With fewer than six hours until voting begins in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire, the national polling picture has cleared up considerably. Barack Obama is on the verge of a victory, perhaps a decisive victory, in the race for the White House.
The national polls have all consolidated into a range of roughly Obama +7. That is right about where our model sees the race as well, giving Obama a 6.8 point advantage in its composite of state and national polling. Our model notes, however, that candidates with large leads in the polls have had some tendency to underperform marginally on election day, and so projects an Obama win of 6.0 points tomorrow.
Far more important, of course, is the race for 270 electors. It appears almost certain that Obama will capture all of the states won by John Kerry in 2008. Pennsylvania, while certainly having tightened somewhat over the course of the past two weeks, appears to be holding at a margin of about +8 for Obama, with very few remaining undecideds. Obama also appears almost certain to capture Iowa and New Mexico, which were won by Al Gore in 2000. Collectively, these states total 264 electoral votes, leaving Obama just 5 votes shy of a tie and 6 of a win.
Obama has any number of states to collect those 5 or 6 votes. In inverse order of difficulty, these include Colorado, Virginia, Nevada, Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Missouri and Indiana. Obama is the signficant favorite in several of these states; winning any one of them may be fairly difficult for John McCain, but winning all of them at once, as John McCain probably must do, is nearly impossible.
McCain's chances, in essence, boil down to the polling being significantly wrong, for such reasons as a Bradley Effect or "Shy Tory" Effect, or extreme complacency among Democratic voters. Our model recognizes that the actual margins of error in polling are much larger than the purported ones, and that when polls are wrong, they are often wrong in the same direction.
However, even if these phenomenon are manifest to some extent, it is unlikely that they are worth a full 6-7 points for McCain. Moreover, there are at least as many reasons to think that the polls are understating Obama's support, because of such factors as the cellphone problem, his superior groundgame operation, and the substantial lead that he has built up among early voters.
McCain's chances of victory are estimated at 1.9 percent, their lowest total of the year.
Our final polling update of the campaign will follow in the early afternoon tomorrow.
11.03.2008
Today's Polls, 11/3 (PM Edition)
by Nate Silver @ 6:17 PM...see also alaska, colorado, endgame, florida, georgia, indiana, missouri, new jersey, north carolina, ohio, pennsylvania, today's polls, virginia, washington, wisconsin
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Gobama!
This is great!
Vote for me tomorrow!!!!
No complaceny- GOTV mofos!
Amen! GOTV & STFIL
Do it for Toot.
Thanks Santa!!
And please, please, please, also let this be the end of neoconservatism.
I will leave extra cookies and milk this year, I promise.
Any thoughts on the spread between the Hays and Dittman polls of Alaska? Cause that's a crazy gap.
Game over. And I'm personally predicting Obama wins 343 to 195.
By the way, no mention of Montana being a true toss up / lean Obama now?
Good OH numbers from Quinnipiac and U of Cincy! Is that what accounts for the 1.9% overall for McCain - or was the method tightened again?
Republican blogs and message boards are ripe with accusations Obama killed his own grandmother. It seems there is no level to which they will not stoop.
Back Barack!
Now we just gotta make sure everyone gets out there! Call your friends & family, make sure they GOTV too!
Awesome news. Good thing too, cause apparently I'm 75% more qualified to be VP than Palin.
Quiz: Are you more qualified to be VP than Sarah Palin
You heard it here first - Obama 349 to McCain 189
Nate, I have a lot of faith in you and the power of math...but man, if this doesn't go our way tomorrow, it's going to take a long long long time to recover.
Thanks for this site though. It's my one-stop election fun shop :D
Well, this releases a couple of rubber bands worth of tension in my gut, but not all of them--still going to PA from NY tomorrow to help GOTV!
You assholes should be crying for McCain. 1.9%. Assholes!
Barack the vote!
Georgia will be a shocker. Keep those eyes open.
Can't wait to read about how Obama-heavy early voting comes into all this.
wv: wormids - the alien race that likes to nest in GOP politicians.
The state polls seem to be coalescing just as the national ones are. OH continues to be tough to poll, but results from other states in the past couple of days have tended to clump within a pretty narrow range (check out those AK results!). McCain's only chance -- that the polls are all wrong in the same direction -- seems like such a long shot that 1 in 50 feels like a massive overstatement of McCain's chances. I'd put it at closer to 1 in 500 or 1 in 5000, but Nate probably knows better.
A near-certain McCain loss the day before the election is great news... FOR JOHN MCCAIN.
p.s. I wonder if PeteKent is going to show up today...
John McCain is sitting pretty!
>>McCain's chances of victory are estimated at 1.9 percent, their lowest total of the year.
All we need to know!
I like the way the model in the Tshirt add is posing as the token undecided voter
blersa: heard all over John McCain's hotel lawn tomorrow
Hey Nate - what's up with the 2.7 point lead in AK? That seems... let's say 'unlikely'?
That looks almost to good to be true... Let's work hard tomorrow to make sure it happens!
And my condolences to the Obama family.
BTW, if you want to see some really disgusting comments with respect to Obama's grandmother passing on, check out the Freeper blog...
Obama's grandmother died today.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/03/obamas-grandmother-dies/
I'm guessing that the Rasmussen numbers don't bother Nate b/c of the cell-phone issue?
But if young voters are not in fact turning out as hoped, that might cancel out the cell-phone effect.
Color me nervous!
Take comfort, those who are not convinced of Obama's righteousness, for I think out of the wilderness they will come. In their pickups and overalls they will come, the great unwashed. These who some call simple-minded will rescue us from the deception and then they will return to their hills and hollers, their forests and fields, back to their labor.
Have faith in America! As John McCain reminds us: We are not victims of history, we make history!
hot damn!
Prediction for McCain's final win percentage tomorrow: 0.6%
The plural of "phenomenon" is "phenomena"
And man, do I love this site.
Nate, your "Shy Tory" link is broken.
98.1. Thanks for making my day better.
wv: Murrow. I think Ed would be as happy as the rest of us.
McCain can still steal the election.
http://www.truthout.org/110308A
Nate - it seems like you should also account for voter suppression in your scenarios that would lead to a McCain victory. There have been some mighty, mighty strange things happening in Florida and Ohio in the last eight years, just to name two states.
Also, I noticed you didn't include the Zogby state polls. Are they too dubious to include? Seems like they've been included in the past.
I spoke with several middle aged people today that never voted before and they are voting on Tuesday in Pennsylvania for Obama. One of the voters is Republican and asked if he could still vote for Obama. I said, "Of course". I also heard people say that they will stay in line for as long as it takes because they are voting. PA is predicted to have an 80% turnout and that will be good for Obama and other Democrats.
TYPO: "However, even if these phenomenon are manifest . . ."
Should be phenomena (plural), not phenomenon (singular).
Looks good. If the polling is accurate, Obama has nothing to worry about. He has a strong ground game.
the only worry is if the polls are inaccurate. I just find it hard to believe America would trust the republican party with another 4 years in the presidency. we need more dramatic change than that.
8 EST can't come soon enough.
Is the closeness of election day a factor in the increasing certainty of an Obama victory?
Oh I'm SO EXCITED for you all, and for tomorrow.
I'm off to bed now, to dream of a landslide, and will be back tomorrow...
BRING IT ON.
wv: untsh. The combined grunt of surprise and dismissal uttered by Palin when Alaska goes BLUE. Mwahaahahaha.
Great and very reaasuring, but let's not be complacent. Let's all go to bed early tonight and let's GOTV for as long as we can. It's not over till the fat lady signs.
Woo-hoo!
My only very small worry, a cousin of the Bradley effect, is that Republicans might be less likely to answer polls (value privacy, etc.) But, we haven't heard of that, and it didn't seem to be a problem in 2006...
Has Karl Rove made his final prediction yet?
http://i37.tinypic.com/ml2icx.jpg
Get out the vote. seriously. Crazy to think that this time tomorrow we could very well know the winner of the 2008 presidential election. I can't wait.
Don't forget the effects of vote / voter manipulation. And no, I'm not talking about ACORN, I'm talking about the real stuff the republicans have been doing.
McCain has got us just where he wants us.
sitting pretty? Nah....more like lying pretty, as are most corpses when the mortician puts on the finishing facial make-up!
WV: hopoforo....McPalin hopofora victory, but their hopos were dashed!
Al Giordano Projects 307, McCain 231
sweet dreams bex!
redin: Utah?
I do like that "shy Tory" effect. Truly we McCain-Palin supporters are the unfashionable bunch.
But we will not be shouted down by the Stalinists and their media allies.
A shudder runs though me as I like of the delight I will feel when Nevada falls for McCain and he and Palin capture the Presidency.
PA has been lost to you all. Obama lost it in San Francisco. Small town folk, the nation over, have been waiting for their revenge.
Don't talk behind our backs!
God bless Toot!
Your Grandson is going to be the next president of the United States of America..but then you know that.
Thank you for sharing him with us.
We don't want your city slicker, arrogant Socialist candidate!
Does anyone know if there's early voting in Hawaii? I'm curious as to whether Barack's grandmother got to cast her vote for her grandson.
Thanks from a northern Kentucky liberal! (And there are a few more like me around here!)
I plan on watching McCain's defeat on Fox News, for extra-added schudenfreude.
This is gonna be great.
-sincerely, Oliver II
Imagine telling someone in December 2001 that a black guy would be president by the end of the decade. They would think the situation was reversed like this picture shows.
Good news but still, gotta get out the vote.
My 18 year son and 18 year old step-son both early voted here in Florida. That is an amazing fact cause neither of these two have ever done anything early.
Poor Toot!
Forever branded as a racist by her grandson to the world: An expedient stepping stone in Obama's rise to power.
The man know no shame!
You might not want him Petekent, but sounds like the majority do. Are you going to visit us tomorrow night after the numbers come in to give us more of that hot air B.S that you've been spouting. Can't wait to hear what you've got to say!!
Zogby state polls are always included. OOPS!
Night, night, see you for Dixville Notch!
How can one poll have Obama in Ohio at +7 and the other at a tie? What is with that state?
We need a volunteer to run over to Free Republic and fetch us some choice threads.
Maybe something with a little eyeball-clawing angst. Or perhaps, some delusional optimism. Either would be fine.
I've had a long day and need some comic relief. Anyone??
What's the betting that Fox News will be the last network to announce an Obama victory?
@tiamaria:
Good question. I do so hope that there is.
Right, definitely bed. Night Becky! (et al)
Pete-
You're continuing on as a dumb ass who spouts before checking numbers.
This is an urban/suburban country (79/21 in 2000). There aren't enough people in the hills and hollers to move things too much.
God I'm going to miss all this when it's over.
I love this site, and now, on the verge of an epic blowout, I have about..oh...let's say 1.9% of compassion for the GOP fuckturds who grace this site.
YES WE fuckin' WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2004 NH early votes
Dixville Notch
Kerry 19
Kerry 7
Harts Location
Bush 16
Kerry 14
Nader 1
Kerry won NH
I love how FOX and IBD/TIPP got their shit together and miraculously have polls that now fall inline with expectations, instead of their poll-paganda they've been spewing about 2 and 3 point leads. And the bullshit part is they will point to this final poll in which they didn't artificially manipulate the conditions as evidence of them being excellent pollsters.
My final electoral prediction #2:
CO....Obama
FL....McCain
GA....McCain
MO....McCain
NC....McCain
NH....Obama
NM....Obama
NV....McCain
OH....McCain
PA....Obama
VA....Obama
Obama 286 - 252 McCain
And I am sticking to it.
GO and FUCKING VOTE.
Colbert 2008!!!!
...AND SO CAN YOU!
No Zogby poll info included in this latest batch? Is he being punished? LOL
Don't talk behind our backs!
Or you'll do what exacty, twerp?
Whew, I like that winning percentage. I'm going to sleep well tonight.
@aria
No way is NV going McCain. no way, no how!!
Nate, I just want to thank you so much for all of your hard work on this blog during the election cycle. I have checked it several times every day, and it was always a pleasure to read your very detailed, substantive analysis. Hopefully some of the clowns in the mainstream media will pick you up to do polling analysis for them... you are the master!!
I´ll vote for Jeremy.
Brit view on the Shy Tory Factor-
What I feel makes this time round more like Labour's 1997 win and not 1992 is now we see the polls agreeing and sustaining a lead over the incumbents and more crucially by 97 the Uk had learnt to trust Labour again and had voted regularly for them in local elections.
Democrats have returned officials in state elections, people have gotten used to seeing their red state go blue!
The party machine too was on top form just like now!
hey petekent: This is almost over and this will be my last response to you.
A) Fuck small towns, the vast vast vast vast vast vast vast vast. . . . vast majority of us live in big cities (me) suburbs (my parents) or exurbs (my brother) small towns are dying (ironically as a result of the ideology you seem to be hell bent on voting for. . .so enjoy that)
B) PLEASEEEEE come post after your candidate, your presumptive party (ever notice republicans these days like to say they are libertarian or "conservative" you'd think that Barr would get more than 2% if there were as many real libertarians as we see claimed) and your ideology goes down in a burning flaming wreck.
C) I have decided I will be watching the election on Fox news. SO I can get a visual impression of the Pete Kent election nite defeat experience.
PHHBBBBLLTTTTTT!!!!!!. . . .loser
Obama is choking back the tears on tv right now
In the morning, invite your neighbors over for brunch and a viewing of "Recount" or maybe the first half of "Fahrenheit 9/11", then drive them to the polls.
If you hear of long lines near polling places and you have any musical or performance talent, go entertain people in line so they won't leave.
Encourage people to bring their Zunes/iPods/Nintendo DS/ etc to entertain themselves.
Bribe them with promises of a victory party if Obama wins.
Plaster your Facebook page with pro-Obama propaganda.
Convince the people in charge to do a (legal and authorized) fire drill in your dorms, because once the slackers are up and out of their rooms, they may as well go and vote.
WV: vellsion - What Sarah Palin and Dick Cheney shoot when they hunt together
My best thoughts to Obama and his family in the face of the great loss of Toot. She was a wonderful lady to have brought up the man that inspires so many.
1.9% WOOHOO!!!!
PeteKent you are a moron
*spansial*
Lee said...
@aria
No way is NV going McCain. no way, no how!!
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I agree! I made 200 calls into NV over the weekend. better than 5:1 O.
Obama is nearly tearful in his speech tonight. He was talking about toot.
Karl Rove final electoral map:
Obama 332
McCain 200
Here's a Free Republic thread on Pennsylvania polls.
Cliff Notes: "Every poll shows Obama with a lead outside the margin of error. THEREFORE, McCain wins easily, maybe a 55-45 split.
Wow.
Our model recognizes that:
1. John McCain is a chode.
2. Sarah Palin is just too scary-stupid.
3. Barack Obama is freakin' AWESOME.
4. People actually trust Joe Biden.
5. The republican "brand" smells like doo doo.
This is great news for John McCain!!!
On the other hand, it could be awful news for John McCain.
As in, really BAD news for John McCain.
Or even unbelievably DIRE news for John McCain.
Perhaps, indeed, absolutely, utterly, and mindblowingly CATASTROPHIC news for John McCain.
No, it is in fact good news for John McCain.
Actually, this is simply STELLAR news for John McCain!!!
Compared, that is, to having to spend another five years in a Vietkong POW camp.
nice thoughts, Heather!
Feeling so sorry for Obama up there, you can only imagine how difficult standing up there can be.
23 hours until the first polls close!
Dario :-)))
\o/
Watching Fox. Love to see the end of the Neocon. Imagining Hannity squirm under the might of the Obama WAVE. GOTV.
I had no clue John Kerry won any states in 2008. I love this site and you're doing great work, Nate. But hire a new proofreader.
Lee said...
@aria
No way is NV going McCain. no way, no how!!
+++++++++++++++++++
You sure davis and bonds have said that their internals have them at +2 for NV, NM and CO....I highly doubt its spin....Ok maybe its spin...
I'm with you Lawerence I reckon Georgia could be the big surprise and will be very close. I also think that Obama is going to over perform against the polls due to superior GOTV and voter motivation and will win by 9 (you heard it here first). I cann't see the "shy tory effect"" in this election as Republicans have never struck me as being shy about proclaiming their support. Also in the UK you don't have voters registered to a party so polling methods were slightly different. Still as a left leaning Scot I still bare the scares of the "shy tory election" of 1992. I took me ages to get over that one. This election however,reminds me much moreof the 1997 UK when Tony Blair first one in an unprecidented landslide.
wv: preasidsc - the first buzz you get after taking LSD
Nate and Co.,
Just wanted to commend you on the absolutely superb work you have done on behalf of the country and my sanity. What a breath of fresh air and clarity in the swamp of current political hubris.
I will miss you all so much. You have been my morning coffee buds for a while now. What's next for you and the faithful audience you've so deservedly earned? Please tell me all this talent is not going to go to waste after the election...
Good on all of us, and let's do our part to make this country work. Hope to see everyone again soon.
Sundie in Colorado
KarlRov's FINAL Map
http://www.rove.com/uploads/0000/0049/McCain-Obama_11_3_08_FINAL.pdf
Cheers,
K
I will certainly stop by and say "Hi" one way or the other!
The peaceful transition of power is a testament to the greatness of this nation. That we are seemingly about to give it to a Black man is an awe-inspiring confirmation that America remains the last, best hope for mankind.
Obama may have fooled many and was aided by a complicit media in his rise to power, but we have taken giant steps this year to cleanse ourselves from the sins of our racist past.
All Americans can feel good about it.
I am happiest for our African American citizens who for many years suffered non-sensical stigmatization and now can feel the full embrace of the nation that was created and prospered on their backs and lives.
God bless us all and may our motives forever be pure and opposition loyal to the Nation!
PeteKent said...
Poor Toot!
Forever branded as a racist by her grandson to the world: An expedient stepping stone in Obama's rise to power.
The man know no shame!
PeteKent,
you are a very sad man...
Karl Rove final electoral map: Obama 338 - McCain 200
If there is a massive landside as I have consistently believed, it will be because of the large defection of Republicans from the McCain-Palin option. For Obama folk waiting to vote will be, as suggested, a carnival, a rite of passage. I want to pass on a note of appreciation for cugel and a few other regular posters who have made the difference for me reading here.
Here is a particularly disgusting Freeper Blog post, posted by "counterpunch":
Terminally ill cancer patients rarely die from the cancer itself.
It is not uncommon for their death to be planned and assisted, before the suffering become too unbearable.
There is no doubt that 0bama went to Hawaii to finalize such a planned terminal sedation for his grandmother, and decided on today as the day for her to pass on.
This may have been the first politically timed terminally sedation ever.
Redstate suggests a new operation chaos!!!
I have a hearty suggestion for all of us: seek out exit pollsters. Find them. Be willing to engage in the exit polling. And lie. Tell the exit pollsters you voted for Barack Obama. Tell them you are a diehard liberal. But tell them you voted for Barack Obama.
to bad rove is in bed with Obama.....Hmmm wonder if that at free republic....might check that out that thread.....
Today for the first time I believe that Obama is going to get over 400 EVs.
cloudyfuture
NV,CO,NM are blue
tomorrow night you will see
OT -- Did Real Joe reveal his "secret" today? It was a busy day at work and didn't check much here today.
Fooled?
Fuck off, Pete.
Just fuck off.
WV: I hearsom conservative talking. Must be fibbin'.
real joe-
is that your surprise? You know how much they will steal in each state?
Somewhere in America a Republican is lying.
Heather-
I don't get it. What could that possibly do other than continue the BRADLEEE AFFAECT narrative? That's kinda pointless...
SHERWICK said...
Somewhere in America a Republican is lying.
------
You mean to say...."Many somewheres", many Pubs are lying!
PPP Nevada
O: 51
M: 47
Obama had his granny killed just so he could get a modicum of sympathy vote?
Now I have heard everything!
Next thing you know, people will be saying Trig Palin is really his sister's child!
Alabama 9
Alaska 3
Arizona 10
Arkansas 6
* California 55
* Colorado 9
* Connecticut 7
* Delaware 3
* D.C. 3
*Florida 27
*Georgia 15
* Hawaii 4
Idaho 4
* Illinois 21
*Indiana 11
* Iowa 7
* Kansas 6
Kentucky 8
Louisiana 9
* Maine 4
* Maryland 10
* Massachusetts 12
* Michigan 17
* Minnesota 10
* Mississippi 6
* Missouri 11
*Montana 3
Nebraska 5
* Nevada 5
* New Hampshire 4
* New Jersey 15
* New Mexico 5
* New York 31
* North Carolina 15
North Dakota 3
* Ohio 20
Oklahoma 7
* Oregon 7
* Pennsylvania 21
* Rhode Island 4
South Carolina 8
South Dakota 3
Tennessee 11
Texas 34
Utah 5
* Vermont 3
* Virginia 13
* Washington 11
West Virginia 5
* Wisconsin 10
Wyoming 3
Obama by 400 plus
Check out these Washington governor polls:
Strategic Vision (R) Gregoire 50 Rossi 48 Gregoire +2
The Washington Poll Gregoire 50 Rossi 48 Gregoire +2
SurveyUSA Gregoire 50 Rossi 48 Gregoire +2
Rasmussen Gregoire 50 Rossi 48 Gregoire +2
That's incredible, I've never seen anything like it. O_o
Thank you Sherwick! My line is catching on!
PeteKent said...
Poor Toot!
Forever branded as a racist by her grandson to the world: An expedient stepping stone in Obama's rise to power.
The man know no shame!
November 3, 2008 5:34 PM
Pete: There's a special place in the afterlife for people who make comments like this --- and several other quasi-racist ones.
I used to find you musings slightly entertaining.
You've crossed the line.
Pete-
That was low even for you. You can stick your head in the noose on the porch now
Grogz, agree re: 1997.
It will be very interesting to see what happens to the Republicans. If they wise up and dump it all on Palin and the fundies, then a new, fiscally conservative GOP with, say, Jindal on the ticket could be competitive very quickly. But if they decide that McCain was the problem and end up with Palin top-lining in 2012, they will be massacred again, and they could be out of power for a generation. For reference, see 'UK Conservative Party 1997-2007'.
Obama: bradley effect outdated and overstated
Admit it, Nate:
You were just f'ing with us the 6.9% McCain win last night
My child's almost all-white Catholic school here in Cuyahoga county had a mock election today, Obama won 68-33%!!! He was VERY upset 'cause his best friend voted for McSame~poor ignorant bastard thought Obama was gonna take-away his guns(their in 1st grade) My son told me he no longer wanted to sit next to him on the bus! It would be funny, if it weren't so true-to life!
~Special advocate for the Trees...
From PPP:
Obama leads in Nevada Raleigh, N.C. – Barack Obama is headed into election day with a 51-47 advantage in Nevada, a new survey from Public Policy Polling finds. Obama is struggling with the state’s white voters, trailing McCain 54-44 with that demographic. He’s winning overwhelming support though from blacks (94-4) and Hispanics (61-36), which is propelling him to a solid overall lead. Most of the state’s voters report already having cast their ballots. With those folks Obama has a more commanding 57-43 lead. McCain is up 57-38 with those who have not yet voted but plan to on election day. “It looks like Nevada is going to complete a Mountain West trio of victories for Barack Obama along with Colorado and New Mexico,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling.
“The lead Obama has been able to build up among early voters in the state is virtually insurmountable.” !!!!!!!
There once was a fool named McCain
Who's a loser and also quite lame
Got beat in a rout
Up his ass and his snout
The result of a shitty campaign
So Rove says Obama will get 338 EVs, with McCain taking Missouri and North Carolina by less than 1%, Indiana by only 1%, and Arizona by only 4%.
I'd take that.
Everyone knows Rove is in the tank for Obama! Apostate!
Actually, Rove, unlike Hannity et al., has his credibility to think of. He can't go down with the ship predicting a McCain landslide.
@mason
You got me! I don't understand what it would accomplish. Sad thing is, they really think there are enough redstate readers to affect anything at all. LOL
NM is BLUE!! Don't believe anything to the contrary. We will deliver 1 senate seat, 3 house seats (we already have a sitting Dem senator). 5 for the blue team in NM on 11/5/08
*fevorg*
--Neocon--
Guess this battle is not over.
A neoconservative is someone who believes in an aggressive, assertive American military and foreign policy that work to promote US interests (including democracy, but not always) around the world without apologies.
A neoconservative can be a gay married man who runs an abortion clinic. Calling the broad group of current Republicans neoconservatives is wrong.
John McCain subscribes to a lot of neoconservative ideas; Sarah Palin never gave them a moment's thought being selected.
I fail to see why the insistence on talking about Pennsylvania "tightening". This is silly reliance on the Obama-McCain margin without looking at the actual numbers. The margin has decreased, but that's because of undecideds ending up with McCain. Meanwhile, Obama's support has remained steady at about 52%, with only a couple polls coming in below 50% - no matter how many undecideds break to McCain, he can't win PA without some of the decideds breaking away from Obama - and there's no evidence of that.
Rove finally admits that his "8 year strategy" has brought ruin to the Republican Party.
PAlin is being pushed hard on MSNBC, I think the libs are trying to rehabilitate her just enough for her to be the nominee. Then they wil kill her.
yes! Fingers crossed, tuning in to 538.com after I vote tomorrow.
Blue Jungas--so now it is racist to call Obama out on his race-baiting and the all too familiar trashing of his family?
Many of us who know our own characters and have not a racist bone in our bodies deeply resent the attitude that you and your candidate manifest to those who would call Obama out for the fraud that he is.
We will not be lead by a race-baiting socialist. We are coming out in numbers never before seen tomorrow to say, "Enough! We will have none of it!"
The rumble you hear is the Silent Majority preparing to roar!
We are just now clearing our throats.
On to Dixville Notch! McCain landslide. The earth is moving . . .
Anyone else feel like a kid on Christmas Eve? lol
Firstly, I've checked this site religiously but I have amazingly neglected to leave a comment until now - probably because I've been too busy furiously clicking refresh! Nate, It's an amazing piece of work you have done to create this site and you should be so proud when you're vindicated on election day.
To PeteKent:
I know you're bitter and all, but where the hell do you think you get off making a comment like that about Obama's grandmother? Politics or no politics, a light on this man's life has just died and all you can do is try and score a cheap point by hideously misquoting him on something he said about his grandma. You are a despicable excuse for a human being.
You, like the other right wing nuts, make me physically sick and cast the darkest aspersions on your fellow conservatives. I feel incredibly sorry for the sensbile and sane majority of the right who have to share part of the political spectrum with people like you.
Remember all the freepers crying that Sarah Palin's family should be off limits, and Obama agreeing and being above the fray? Now, they dare to call Obama's Toot a ploy for sympathy. I don't believe in hell, but if I am wrong, I know exactly where they'd all go!
*allymp* The McCain campaign has allymp in the polls
You guys make me nervous with all your Obama gloating. The time for gloating will come when Obama is declared the winner and McCain concedes. Never for one second thing that this race is over, FORGET the polls. While I admire Nate and this site and the work he is done (and I hope he is right) this election won't be over until it is over. I hate to use such an old cliche but seriously, don't count your chickens until they hatch. Please keep doing everything you can to get the vote out, there will be no worse feeling in the world than to spend tonight pouring over the polls and gloating if we do lose tomorrow.
Right of the cliff, Lemmings!
You're going to be CRYYYYYYYYYYING when PA is called tomorrow! Mark my words lib dipshits.
Say "hail to the chief" and President-Elect McCain and Vice President-Elect SARAH PALIN!
ROFL!
(BTW PeteKent, you're awesome!)
"PeteKent said...
The rumble you hear is the Silent Majority preparing to roar!
We are just now clearing our throats."
You'll have to find your way out of the woods first.
The link to the Shy Tory is dead. The correct link is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shy_Tory_Factor
Anyone else getting tired of the effect? Its obviously a symptom of no one not really having a damn clue as to what the polls mean. But really. Come on now. We have the Shy Tory Effect which is a new one to me.
-The Bradley Effect
-The Cell Phone Effect
-The Young Adult Effect (OK they don't call it an effect, but its presumed.)
-The Minority Effect a.k.a The Race Effect. (Ditto, they don't call it an effect, but its presumed.)
-The Bush Effect. (Contrary to popular believe this isn't a sexual side effect.)
-The Martin Luther King Effect. (I approve of this effect. We need more of this effect in this country.)
-The Butterfly-Flaps-its-Wings-in-Central-Park-also-known-as-the-Chaos-Theory Effect.
-The Montezuma's Revenge Effect (What a really crappy effect that one is. I think its what McCain got after eating in the back water part of AK.)
-The GOSUB LOOP EFFECT EFFECT (This is what happens when you watch too much CNN...it loops and loops and loops)
-The Fox News Effect also know as the GOP free advertisement effect. (An effect that only seems to work on the Republican base since no Indi or Dem worth their IQ points would treat Faux as anything other then BS.)
-The I've-Got-a-Smile-so-Big-I-Could-Eat-Your-Baby-Whole Effect. (Pundits don't know if this is a good effect or not, but in either case its all Obama's. That and DUDE! Lay off the teeth brightener. I need to wear my sunglasses when I watch a stump speech. Contrary to popular belief those AREN'T spotlights on him onstage. Its the reflection off things out in the audience from his teeth.)
-The HOLY SHIT Effect (An effect that seems to be resonating with Democrats who are going HOLY SHIT WE MIGHT ACTUALLY WIN AN ELECTION FOR ONCE!!!!111oneoneeleventy|||\\\)
-The Buffer Overflow effect. (This is a result of going to cnn.com, cbsnews.com, wsj.com, fivethirtyeight.com, washingtonpost.com, nytimes.com, rasmussenreports.com, voteforamerica.net, election.princeton.edu, politicalwire.com, pollster.com, votesmart.org, factcheck.org, pewresearch.org, gallup.com, cqpolitics.com, c-span.org, npr.org, and news.google.com/?topic=el on a daily or sometimes hourly basis. The results are generally a dull cow eyed look with occasional drooling from trying to make sense of this cluster fudge of stats.)
-The Effect Effect. (This effect causes an effect, that effects the a fore mentioned effects by nullifying all the effects creating one hell of a weird election effect.......*thinks a second*......EFFECT!
Todos a votar mañana !!!!!
Vamos Obama
I never get tired of this.
You can hardly see the red in McCain's little pie wedge.
All these crocodile tears for granny Toot! Boo hoo!
When Palin was being attacked regarding the maternity of her child where were you then?
Obama does not give a damn about family. He has a half brother who is forced to live by his fists and subsides on a dollar a month and poor Aunt and Uncle in Boston whom he has shown no regard for.
And you expect him to look after you?
The mountain men will save you! They and their women.
Summer by Edith Wharton, a wonderful book. Sometimes they come down from the Mountains to do what must be done!
Okay; that proves it! There are two PeteKents. The lunatic name troll, and the reasonable, sane one.
I'd be very disappointed to find out that the PeteKent who leaves a nice comment is also the same PeteKent who has left profane, racist, threatening trash on other threads.
Pete Kent you deluded moron.
There's such a thing as losing with grace.
Apply it, douchebag and you might...just might come across as less than a twisted sick brain-raped fuckturd.
Actually, you won't but it's worth a try regardless.
"PeteKent said...
The rumble you hear is the Silent Majority preparing to roar!
We are just now clearing our throats."
Prepare for an avalanche of diarrhea then!
Don't forget the Palin effect - voters intend to vote McCain, but then see Palin on the ticket, and can't bring themselves to do it.
I actually think that's real.
Anyone think that the Electoral College is an absurd?
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/11/03/the_absurdity_of_the_electoral_college.html
Dead Cat Bounce -- The Little Boy that Santa Claus Forgot!
aria said...
"My final electoral prediction #2:
CO....Obama
FL....McCain
GA....McCain
MO....McCain
NC....McCain
NH....Obama
NM....Obama
NV....McCain
OH....McCain
PA....Obama
VA....Obama
Obama 286 - 252 McCain
And I am sticking to it."
That is pretty conservative. My prediction:
Obama 353; McPalin 185
NV is blue
CO....Obama
FL....Obama
GA....McCain
IN....McCain
MO....McCain
NC....Obama
NH....Obama
NM....Obama
NV....Obama
OH....Obama
PA....Obama
VA....Obama
Great angst-ridden Freeper thread over Karl Rove's prediction of BO victory...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2124058/posts
**excerpt**
To: flattorney
I honestly believe that Republican campaign wizards believe it’s better to demoralize Republican voters and build overconfidence in Democrat voters, than to do the opposite. Rove MUST be thinking this overconfidence prevents them turning out — why bother since they’re winning big — and knows Republicans vote no matter what. That’s my theory anyway. If Obama really was going to win in such a landslide, why isn’t it reflected anywhere but the polls? I just don’t see it.
9 posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 6:23:02 PM by DRey
Oliver:
Where were you when the villfying of Palin was in full swing?
Crawl back in your hole.
MO is more likely for Obama than NC.
PeteKent, you fail at history. There was an election in 2004, you know? And the Republicans ran George "Jesus" Bush against John "Worst Candidate Ever" Kerry.
That year, there were lots of gay marriage initiatives on the ballots. And the folks in the hills and trees---nothing works them into a lather like a good chance to persecute the gays!
So the silent majority poured out of the hills and forests and...
...barely won. In 2008, we're running Barack "The Face of the New Humanism" Obama against John "Get Off My Lawn" McCain and Sarah "Fuck Me I'm Stupid" Palin.
So I have just two words for you, my friend:
SCOREBOARD, MOTHERFUCKER.
PeteKent said...
Poor Toot!
Forever branded as a racist by her grandson to the world: An expedient stepping stone in Obama's rise to power.
Come on Pete. That sort of crap just undermines your last post. He didn't brand her a racist. He was just openly acknowledging the instinct that was baked into her brain, that by all accounts she fought hard against influencing her actions. He understood it, how it sits in so many, and that's why he had even a sniff at being the first black President. Because he gave people the chance to choose the 'right' choice. To not get up in their grill like Sharpton or Jackson but instead to accept imperfections that we have less than complete control over and accept the whole of the person.
I'm kind of hoping Obama loses Missouri so we don't have to hear that stupid bellweather BS in 2012.
Nate, Sean, Brett --
it's been an incredible ride with you guys. My first electoral experience was listening to my parents be polite to Republican friends in 1956. The button that emerged afterwards was
"I voted Democratic / Don't blame me!"
And the old mementos I gathered in the basement and attic went back to
"War in Europe - Peace in America - God Bless Wilson"
-- the 1916 campaign when California reelected the peace president.
I was already an activist at age 13 when, the day before my birthday, John Kennedy died. And except for 1964, I have mostly been absorbing pain from the USA's electoral drift ever since. Now there is not only someone who really seems worthy of our trust, there is a new generation of folks like you who have taken hold of democracy and the internet and made it all good and made it all new.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Shitty news about Obama's grandmother. I saw him talk about her during the rally in North Carolina, and he was clearly shaken by it. It's the first time I've seen him get emotional.
I haven't checked, but I can imagine the FReeptards are dumping all over her death, calling it a stunt. These right-wing nutjobs are fucking evil. They've been pushing this coal non-story all day, and are pissed that that the MSM are instead concentrating on matters of life and death.
VA RED
NH RED
GA RED
FL RED
MO RED
IN RED
NV RED
PA RED
And my home state of North Carolina.....RED!
Breaking (for real this time)- the state personnel board of Alaska report on Troopergate and other issues is being released in 20 minutes (press conference) - no details other than this will be the investigator's report.
Daily Kos has details as does Mudflats.
Mr. Benvides:
I do have a sock puppet, my posts may be controversial, but there is nothing racist about them. Remember, criticizing Obama is not racist. Including mocking his devotion to his family in the face of so much evidence to the contrary. Including how he used a dying woman to exculpate himself from the Rev Wright Mess.
Jeremy--
There is such a thing as winning with grace and it should come far easier, "fuckturd"!
I can't wait until tomorrow!
Voted for Obama Oct. 21st. I'm on pins and needles!
The FiveThirtyEight.com Effect.
Voters spend to much time looking at polls and posting on this website and forget to go and vote.
It can also lead to lost jobs reduced work productivity and failed relationships.
If Obama loses it's all Nate's fault.
Voter purges? Greg Palast put out an alarmist piece about it:
http://www.truthout.org/110308A
any merit to that?
Vinny - I agree. I think there's a lot of Republicans who may not be able to pull the lever on Sarah Palin. She is astoundingly awful.
VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA!
wv=forse, may the forse be with you when you vote.
Can I have some of whatever it is the RWC is having please??
No more "my friends" after tomorrow!
What's the verdict on last night's Minnesota senate debate? Who won?
Landslide state predictions (60% of the vote or better).
Obama
Washington DC 93%
Hawaii 78%
Rhode Island 69%
Vermont 67%
Illinios 65%
New York 65%
Massachusetts 63%
Delaware 62%
California 61%
Connecticuit 60%
McCain
Utah 65%
Idaho 62%
Okahoma 62%
Whyoming 62%
Nebraska 61%
Kansas 60%
Tennessee 60%
From Mudflats:
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/
Troopergate II Report to be Released at 3:30 Election Eve!
3
11
2008
BREAKING NEWS:
Independent Investigator Tim Petumenos, who was hired by the Personnel Board just said he will release his troopergate report at 3:30 p.m. today. This is the second report, following on the heels of a Legisltative Investigation whose report last month indicated that Palin had abused her power in the firing of former Commissioner of Public Safety Walt Monegan.
Kyle Hopkins from the Anchorage Daily News is on the scene.
He said the report would cover Gov. Sarah Palin’s firing of Walt Monegan as well as a separate complaint from Anchorage activist Andree McLeod alleging alleges that state hiring practices were circumvented for a Palin supporter.
Petumenos has two staff members with him, and each has a thick, yellow-bound document on their lap. I should note that when I called
Personnel Board chair Debra English before the meeting to ask about
the Palin investigation, she didn’t say anything but recommended
showing up.
Buckle your seatbelts.
but I can imagine the FReeptards are dumping all over her death, calling it a stunt.
You'd imagine right.
What I want to know is in these polls are you accounting for the voter fraud that's happened in the past? In 2004 over 3 million votes weren't counted, this year with even more republican secretaries of state and even more people being purged illegally from voter rolls -- how do you account for possibly 6 million votes kept from being cast in these polls?
@ted
Worked all afternoon on GOTV. Arranged rides for a couple of the village drunks for tomorrow, early in the day before they are too wasted. LOL. I have done my job for today, and for the last three months. This is not gloating, it is earned. Must go to bed early because I will be a poll clerk at 6AM tomorrow.
Nevada is going Obama.
This is such a great update I love all that blue.
Anyone having pie tomorrow????
PeteKent: Are you completely insane? What a fucking moron!
Pete:
a) Firstly, Palin put herself in the political scene by becoming a governor and accepting a VP nomination. Obama's grandma was an old woman suffering from a terminal disease who was running for no political office and not appearing in the media by her own choice - see the difference?
b) I don't agree with personal smears of the nature levelled at Palin (Some of which, such as the rumours about her youngest child, were awful) or what you just said about Obama's grandmother. Then again, I do feel Palin got nowhere near as good as she gave in the national media - not that retaliation is an excuse for muckraking.
@vinny
You will crown the new bellweather state this year
New Mexico - 2 misses (1976, 2000) from 1912 on (92%), perfect from 1912 to 1976
Except, Gore won NM in 2000 by 366 votes, and that would have been the correct answer if the Supreme Court hadn't handed it to Bush.
PumaKent
here is your dream President:
http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/37000/Hillary-McCain-37066.jpg
You Vichy git.
RWC.. wait a tic! Boomshak? from Pollster? awh I thought I smell shite! hi!
xx
new antiabortion antiObama add is just showing up on Philly cable (saw it on MSNBC) by a 527 group --
http://www.bornalivetruth.org/
Worked near north side of Milwaukee GOTV....covered >250 houses.
Virtually everyone we talked to had already voted. Not a McPalin sign to be seen.
Picking up 1 of 88 vans at Milwaukee airport to drive voters all day.
Then back to Obamatown for the big rally.
GOTV!!
Come on Guys.
Give PeteKent a break.
It is incredibly difficult trying to come up with comments that are even more stupid than his previous ones.
We will probably get a break from him tomorrow while he sobs uncontrollably in his mom's basement.
I do not feel sorry for Palin because she chose it, knowing her 17-year old daughter was pregnant. What did she think would happen? Give me a break. Knocked up vs dying of cancer is quite a difference.
@ Heather, thanks for your hard work. None of us can stop now, we have all worked too hard to lose this thing at the last minute - that was my point.
DarĂo said...
"MO is more likely for Obama than NC."
I don't think so. I think NC polls under count for AA turn out.
I also agree with Vinny, who said...
"I'm kind of hoping Obama loses Missouri so we don't have to hear that stupid bellweather BS in 2012."
I just updated my Flickr Photostream of the charts. Feel free to check out the slideshow to get the "movie effect" of how the projections have changed.
I guess this is my last post to my photostream ('sniff) :)
heather nordquist and her selective morality. nice. So indicative of Democrats.
Final Electoral Map Prediction:
Ohio- Obama
Florida- Obama
VA- Obama
CO- Obama
NV- Obama
NM- Obama
NC- McCain
IN- McCain
MT/WV/ND/AZ- McCain
GA- McCain
338 for Obama, 200 for MacDaddy
People, there are two PeteKents; one is a pathetic troll. It should not be difficult to tell them apart if you pay attention.
real joe is karl rove.
DarĂo said...
Karl Rove final electoral map:
Obama 332
McCain 200
Dario, I know you posted this a long time ago, but I just checked back in. What happened to the other 6 EVs?
"People, there are two PeteKents; one is a pathetic troll. It should not be difficult to tell them apart if you pay attention."
All versions of Pete Kent are pathetic trolls.
@assmole
She paraded her children around like they were props. What a selfish and arrogant woman you stand up for. You are a complete moron. Talk about selective morality.
@ Chrisready
Great job on the chart slideshow!
http://flickr.com/photos/christianready/sets/72157602564307604/show/
@julie
338-200
http://www.rove.com/uploads/0000/0049/McCain-Obama_11_3_08_FINAL.pdf
Final Prediction
Obama: Kerry+
Iowa
New Mexico
Virginia
Colorado
Nevada
North Carolina
Missouri
Indiana
Georgia
McCain maybe gets Ohio and Florida, although they will both be very close.
@ted
You, too. I believe that 538 posters, despite their time at this site, have definitely racked up some hours at their local Obama campaign offices. Good job, everyone that has been out there getting this done. YES WE CAN and YES WE WILL!!!
Freeptards instead just troll and bitch.
Florida, Quinnipiac University 10/27-11/2: Obama 47%, McCain 45%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...ober-2008.html
Florida, Reuters Zogby 10/30-11/2: Obama 48%, McCain 46%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
Florida, Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2: Obama 50%, McCain 48%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
Pennsylvania, Quinnipiac University 10/27-11/2: Obama 52%, McCain 42%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...ober-2008.html
Pennsylvania, Reuters Zogby 10/30-11/2: Obama 54%, McCain 40%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
Pennsylvania, Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2: Obama 53%, McCain 45%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
Ohio, Quinnipiac University 10/27-11/2: Obama 50%, McCain 43%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...ober-2008.html
Ohio, University of Cincinnati Ohio Poll 10/29-11/2: Obama 52%, McCain 46%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...ober-2008.html
Ohio, Reuters Zogby 10/30-11/2: Obama 50%, McCain 44%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
Ohio, Survey USA 10/30-11/2: Obama 48%, McCain 46%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
Ohio, Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2: Obama 50%, McCain 48%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
Georgia, Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2: McCain 50%, Obama 48%, Barr 2%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
North Carolina, Reuters Zogby 10/30-11/2: McCain 49%, Obama 48%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
North Carolina, Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2: Obama 50%, McCain 49%, Barr 1%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
Virginia, Reuters Zogby 10/30-11/2: Obama 51%, McCain 45%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
Indiana, Reuters Zogby 10/30-11/2: McCain 49%, Obama 44%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
Missouri, Reuters Zogby 10/30-11/2: Obama 47%, McCain 46%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
Missouri, Survey USA 10/30-11/2: McCain 48%, Obama 48%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
Minnesota, Survey USA 10/30-11/1: Obama 49%, McCain 46%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...ober-2008.html
Nevada, Reuters Zogby 10/30-11/2: Obama 51%, McCain 43%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
Montana, Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2: Obama 48%, McCain 47%.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...mber-2008.html
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