1.30.2009

Could Roland Burris Be Re-Elected?

As the world bids good riddance -- the only thing I'll say is that I had the good sense to vote for Judy Baar Topinka in 2006 -- the question naturally arises: Does Roland Burris have a political future beyond 2010? This is a really a three part question:

1) Will Burris run for re-election? This is perhaps the easiest question to answer: Hell Yes. If you're crazy enough to be Rod Blagojevich's appointee and endure the media sh*tstorm that ensues, it's a relatively save bet that you're going to run for re-election as an incumbent. Nor is the possibility or probability of a loss likely to be much of a deterrent, as Burris ran quixotic campaigns for governor on no fewer than three occasions (1994, 1998, 2002), never advancing past the primary, as well as for Mayor of Chicago in 1995.

2) Will he win the primary? This is probably Burris' biggest hurdle, but it is not impossible to imagine him advancing. A new Research 2000 poll for Daily Kos gives Burris a 26 plurality of the vote against potential Democratic opponents Jan Schakowsky (12 percent) and Alexi Giannoulias (11 percent). On the other hand, 26 percent is not terrific for a candidate with near-universal name recognition, whereas Schakowsky and Giannoulias are much less known.

One critical question is whether Illinois' major stakeholders, particularly Mayor Daley and the unions, might endorse someone other than Burris. And this seems unlikely: Burris' voting record is likely to be quite liberal/progressive, and both the mayor and the unions would risk angering their African-American constituents by trying to primary out Burris.

Still, in a head-to-head matchup against either Schakowsky or Giannoulias, both of whom are reasonably charismatic opponents, Burris' unfavorables could catch up with him, and he would probably be defeated. The question, perhaps, is whether Burris will have to face just one of Schakowsky or Giannoulias, or perhaps as many as 3-4 credible opponents. My guess is that Burris will have trouble topping out at more than about 35-40 percent of the vote, most of that coming from Illinois' substantial African-American population. But in a multi-way race, 35 or 40 percent is sometimes enough to win.

3) Would he win the general election? Here, the Research 2000 poll presents more unambiguously good news for Burris: he leads Republican Mark Kirk 37-30 in a head-to-head matchup. There are, obviously, a lot of undecided voters there, but Kirk is well known among Illinoisans (78 percent of respondents were able to record an opinion about him) and not all that well liked (41 percent view him unfavorably) so the usual excuses about name recognition don't fly. Furthermore, it seems plausible that Burris' favorables are liable to improve as the circumstances surrounding his appointment fade from memory and he becomes more of a mundane, generic Democrat. Illinoisans tend to be a forgiving lot.

This is not to say that Kirk -- or another Republican like Peter Roskam -- wouldn't have a chance of unseating Burris. Depending on how much money the Republicans might throw into the race, they might have a pretty good chance. But the Republican brand in Illinois is every bit as damaged as the Democratic one (the most recent Republican governor now makes his home at the Federal Correctional Institution in Terre Haute, Indiana) and it's unlikely that they'd be the favorite.

70 comments

MN said...

Giannoulias is an Obama basketball buddy. That is going to huge.

John Galt said...

I think Nate is lying. There's no way he voted for a Republican (Topinka).

Evan said...

Wow, Nate Silver voted for a Republican in 2006! Of course, since the Democrat was Roddy Blago, I can't say it was a bad idea....

Nuckles87 said...

Of course not. there are a lot of questions to ask.

Eli Blake said...

It really comes down to Burris in the Senate.

If he is still only known next year as Blago's pick, that won't be good. But he's got two years to make his own name in the Senate, sponsor legislation and look after the hometown (and perhaps more importantly, home-state) folks. How well he does at it will make a huge difference.

Jack said...

The FAQs indicated (not sure if it still says so) that Nate cast a Republican ballot for governor in 2006.

The analysis over all makes sense - one thing I'd like to add to point 1, which was implied but perhaps not stated explicitly, is that he'd have a better chance a primary in, say, a Burris-Schakowski-Giannoulas-Duckworth primary, where's he's the only black candidate, as opposed to a primary where, say, Davis or Jackson ran.

Backdated said...

What about another African American Dem candidate?

Andrea said...

I want Jan Schakowsky to be my senator. She is my congresswoman right now and I've been very impressed with her.

I'm a Jan fan!

Ted Vessenes said...

If Republicans can vote for Obama, I don't see why Democrats can't have voted for Topinka. Politics should be about the particular ideological positions of the candidate more than their party affiliation.

Paul said...

FYI: "Judy Baar Topinka" not "Judy Barr Topinka"

skyewriter said...

Two thoughts (since I neighbor IL and have lots of family from all over that state):

1. Schakowsky was frequently interviewed during the campaign on national cable news networks. I think she may not have a more visible profile than Burris, but I think people would recognize her if they watched any news (other than Fox) between September-November 2008.

2. The majority of my family in IL is Republican (but I love them anyway). What I am hearing from them is a lot of backlash against the Dems. because of Blago. But there seems to be a lot of confusion, too, because Ryan (R) was just as corrupt (if not more so).

It will be interesting to see what happens. And I know you'll follow it closely for us, Nate.
Thanks!

JMNorris said...

When Nixon was in trouble as pres., many were shocked at what a crook he was. Still living in IL at the time, I was shocked at what an amateur he was. Now Blago has put on a great show and demonstrated what an amateur Reid is. Although I haven't lived there in a gazillion years, I take a perverse pride in my home state's crooked politicians. Oh, I'm happy to see them caught and sent to the Club Fed, but I still feel a twinge of not-so-honorable pride when I see the home team showing the rest of the country how it's done.

Tracy said...

"the only thing I'll say is that I had the good sense to vote for Judy Barr Topinka in 2006"

Hell, I had the better sense to not vote for guv at all in 06.

RufusRules said...

Illinoisans tend to be a forgiving lot.

That may be the understatement of the year.

Blame said...

Whats all this about angering AA's?

I can't see it myself. They have the Presidency. They must have every last post or they riot? Or, worse, are you sugesting they will vote Republican out of spite?

There are valid reasons for giving Burris a stiff run in the primaries and they are simple enough for anybody to grasp. He took his apointment from a crook.

A dodgy Black candidate is no more certain to pull in the black votes than Palin was a magnet for women's votes.

Burris has 2 years to make good, and then we will see.

loomisnews said...

These situations are tailor made for parties to eat their own in a violent spasm.

I'd think the only sure bet is that Burris will run for a full term. he has nothing to lose.

But at least Blago has left the building

dunkel-mentat said...

You know what, Nate? I voted for Blago in '06 and I wouldn't change it now. With Blago out we've still got a Democratic Governor in Pat Quinn. The only campaign commercial Blago put out that I can still remember was basically: "I may suck, it's true, but at least I'm not Judy Barr Topinka." I couldn't argue with that.

As for 2010, I'm a big Jan Schakowsky supporter. I grew up in her district (now I live in Rahm Emanuel's old district) and she's a strong progressive. Hell, my mom knows her.

Joe Kowalski said...

Here we are 2 years before there is a strongly contested (if not open) senate race and we think these numbers should mean something? Mark Blumenthal wrote a fascinating piece a few weeks ago reminiscing about a poll he took in 2002 looking ahead to the 2004 Illinois Senate race. The polling results for our new president:
"The survey we fielded a few weeks later showed that just 4% of likely general election voters had a favorable impression of Obama, while 5% rated him unfavorably. Nearly four out of five (79%) had never heard of Obama. He did a little better among likely Democratic primary voters -- 11% favorable, 6% unfavorable -- but still ran far behind, winning just 6% of the vote, in a five-candidate primary matchup that also featured former Senator Carol Moseley Braun. Obama did a little better (rising to 12%) when we omitted Braun, but Obama still ran far behind state Comptroller Dan Hynes (with 34%)."

While I doubt another Obama class politician will arise in Illinois in the next couple of years, it goes to show that A LOT can change in a couple of years.

Pragmatus said...

I just have to pass this along. From the too, too funny file, this blog entry (in part) by real satire on DK...

Both House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Hair Club President Rod Blagojevich were released from hospitals today, and both are apparently doing fine.

Doctors in Illinois reported that all precautionary x-rays taken of Blagojevich after he was struck by approximately 14 of the more than 40 shoes thrown at him by members of the Illinois State Senate after his speech Thursday were negative.

Pelosi was released from Georgetown Medical Center after toxicology tests ordered when she reportedly hugged House Minority Leader John Boehner at a White House cocktail party Wednesday night also proved negative. Doctors report that Pelosi is in excellent health and fine spirits after undergoing what they described as a "routine delousing".

Davy said...

I can't pretend to speak for Illinoisans but personally, I'd be a bit miffed over Burris' illegitimate appointment. Sad thing is that Davis was the first (and far more qualified) pick but he did the honourable thing and declined the appointment. Burris has always been a lackluster bridesmaid. The only thing that seems to be a virtue is that he didn't screw anything up too badly. Well, there was that wrongful death row thing.

I guess he could surprise me over the next two years so I will agree to withhold judgement for a while. I still think the voters will be trying to wash the Blago stain off when elections roll around and vote Burris out. Burris seems as narcissistic as the former governor F-bomb. I personally hope Davis runs.

Jason said...

I'm not crazy about Schakowsky, but I look forward to voting against Burris with relish. Mark Kirk is obviously a buffoon (somehow even more of a buffoon than Burris) and will lose handily to anyone.

Giannoulias seems all right and he could probably beat Burris in the primary; so could my own congressman, Luis Gutierrez. I think we badly need to get some state-level Hispanic candidates in the running.

John Galt said...

They must have every last post or they riot?

Indirectly related but see: the NFL, NBA, NCAA basketball, and NCAA football.

Despite controlling overwhelming majorities of each sports category, and being very disproportionate and out of balance (in their favor!) with the overall population demographics (and even the demographics of 18-35 year olds), there is still the constant clamor and bitching about there not being enough minority (read: black) coaches in those ranks.

I'm all for providing opportunities, and maybe some additional ones to underprivileged minorities, but these unfounded and relentless attacks that try to evoke "white guilt" just sicken me.

PorridgeGun said...

NO.


Alexi Giannoulias seems promising. Personally, I like to see Schakowsky get the seat, then vacate the seat for Michelle Obama to run in 2016. If, on the other hand, the First Lady has no ambitions for higher office, it should be either Giannoulias or Jesse Jackson Jr.


I'm reading more speculation that New Hampshire's Democratic Governor may appoint a wingnut to replace Judd Gregg. If that's the case, Obama would be off his nut to pick Gregg. Instead he should pick a minority, preferably a gay or lesbian. The only reason the liberal blogs are even onboard with an appointment like this is because it'll get the Dems 60 seats.

Kennyb said...

Excuse me, but how is the fact that there are lots of black players in a sport but few coaches of color SUPPORTIVE of your argument, John Galt? You'd think that the opposite would be true. After all, until relatively recently, hockey was full of French Canadians, and so were its coaching ranks and so was were the positions of power in the NHL.

Forgive me if I conclude that you are an ideologue for whom every set of facts supports your conclusions.

Kennyb said...

PG, it may well be that any Republican is a wingnut to you, but several of them up here in New Hampshire are reasonable people further to the left of many Democrats in the deep south.

Kennyb said...

Hey, Davy, how hard to you think Davis is kicking himself now?

mhz said...

Hey Nate-

Now how about an update on the election contest in MN?


wv-coote Burris will have at least one big coote in 2010- and it will be the size of a blago ball.

Joe The Fake Virginian said...

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Tom said...

I would love to see Jan as Senator!

Greg said...

I agree with what Kennyb said. The proportion of minority coaches should be roughly equivalent to the proportion of players.

This is also why I think that the fact that their aren't that many minorities in politics isn't something we need to actively fix. Certainly it would be preferred if the number of minorities in Congress matched the demographics of the whole population, but if only white men are running, then we shouldn't be voting for the minority candidates just for the sake of diversity.

RivierRatt said...

@Joe Kowalski:

"Here we are 2 years before there is a strongly contested (if not open) senate race and we think these numbers should mean something?"

It's more like 1 year. We're at the end of Jan., 2009; by this time next year, the race for most open and contested Senate seats will have begun.

wv: allin: Who's allin for Burris?

Josh said...

I second what Eli B. said: if Burriss can make a name for himself in the Senate, it will go a long way towards absolving him of the Blago stain.
BUT I don't foresee a very friendly Senate for him and I doubt seriously that he will be asked or allowed to sponsor any bills or be asked to take any high-profile position in the caucus.
In other words, I think the Senate views Burriss as just as much of a jerkoff as most people I know in Chicago.
My guess is he loses in the primary and also, yes, Daley and the rest throw in with somebody less divisive.

John Galt said...

Michael Steele Wins RNC Chairmanship Race

Maybe the Republicans re-inventing themselves has already begun.

@Kennyb and Greg,

I shouldn't have even brought it up, and it's certainly a completely different topic. This statement, however, is a bit reckless and I'd wonder how he came up with such an assertion:

I agree with what Kennyb said. The proportion of minority coaches should be roughly equivalent to the proportion of players.

I disagree. I think the proportion of minority coaches should have little to do with the proportion of minority players. One requires running a 4.4 40-yard dash, hitting 40% of your 3-point shots with defenders in your face, slapping a 95 mph fastball into the gap, and all of the other "things" athletes do to excel at a sport.

Coaching involves complex strategies, in many cases, and often demands a heightened business and financial sense. A coach also must be a disciplined leader and communicator, excelling in speech and having a psychological edge to help him bring a plan of action to fruition through cohesion from various differing parts. Many coaches have degrees (advanced in some cases) that reflect this intellect, or brains over braun if you will.

The athlete mostly just needs the braun...although an ounce of brains doesn't hurt and is usually a characteristic of the finest athletes, but even then it's a different kind of "smarts."

We could argue and debate this discussion till we're blue in the face, but I maintain that the proportion of minority coaches should in no way be impacted (or very little, at most) by the proportion of minority players.

Case in point: Michael Crabtree is a tremendous athlete. So much so that he is forgoing two years of college to play pro football as a wide receiver. No arguing his athletic talents, but what about his leadership? Academics? They're obviously taking a back seat so he can focus on what he's good at. So what makes him more qualified than a white candidate to coach down the road, once his playing days are through, just because he could run faster, catch more balls, and score more touchdowns. Again, the correlation between the two is weak at best. Doing does not qualify you as being able to guide others to do.

Of course, you'll probably just come back with "you're a racist" because you can't come up with any other intelligent response as to why this is the case.

David said...

21 months before the last presidential election, Hillary and 9/11 Guiliani were seen as all but shoe-ins for the nomination.

The only thing that will matter for his re-election prospectus is how he conducts himself and his voting record. 2 years from now Blago will be a dim memory.

Overreaching like this isn't going to help you.

51st Ward Precinct Captain said...

@ Rivier: I'll go you one better --the '10 senatorial and gubernatorial primary campaigns will begin in earnest right after Labor Day weekend, and there'll be plenty of how-do-you-do campaigning on the county fair circuit over the coming summer as well. The way I figure it, we're in the midst of but a brief lull in what has become a perpetual campaign season (and it explains in part why Jeb decided not to run for senator from Florida in '10, only to win and turn around and declare his candidacy for President five weeks after getting sworn in --if, that is, he had designs on running in '12).

Shocked to see Nate confessing to having voted for Judy Baaaaaaaar Topinka in the '06 general (although I'm grateful to the lady for keeping an eye on my unclaimed property in state custody --Illy residents check CashDash to see if the aforementioned current state treasurer, Alexi Giannoulias, is holding anything of yours).

As was true of George Ryan in the general election for governor in '98, we all knew --or should have known-- that Rod was headed for the legal rocks, sooner or later, by the time the '06 gubernatorial primary rolled around, which is why I voted for Ed Eisendrath at the time and later voted Green in the general (knowing that Rod would beat Judy but hoping to see him held under 50 percent; result!).

Anyway, if Roland tries to hold onto his senate seat, his last three runs for the Democratic nomination for governor strongly suggest that he'll struggle mightily both downstate and in white and Latino areas of the city and suburban Cook County, the latter of which didn't all of a sudden become more enlightened when Barack ran exceptionally well in the senatorial primary of '04; it's just that Obama was an outstanding candidate in the same areas where, two years earlier and in failed campaigns before then, Burris was anything but.

The key to this well may prove to be downstate, where I've got to believe that a sentiment of "turn the crooked city slickers out!" is bubbling up, and it'll be expressed in the general election for certain and perhaps in the primary as well.

It's where Democratic U.S. Rep. Glenn Poshard piled up the votes that he needed to beat Roland in the four-way gubernatorial primary of '98, and Rod's father-in-law Dick Mell got downstate county party chairmen lined up for Blago in advance of the three-way '02 primary.

If downstaters select Democratic primary ballots in large numbers in 2010, a solid downstate Democrat in something akin to the Glenn Poshard mold (or perhaps somebody more like a Dick Durbin) would stand a real chance in a multi-sided primary fight involving two or more candidates hailing from the city and environs --which wouldn't be welcome news to candidates such as Burris, Schakowsky, Giannoulias et al.

Of course, much of the shape of the senate battle is going to depend upon who decides to run for governor (Pat Quinn to fight to keep the seat?; Lisa Madigan?) and who opts instead to run for senator --it's all going to be plenty fascinating, and it all starts with the the men now in those seats declaring their intentions one way or the other for the next election. Keep your eyes glued to Illy, folks, and expect things to start moving before too terribly long.

@ loomis: I used to work with you @ the SSRI dude lol

David said...

It's more like 1 year. We're at the end of Jan., 2009; by this time next year, the race for most open and contested Senate seats will have begun.

At least in Washington State, senatorial, and congressional campaigns don't really start until summer.

From what I have seen, only the presidential race starts so bloody early.

At the rate it is going, the 2016 presidential campaigns will start in 2011, with Inauguration day in 2013 being the start of the 2020 campaign. :)

Eric said...

Here's an interesting development in the race for the RNC chairmanship.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/ap_on_el_ge/republicans

Michael Steele has been elected chairman. He is a moderate from Maryland, and an African-American to boot.

From his acceptance speech "...and for those who wish to obstruct, get ready to get knocked over."

It should be interesting to see what the repurcussions of this are in the GOP. Does this mean the Southern Strategy is officially DOA?

Michael (mbw) said...

@ Davy- Davis isn't so hot. He played the lead role in the (literal) coronation ceremony for Rev. Moon. That's either corrupt or dumb or both.

@porridgegun- Enough with the royal families already. Please, Michelle has never expressed any interest in any public office. Why would Schakowsky step aside after one term? As for Jackson, his general record in the House and his public statements look good, but unless something changes in the evidence he'll have a huge disadvantage as "candidate #5" associated with a corrupt offer. Before that, he was my second choice, but I wonder if Obama knew something in leaving him off his short list, which included Jarrett, Schakowsky, Hynes, Madigan and Duckworth.

John Galt said...

It should be interesting to see what the repurcussions of this are in the GOP. Does this mean the Southern Strategy is officially DOA?

Not quite, although it does put a dent in what has become the rallying cry of libs that Repubs are the "angry white man" party.

Then again, I don't see blacks flocking to the GOP en masse.

Mike in Maryland said...

Josh said...
. . . I doubt seriously that [Burris] will be asked or allowed to sponsor any bills or be asked to take any high-profile position in the caucus.

ANY member of Congress can sponsor a bill. The question is how many will sign on as co-sponsors. In fact, any member of Congress can take any other member's bill, sponsor it themselves without changing a word and thus shut out the other member's bill. The key, though, is if/when the bill is submitted to committee, and what happens to that bill in committee. Most bills without support (i.e., enough co-sponsors) almost always get buried in committee - no action is taken. Or the bills get killed in committee to decrease the influence of that member and/or segment of the chamber.

As to high-profile positions, there are very few freshmen members of the House or Senate who get high-profile positions of any kind. There have to be exceptional circumstances and reasons for that to happen, and those circumstances and/or reasons are definitely NOT the case with Burris.

Mike in Maryland said...

Eric said...
Michael Steele . . . is a moderate . . . Does this mean the Southern Strategy is officially DOA?

Steele WANTS everyone to think he is a 'moderate', but he definitely is not. He is an almost extreme (even by GOOPer standards) social conservative. As such, since a large portion of the GOOPer 'Southern Strategy' is religious based (thus social conservative), I think it just reinforces the GOOPer 'Southern Strategy'.

He's already been (falsely) PRed as a "Northeast moderate Republican" on MSNBC. Most native Marylanders would consider the state of Maryland being called a 'Northeast state' to be fighting words.

icebergslim said...

So, what Giannoulis plays b-ball with the Prez, he won't get involved in a primary fight.

One thing Burris has going is NAME RECOGNITION. The others don't have that. If Burris does a solid job and it seems that the senior senators on the hill are helping him out tremendously in that area, then hey, he possibly could win, especially if there are a zillion folks lined up for the nomination.

One thing about Schiakowsky, her husband did federal time for some check kiting gig, after all we went through with Blago, that could be a hindrance on her down the road.

Statler N Waldorf said...

Burris' only hope is that Illinoisans will forget who Blago was within 2 years. Odds are... they probably won't.

If he becomes the end all be all of Senators in less than two years, he will still have to face the attack ads "Exactly how much did Roland Burris pay for his Senate seat?"

Maybe they will even play Blago's voice in the ad, stating that the Senate seat is fucking gold, and he won't just give it away for appreciation.

I just don't see how he's going to counter that.

If he opts not to run in 2010, maybe a Democrat can recapture the seat. I seriously doubt he will.

For the record, I don't think Burris has done anything unethical or paid for the seat. Unfortunately, I'm not an Illinois voter, so it doesn't matter that I think he's honest. The perception of guilt is all around him, and I doubt the truth even matters.

icebergslim said...

Ummm, Nate is probably not lying about Topinka. I have written, repeatedly, if she has more MONEY than Blago and her campaign run tighter, she could have won in 2006. And I know a lot of Dems that voted but left Blago blank.

Michael said...

John Galt said:

it does put a dent in what has become the rallying cry of libs that Repubs are the "angry white man" party.

Right. The meme will be that Steele is the token black face of a pretty racist party. It's amazing that the other finalists seem to have all been not merely whites but white racists. Which helps to explain why the rest of your comment is true:

I don't see blacks flocking to the GOP en masse.

nkpolitics1279 said...

Now that Pat Quinn is Governor of Illinios and likely to run for a full term in 2010. Any chance Lisa Madigan runs for the US Senate against Burris- This forces Schakowsky to run for re-election to her US House seat. and Giannoulous to seek re-election as Treasurer or run for Lt Governor. Hynes runs for Lt Governor or Attorney General. Jesse White runs one more time for re-election as Secretary of State.

2010 IL Democratic ticket
US Senate- Lisa Madigan(D)
Governor- Pat Quinn(D)
Lt Governor- Alexi Giannoulous(D)
Attorney General-Dan Hynes-(D)
Secretary of State- Jesse White(D)
Comptroller- OPEN
Treasurer- OPEN.

PeixeGato said...

I agree that Burris' fate is in his own hands. But my question is what can a Freshman Senator realistically accomplish in his first 2 years? I thought that the Freshmen were more or less resigned to taking a back seat, keeping a low profile, not rocking the boat, and "learning the ropes", especially in their first couple of years of their first term. Burris is in the tough position of having to run again after just 2 years in office.

Can anyone clarify this for me?

Gen Sherman said...

Just hold-on one cotton pickin' minute there.

I can't believe no one has mentioned anything about John Galt's comments at 4:17. I know he probably did not intend to imply blacks and other minorities are not capable of taking on a position of leadership, i.e. coaching; because they lack a different kind of smarts (at least I hope).

John Galt, be more careful of the words you choose. Some people might find that other people who infer blacks are more apt for physical labor while whites are more suited for mental intense situations as RACIST!

Cugel said...

According to the Hill,Republicans Say Gregg "Won't Give Dems 60", Gregg will ONLY accept a nomination as Commerce Secretary IF: Gov. Lynch (D) agrees to appoint a Republican.

Sources "close to" the Senator say he's close friends with Mitch McConnell “It would not only enrage Republicans at home, it would Republicans nationally. Think about when [former GOP senator-turned independent] Jim Jeffords [Vt.] switched sides. It creates huge problems within the Senate Republican caucus.”

It is now considered wildly unlikely that Gregg would accept the Cabinet appointment.

1. Lynch would come under intense fire from Democrats for appointing a Republican.

2. Gregg would receive criticism for abandoning the party in difficult times.

"Cullen also dismissed speculation that Lynch is working on a deal to replace Gregg with a Republican.

“I almost dismiss the idea of a deal out of hand,” said Cullen. “It’s politically unrealistic. John Lynch likes to avoid controversy and making enemies.

Appointing a Republican would enrage New Hampshire Democrats.”


Thus, the smart money is saying that Gregg will refuse the appointment.

However, it could still pay dividends.

1. It helps Obama portray a "bi-partisan" image -- for the idiots in the national media who are obsessed with that.

2. Just the possibility of the appointment might make Gregg more inclined to work with Pres. Obama on economic matters in the Senate.

Mrs B said...

I've been away for a few days, glued to the uptake for the Coleman v Franken trial. Nate, you should post something about it - it has been a weird combination of paint drying and incompetence.
As for the GOP electing Steele, this smacks to me of the Palin pick. The Dems went for Obama over Hillary, so the GOP picked Palin to have a woman on the ticket - so there, Dems, who is the all-inclusive party now? And they expected all the women to vote for them.
Now they pick Steele, because, well, Obama is popular, and he's black. And they expect all the non-whites to start voting GOP.

wv fismsysi - couldn't have put it better myself.

Colby said...

I can't imagine that we're going to forget Blago by 2010. Hell, he won his re-elect by running against the PREVIOUS governor. And his criminal trial could well be going on then.

Burris' best bet is two-tiered- one, in the Senate, he should saddle up to a power broker and make some populist speeches/bills. Think of Claire McCaskill- even if the bills go nowhere, he'd still get positive media attention.

Second, at home, let the machine know you're on it's side (maybe demogogue a CTA or Olympics issue), and remind everyone else, as often as he can, that he was born and raised in Centralia. Centralia oughtta be his first stop every time he comes back to the state. Hell, he oughtta have a constituent office AND his campain HQ there.

I have my doubts that he's going to do either one- I don't see him wanting to put in the work, really. But it's probably his best chance to win.

Mrs B said...

having read my own last comment, I realise it may sound a little racist. It was meant to be attacking GOP cynicism: that they went for the Republican who looked more like Obama, in order to try and get over the problem that everyone thinks the GOP don't like blacks.
I know next to nothing about Steele as an individual and have no reason to suppose he would be any less capable of doing the job than the next man (or woman).
The only thing I know about any of the candidates is that one of them sent round copies of that anti-Obama song. In the end even the GOP realised they couldn't pick him!

Joe The Fake Virginian said...

General Sherman

The rule is that we do not feed the trolls.

Engaging those that seek to provoke only encourages them.

Yawning makes them disappear, usually after a last little fit of impotent rage on their parts.

dbrodbeck said...

French Canadians never controlled the NHL, see the Richard Riot for example. They have certainly contributed a great deal on the ice, but not so much in the coaching ranks or especially management.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion thread...

KYJurisDoctor said...

While I wish Michael Steele good luck in his new position, I see his selection as a ploy for the GOP to make Blacks and other minorities feel like the party is suddenly pro minorities and anti racists.

Please color me "UNIMPRESSED".

Until the party adopts SUBSTANTIVE steps rather SYMBOLIC ones to address its INHERENT problems, it might as well be whistling DIXIE! OsiSpeaks[dot]com

loomisnews said...

The real question -- will Speaker Mike Madigan run Atty. Genl Lisa Madigan against Quinn?

Will the Daily faction run one of their stooges -- da mare has plenty of former chiefs of staffs to put someone up. Some of them are delusional enough to think they have political viability outside of their connection to Daly.

Or will Quinn prove he can deal with the devil(s) enough & be neutral between these factions, so that Madigan & Daley wait until it's an open seat or has a Republican incumbent to run against?

goethean said...

> This is not to say that Kirk --
> or another Republican like Peter
> Roskam -- wouldn't have a chance
> of unseating Burris.

I'll never understand how a smarmy, seterotypical trial lawyer, right-wing piece of shit like Peter Roskam can get people to vote for him over good conservative Dem candidates like Duckworth and Morganthaler. Can someone explain the appeal that this guy holds for people? He doesn't have a moderate bone in his body. I would be extremely shocked if he were to win a U.S. Senate seat. But I guess if Bush/Cheney can win twice, anything can happen.

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@Mrs B (about Steele):

Your post did not seem to me at all racist. In fact, the same thing occurred to me. It reminded me of a scene in that Paul Newman flick, The Verdict.

Newman's plaintiff side in the upcoming trial had a medical testifier ready. The defense, a high-powered, expensive law firm, was conducting a pre-trial meeting. They were evaluating the testifier. Their expert was describing the results of their "opposition research:"
"He hasn't practiced medicine for years. He's basically a hired gun for any and all plainiffs.
"And...he's black."

The head of the expensive law firm responded, "Of course we won't use the fact that he's black." And then he nodded to one of his staff, "Find us a black lawyer."

It looked to me as though that was what the Republican Party was doing with Steele.

st paul sage said...

This one of those interesting strategy cases.

I mean Madigan is the strongest Democrat in Illinois and has planned to run for Gov for some time. But she could run for either seat and be the favorite at least in the primary. Assuming Madigan sticks with Gov, then we have a number of good candidates for Senate - Schakowsky, Hynes, Giannoulas that need to figure out who's in and who's out, knowing that if they all run, Burris probably wins.

Burris might be able to stay, but he'll have a tough primary and a tough general for 2 reasons:
1) he took the seat in a disgusting back-door deal
2) he's a boob.

Robby said...

Percentage of Division I college football coaches that are African-American: 2.5% (3 out of 119)

Percentage of the U.S. population that is African-American: 12.8%

Yes, Virginia, there is still some racism in American culture.

Oh, and for those of you whining about the other RNC chair candidates being white racists, go read about the guy Michael Steele beat.

lycius said...

Don't count out Lisa Madigan. She would be an awesome Senator, if she decides she doesn't want to be Gov. Likewise, she has a better reputation throughout the state.

Burris frakked up his name with the Black community by accepting Blago's appointment. He seemed opportunistic and flakey, and it's hard for me to believe that Blacks would be upset if the unions don't back him in the primary.

Also, suburbanites may have voted for Obama, but this doesn't mean they will turn around and support another Dem for the senate, if Burris survives the primary.

Patrick said...

Nate, Judy Barr was a female version of Ryan so if she was elected, she might be under indictment now. Thats the problem with IL politics both sides are corrupt as the day is long.

With IL being plus Democratic stronghold, even Burris has a good shot of winning if he wins the primary. I would guess the Unions and Mayor don't endorse anyone and let the race play it self out.

Patrick said...

Before Blagojevich was arrested, Burris actively sought the appointment and he said that he would not run in 2010 if appointed. I don't know why he would change his mind now, especially since his reputation has now been damaged by Blagojevich.

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Burris has no honor; he has revealed himself as a cynical politician with no goal other than his own political advancement. That is why he has relentlessly pursued public office in the face of impossible odds, that is why tried to put an innocent man to death (to benefit his own career), and that is why he took Blago's appointment when any decent person would have steered clear - and insisted on a special election. He succeeded in spinning a narrative that his qualifications were never in doubt and that his career is untainted - that the issues were all with Blago. Not so. In fact, in any open election, subject to any scrutiny, he'd have lost, and he knows it. He took his only chance, taint and all. In doing so he achieved more than he ever dreamed possible for himself and did extraordinary damage to the people he pretends to represent - utterly disenfranchising an entire state. He is as corrupt as Blago, and bought that seat at the price of his decency.

That we were denied the chance to vote for a good and decent - and very effective - politician like Jesse Jackson, Jr. is a damn shame. If we are denied that chance again in two years - simply because he is an incumbent - it will be criminal.

I'll work against Burris in two years.

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