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1.02.2009

Pick Your Poison, Arlen

It can't be much fun being Arlen Specter these days:

But the issue puts Specter in a particularly tough position that is a typical quandary for Republican moderates. Facing reelection in 2010, he hails from a state where unions are strong and the electorate is becoming more and more Democratic. That puts pressure on him to support the labor bill.

But Specter often faces opposition from fellow Republicans for being too liberal: In 2004, he faced a tough primary challenge from the right by Pat Toomey, who is now president of the Club for Growth, an anti-tax conservative group.

Toomey says that if Specter casts a decisive vote on the labor bill, "he virtually assures he will deal with a primary challenge and he hands the challenger a powerful issue."
The labor bill in question is the Employee Free Choice Act, a bill on which Specter's vote is absolutely crucial to the Democrats. Specter voted for cloture when EFCA came up in 2007 -- he was the only Republican to do so -- and has long had the backing of labor unions in Pennsylvania, most of whom endorsed him against Democrat Joe Hoeffel in his successful re-election bid in 2004.

But Pat Toomey, the conservative Republican who came closer to knocking off Specter in 2004 than Hoeffel did (losing by just 1.7 percentage points in the Republican primary) seems to be suggesting that he'll run against Specter if Specter votes for EFCA. Is Toomey -- or another conservative Republican -- a credible threat to Specter?

On the one hand, conservative Republicans tend to be out of vogue these days, especially in a state like Pennsylvania, who couldn't kick Rick Santorum out of the Senate fast enough in 2006. But the preferences of Pennsylvania's electorate as a whole hardly matter. Pennsylvania is a closed primary state, and so only Republicans would vote in the event of a primary challenge. With many of Pennsylvania's moderates having registered with the Democratic Party in order to vote in this year's Democratic primaries, Specter might not be able to count on much crossover support in the primary, especially with the Democrats liable to have a very interesting primary of their own taking place at the same time.

Still, Specter wouldn't seem to be in too bad of shape among his base. Quinnipiac has his favorability ratings among Republicans as 60 percent favorable, 21 perecnt unfavorable. Specter's ratings were notably poorer in 2004, when as of April of that year, Quinnipiac had measured his numbers as 52 percent approve, 31 disapprove among Republicans.

Toomey is now President of the Club for Growth, which came to his aid in 2004 but has a somewhat spotty track record of late, having lost 3 of the 4 Senate races where they backed a candidate in November. It's hard to know whether an organization that brands itself as the Club for Growth tends to do will be seen as a part of the problem or a part of the solution if the economy remains sluggish two years from now.

For the time being, however, Specter would seem to be at greater risk of losing in the general than in the primary. If he thinks he can guarantee himself labor's backing in the general in 2010, odds are that he'll call Toomey's bluff.

37 comments

Ian said...

It's too bad that the moderate Republicans are in the most trouble, and not the far right wingers. As the moderates lose to democrats, the republican party shifts further to the right, further polarizing our politics.

nkpolitics1279 said...

Former Senator Rick Sodomy- (Man on Dog)- R-PA. wrote a column about the Specter vs Matthews race.

jrubinstein said...

Sen. Specter could follow the lead of Sen. Jeffords, who left the Republican party in 2001.

Spam210wal said...

Ian: Absolutely agree. It's really a shame that slime like Jim DeMint and Wacky Tom Coburn appear to be in no real trouble, while people like Specter are.

nkpolitics1279 said...

Specter is going to be in the similar situation as Lincoln Chaffee or Wayne Gilchrist.

He will narrowly win the primary and lose in the General Election to either Pat Murphy or Allyson Schwatz.

He will lose in the primary and Democrats easily win in the General Election.

Michael said...

nkpolitics, I will only observe that people have repeatedly considered Specter vulnerable in general elections, only to be repeatedly proven wrong. If he wins the Republican primary, no-one should bet against him.

King Politics said...

Specter can support the Democratic position on this vote and survive because the Republican primary electorate in Pennsylvania is not as fiscally conservative as the Club for Growth thinks. This is why Northeast and New England Republicans are more moderate than Southern Republicans. The entire electorate is more moderate, so Specter can get away with the occasional vote against the GOP.

STepper said...

It's time for Specter to retire and enjoy "spending more time with [his] family." Pennsylvania is blue. So, in the meantime, maybe Arlen can vote for cloture and be the Dems magic bullet.

wv - scent (UFB)

Juris said...

@King: Spechter probabably can also get away with more votes against the GOP when the president is a Democrat than when he's a Republican (ceteris paribus).

wc: prefusl (there's no point in Spechter making a prefusl, when he can always make a fusl later on)

Alex S. said...

Having watched a few of the astonishing youtube vids made at McCain/Palin rallies, I think that all it takes for Specter to lose his primary is not getting the support of Sarah Palin.

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Benjamin said...

As a Pennsylvania Democrat, I'd like to point out what many fail to. WE LOVE SPECTER IN THE COMMONWEALTH. It doesn't matter if a reincarnated JFK decides to run against Specter in the general election, his moderate approach to politics (he's pro-choice, for example) and his ability to represent the entire state (versus pandering to just the Philadelphia electorate) make him an incredibly popular politician. His 60% or so approval rating among Democrats in the commonwealth should be evidence enough of this. So the general isn't a problem, only the primary among staunch conservatives.

What should Specter do then? He should vote for cloture and then vote against the legislation itself. This would allow the piece of legislation to pass with the simple majority, while avoiding the downfalls of betraying his party... this is how progressive southern congressmen stayed in power despite having segregationist, racist constituencies back home.

Tim said...

It seems likely that Toomey will mount a primary challenge whether Specter votes for EFCA or not.

uebern8 said...

60 to 21 unfavorable among Republicans, but what about likely voters in a Republican primary. Sounds like a perfect area for some 538 analysis.

larrycowan said...

It's time for the moderate Republicans. e.g. Spectre, Snowe, etc. to join the Dems, just as Phil "The Weasel" Graham and Ben "Nightwhores" Campbell did in reverse. That way they can avoid their primary problems and sit comfortably with the Blue Dogs.

Kr said...

If Specter loses the primary, he could always pull a Lieberman and run in the general as an independent.

If the Dems really need his vote, they could promise to to run a strong candidate against him.

coolstar said...

Michael is exactly right (stated as one who spent 14 years living in PA during specter's tenure). And Benjamin is mostly right: only I'd state it as Specter has been FOOLING PA democrats for a very long time. Specter always gives the APPEARANCE of being liberal, until push comes to shove and he either votes with the other Repugs or refuses to speak out against their atrocities, or both. The politician he most reminds me of is Howard Baker during the Watergate hearings.

Brian said...

The Dems could offer him a spot on their ticket if he gets primaried out.

Alternatively, they could water down on EFCA to require more then a simple majority to form a union by collecting cards. If the vote is this close now, a compromise still maintaining a majority vote for secret ballot elections but allowing card check to work with a supermajority may pick up the needed votes, depending on how high the threshold was.

nikip5555 said...

Rank and file Republican voters are realizing that their leaders have led them astray for the past N years. They will want someone who is part of the solution, not part of the problem. With over a year until the primary campaign starts, there is some time for people to see some results before they go vote.

Also, the Republicans in PA will want to nominate someone who can win in the general. Choosing someone more conservative than Specter will not help them.

Adam said...

I second nkpolitics and Benjamin here: If Specter jumps ship he's assured reelection here. And coolstar, many PA Dems just aren't that liberal. Especially outside Philly.

Benjamin said...

@coolstar

Fooling us? I don't know about that, although I will concede that he's siphoned a very liberal voter from the Democratic base due to his tendencies of moderation, even if when push comes to shove he is a Republican. No person with a decent respect for a progressive Supreme Court, for example, looks at his handling of the Thomas nomination as a "good" thing.

However, unlike Sen. Casey of PA, a Democrat, Sen. Specter votes for embryonic stem cell research and other progressive measures often blocked by a "pro-life" label. He has shown himself an ally to unions and he's never been a truly firm supporter of the hawkish, pro-torture White House of the past eight years.

What really sold me on Specter, however, was his seeming ability to always vote in line with what is best for his constituency rather than ideology. For example, when USAir pulled out of Pittsburgh despite boatloads of federal and state funding, he promised that they would never get any more favors from him. A little while later, when USAir was seeking gates and Philadelphia International, Specter kept to his word and refused them. Its that kind of stand-up mentality and regard for his own conscious that cause a lot of Pennsylvanians to highly regard Specter, I've found.

moondancer said...

Specter's years of moderate press conference lip service followed by lackey devotion to the Bushies at vote time has worn thin here. He is going to face formidable and energized democrats determined to oust him.
That and his serious health issues leave him virtually doomed.

D said...

Anyone but Specter. I'd vote for a ham sandwich before I would vote for that weasel specter.

Cats r Flyfishn said...

Specter started out in politics as a Democrat. Maybe it's time for him to return to the Democratic Party.

Cats r Flyfishn said...

Well, looking at D's comment, there is that Clarence Thomas/Anita Hill incident. If it wasn't for Specter badgering Anita Hill, Thomas may have never made it to the Supremes.

Cats r Flyfishn said...

nkpolitics, I will only observe that people have repeatedly considered Specter vulnerable in general elections, only to be repeatedly proven wrong. If he wins the Republican primary, no-one should bet against him.
Actually, Specter almost lost to a female Democrat back in the early 90's.

Mike in Maryland said...

You must remember that it is the conservative Republicans who vote in primaries out of proportion to the party's total membership. It is the liberal Democrats who vote in primaries out of proportion to the party's total membership.

If the PA Republican party has bled some members to the Democrats, it certainly was not the conservative wing of the party that left, thus the (already) overrepresented (for primary voting) conservative wing will be even stronger in the 2010 Republican primary.

Specter probably would win a 2010 general election, but he has to make it there first. Since he was almost knocked off in the 2004 primary, when the Republican party in PA was larger and had more moderates in the party, AND the political environment was more favorable to moderate to conservative (vs. moderate to liberal) candidates, to me it looks like Specter is facing very poor odds in the 2010 Republican primary, much different than in 2004. The only thing I think could save him is an extremely bitter and divisive battle of three or more extremists to his right, splitting the R primary vote. He'd need about 35% of the primary vote then, and would probably face a much easier general. I don't think the conservative Rs will allow such a divisive primary, but rather pick one R to face Specter to increase their opportunity to win the primary, then try the usual R dirty tricks to win the general election.

Nichlemn said...

I don't get it with primary voters. It's as if they'd rather have a pure heretic to their ideology than a modest apostate. Or else many voters just aren't very bright at voting tactically. For instance, Laffey would have had virtually no chance in the 2006 RI Senate general election, so a vote for him was tantamount to a vote for the Democrats.

nkpolitics1279 said...

During the 2008 MD-1 Republican primary. In MD-1Cd-which is a strong Republican district held by Moderate Republican Wayne Gilchrist- The Club for Growth Republicans helped Conservate Republican State Senator Andy Harris from the Baltimore Suburbs to defeat Gilchrist in the primary. Harris lost in the General Election to an Eastern Shore area District Attorney. Frank Kravotil.

Octavian said...

Specter is also popular among research institutions like the many Universities across Pennsylvania. He has an excellent track record for supporting funding of scientific research. That was one of the main reasons he was the lone Republican to receive my vote in 2004.

Mike in Maryland said...

Nichlemn said...
"I don't get it with primary voters."

Simple. Primary voters are the most dedicated, and the non-dedicated voter stays home, thinking 'It's only the primary.' The most dedicated are usually the 'non-moderate' wing of the party - the most conservative of the Rs, and the most liberal of the Ds.

Also, the radicals of all political parties are more interested in ideological purity within the party than winning. They believe that with ideological purity, there is little question as to what the party stands for, and with the 'proper message', they will win the next election, because 'how can any thinking person not see the TRUTH of our ideology?' thinking. This type of thinking is more prevalent in the Rs than Ds in the US, but it also exists in the Democratic Party.

This type of thinking also exists in other political parties - any of the various Communist parties that exist (or existed) throughout the world (Stalin/Trotsky anyone?); the Fascists, especially the Nazis; the religio-political parties of any stripe; etc., etc.

Cugel said...

Specter probably could do try the same thing that Joe Lieberman did in CT if he loses the primary -- run as an independent.

It might even give him MORE appeal to moderates of both parties if he denounced the "partisan politics of both sides" and tried to run straight down the middle. He'd probably get many conservative Democrats as well as moderate Republicans.

And if he split the Republican vote and still lost, then good riddance as far as he's concerned. Just like Lyin-Joe he's in it for himself. And if the damn primary voters screw him out of his seat, he can screw the party right back!

It worked for Lieberman, and it could work for Specter too.

All sitting U.S. Senators have access to plenty of campaign cash and Specter's favorability rating would probably NOT be hurt by running as an Independent.

It would certainly be an interesting race. Whether he'd win would depend a lot on who the Democrats nominated to oppose him.

But, this entire speculation is academic. Specter is going to vote along with all the other right-wing Republicans and oppose card check. At best he'll abstain. No way will he buck the other Republicans and vote FOR it no matter what lobbying he receives from unions. He'll stab them in the back of course, because that will mute any primary challenge he might receive.

Then he'll try to weasel his vote for the next 2 years, which is what he does best. He's a sleezy-lying weasel who pretends to be a moderate but in the end is just as willing to go along with his party as Mitch McConnell or Saxby Chambliss.

Kati said...

Specter hasn't faced a serious general election challenge since 1992--when Lynn Yeakel came within 2 points of him in the famous "Year of the Woman." I agree with the posters above who point out that he's more worried about a primary challenge.

He's going to need to feel that voting for the Free Choice Act is something that people in the swing and Republican base areas of the state--the "T," Altoona/Johnstown, etc.--want him to vote for, if he's going to feel secure enough to cast a ballot with the labor movement.

counsellorben said...

Late to the party (again...)

I think that Specter cannot survive his primary challenge in 2010.  In the Philadelphia suburbs, many people who were moderate Republicans have switched registrations (one of the reasons why Democrats erased a deficit of 240,000 registered voters vs. Republicans between 2004 and 2008).  As a result of the flight of moderates from the party, the PA Republican party has moved further to the right over the last four years.

Because Pennsylvania primaries are closed, Specter has lost a very significant number of primary voters, and is now much more vulnerable to losing the 2010 primary to a challenger to his right.

If Pat Toomey were to run in the primary, I would call Toomey the favorite to win the primary. However, if Specter were to survive the primary, he would be the favorite to win the general election.

I think that Specter will retire in order to permit another moderate Republican to have a shot at winning the primary (perhaps his son Shanin).

abb3w said...

I don't know what the Pennsylvania law is on it, but if he starts getting a hard time in the Republican primary, he might start trying to seek the Republican AND the Democratic endorsements at the same time (while keeping the option to run Independent anyway).

In upstate New York, one particularly popular town supervisor managed to get himself the Democratic, Republican, and Liberal nominations back in the 1980s IIR. (I think the Libertarians and Conservatives both ran token candidates.) However, I've heard some states have laws which prevent a candidate from being listed on the ballot by multiple parties.

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