1.10.2009

Obama's Indifference on Tax Cuts

The Obama team's impact assessment of its economic recovery was released this morning and is available for public viewing. It's an interesting read all around, but there's one thing in particular that caught my eye:


These are the Obama economic team's estimates of the multipliers resulting from a permanent increase in government spending equal to 1% of GDP and a permanent tax cut equal to 1% of GDP, respectively.

"Permanent" is an important qualification here, because in reality both the spending increases and the tax cuts are supposed to be temporary. With that caveat in mind, by the Obama administration's own estimates, spending is likely to be considerably more productive than tax cuts, producing a $1.57 gain in GDP for every dollar spent versus a $0.99 gain in GDP for every dollar of tax cuts.

These figures shouldn't be considered especially controversial. On the contrary, they seem fairly close to the average views among economists -- although note that I use the term "average" rather than "consensus" because there is considerable room for disagreement within those averages.

Nevertheless, if Obama thinks tax cuts are liable to be less effective than spending, why is he advocating for them in the first place?

For one thing, the fact that the multiplier on the tax cuts is relatively lower does not mean they wouldn't have some stimulative effects. If I give you $100, and you spend half of it and save the rest, that's still $50 more circulating in the economy then there would be otherwise. This is the direct effect of tax cuts -- the indirect effect is that of the $50 you spend, the businesses whom you spend it on will in turn spend, say, half of that ($25) on hiring new workers, building new machinery, purchasing new inventory, and so on. And then some fraction of that $25 is also recirculated into the economy -- the new workers that I hire will spend some of their new income, the companies that I buy inventory from will in turn purchase additional inventory of their own, etc. The administration assumes that in the long-run, this process will add up to $99 of GDP growth for every $100 of tax cuts. That doesn't sound like a great deal and it isn't, but the $99 is at least money that gets spent now, whereas the $100 is money that will be borne in the form of deficits by future generations. (The tax cuts, of course, may have additional benefits that are normative rather than financial, such as flattening income distributions -- or, you can take the libertarian position that tax cuts are an intrinsic good.)

Nevertheless, Obama posits that $100 spent on tax cuts provide for considerably less bang for the buck than $100 spent on government purchases. The nice thing about the $100 in spending is that the initial $100 is automatically added (quite literally, in fact) to GDP. Then some fraction of that $100 in turn gets reinvested into the economy -- the construction worker whom you hire to build a bridge takes his family out to dinner at his favorite restaurant, which in turn hires a new line cook as a result of the improved business, and so on. The downside to government spending is that it might crowd out private spending. If the $100 I spend is money that the private sector would have spent anyway, then I'm not doing very much good, since private spending usually tends to be more efficient than public spending. But in this case, the administration figures that most of the $100 is money the private sector either can't spend -- private companies don't build their own highways -- or won't spend during a recession because it's become too risk-averse or because capital is too difficult to obtain.

To summarize, people who are arguing that tax cuts are liable to be more effective than government spending in the long-run are arguing in effect that:

a) A significant fraction of tax cuts will be spent rather than saved;
b) Public spending significantly crowds out private spending;
c) Private spending is significantly more efficient than public spending.

And people who are arguing that government spending that is liable to be more effective than tax cuts are arguing just the opposite:

a) A significant fraction of tax cuts will be saved rather than spent;
b) Public spending does not significantly crowd out private spending;
c) Private spending is only marginally more efficient than public spending.

Oops -- didn't mean to go on the long Economics 101 tangent. But the point is, right now, Obama's economists find the arguments for spending more persuasive than the arguments for tax cuts -- as do most (although hardly all) private and academic economists.

So to repeat: If Obama thinks tax cuts are liable to be less effective than spending, why is he advocating for them in the first place?

The rationale his economists give in the paper is that tax cuts are liable to go into effect more quickly than spending, since there are a limited number of "shovel-ready" projects available whereas tax cuts can begin having benefits almost immediately. This is a fine enough argument, but the efficiency gap that Obama posits between tax cuts and spending is large enough that it would seem to warrant at best a small fraction of the stimulus to be spent on tax reductions, rather than the 40 percent or so that Obama has proposed to spend now.

The truth is, however, that the Obama administration is probably thinking more in terms of an 'either' than an 'or': not a stimulus bill but two separate stimuli, one of which is $300b in tax cuts and the other of which is $500b in government purchases. And they seem to be roughly indifferent toward the tax cuts -- it may not be a coincidence that the long-run multiplier they provide on the tax cuts is almost exactly 1.00. They think they'll help a little, but not a lot, maybe just enough to justify running up the deificit, or maybe not quite. Provided they are indifferent toward the tax cuts, however, they can be freely brandished as a weapon to help facilitate the passage of the $500 billion (or more?) in spending, which is the part they're ultimately interested in. Accordingly, I think it's important for advocates for a larger stimulus to be focused on maximizing the $500b number as opposed to minimizing the $300b number; the scent of $300b is something that seems to have thrown both sides off the trail.

NOTE: Yes, this is an oversimplification. Not all types of tax cuts have the same multipliers associated with them, nor do all types of spending. So that's certainly something to fight about.

52 comments

Sam said...

first?

STepper said...

Nate- The Electoral Votes on the left side of the page should be changed. The vote count is no longer "Provisional." BHO was ELECTED! So, the vote count is Final.

Jenny said...

3rd!

Ezzie said...

Nate,

Does Obama split out the business tax cuts versus personal tax cuts?

Krugman suggested earlier in the week that personal tax cuts have a substantially higher multiplier than the business tax cuts. (Presumably, this is because companies don't want to invest the money while there's no demand.)

He thought the personal tax cut multiplier was something like 1.2, and if he was really generous, the business tax would average the whole package to about 1 (so I'm guessing business was around .8, but I don't know).

As I read him, he was fine with a substantial tax cut component, but the fight should be to shift the business tax cuts to personal tax cuts.

marc said...

We have already spent $350B on the TARP. What is the multiplier for that ? Seriously, it seems like a legitimate question, although it might be very hard to answer.

S.P. Weston said...

Yet again, we need to remember that the family tax cuts are a campaign commitment. They're sound long-term policy.

They are also a form of stimulus. They aren't the strongest stimulus, but they're fast and they'll make a difference. So it's honest to call them stimulus and want them done on the fastest possible time table.

If you ask an woman you respect to put on lipstick, she's still a woman you respect.

Arun Demeure said...

Nate- One thing that is often forgotten when talking about this (I'm shocked not to have seen anyone like Krugman mention it) is not every stimulus is felt the same way, and not every stimulus gets repaid in the same way.

Spending to create jobs helps those who have lost their jobs and are potentially in a catastrophic budget situation. Personal tax cuts help those who still have their jobs, but might have their budgets squeezed and are not comfortable with their current level of savings.

I think both must be look at pragmatically and it must be decided what percentage should go to both; $1K/family does not feel excessive to me, and might help confidence in ways that are not easily measured. Plus I'm sure Obama is eager to fulfill some of his campaign promises as fast as possible to maintain his high popularity ratings.

When it comes to the business tax cuts, I'm much more skeptical; there is a massive lack of investment right now, but I'd rather find a way to naturally restore confidence than boost it artificially and very inefficiently.

P.S.: First post for me, but I've been reading 538 ever since last summer - great job guys! :)

Opus 132 said...

we need to remember that the family tax cuts are a campaign commitment.

They were even more than that.They were on iron-clad promise,written in blood!

Smitty said...

Haven't posted in several months, but I've been a faithful reader since April.

Nate...thank you!

zosima said...

I'm of the opinion that when we're embarking on a policy of massive deficit spending, mutual exclusion between taxes and purchases is moot.

Tax Cuts might not be that helpful, but no amount of tax-cuts really preclude any amount of infrastructure spending.

The fed is going to finance every government purchase that it can think of and the plan still won't be big enough. Then they're going to spend on tax cuts until they bring unemployment down to optimal.

In other words, they're solving the following Linear Program(LP):
GDP(SP,TC) = 1.5SP + .99TC
Maximize GDP subject to:
SP < $500Billion
SP+TC < $800Billion

Obama's did this calculation ahead of time, found that they can't spend more than a certain amount on purchases, and decided to put the rest into tax cuts. Simple constraint maximization.

Personally, I agree with Nate and think that Obama's team left a little slack in their initial proposal so that the true constraints are:
SP < $800 Billion
SP+TC < $1.2 Trillion.
With Obama's team operating under the assumption that Congress will increase spending up to the LP's constraints.

fred said...

The multiplier on business tax cuts may be much higher than during a normal economy, as it could go to retaining workers instead of laying them off. THAT would have a large multiplier.

STepper said...

Is this klassic Keynes?

AML said...

Nate,

Thanks for the economics 101!

I think the true test of the stimulus bill is what they choose to spend the "infrastructure" money on. I think it'll be tough to ever prove that the stimulus actually "fixed" the economy (assuming it does). But if, in 10 years, we have real things to point to and say "that's where the money went, and we got value for our money", it'll do wonders for pressuring the conservative politicians/economists to admit that government spending can have value. By contrast, if we have half a dozen "bridge to nowheres" to show for our money, it will probably seem like just another waste of taxpayer money, even if the economy recovers.

Davy said...

Wow, I get busy with grad school and get back on here to find flame wars erupted a couple of days ago.

Moderating this site would be a huge time consumer and I prefer the free speech aspect of posting here. Again, I'd like to suggest switching to software or a format where WE can self-moderate. You know, "the community has closed this post" type of thing.

And while I don't normally agree with interdiction, Ass Rider has it coming. I sincerely hope someone has the fortitude to hunt down this clowns IP address and penalize him somehow.

Thad Beier said...

Another interesting part of this is what the inflationary aspects of each of these stimuli might be. If you just keep adding money by increasing spending or decreasing taxes permanently, I wouldn't be surprised if the real GDP increase was much lower.

sherifffruitfly said...

"Tax Cuts might not be that helpful, but no amount of tax-cuts really preclude any amount of infrastructure spending."

Bullshit. There's only a finite amount of money.

morzer said...

"Bullshit. There's only a finite amount of money."

Actually, not true.Governments can, and do, expand the money supply. Wise ones do so with caution, for fear of inflation, but the amount of money in circulation and available to governments is not, in fact, finite.

Alex S. said...

I don't know enough to "really" discuss the details of economic policy, and especially the theory behind it. On the other hand, I felt somewhat justified seeing the whole netherworld of investment banking crashing down to the ground. In the end, money is just a representation of value, not a value by itself.
It seems to me, very basically, that there are 2 ways to get out of the deficit trap - after all, all these TRILLIONS of dollars, are representing something of value, and it will be a severe loss of government efficiency if the debt consumes most of the tax revenue:
1. print new money
But there's always the danger of inflation, so the amount of new money needs to be related to a rise of GDP. That's why I am frightened by the degree of deindustrialization going on in the US. Government spending NEEEEEEDS to stimulate the primary and secondary sector.

2. Get foreign money into the American economy
That's a tricky one, because it only works if American money also stays in America. If everyone gets a free 1000$ stimulus check and spends it on a Japanese TV, this will be lost money. In short, the trade deficit needs to be diminished. That problem has been known for years but noone really cared because the financial sector was going well... and now... we have a record deficit, destruction of American core industries, a crumbling infrastructure... nothing to show for the trillions we spent during the Bush years... Oh, I forgot, Saddam Hussein is out of power...

I like the infrastructure projects. A good infrastructure keeps costs down and makes America an attractive place to invest.
Tax cuts are good, too, but the extra money needs to benefit those who can actually use this extra money (to spend it on American goods). I hope the Bush tax cuts get repealed as quickly as possible, and I also want a limit on CEO payments. It would be a waste if a tax cut only benefits Wall Street. We have seen now that tax cuts do not pay for themselves
(twice: pre-Clinton and pre-Obama), and I kinda like the indifference of the Obama team, one-handedly ignoring the Holy Grail of Reagonomics.
Well, that should be enough for now...

Clay said...

Nate: As usual you have done a good job of simplifying a complicated situation. But, I believe that you have missed the most probable reason why the transition team is proposing tax cuts: I don't think they can find more than about $400 bn in spending that is not a complete boondoggle and can be spent quickly. Therefore, to get the size of stimulus that the ecomists such as Krugman are calling for they have been forced to include tax cuts.

Pragmatus said...

Oy--just when I thought I would never have to tackle math again...

:o)

It might be good to keep in mind right now that the press has become such a monster that all the "clamor" we hear is mostly MSM editorializing. The best thing about Obama during this transition is that he is capable of tuning out all the crap coming from "news" organs and focusing on planning how he will tackle the economic mess.

Nate, your analysis is right on the money, but this latest frenzy surrounding the incoming Adminstration (they have been coming at a clip of about 2 per week--anyone still remember the Rick Warren flap?) will be forgotten by Monday. Whatever bill passes will be a creature that the Congress and Administration craft together, so no use getting our pantyhose all twisted until it happens.

By the way, is Blago going to get fed through the IL state senate shredder next week or the following week? I have heard both.

zosima said...

"sherifffruitfly said...

Bullshit. There's only a finite amount of money."

Um no. In fact, right now it is just the opposite. Because short term interest rates are almost zero we can borrow money with almost no cost; leading to an almost infinite supply of money. While we may end up refinancing to a higher interest rate on our debt in the long run, this will be more than compensated for by higher returns on taxes from a recovered economy.

That said, the LP I provided did include a constraint on overall expenditures. That money is cheap wasn't the point.

p.s. There are some great online courses on economics that you can take for free from MIT's Open Courseware

"STepper said...

Is this klassic Keynes?"

I think that technically this is considered Neokeynesian. Without going into too many details, Neokeynesian economics often proscribes the same policies as Keynesian economics, but has a stronger basis in micro-economic theory. Neokeynesian economics treats shocks as a consequence of sticky prices and subrational policies in microeconomic models, whereas Keynesians treat shocks as an empirical fact derived from macroeconomic data.

Eric Eitreim said...

Several quick thoughts; 1. for many businesses that are in the red a tax cut is moot, no effect.
2. because of exemptions, credits, etc. many profitable corporations pay no income tax now so again corporate tax cut would have little effect. 3. Besides lucky you, who is worried about capital gains tax this year, not the Madoff investors or very many others? 4. I would think that with people scared, much of the personal tax credit would go to debt reduction on credit cards and bringing mortgages and auto loans current. Will the banks relend the money, it doesn't look like it? Apparently they are sitting on the TARP money, putting it into virtually zero rate Treasuries.

Long and the short of it, I can't see much multiplier at all from tax cuts.

Thrashers Recaps said...

lol, you can't spend your way out of a recession.

Opus 132 said...

@ Pragmatus

is Blago going to get fed through the IL state senate shredder next week or the following week? I have heard both.

Neither.The trial is currently scheduled to begin Jan.26.

Scott said...

"lol, you can't spend your way out of a recession."

That's exactly what we did in World War 2.

zosima said...

"Eric Eitreim said...

Several quick thoughts; 1. for many businesses that are in the red a tax cut is moot, no effect. "

Actually, The tax rates can go negative and it is not too uncommon for businesses to have a negative effective tax rate. So tax reductions, if properly structured, can even subsidize unprofitable businesses.

Ezzie said...

@Eric,

The plan involves letting companies carry back losses from this year, count them against prior years' taxes, and get a retroactive refund.

Cugel said...

Cutting corporate or capital gains taxes will have ZERO stimulative effect because companies have massive capital LOSSES to offset gains right now. How many companies are showing gains this quarter?

Personal income tax cuts only have a stimulative effect at the lower tax brackets because people who don't have a lot of money are forced to spend whatever money they get -- they don't save.

It's the rich who save and invest, so cutting their taxes in a time of profits (income, capital gains) causes them to save more -- which caused the inflationary bubble that just burst).

But now it would have no effect whatever. If you've got massive capital losses (which everybody who invested in the stock market or real estate does), then those losses offset, so lowering the top marginal rates has no immediate effect at all.

Long term it just blows a bigger hole in the deficit.

Right now, no changes to the tax code are really needed. If Obama wants a middle class tax cut, fine, but it should be balanced by a tax increase on the upper brackets. (This WON'T be revenue neutral because the increase won't be felt for some time -- few people will actually EARN over $250,000 or have capital gains, so it won't matter (short term) what the rates are).

Mark A. Sadowski said...

Has anyone read the report? It is here:

http://otrans.3cdn.net/45593e8ecbd339d074_l3m6bt1te.pdf

Mark A. Sadowski said...

Here's the current stimulus Package as near as I can figure out.

Program Amount
Tax Cuts
Make Work Pay 140.00 Bonus Depreciation 140.00 Hiring Credit
40.00
Accelerated Writedowns
25.50
Increased EITC
2.60
Infrastructure
Green
114.00
Transportation
90.00
Non-Transportation
60.00
Other
Tranfers to States
120.00
Food Stamps
24.00
Extended Unemployment
20.00
Total 776.10

Mark A. Sadowski said...

Based on Mark Zandi's estimates I averaged the multiplier effect to 1.13. Mark Zandis' estimates are here:

http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2008/10/pocketfull_of_m.html

Steve said...

Another argument for govt spending at a time like this:

In a recession, the whole "private industry tends to be more efficient" is severely reduced by the government's relatively better ability to raise capital. Also, as counterintuitive as it sounds, government spending should peak in recessions and dip during surpluses. In a recession economy, the government has an advantage over the private sector in ability to raise capital, and wages are relatively low, so it gets more bang for the buck. In a surging economy, the government is less competitive at raising capital, and wages are higher, reducing the govt's return on investment.

zosima said...

I noticed that Obama doesn't include any military spending or space spending. I'm not a fan of the military, I'm actually just a bit shy of a pacifist, but if we're spending money just for the purpose of spending money, it probably couldn't hurt to buy a bunch of rockets,planes, humvees and tanks.

For space-exploration equipment, the case is even stronger. Lets spend a ton of money building new launch vehicles and building new satellites.

KQuark said...

One tax cut I don't why the Dems on the hill are whining about is the tax credit for new hiring. Obama needs to create jobs pure and simple and let's examine the effect of a new government job and a job resulting from a $3,000 tax credit private job for one year.

$30,000 public job

-$30,000 from the treasury + $5,000 to the treasury + $25,000 to the economy.

$30,000 private job

-$3,000 from the treasury one time + $5,000 to the treasury + $25,000 to the economy.

Anyone can see it's a bigger bang for the buck to create private jobs. It's a gift that keeps on giving on all sides while pubic jobs just keep on taking after their initial jolt to the economy. I know some ideologues on the left think all tax cuts for business are bad but in this case the numbers don't lie.

mhz said...

Aren't most/many/some of Obama "tax cuts" actually forms of "tax credits and tax refunds" that are inteneded to and can very effectively reverse some regressive taxes.

aisi-Most/many/some of the tax cuts are going to have the effect of giving money to struggling families and struggling local businesses. It could be an effective strategy to distribute the current government spending to people and ventures that do not have the resources to lobby inside the beltway.


If in fact these "tax cuts" could end up having a significant impact on several important goals:

1) keeping people/families in there homes owned or rented.

2) keeping people/families out of serious debt (food, housing, utility, and health is all domestic spending)

3) Keeping small locally owned businesses alive and staving off futher efforts to drive this "species" extinction.


4) Providing a very WIDE distribution of this Federal investment in the American People. Tax cut to the middle class and small businesses is nothing like tax breaks or capital gains from bloated stock portfolios, luxurious vacation homes, or blank checks to corroded financial institutions (ie TARP).

So yes 350 billion of TARP managed to dissappear into the asset profiles of the most wealthy American- But the 300 billion in SP tax cuts will not (imho). In fact they may provide much larger bang for the buck (ok multiplier) than anyone can foresee right now.

As BHO said- " we need to stabilize the patient" and right now this "patient" inludes lots of families and communities that could "go under" pretty and these "tax cuts" are likely to stave that of in many cases.


Nate- Please post on "Mr. Franken Goes to Washington" thanks.

Mrs B said...

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SarahLawrenceScott said...

Fascinating post, Nate.

You give a one-line mention to the normative aspects of tax cuts, but I think that combines with another factor: morale.

One of the mistakes, IMHO, that Bush made was to think that the goal of economic policy is to maximize GDP. If the median buying power drops, either through unemployment, underemployment, or inflation in expenditures that the middle and working classes make, people will correctly characterize the economy as bad, even if GDP is growing.

It's hard to make government purchases reach evenly through the economy. Maybe you can help the construction industry, for example, and thus certain kinds of blue collar jobs and the communities that thrive on them. But our economy is too diverse. You're going to miss big swaths of it--you may even exacerbate problems in some cases. What will green collar jobs do to people on the gulf coast who depend on the oil industry? It's not zero-sum; we gain more than we lose, but someone still loses.

For tax cuts, on the other hand, you know who gets them. Everyone who works feels like they're getting something. That's extremely important for the health of this economy.

Pragmatus said...

@KQuark...

Very good points, however there is another unconsidered variable. If the gov't offers a $3000 tax credit to businesses for each job created, that doesn't mean any jobs will automatically materialize. $3000 is a nice fat carrot but you have to consider the stick as well--how many businesses are going to be in a position to add workers in this time of severe cutbacks in consumer spending? I think the answer is very, very few.

However if the gov't creates a job then the $25,000 benefit you speak of will definitely go into the economy.

RivierRatt said...

@Mrs B

hey everyone, 538 is down to 58.9% of the vote at weblogawards.org best political coverage. Time to get voting!

I've voted three times so far. Gonna keep doing my part to keep the rout in place.

By the BTW: I was glad to see MR post his threat. I saw it and instantly thought, "He's outta here." (It takes a special kind of stupidity to go posting unvarnished threats online.)

wv: impoo: MR thinks, "I M Poo, so I can post any kind of Poo."

katiebegood said...

What we need to get out of the financial mess the Bush Crime Family has left us are good American jobs.

I have been asking conservatives on many blogs just exactly how tax cuts can create jobs. No one has been able to give me a good answer. Their fall back answer is the ole "trickle down" theory that has been proven to not work.

The economy isn't going to recover as long as we have so many people who are out of jobs. A tax cut means nothing to them since they don't have income to tax.

katiebegood said...


As I read him, he was fine with a substantial tax cut component, but the fight should be to shift the business tax cuts to personal tax cuts.


I am fine with business tax cuts as long as they are tied directly to the creation of a job and are not available to companies who pay no income tax.

There are a lot of small businesses out there who are on the verge of bankruptcy. They don't have the kind of cash reserves needed to weather a recession/depression. These are businesses like the local coffee shop or a small manufacturer.

These businesses need help and I have not problems with our government giving them the help they need.

Brian said...

Great work on the blog. You've kept the analysis interesting, informative and a part of my daily must read routine. This update in particular helps me really orient in a much stronger way to the debate that is about to ramp up in Washington. If only we could get this type of analysis to a wider audience!

capt said...

Great stuff. I can actually understand both sides better after reading your insights.

As always


Thanks

such sweet thunder said...

One thing you miss in your analysis, Nate, is that we don't have one economy, but a economy comprised of many different sections and subdivisions: construction; retail; finance; etc.

A tax cut to middle income families seems to me the only way to help retail, whereas it would make no difference in construction -- at least until the eventual trickling up, which would take a couple of years.

I view the stimulus as a stop-gap, a kick in the balls to holdover businesses until the economy starts functioning again. So it's an imperative to get things flowing in all industries.

Matt said...

Over what timeframe do the multipliers for personal and business tax cuts vary that widely?

I've always understood that "personal" tax cuts (at least personal income tax cuts) amount to not much more than shareholder tax cuts with a time lag. Wages and salaries are market-based and are keyed to the bottom-line rather than the top. If personal income tax were repealed tomorrow, then in a matter of years, we'd expect to see wages down-adjust so that take-home spending power ended up about equal, no?

Understand that there's an immediacy aspect, but how is that figured? Is this over some specific timeframe?

KevinF said...

I'm know very little about economic theory. But one thing I do remember is the concept that S=I; Savings equals Investment.

At the macro-est of levels, what is the difference between saying money is being "saved" vs. money is being "spent". Isn't all money essentially permanently spent in one way or another?

egapre said...

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