12.09.2008

Illinois: What Happens Next

Reports are that the Illinois Legislature will meet in a special session ASAP, and call for a special election to be held sometime in early 2009 to fill the senate seat formerly held by Barack Obama. This is one way to sidestep the possibility that Rod Blagojevich will still try and appoint Obama's successor. Contrary to our earlier reporting, the Senate probably lacks the authority to reject Blagojevich's appointee outright (although it could feasibly try and expel him from the Senate). Assuming that the special election goes forward, here is a sense for the timing it might entail.

1. How long will it take to hold the Special Election?

When members of the House depart, they are routinely subject to special elections. Between the 109th and 110th Congresses, there was an average gap of 106 days between the departure of a sitting House member and the swearing in of his replacement following a Special Election. This gap, however, varied significantly from seat to seat, from a minimum of 19 days (Donna Edwards replacing Al Wynn in MD-4, whom she had already primaried out) to a maximum of 194 (Duke Cunningham's seat in CA-50). We exclude cases in which the state waited until the subsequent General Election to select a replacement, as happens occasionally.

The states generally have broad latitude for how they want to conduct their special elections. In some cases, the governor will call for nominations from each party, effectively bypassing the primary phase. In other cases, such as in California, candidates from all parties will compete in a "jungle primary", with a runoff to be held between the top two candidates if no candidate achieves 50 percent of the vote. In still others, of course, the state will hold both a special primary and a special general election; this is what happened in IL-14 after Dennis Hastert resigned, which required a total turnaround time of 106 days.

We don't know what Illinois will do, because it does not have a fast special elections law for Senate vacancies and will literally be writing the rules as it goes along. But with several viable candidates on either side it is safe to assume that the state will want to hold some kind of full-fledged primary, whether a standard-issue type like happened in IL-14 or, less likely, a jungle primary followed by a runoff.

A 106-day window from today would suggest that the vacancy could be filled by March 25. However, that average is taken from House vacancies rather than Seante vacancies, which are more consequential and arguably call for a longer campaign cycle. If I had to set an over-under, I would expect a special primary on or around Tuesday, March 10th, and a special general on or around Tuesday, April 20th.

Regardless of what happens in the special election, this seat will again be contested in 2010, when Barack Obama's first term was originally set to expire. Special elections do not reset a senator's clock.

2. What happens to the seat until the Special Election occurs?

Although vacancies in the Senate are usually filled by gubernatorial appointment until a special election can be held, this is not a requirement, and a couple of states in fact prohibit the practice. Oregon, for instance, which is one state that does not permit a gubernatorial appointment, had a vacancy that lasted for approximately four months between Bob Packwood's resignation and the swearing in of Ron Wyden after he won his special election.

Vacant seats are not accounted for in the denominator when calculating the three-fifths majority required for cloture (filibuster-breaking) motions. That is, in order to break a filibuster, the Democrats would require three-fifths of 99 votes rather than three-fifths of 100. Three-fifths of 99 is 59.4. I believe, however, that the Senate would round up to the nearest whole number rather than down, meaning that 60 votes would still be required for cloture. Effectively, then, a vacant seat would work against the Democrats, and so they have some incentive to avoid this.

The Senate is in a bit of a pickle if Blagojevich tries to appoint someone before he vacates the governor's office (and before any special election were held). It could conceivably try and expel Blagojevich's appointee, although Blagojevich could then simply appoint another candidate, starting the process over again.

If Blagojevich resigns or is impeached before the special election occurs, then Lieutenant Governor Pat Quinn might appoint a replacement (although he wouldn't have to); the Senate would presumably be happy enough to seat such an appointee. Who might Quinn appoint under such a scenario? Presumably, nobody who was on the Blagojevich short list would want to touch the position, feeling as though they now had to win the seat fair and square in the special election. However, Quinn does have a couple of interesting choices. Specifically, Illinois has five living ex-senators (not counting Barack Obama): Democrats Carol Moseley Braun, Alan Dixon, and Adlai Stevenson III, and Republicans Peter Fitzgerald and Chuck Percy. While Percy is now 89 years old, any one of the other four might restore some credibility to the position. Fitzgerald, of course, being a Republican, might seem the least likely alternative, but presuming that he was comfortable with serving for a couple of months and then bowing out for the winner of the special election, he might allow Quinn (and the rest of the Illinois Democrats) to build some goodwill.

50 comments

fred said...

First! Or is is tenth now that we have comment moderation?

Nate - haloscan.com for comment blocking!

crapo said...

Oh, crah-po! I do most heartily detest blog moderation!

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MNLatteLiberal said...

This whole Blago fiasco is stealing the spotlight from the MN Senatorial Saga. It is slipping from the news due to the lack of any new developments, and that's unfortunate. IMHO, we ought to keep it under our scrutiny and pressure.
Biasedly yours,

~ Latte

wv salize. Coleman's specialty.

Opus 132 said...

Something's wrong;unable to post on the previous thread for almost 2 hours.

corey :: yeroc.org said...

What a mess.

Long Island Democrat said...

Yes, the Senate rould round up. Cloture requires a minimum 3/5 of senators. 59.4 is less than 3/5 of 99. Therefore, 59.4 is not going to be enough to achieve cloture.

Jason L. Nellis said...

I would love to see Jan Schakowsky fill the Senate position - she's smart and well respected in Illinois, and doesn't come with the baggage of alot of possible seat-fillers.

Michael (mbw) said...

Nate- Have you flipped out? Appoint a Republican? Now?
Carol Moseley Braun? Who lost in disgrace after an abysmal term, getting involved with the Nigerian dictatorship?
Alan Dixon? An aged right-wing D?
OK, maybe Stevenson.

Quinn himself is very reputable. So appointing someone who then would run would not taint them. Go Schakowsky!

GayIthacan said...

First to call for Bloggo's impeachment?

Benjamin said...

First comment!

Seth said...

Thanks Nate.

Bob X said...

First! I've never gotten first!

I wonder if Blago will smear somebody he doesn't like, by nominating him now, making whoever he taps look bad? Is that too devious?

livemild said...

i wasnt aware there was an adlai stevenson III. must be the year for old political families to climb back in the saddle.

has anyone heard about the legal side of all this? could be me but dont prosecutors usually wait for money/gifts to change hands BEFORE bringing charges for a reason?

something about5 this makes me thinl that blago might get out of this with just an impeachment and maybe some lesser charge plea deal

STepper said...

In ome states the legislature cannot call itself back into special session? Can the Illinois' legislatures?

Also, if Balgo resigns would the new Governor be able to make an appointment? Would there still be a need for a special election?

I forsee an announcement from the arrogant Blagojevich saying that he was resigning to fight the charges. But he won't. He believes his own spin too much.

I sure hope this doesn't slow down Obama's legislation in Congress.

Benjamin said...

Can't say I like hearing that the Senate will likely round down the 3/5 majority clause for moving the previous question on votes. I'm already sick to my stomach in regards to how much fighting I imagine there's going to be once something like healthcare legislation crosses the floor.

randiego said...

It's not a case of rounding up, but the requirement would be to meet the 60% threshold. With 99 Senators it would still require 60 votes.

icebergslim said...

No candidate will accept Blago's appointment, NO CANDIDATE.

In fact, from the criminal complaint, Blago did interact with several candidates, I just hope they are not on tape in a compromising situation.

The right thing for Blago to do is resign, but he can't smell his ROSES just yet, but everyone else in Illinois DOES.

Look for a special election in 2009.

Tom said...

Actually, there are five living ex-Senators. Former Sen. Charles Percy (assuming his Wikipedia page is correct) is also still living, at 89 years old.

green libertarian said...

I agree with MN LatteLiberal, this damn story is overshadowing the important Senate story in MN!

Perennial Presidential candidate Adalai Stevens is still alive? Who knew?

Oh, Adalai the 3rd. Never mind.

Wow, Blago is beyond arrogant even by the insane Chicago standards. I think he must be seriously mentally ill, and WANTED to get busted.

John said...

Technically, Illinois has six living ex-Senators, although Chuck Percy's not in the greatest of health...

Hayford Peirce said...

Is it true that Nate, or some other kind spirit, has actually taken action to ban (or moderate) some of the more, shall we say, spirited, not to say, vulgar, homophobic, cretinous, and irrelevant commentators? If so, and I surely hope that this is the case, where are we apprised of his great news?

liberal_defender_of_freedom said...

Blagojevich should appoint Alan Keyes just for the laugh.

ZachTheBadger said...

The Democrats must be loath to leave that seat vacant until April or so, but the problem is there's no way Blago resigns - his power over that Senate seat is the last bargaining chip he has. The way his mind works, he probably thinks he can figure out a way to use it even now as a get out of jail free card. So the Democrats need him impeached and removed from office as quickly as possible so Pat Quinn can make an appointment. That puts the ball in the hands of outgoing state Senate President Emil Jones, who may or may not be 'Senate Candidate 5' named in the indictment. His quote that "the events this morning are shocking" ought to remind one of Claude Rains' Captain Renault character in 'Casablanca' Will he be willing to rush impeachment through this month without getting something in return? Otherwise, it will have to wait until the next session in January. The only other option is someone coming up with a legal argument to convince a court to rule that Pat Quinn is 'acting governor'. Would Illinois law permit an 'acting' governor to appoint a U.S. Senator?

Glenn said...

I'm from Illinois and I think they should appoint me. I was a political science minor at U of I and made pretty good grades. I was also in the Mock UN junior high.
I like politics and read a lot. Plus. I'm very photogenic. Please consider me.


wv: billesse What Hillary will be soon I think

Zack said...

Um, everyone is talking about a special session of the Illinois legislature to proceed with impeachment.

But don't such special sessions have to be called for by the governor?

SamuelAlito said...

Nate,

Maybe things don't work this way in Chicago, but if this sort of thing were going on in New York, the de facto frontrunner for the 2010 special election would be Patrick Fitzgerald. Here is someone who brought down the chief of staff to a Republican vice president, and turns around and brings down a corrupt Democratic governor. Any word on the street on Fitz for 2010? Doesn't seem that anyone wants him as AG. Would he even want it?

Justin said...

For the sake of argument, what happens is Blagojevich appoints himself at this juncture? Couldn't he claim immunity from prosecution until the end of the session on grounds that he is on Congressional business? I know that Congress would likely refuse to seat him, but the Adam Clayton Powell case suggests that the Congress's power here is not so clear cut. If a lawsuit is filed challenging the legality of him being blocked, would prosecutors have to wait to proceed with the corruption charges until it is cleared up?

MNLatteLiberal said...

to echo what liberal_defender_of_freedom said, I hope that Alan Keys is one of the guys on tape. I certainly hope it's not Jesse Jr. Keys has already made the big time in Borat's Excellent Adventure. In fact the Alan Keys interview was one of my personal favorite Sasha Baron Cohen pranks to date.

A bit off topic, but on pollster.com we had a beautiful Lazlo Toth-like parody during the pre-election season posting under the name of...get ready: alankeysisawesome. It was vintage stuff, Colbert would've been proud.

~Latte

IslandLiberal said...

For the sake of argument, if Blago appoints himself, and the Senate is unable to refuse to seat him (that's iffy), they could just expel him (there are no prescribed limits on that power) with a simple vote. At that point, it's in Quinn's court (or, by that point, probably the legislature's).

tkk13above said...

I loved Carol Moseley Braun when she ran for president. She was my top choice. I'd be happy with her as the pick...then again I don't live in IL so my opinion shouldn't matter in the slightest.

Can't they impeach Blagojevich so they don't have to wait for him to resign?

By the way, I hope this comment moderation causes people to stop doing the whole "first!" thing all of the time.

Edward G. Talbot said...

To follow up on what Island Liberal touched on - The Senate cannot refuse to seat hi. AdamB on dailykos posted the pertinent info in a front page article. The Powell vs. McCormick case in 1969 limited the power of the Senate to refuse to seat an appointed Senator. here's the case:

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0395_0486_ZS.html

Now, they can expel the appointee after already being seated. that requires a 2/3 vote, and I tend to think plays differently politically. Now if Blog appoints himself, well certainly I expect they'd expel in short order. Otherwise, it would require some serious bipartisnaship.

I suppose they could also ignore the SCOTUS precedent, but that seems very unlikely.

mea2214 said...

IMHO, Senate Candidate #5 is probably Emil Jones. Emil Jones was the State Senate President and just resigned his seat which he then gave to his son. Recently him and Blagojovich played ping pong with an ethics bill that both wanted killed -- and they were almost successful. Jones is a Blago supporter and, according to the complaint, Senate Candidate #5 would be the most likely to help Blagojevich raise funds. IMHO, Emil Jones would be my pick for the betting pool. I'm still trying to figure out who Fundraiser A or Individual 1 are though LOL!

What will be interesting is all the other politicians caught on wiretaps with Blagojevich. If Senate Candidate #5 is on tape making a deal like this then he belongs in prison as well. Get out your popcorn and enjoy the show watching how all this plays out. The Feds are going to have to build an entire prison wing to house all the guilty Illinois politicians that will ride Blagojevich's coattails.

PorridgeGun said...

Put Carol Mosely Braun in temporarally, then Jesse Jackson Jr. will win the special election and Lisa Madigan sweep in like a breath of fresh air and clean up the mess Blagos left. This will be forgotten about in a few months. This guy was an even bigger idiot than his predecessor.

IslandLiberal said...

It doesn't make much sense to me for Candidate 5 to be Emil Jones; Blago is under the impression that Obama doesn't want Candidate 5 to be in the Senate, but Jones was Obama's mentor in state government. Why would Blago think Obama was dead-set against Jones getting it? (now, if this crisis has told us anything, it's that Blago's thought process is seriously warped)

fred said...

Candidatre 5 is Jones or Jackson, and whoever it is has ended their career, amybe both have.

Good for Chicago! Canyou take Daley too?

Statler N Waldorf said...

I predict that candidate #5 is.....



This Guy


Go West, young man.....

PorridgeGun said...

SamuelAlito said...

Nate,

Maybe things don't work this way in Chicago, but if this sort of thing were going on in New York, the de facto frontrunner for the 2010 special election would be Patrick Fitzgerald. Here is someone who brought down the chief of staff to a Republican vice president, and turns around and brings down a corrupt Democratic governor. Any word on the street on Fitz for 2010? Doesn't seem that anyone wants him as AG. Would he even want it?




I wouldn't give Fitzgerald too much credit. The keystone cops could've nailed ass clowns like Scooter Libby and Blago. And anyway, for what he did, Libby pretty much recieved a slap on the wrist, and both Cheney and Rove got off scott free. That's the real scandal to have come from the Plame investigation. Patrick Fitzgerald is about as chickenshit as they come in that regard.

Jersey said...

Presumably, nobody who was on the Blagojevich short list would want to touch the position, feeling as though they now had to win the seat fair and square in the special election.

Talk me through on this. Wouldn't incumbency still be the short path to (re-)election? Presuming the temporary appointment wasn't by Blago, of course, that'd be poison.

NotJamesMadison said...

Getting the law changed to provide for a special election for Illinois’ vacant Senate seat may not be so easy.

The Illinois constitution specifies that “The General Assembly shall provide by law for a uniform effective date for laws passed prior to June 1 of a calendar year. The General Assembly may provide for a different effective date in any law passed prior to June 1. A bill passed after May 31 shall not become effective prior to June 1 of the next calendar year unless the General Assembly by the vote of three-fifths of the members elected to each house provides for an earlier effective date.” (Article IV, section 10)

Even if the Illinois legislature can get its act together and pass a bill by the end of the year Blago can still sit on it for 60 days! The Illinois constitution allows a Governor to sit on a bill for 60 days before he signs it, vetoes it or allows it to become law without his signature. (Article IV sect. 9)

The 17th amendment introduced a subtle change to the ways that states can fill Senate vacancies. Prior to the 17th amendment the U.S. Constitution directly empowered a governor to fill a Senate vacancy with a temporary appointment “during the recess of the legislature … until the next meeting of the legislature, which shall then fill such vacanc[y].” The 17th amendment changed that. A governor’s power to make fill a Senate vacancy now depends on the state legislature. “[T]he legislature of any state may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.”

Illinois, New York, and Delaware statutes (among others) all specify that a temporary appointment to fill a Senate vacancy serves until at least the next congressional election. The people of these states now face the prospect of having an unelected Senator serve for nearly two years. It’s time for these states and others to amend their statute books so that special elections following Senate vacancies happen sooner rather than later.

Fonical said...

Oregon governors actually DO have the power to appoint a replacement senator, but state law requires that the appointee be from the same party as vacated member. When Republican Senator Bob Packwood resigned, Governor Kitzhaber chose not to name another Republican to replace him. He instead called a special election in which Democrat Ron Wyden defeated Gordon Smith in Oregon's first Federal election conducted solely by mail.

polls_apart said...

@Nate Silver:
There is no denominator in the fraction required for cloture, because there is no fraction! It is not 3/5! The number required for cloture is 60 votes, period! Before the rule was changed in the min-1970's, the fraction was 2/3 of those present and voting.

loomisnews said...

What won't happen is anyone doing anything about the campaign financing that's at the root of this problem.

Both Ryan & Blago put the squeeze on people, not just for their own personal gain (tho they did do that), but mostly to gain the campaign funds to build up huge war chests.

http://loomisnews.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/illinois-just-because-corruption-is-illegal/

Helanren said...

@ polls_apart (.....The number required for cloture is 60 votes, period! Before the rule was changed in the min-1970's, the fraction was 2/3 of those present and voting....)

According to Wikipedia's article on cloture, 'the new rule also changed the requirement for determining the number of votes needed for a cloture motion's passage from those Senators "present and voting" to those Senators "duly chosen and sworn"', meaning that in a 'normal' Senate '60 votes period' are required regardless of how many votes are cast.

Until Senator #100 has been duly sworn in however, it seems to me that brings us back to Nate's 59.4 votes.

Of course, for all practical purposes, 59.4 still equals 60...

father_of_s said...

Nate is not quite correct when he says "In other cases, such as in California, candidates from all parties will compete in a 'jungle primary', with a runoff to be held between the top two candidates if no candidate achieves 50 percent of the vote", at least as far as California is concerned.

While it is true that California does use a blanket primary (all candidates are on a single ballot, irrespective of party affiliation) in special elections to fill vacancies, and if one candidate receives a majority (50% + 1) of the vote that candidate is elected, it is not true that, if no candidate receives a majority, the top two candidates face each other in a runoff. In California, in the special general election (as the runoff is called), the top vote-getter from each party goes onto the runoff ballot. Whoever gets the most votes in that runoff election, even if it isn't a majority, is the winner.

piranha said...

as NotJamesMadison explained, a special election alone gives us nothing regarding getting rid of blago, since he can still sit on that for longer than impeachment would take.

i think that's still the fastest way to get rid of him. i would imagine that nobody whom he appointed would actually say "yes!" at this point in time, since they'd be completely tainted. apparently there might be a way to have the illinois supremes remove blago; at least AG lisa madigan seems to think so.

i also think appointment by quinn would be a bad idea if he picks somebody who was also on blago's list, there's the taint, but it also appears unfair to not pick one of them. so, either impeachment or supreme court action and _then_ a special election to fill the senate seat; that seems to me the cleanest option.

wv: fertiff -- blago was clearly not furtive enough.

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