!
The traditional way to move to NYC is a pub-crawl. Start at your new home, and follow the subway line of your choice (on-foot where the bars are dense) by moving from bar to bar. If you pace it correctly, you'll go from Park Slope to Inwood over the course of about 24 ethanol soaked hours - this route (follows the 23 and then the 1) also passes three or four universities, so you can get the maximum number of disinhibited coeds following you from bar to bar. If you want to show some love for your home town, you get some reporter to photograph you with two young things on each arm, and say something like "This is news? This is how we roll in Chi-town", or whatever.
I grew up in NYC - awww the life of a New Yorker - the side truth is with 24 hour grocery stores in every state - it's no lnger the thrill it once was. Even the ethnic food has spread around some.
Well New Yorkers talk faster :-)
Make sure you take a ride on the staten island ferry - it's free and a nice ride with a wonderful view of the harbor. Also in April the elm forest and the cherry blossoms of central park are not to be missed.
It used to be that you could get decent tickets to great theater at thirty minutes to chow time - but I'm not clear if they still do that. Well worth the $30 bucks.
I do miss New york deli's... aww o well I guess NYC still has some thrills left.
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Welcome!
The bagels are much better; the pizza is the best (in a different style than Chicago).
Go to the Village sometime, on 4th Avenue they have good Indian food.
And give talks and stuff so I can visit!
Well then, looks like there are a lot of fellow Broolynites here on the site! Do any of you know where an eager young lad like myself can get a weekend/night job?
Also, let me join the chorus in welcoming you to NYC Nate although I really have to disagree about the Wendy's because many is the morning where the breakfast chicken sandwiches (not available in Texas I later found out) have made my flights more pleasurable by far. Hopefully I'll run into you somewhere along the line and get a chance to thank you personally for all of the great work you've done here.
Welcome to Park Slope. The BLTs on a bagel at AREA bagels on 5th are the perfect hangover cure.
Nate:
Too bad you've been seduced away from your true home.
You'll be back.
@Juris-
I saw the quote below on the other day's post and it looked like you were talking about MuleRider? What did you mean?
@Befuddled: the (ir)relevance of the obsessive feces-focused comments will be determined on Tuesday.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/03/democrat-murphy-now-favored-in-ny-20.html#comments
Welcome to New York, Nate! For your own good, I wish you only a modicum of success-- they just raised our taxes yet again.
@Matthew H: tomorrow is election day, so arguments about the validity of this poll or that, or the strength of this candidate or that, will be moot.
Thanks, Juris. That makes sense. I was following down and saw the comments section devolve and a tangential discussion emerge about a possible connection between MR, PeteKent, GROG, Smoking Aces, Jack-be-nimble, and SantaTurdo, and your comment emerged soon afterwards.
I thought you had figured out some way to shine a light on those cretins lurking in the shadows but couldn't figure out why tomorrow had any significance.
Sad to see you leave Chicago. First Barack/Michelle, now Nate. All of the good ones are flocking east, leaving us stuck with Daley and Blago.
We Chicago readers liked claiming you as one of our own. Hope you make it back from the Big Apple one of these days.
Just please tell us you're not going to turn into a Yankees fan!
Go White!
I keep seeing references to Mule Rider - Matthew H, I'm looking squarely at you, but others are just as guilty, but I haven't seen a post from a "Mule Rider" or whatever in at least six weeks, if not much longer.
Now we can debate the merits of whether or not some of these other "conservatrolls" are in any way tied to MR or not as a single person, or two or three people operating under all of those names, but the fact remains that that name has not shown up for a long time on here and the comments section has cleaned up dramatically.
Some of us have horrendous memories of MR and his belligerent and filthy language, so why in God's name do people keep bringing him up when he's not reared his ugly head for quite some time and the comments section has improved markedly?!
If a "Mule Rider" comes on here with that name or something else where it's obvious who it is and starts littering the comments section again with threats and foul language, then we can address the issue but in the meantime, for goodness sake, let's please bury that name under 10 feet of concrete.
Welcome to Brooklyn! We're glad to have you hear at the bloggiest spot on Earth.
And please note that it's spelled Yvette ClarkE.
What poker connection? Mule Rider was just a filthy, angry, bitter, juvenile, chimp-brained imp who threatened Nate and other commenters. I never saw anything that tied him to poker. Just bigotry, anger, delusions of self-grandeur, and hysteria.
Smoking Aces does come off as a bit of a twit, but the two seem completely different to me, and I'm yet to see him threaten anybody or flame a thread. So as obnoxious as he may be, it is at least contained.
I'm still baffled, though, why MR is a topic and he hasn't posted on here for a very long time.
On behalf of those who loathe his existence and prayed for him to leave for good, can we just shut up about that clown?!
> What poker connection?
Someone pointed out that Mule Rider boasted about poker. I would understand if you had missed that considering he is mostly a "fly over" poster. :)
> and I'm yet to see him threaten anybody or flame a thread.
He threatened to threaten me just last Friday. Does that count? ;) There has been flaming spam. Someone else could dig it up but there was at least one thread with several posts a few minutes apart screaming at Nate to respond to his rantings.
Dwight is right on both of his points.
Nate--enjoy New York! I got over my city crush after nearly 20 years in Chicago; now I'm back in Lansing/East Lansing and happy to be here. Love to see that little sliver of Mich. in your chart. But Nate--a Blackberry? really? I thought you would be cool enough for an iPhone.
Okay, poker aside, which by the way, lots of people play and boast about...did this aces person really threaten you or just make an off-color comment.
It's one thing to tell somebody "they'll be sorry" or an ass-kickin' is waiting on them or whatever and something completely different to go into graphic detail about how the assailant is going to slit the victim's throat and be "gutted like a fish" if I remember correctly.
Good luck Nate...your dad told me about this Friday at my dissertation defense, he was on my committee.
New York is the capital of the world after all...
Seriously, you couldn't use a a broader selection of colors in your chart? :)
Welcome to town, Nate. I'm currently based in Queens. Maybe there will be a meet up of NYC Fivethirtyeight fans some time.
Charles wrote -
It's one thing to tell somebody "they'll be sorry" or an ass-kickin' is waiting on them or whatever and something completely different to go into graphic detail about how the assailant is going to slit the victim's throat and be "gutted like a fish" if I remember correctly.
Actually, to me, they're almost the same. I have pretty much zero tolerance for anyone who uses threats.
I see about three reasons why people resort to threats.
The most sympathetic is that they may feel justifiable outrage, for example, at racism or statements that show callous disregard for human life. However, an impotent verbal threat over the internet is a weak and undisciplined reaction to such things.
A second and more common reason for threat use is inability to defend one's own points in a reasonable way.
The third reason is probably the most common, and is often seen in company with the second. Indulging in authoritarian fantasies of dominating others with violence.
As a native Chicagoan who also now lives in Yvette Clarke's congressional district, I'll also extend a welcome to the 'hood. If it's food you're interested in, there's a ton of great stuff here. Check out the West Indian cuisine that you can't get in Chicago -- Jamaican, Trinidadian, Guyanese. Delicious.
Dude, you're going to want to check out La Taqueria at 7th and Lincoln, srsly. It's been a while since I lived on Garfield Place (two blocks down from Chuck Schumer, IIRC), but La Taq is always my first stop when I get back. As a scruffy blogger, you won't have to go to Two Boots on the weekend, which is a mercy (you'll see), but go. Beso is worth a look, but Al-di-La is one of the best restaurants in the country. And of course you'll want to put the Donuts diner on your route. Can't miss it. It's by the 7th Ave F stop, under the sign that says "Donuts." Enjoy.
Nate,
I really like your blog. It’s great to read a liberal who’s logical.
Please, however, don’t become too much a part of the NY “elite.”
You may have one ibanker friend who is a good guy, but trust me, most of them are not very good people. I also have one ibanker friend who I trust, unfortunately, I also know about 20 others that are greedy and pretty immoral.
You say wall street shouldn’t be demonized, but I honestly think your friendships are biasing you. Until your post about your ibanker friend, I’d been assuming your Dad was an investment type. Yes, they work very hard. In my experience (an n of about 25 realistically), they are defiantly below average on kindness and honestly and above average on greed and screw-you-I’m-going-to-get-some …
You like to point out that the housing bubble could explain a lot of the recent economic downturn, but don’t factor in the role wall street had in causing the housing bubble. Here are two other examples of unethical behavior perpetrated by wall street on a systematic scale:
Example 1: Fraud. Take a bunch of B- assets, do some sketchy math and sell them as AAA securities for a massive commission. If this had been car or any other type of sales, I doubt you’d be so generous to the people that knew they were selling something of poor quality, while they told everyone and certified it was high quality.
Example 2: Insurance scams. Sell the equivalent of financial earthquake insurance and pay yourself the premiums instead of keeping them as capital for the “earthquake.” This is done by selling credit default swaps and paying yourself the income they earn as commission and keeping virtually no capital as collateral. If AIG had sold the same products with the risk being an earthquake or flood instead of company failure, they’d all be in jail already.
You also like to point out that bonus caps could hurt these firms since it would hurt good people or encourage them to move to other firms. Your implicit assumption, however, is that it’s a good thing for these firms to stay in business. I disagree, the best thing would be to encourage good people to go to firms that were less systematically corrupt and greedy. Keeping the bad firms doing what they did is what got us here.
The people I know (including a few friends) who went to work on wall street are some of the smartest and definitely the hardest working people I know. You’re certainly very smart Nate and work hard. I’d imagine you’d like to spend time with other hard working and smart people. Please, however, avoid the wall street “elite” - they are the most greedy and least moral group of people I’ve ever met (I realize you think I’m exaggerating, but name another group who better fits this description).
Bye Nate. Chicago will be less cool without you.
Welcome to the neighborhood.
Gorilla Coffee will be key if you live anywhere nearby.
We will look forward to seeing you around.
Nate-
Welcome to Brooklyn where I spent the first 25 years of my life.My elementary school was three blocks from Ebbetts Field.In my classroom I could hear the roar of the crowd when something exciting happened during the game.(Most games were day games at that time.)
Ebbetts Field was a wonderful place to watch a game.You were very close to the players and the field,unlike most modern ballparks.
I must confess though that I was a Yankee fan (sorry,jballin),the only one in the midst of rabid Dodger fandom.Those were the days!
"You're going to work on Wall Street, arnchya?"
They're going to need some new quants, once the old ones abscond to Bhutan with the bonus money.
MuleRider threatened both the Natester's life as well as the president's - VERY specifically.
I'm torn - one the one hand, as a New Yorker, born-and-bred, I'll be happy to count you among us. Plus, I'm looking forward to you making some local appearance at a college or something.
On the other hand, I really like Chicago (where I lived for a time last year) and thought your being based out of there made you kind of unique among high-profile bloggers. It seems like everyone blogs in Brooklyn.
Either way, though, a hearty welcome!
Nate, Its not just what you said but New York gets you:
Boston
Philadelphia
Hartford
Providence
Baltimore
DCmution
Best of luck to you, Nate. We'll miss you here in Chicago. Funny that New Yorkers LOVE Chicago, but only after they've gotten the Big Apple out of there blood. Truth be told, I'd have loved to live there for a year or two, but no longer than that. The hustle and bustle is fun, but grinds on one's nerves after a while. It's also prohibitively expensive for EVERYTHING. Enjoy your time there, and perhaps you'll have a new found sense of love for the Windy City "if" you ever come back. Me? I happy here at Clark & Division. :)
Yvette Clark! Nate, you're living in the congressional district I grew up in! I grew up in what is now known as Prospect-Lefferts Gardens. What part of the district are you in? (Yvette Clarke's district covers (according to Wikipedia): Brownsville, Crown Heights, East Flatbush, Flatbush, Kensington, Midwood, Prospect Heights, Prospect Lefferts Gardens and Park Slope.
(I'm taking a guess: You're in Park Slope...)
are you moving just because of your contacts, or to become the next stewart or colbert. because that would be awesome.
ditto what randy said, but coming from chicago & ashland. i moved here from la. perhaps one day i will jump on the wagon & do the move to ny, but i do love chicago.
Well if you weighted your phone contacts for amount of time spent in said city then I'm sure new york would wipe chicago off the map. So your science was fine. as always.
Welcome to the neighborhood! I'm in Yvette Clark's district too, near the northeastern edge of Prospect Heights.
Good luck Nate! I hope life in New York brings all the adventure, energy, and inspiration you could ever want.
I loved NY until I spent a semester living in Central London and traveled Europe. At that point I decided NY was overrated and too expensive.
I live in Milwaukee and it's a great city in its own right but having Chicago so close-90 minutes-helps too.
Frankly, your decision is sort of insulting but one I've dealt with time and again as so many I know have moved. Thay all seem to end up in Brooklyn too.
Anyway, I thnk your political writing may suffer. I find people who live in NYC tend to be out of touch politically. Of course they are ususally progressive but they seem to have no clue how the rest of the country thinks. And they think they are the only progressives in the country.
One of my NYC friends told me Caroiline Kennedy will be the next POTUS!
Welcome to the area! I'm in the District 12 part of Park Slope myself. Great place to live, though I'm surprised you found it rather than moving somewhere in Manhattan.
So I guess means the burrito bracket will never be finished?
Alas...
If you're interested in one last burrito in the neighborhood, let me know - I live across the street from Irazu.
Good luck in NY, and keep up the great work.
Great to have ya. We'll have to get a coffee sometime, Mate.
I find people who live in NYC tend to be out of touch politically.
You know all of the >8 million diverse people who live there? Your anecdotal evidence about your one friend (who may very well be out of touch) is pretty weak. And to proclaim that you think Nate's political writing will suffer based on the evidence of ::poof:: -- thin air -- is pretty absurd.
It sounds to me like you feel personally disappointed by friends of yours that moved to Brooklyn and left you behind. If you don't like it, fine, don't move there. But don't take Nate's decision as an insult and don't project your childish issues onto millions of people -- your stereotypes are over the top.
@Paul: don't be insulted. Nate has lived all his life in the midwest (MI and IL). Living someplace else for a while is likely to give him a fresh perspective. There's no reason he's suddenly going to lose touch with the masses by moving to NYC.
People out of all touch with reality can be found everywhere.
I also infer from his post that Nate has been spending what he considers to be an inordinate amount of time in airports, perhaps because an increasing fraction of his business contacts (publishers, media) are in the east.
So I just say "Bon voyage! And let us know when you land. And whatever else you do, don't become a Yankees fan."
Dude. You should hang with Ben Smith. He's a sloper, too.
Have a man date. Eat some bagels at La Bagel Delight and get yer Blog on.
Go White!
welcome to the congressional district, said a fellow u(c)->brooklyn transplant.
my apologies for the fact that our congresswoman is an utter dingbat who professed her unfamiliarity with "attorney world" (and was later ruthlessly -- and not unjustifiably -- mocked for it) during the House hearing on ENDA (late 2007 or 2008).
...but when (if ever) will Boston get the Nate Silver love?
Chicago is the greatest city in the world because we Chicagoans don't feel like we need anybody to tell us that it is.
You'll be back...
Lansing?
Boo. First Ira Glass, now you. ;)
In all seriousness, this is a phenomenon that Chicagoans have learned to live with over the years: a local hardworking chap builds his chops in Chicago for many years, gets some attention, then moves to NY to "further his career." Taking the wide perspective, it all makes sense. NY is the bigger market for most professions and is an absolutely essential stepping stone for certain professions and life decisions should probably be made by those that have to live with those decisions. Plus, I get the desire to live in different places in your life having toyed with the idea many times in my own life.
Still, for those of us left behind, trying to make it here and trying to make here a great place to live, it can be hard to take. Chicagoans want their local celebrities. They want to point to achievers and demonstrate how Chicago can keep its talent. How Chicago ATTRACTS talent because of what an awesome place it is. We want Chicago to be seen as the special place it is, not as the place people toil until they've made it big enough to move to a REAL city.
In other words, we have quite the second city complex (or is it "third city" at this point?).
So I send you off to NY with well wishes, Nate. And please understand that while I don't really hate you, my Chicago-ness demands that I hate you from here on out. Until you move back, you'll always be that guy that thought he was too good for Chicago. I'll still read your blog, but I'll be crying on the inside each time I do; one more reminder of the amazing talent Chicago loses every year.
I remember (actually, I never forget) Tom Geohegan's argument that Chicago is the Greatest City in America, New York belonging to the bigger world: not that it's unAmerican, but rather that it's a different world. (He also repeats a conversation he heard on talk radio back in the 1980's: Caller--"What's the tallest building in Chicago?" Radio guy--"The Sears Tower is the tallest building in the world." Caller--"I know that, but is it the tallest building in the world?")
One can be the best political analyst/blogger in the world as a blogger in Chicago, but until you make it in NYC, no one would know.
So, best wishes even though your move pains me.
NYC is the most exciting place in the world. Why would anyone want to live anywhere else?
Boo! Add one more vote ot the list of unhappy Chicagoans, pained to lose one of our stronger voices. Sure, we have the President, but losing Nate Silver? That's just terrible.
Honestly, what is so wrong about Chicago? Why are we just a stepping stone to "bigger" things? It's downright insulting. This is why we (both Cubs and Sox fans) hate the Mets and Yankees so much more than our would-be Central Divison rivals.
I've spent a lot of time in New York, and I hope you'll find that there ain't nothing in New York you can't get better in Chicago.
Good luck.
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Boo!
"NYC is the most exciting place in the world. Why would anyone want to live anywhere else?"
Because for those that dig it, there's a vibe in Chicago that New York simply doesn't have. Plus it's less congested and less expensive. (We pay $1300 for a three-bedroom apt. in Roscoe Village, one of Chicago's nicest neighborhoods--try THAT trick in NYC!) This is also a prettier city, and a cleaner one. I understand the attraction of New York, but Chicago has its charms in abundance, too.
I'm tired of defending this city, but anyone who thinks New York is the undisputed Best City In The World, No Question, they need to get out more.
That guy Jeremy from up in the top of these comments is wrong about the culinary upgrade.
I'll just pretend you're still here.
Welcome to the neighborhood! Let me recommend my favorite bar: Bar Great Harry. It's on Smith St. Maybe I'll see you there...
Modern Anachronist
Wow, why do we have to compete for which city is better? I like both New York and Chicago. I prefer to live here in NYC, but I also grew up in the area and have family roots here. Why the competition? Come visit sometime, and I'll buy you a drink.
I could understand living somewhere else other than NYC, if we had multiple lives here. But as we are guaranteed just one life to live here... O Lord, let it be in NYC!
You can take the boy out of East Lansing, but you can't take East Lansing out of the boy! Go Green!
Hey all, somebody can love both Chicago and New York. But only the superrich can actually live in both places simultaneously.
I think Nate's made his love for Chicago clear; but also his sense that his evolving business connections are much closer to New York at this time and therefore it's at least as much a pragmatic decision to relocate now as it is a desire for change or the New York experience.
So stop the shrieking and garment rending. Chicago and New York (both of which I've spent a lot of time in, though never lived in) are complex, sexy, attractive cities. I'd love to live in either one, but can't afford it! (Forget the idea fo commuting from the suburbs -- you lose 2/3 of the advantage of being in the city that way.)
i liked you a lot more before i knew you were rooting for MSU. although i am thankful to the spartans for taking out louisville, and giving me a better chance of winning my office bracket.
GO BLUE!!!!
there ain't nothing in New York you can't get better in Chicago.
Wrong.How about the museums,the theaters and the opera just for starters.In short,the very things that make city living so satisfying and enriching!
Nate, if you're moving to NYC there are two words you will need to know:
"Shake" & "Shack"
use the google, and understand
Enriching?
Never saw money fly out the door quicker than in New York. Sure the Metropolitan Opera is there, and it's wonderful, and an orchestra ticket will set you back $325.00.
Theater? $150 or so for a pair of tickets?
Of course you can find things cheaper. $15.00 standing room tickets at the Metropolitan Opera (well worth it) and off broadway shows that are every bit as good as tourist fare and sometimes better, but what a hassle.
Not that it would change your numbers much, but you forgot to include 818 in the Los Angeles area.
I don't make a habit of schooling New Yorkers --anything west of the Hudson being Hicksville USA in the minds of so many of them-- and it's not like any of it matters to me, but facts are facts.
Open-minded Chicago visitors will discover:
--(Not one but) two professional opera companies, to say nothing of a symphony orchestra globally acknowledged to be one of the very best in the world
--Legitimate theatre companies both big (Steppenwolf, Goodman, Victory Gardens) and small (too many to name, including one a couple of blocks over up by me at the far northern edge of town where a grocery/liquor store used to stand, plus countless others like it), plus a thriving and diverse performance poetry scene
--The Art Institute of Chicago, whose collection New York and any other city on the planet would be proud to boast as its own
--Field Museum of Natural History, Adler Planetarium and John G. Shedd Aquarium, all conveniently clustered on the gorgeous lakefront (and the incomparable Museum of Science and Industry down in Hyde Park)
--Public sculpture and architecture that, taken together, put every other city in the land to utter shame
Doesn't fit the narrative I know --except for the one spouted by those who think that Chicago knocks itself out in a desperate and pathetic attempt to measure up to NYC-- but it's the truth.
Anyway, 'grats Nate. It's our loss I guess, but at least you won't be wasting your hard-earned swelling the undeserving coffers of the Chicago National League Base Ball Club, Inc. anymore. A second century of abject misery begins!
I notice I'm the only one who lives in Queens.
Actually, I lived in Brooklyn much longer and only moved to Queens recently, you Brooklyn hipsters and yuppies. :). How many "graphic artists" and "freelance writers" are out there?
Peace, my brothers, just some gentle kidding.
I've also lived in Manhattan and the Bronx - every borough but Staten Island.
Not to mention Albuquerque, St Louis, Montreal, and Halifax.
welcome to new york. hope to see you at yankee stadium, where no matter who you're rooting for -- it's exciting baseball.
This is great
I'll catch Nate
While I wait
For my mate.
We should have a 538 meetup convention in NYC. ^_^
Awesome, grats Nate! I have the same exact feeling about New York. Though if food is what you're after, your ultimate destination should be SF...
Chicago Burritos: SF Burritos :: NIT : NCAA Final 4.
Oh yeah, in case you're visiting SF and need to know the final 4 of SF burritos: Tacqeria Cancun, El Farolito, Papalote, and La Taqueria!
Nate, let me be the 28th or so to welcome you to NY! I've always appreciated your thoughtful insights into the world of politics, as well as the many political debates I've won using them as a reference. I look forward to hearing your take on the local politics.
Also, I would definitely be interested in attending a "538-hosted" watching party next time something politically big comes up...especially with the number of us NYers who seem to appreciate this site! (Nate: I'm sure if you organized something like that, you'd drink for free all night...or, maybe even get a cut from the bar!)
La Pasadita will miss you.
From one Big Ten alum (Go Blue!) to "another" (sort of...does being from a Big Ten city make you a Big Ten alum? Why not...), congrats on Sparty's big win.
Nate could also be moving to Gowanus/Carroll Gardens in which case Yvette Clarke is a lost cause. I really miss Major Owens. My sense is that Yvette Clarke only won because votes were split between two other candidates during the primary and no one thought she was a serious contender but no one factored in the support of her mother's former city council constituents.
I hope that Nate decides to handicap the 39th District City Council race.
Yvette and the rest of us will only profit from having you in our district, Nate. If you are, indeed, on the best side of the park, and the side where Yvette grew up, then we will definitely see you at K-Dog. Welcome!
Welcome to NYC! You've certainly moved here at an interesting juncture in our history! And hey, if you're ever over in Nadler's 8th and want some gossip about the NYTimes, or about working for the NY delegation back in the middle of the Bush years, drop a line! And definitely grab brunch at La Grainne cafe on 9th and 21st sometime. Best crepes in the city!
You're downgrading Nate! Don't do it!
http://www.askmen.com/specials/2009_top_29/chicago.html
Stay in Chicago!
We'll miss you!
Nate, welcome to New York. Welcome to the rest of your life.
How long til you're hosting MTP? I'd say less than 5 years...
This can only mean MSNBC Analyst spot not far behind. Or at least a whole lot easier for us to get to see more of you Nate on the TeeVee.
Much good luck. It is a good time to move to NYC. "Overwork" is still the drug of choice, but prices are not geared to the mega rich as much anymore. People are more open to having other things in their life just making more money.
Interesting distribution of numbers but I see a statistical anamoly
I am fascinated how your blackberry is missing 516 in the NY area - You have all 5 boroughs, both Manhattan overlays, the cell phone exchange and Suffolk county but skipped right over Nassau county.
Avoiding Peter Kings county or just an anomaly?
Andrew Gelman should rip you a new one for including a pie chart with this posting.
Places you'll like:
Plan B sports bar
Soda on Vanderbilt
Geido on Flatbush
Places you'll find a little quaint:
Joyce Bakery (but their pan au chocolat is pretty good)
Franny's Pizza (go to Amarino instead)
Only in Brooklyn
Park Slope Superhero Shop
The Fort Greene Flea
BAM
Yvette Clarke is fine, I guess, but your city council member is Tish James, the real thing. Keep an eye on her.
Welcome to the hood
nate, you're going to love brooklyn! it's great here. i've been in brooklyn for 8 years, and while i originally wanted to live in manhattan but couldn't afford, over the years i've watched manhattan get less and less cool while brooklyn has gotten cooler and cooler. now i can afford to live in manhattan, but don't want to. brooklyn is really where the good stuff is.
i was in park slope for 6 years, and voted for clarke (she was my second choice in the primaries), i think you're in good hands with her. now i'm in williamsburg. it's more convenient to be sure, but i miss the architectural beauty of park slope, not to mention the park.
so, yeah, welcome to the borough is what i'm saying! and love the site and your commentary as well!
I live in Queens...Howard Beach
Welcome to New York! And in spring. No better time to be here.
Oh shit you are in MY congressional district. Brooklyn here, just.......uhhhh.......keep to yourself
Welcome to the neighborhood, Nate! Check out Tom's Diner in Prospect Heights, it's the best.(But don't go on Sundays; it's closed.)..
Every interaction I have had with Yvette Clarke has been negative. I find it hard to believe Brooklyn can't do better in a representative. I'll be interested to hear what your impressions are when you start vetting her as your own representative. Anyway, welcome to NYC. Happy to have you here, come on over and visit in CD 8 when you get settled.
Welcome to New York, schmuck! Now get offa my street!
I am sorry for Chicago's loss... but at least you'll still be on the interwebs. That makes it sting a little less.
welcome, nate, i'm pretty sure you'll love brooklyn. i doubt you'll have a minute to breath, but if you do, stop by brooklyn's greatest bar, the gate (5th ave & 3rd street), home of the best craft beer selection on earth, and headquarters of legendary rotisserie baseball collective, League Me Alone ... ask for Pat the Bartender (dude with the huge beard) ... he's a political junkie and baseball fiend ...
congrats on all your success ...
Nate, congratulations on the move into a larger media arena. I'm sure it'll mean less time spent in airports. Brooklyn's a little predictable, though, no? The twenty-somethings are all flocking there. Like lemmings.
Anyway, as someone who has lived in both places, Chicago's got better theater and is more beautiful. New York has a great fashion scene and way more opportunities for profile-raising for someone in your position. Best of luck and keep up the good work.
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