Today we continue our Road to 270 series with the Centennial State, Colorado.
DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200, Colorado is going blue. What was supposed to be a nailbiter simply hasn't materialized into a very tough fight from the McCain campaign, and the Obama ground game in Colorado is an elite, overwhelming force. When all is said and done, stunningly beautiful Colorado will have two Democratic Senators, a Democratic governor, four or five out of seven House seats held by Dems, and will have given its nine electoral votes to the lanky Senator from Illinois. Chuck Todd made an outstanding point about Colorado and the Republican party's woes:
If I were the Republican Party, I'd make Michigan and Colorado my petri dishes for experiments to get the party's groove back. Until the GOP can appeal to secular independents in the West and working class Democrats in the Midwest, they are going to be a minority party. The party's comeback should start in one of these two states because they are microcosms of the GOP's issues.
Key Demographics

Note: Factors colored in red can generally be thought to help McCain. Factors in blue can generally be thought to help Obama. Factors in purple have ambiguous effects. Except where otherwise apparent, the numbers next to each variable represent the proportion out of each 100 residents in each state who fall into that category. Fundraising numbers reflect dollars raised in the 2008 campaign cycle per eligible voter in each state. Figures for seniors and youth voters are proportions of all residents aged 18+, rather than all residents of any age. The figure for education reflects the average number of years of completed schooling for all adults aged 25+. The figure for same-sex households reflects the number of same-sex partner households as a proportion of all households in the state. The liberal-conservative index is scaled from 0 (conservative) to 100 (liberal), based on a Likert score of voter self-identification in 2004 exit polls. The turnout rates reflect eligible voters only. Unemployment rates are current as of June 2008.
What McCain Has Going For Him
John McCain is helped by men and Mormons in Colorado, as well as the social/religious conservative base who love and are energized by Sarah Palin even if ambivalent about him. Republicans have long outnumbered Democrats in this part of the world, with most of the independent, libertarian, and/or former Perot voters typically leaning Republican over the Democratic candidate when given only two viable choices. Indeed, only LBJ in 1964 and Clinton (due to the Perot-voting split of the conservative vote) in 1992 have taken Colorado for Democrats since Truman. It's a state whose independents would have bought McCain's maverick argument in 2000, and indeed McCain's fundraising is in the top 25% of states. McCain has made trips to the Western Slope, where he needs to rack up a big margin in Grand Junction (Mesa County) if he is to have any hope of holding down the losses in Denver.
What Obama Has Going For Him
Demographically, factors that favor the Democrat include many young voters and, in this race, very few elderly voters favors Obama. Starbucks overwhelm Walmarts, and despite hosting the epicenter of religious Republican conservative politics in Colorado Springs, only 15 states have a higher percentage of same-sex households. Colorado is also a highly educated state, and despite being a Mountain West state, has a lower than the median gun ownership rate. Colorado has an increasing number of Latino voters, and only nine states donated money to Barack Obama at a higher per capita rate. Finally, Barack Obama appears to have gotten a huge benefit from the Democratic National Convention taking place in Denver, as thousands of new volunteers around the state traded volunteer hours for tickets.
What To Watch For
Marilyn Musgrave, the Republican House incumbent representing the eastern third of the state, is in a very tough re-election fight against Democrat Betsy Markey. Few House members this side of Michele Bachmann would Democrats like to see go down more, given her public antipathy for Americans who are gay. In the presidential race, if Obama reaches 40% in a place like Mesa County (Grand Junction) or in El Paso County (Colorado Springs), then goodnight sweet prince. To have any prayer, McCain needs to hold Obama way down at the low 30% area (Gore and Kerry levels) in those places and hope that voting problems in Denver hold up the vote there. John Elway stumped for John McCain, but even his late-minute heroics likely won't be enough.



174 comments
first?
YAY!!!
This heroic "road" is nearly at its end. Congratulations, Sean, for these pithy reviews and your fantastic, romantic "On the Road" series.
wow, gorgeous photography. You're making me want to move to CO!
Gotta love this NY Post map:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11022008/photos/news004a.jpg
If NC and Ohio split, the election will be a horse race? No, Obama will have won.
Is it bad I have sexual relations with animals?
Sort of incredible that Colorado is going to blue. But's it's all organization, organization. Yet another state where Hillary Clinton would have failed miserably or won barely (and meaninglessly) since her path to victory would have been very different.
Obama probably could have won North Dakota too, if he's actually visited there enough. While it seems like not much effort, it would have splintered the GOP in the Plains, and laid an infrastructure for future races. Anywho, at least Colorado and Denver are now going into the Dem column.
Sean,
Thanks for writing about Colorado (my state). You are so spot on.
Blue. Because the Democrats are appealing to independents as moderates and the Republicans are positioning themselves as right-wing, religious nut jobs.
I am a Libertarian and even I am voting more often for the "commies" than the "Colorado Springs wackos".
,dave
@jackie,
Move to Colorado.
I did (from greater Boston) in 1980 and I can tell you that my wife and I have not found a better place to live.
Low taxes.
Great weather.
,dave
Norm Coleman on the Ropes
Local Regression State Polling Graphs for Presidential and Senate
Obama 377, McCain 161
Mormons in Colorado? Where? We deported them all next door to Utah. There's a reason the state line between CO and UT says "Welcome to Utah, still the right place" and someone wrote "wing" between "right" and "place".
Marylin Musgrave must go down. Hopefully, with Ft. Collins and Greeley getting more blue, this will happen. Pueblo is predominantly working class latino and white and has always been pretty blue. Mountain towns are often split too between liberal ski culture and conservatives (who ride snowmobiles and die in more avalanches). Aspen, Telluride, Crested Butte, Steamboat all have sizable and active progressive populations.
Something else to consider: Colorado Springs is not as monolithic in the GOP column as previous elections. There are at least 150,000 galvanized progressives in a city of about 350,000. Colorado is very much libertarian, and, lots of military in CS, which isn't always a shoe-in for the GOP, especially since VietIraq. The dead keep coming back to Ft. Carson.
Focus on the Family and all the other conservative Christian groups have seen their high water mark. The demographics of El Paso county, let alone the Denver suburbs, are moving upward for the Dems.
Of course, Boulder and Denver will always be very blue. When Jefferson, Douglas, and Arapahoe counties go blue, you know that spells trouble for McCain.
-Some thoughts from a CO native.
Yeah, I think I like it best when you deliver your info in these segments straight, and save the rhapsodic for the "On the Road" series. The latter series, by the way, have been utterly fantastic.
I like that the individual trying his gosh-golly second grade hardest to pollute these comment threads is inexplicably wedded to starting all of his imposter posts with "is it bad/is it wrong..."
Carry on.
Scalze said...
Gotta love this NY Post map:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11022008/photos/news004a.jpg
If NC and Ohio split, the election will be a horse race? No, Obama will have won.
Thew analysis is terrible. But the map isn't horrible. Make Nevada, New Mexico, Iowa, and New Hampshire blue, and its pretty much what we're looking at for a "bad night" scenario. Obv if its a landslide, which we can't be sure about, the map looks very different, but who knows yet.
There is a great article at the WP from their pollster:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/31/AR2008103103044_2.html?nav=hcmodule&sid=ST2008110101102&s_pos=
Off topic but I was just at an Obama campaign office in Santa Barbara. I was making calls for the first time in my life. There were so many people there they were running out of calling materials. When I left, the parking lot was full of people making telephone GOTV calls. It was amazing. 4 years from now I will be doing this again. As long as we have good candidates I will do this for the Democrats. LANDLSIDE 2008 and Democracy! Woo Hooo!
Virginia has gone back to being a toss-up on RCP after a few weeks as lean Obama.
49 hours until first polls close.
If I were a Republican, my biggest fear would be the celebrity candidate. I mention this because of John Elway. Some talk of him wanting to run for Governor of Colorado. No idea how he would do, but it really does have the feeling of papering over cracks. We are hugely unpopular, so lets try and find some people who are personally popular and adopt them. I don't see that as a way of connecting the party back to normal americans.
Of course I could care less actually. A generation of liberal rule? Sounds good.
My estimates for the PPP polls coming out:
NC: O+3
MO: Tie
PA: O+8
IN: M+1
MT: M+1
OH: O+6
FL: O+2
GA: M+4
NV: O+5
VA: O+9
Whats ur guess
Incontrovertible proof that Obama and the election are making people feel frisky
http://www.google.com/trends?q=sex%2C+love%2C+obama&ctab=0&geo=US&geor=all&date=mtd&sort=0
What time do the PPP polls getg released?
The Obama supporters...RELAX
Jewish Democrats.
We are WINNING! One poll showing McCain down by 6 and ur fretting. But when Obama is down by 5 in AZ it's probably just a little out of reach. I mean come on, Relax. Nate's simulations had a bit of a burp and also, it's why he is doing another polling update. Show some confidence. VA will go Blue, just because some pollster has Obama up by only 3! doesn't mean anything. We all complain about RCP and their avewrages and how they leave polls out and now they are the gold standard because VA went toss up there. Wow, one poll.
I just got a phone call from Bill Clinton!!!!!
Ok...it was a robocall....asking me to vote for Barack Obama and Jim Himes. Done and done!
wv: ablencen - snake oil sold on late night tv infomercials to get six pack abs.
Republican Senator John Ensign from Nevada says Sarah Palin is not ready for the job:
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/11/ensigns_way_off_message.php
mr_focus:
That is HILARIOUS!! Wow I wonder what the explanation is. Guess it could be Republicans looking for Obama sex scandals.
great photography brett.
still like you pumpkin photo the best though, well maybe a toss up with this stump photo.
i have been following this election here too long-stump and toss up sorry...
@ Bex:
Compare that to the considerably more "flaccid" development for McCain and Palin:
Obama, McCain, Palin: Comparative "Google-arousal"
abcnews
54-43 O +1
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/postpoll_110208.html
Fox News is saying that Pew has likely voters 46-45 for McCain. They showed it a few times and said it.
Where is this? I saw this, but it doesn't say what Fox said:
http://people-press.org/report/468/obama-leads-mccain-in-final-days
Which network will have the best election coverage?
My bro lives in Virginia. He is a Republican.
He thinks Obama will win the state 51-48.
I think anyone expecting more than a three-point win in Virginia is being overly optimistic.
abcnews
54-43 O +1, M -1
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/postpoll_110208.html
Fox News is saying that Pew has likely voters 46-45 for McCain. They showed it a few times and said it.
HUH??? Final Pew poll has O +6
In fact, I think Fox News just completely lied/made up those polling numbers. WTF?
ABC News/Washington Post Daily Tracking Poll
Among LV's:
-----------
Obama - 54
McCain - 43
Among RV's
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Obama - 54
McCain - 42
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/postpoll_110208.html
PS- There was no confusion. They shows the graphic quite a few times and then talked to Larry Sabato about it, who said he hadn't seen it. It was Neil Cavuto. Someone on the Pollster thread made a comment on it to.
What the hell are they doing?
"Until the GOP can appeal to secular independents in the West and working class Democrats in the Midwest, they are going to be a minority party."
They have to acknowledge that the culture wars have been lost -- the generation of people who cared about whether someone was gay, etc., is passing on -- and get back to their small-government roots. Otherwise, they're going the way of the Know-Nothings.
*sigh*One of the downsides of only having a cell phone is no robocalls from Bill Clinton -- last time I got one I left it on my voicemail for months!
Since this is the first and probably the last time I'll comment here, I just want to give Nate, Sean and Brett kudos for their marvelous work!
Important to note that the head of the Colorado GOP is that Karl Rove impersonator, Dick Wadhams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Wadhams
Heck of a job, Dickey!
I don't like how white Florida has become in the map.....
What does Charlie Crist have up his sleeve?
@pat andriola
@winniechili
They picked that number from the LV's who plan to vote on election day..in other words they are completely discounting the 32% who already voted and the other 7% who plan to vote before election day :-)
I wonder what Nate's model would say about McCain's chances if it accounted for what we know about early-voting demographics.
Significantly less than 6%, I'd wager.
They are making up numbers based on the line item on those who have not voted yet.
Wow. That is horrible.
Fox News isn't "making it up", but they're taking one line from this paragraph in Pew's report out of context:
"Obama holds a wide lead over John McCain among those who say they have already voted (32% of all likely voters) or say they plan to vote before Election Day (7%). However, it is not quite as large as it was a week ago. More significant, the race is about even among voters who plan to vote on Election Day: 46% support McCain while 45% favor Obama."
Pretty typical Faux News reporting - exaggerate the thing that will excite their viewership.
My WV: bonesh. So many lines, so little time.....
"Fox News is saying that Pew has likely voters 46-45 for McCain. They showed it a few times and said it."
Fox news said that? Naw....
The last couple days (and probably the next few days too) have been a giant exercize of republicans just making shit up. Come to think about it, that's pretty much the logical conclusion to the Bush/Cheney administration.
@mr_focus.
Ha ha Palin is all over the place. As in graphs so in life...
wv: dorne. Americans will experience a new dorne on November 5th. (Sorry.)
Just amazing here in Colorado how motivated people are. I am No of Denver in what was a fairly red area and am surprised to see more of my neighbors with Obama signs then ever before. Oh what a bond it brings! Smiles all over the place though I can tell you I am still nervous and working. VA poll is enough to inspire me to volunteer more hours. All of my family have taken as much work off as possible to volunteer as many hours as they can. I am so proud of them! 4 years ago I was looking at cars at Elways place not far from my house and when Elway came out for Bush SO for Bush I just walked away from his salesroom. The guy kept calling me back and I said no way so not sure if you want to be a celebrity endorser and run a business. My kids still think Elway is the greatest but avoid speaking about him in my presence. I will be very happy if he runs for Governor because Ritter is fantastic and it will motivate me to work all the harder for him.
marleda
Speaking of Colorado, (ha! great seque, no?) our second favorite pundit Chuck Todd is on MSNBC at this very moment, talking about the new Mason Dixon polls. He says that the Colorado poll is a big plus for Obama -- even though it's closer than other recent polls -- because it represents a healthy swing form Mason Dixon's last numbers. Finally someone has the perspective right.
As I was typing, he just said this: "I urge you please, don't compare different pollsters, compare the same pollsters and their changing numbers." Thank you, Chuck! Let's all keep our heads. This thing is almost over and we'll win.
WV: INDING, as in "The Republican stronghold on the country is INDING."
"n fact, I think Fox News just completely lied/made up those polling numbers. WTF?"
Fox News lied? Unbelievable.
The pew poll said that of that 32% of people who voted have voted heavily for Obama but of the people who are voting on election day it`s 46-45 for McCain.
Typical fox distortion.Overall his lead is 49-42 with likely voters and they are guessing 52-46 for a final figure
I just wanted to throw this in. This time 4 years ago, kerry was up against bush by 1 in polls. He won by more than that.
And people on here are puking their lunch over the fact that obama is "only" up 5-6
That above statement was in regards to Pennsylvania.
Quick thought. New Hampshire is losing its power. Its now 20 years since the winner of a competitive New Hampshire primary has won the presidency.
On the Democratic side, the ONLY Democrat to win the NH primary, in a truly competitive race, and win the Presidency is Jimmy Carter.
The state was once fairly solid red, then was expected to bring a new meaning to "purple mountain majesties" this election, then looked fairly solid blue.
I actually think Obama won't cross 50% by much because the state typically has a high 3rd party draw. Both Greens (McKinney) and Libertarians (Barr) have a strong influence on the state. Obama 51-46 or 47 is my pick. Georgia will be the exact situation in reverse, with both Barr and McKinney drawing strong in their home state.
If you're feeling a little bored this afternoon, go check out the internals on the IBD/TIPP poll and figure out which part of the population had to be overly weighted in the sample to get Obama to 47%......
Thank you Shadow.
I've been trying to say the same thing. Pew numbers are very good as well. McCain can't win with just a 46-45 win on election day either.
State polls all look good except from MD which Chuck Todd has know explained.
I like the WashPost tracker. Pretty steady and consistent. Almost like Rasmussen. Let's see if they are right.
Although I like the final Pew numbers overall, and I'm a big fan of their polling, I'm disappointed that they still managed to end up with only 89% of the AA vote for Obama. C'mon guys, you can do better than that!
The 18-29 at 61% seems a little low too.
http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/468.pdf
BBC reports that newly registered minority (read: new democrat voters) voters may be dumped to give McCain a win in Colorado. All because a sitting republican holds a seat in congress for Colorado.
Ok I have to ask...what does WV mean?
so little bonesh
"The final Pew Research poll shows Sen. Barack Obama leading Sen. John McCain, 52% to 46%, among likely voters."
Pews final poll in 2004 was right on the money.
GOP IS AIRING REVEREND WRIGHT ADS!
We knew it would come to this. Now is the time for ALL of you to stop reading blogs and do something just as easy but 100 times more constructive.
Just write a quick email and include the following link. Send it to everyone you know, and instruct them to do the same:
http://ohcitizensforchange.blogspot.com/2008/10/reverend-wright.html
The best way to fight LIES and SMEARS is with FACTS and TRUTH! Do your part to make sure this election isn't stolen!
Latest Rasmussen PA poll: O 52 M 46
better than their earlier poll a couple days ago where it was O-51 M 47
What are the odds on Obama winning Colorado Springs?
--BBC reports that newly registered minority (read: new democrat voters) voters may be dumped to give McCain a win in Colorado. All because a sitting republican holds a seat in congress for Colorado.--
T think you mean that the CO SoS is a Republican, and he is running this year for a US House seat himself
(equers - the gay version of Equus)
@cloudyfuture
Ok I have to ask...what does WV mean?
WV = Word Verification. The pseudoword you have to type in to prove you're a human and not a computer
e.g. vidom
Like Freedom, but with a vi instead of free! Or what ever.
Those are pseudowords--who knew
@leitmotiv
I believe that problem has been resolved:
DENVER (AP) — Thousands of Colorado residents who had been scratched from voter registration rolls will be allowed to cast ballots on Election Day and their votes will be given special protection to ensure they are counted, following the resolution of a federal lawsuit filed against the state.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jEO59UYwxH2aOTkJJiWyLf7P0slQD945Q6P80
wv: rethm -- those of us with no rythm.
[Or better, WV like 'reera', As in "I saw McCain in the reera-view mirra"!]
chrish60 said...
@cloudyfuture
Ok I have to ask...what does WV mean?
WV = Word Verification. The pseudoword you have to type in to prove you're a human and not a computer
++++++++++++++++++++
doh think I would of got that if I had seen word verification to the left of me (well I hope I would think that lol)
Thank you....
little nervous that mccain is gaining on Obama....from a 3% chance of winning to 6%....As a Cubs fan it terrifies me lol...
citizen #1 -- I don't think it's a good idea to be sending out emails about Ayers. Why remind people again? Everyone has heard of him now and Ayers has made no difference in voter preference.
Let them waste their money.
"The 18-29 at 61% seems a little low too."
61% sounds about right. On my college campus the Obama supporters are the ones who showcase their support and wear Obama shirts. However, talking to some friends in private revealed more than a few McCain supporters who have been keeping a low profile because they know they're outnumbered.
Remember, Obama at 61% means he has over a 20 point lead among a demographic group. That's pretty big.
An interesting chart showing when the red states in play this time last voted Democratic
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=9632
I can't remember what site I read it on, but someone did an analysis of how much daily variation all the various tracking polls had. Zogby, unsurprisingly, was by far the most wild and erratic, and the ABC/Wapo was the most stable by quite a bit. It my be foolish on my part, but intuitively, this makes me trust it a lot more than any of the other trackers.
@leitmotiv
Calm down. Colorado's 9 EVs will go to Obama. Colorado will have 2 Dem US Senators, 5 Dem US House members, and a Dem Governor.
"DCM in FL said...
Is it bad I have sexual relations with animals?"
What, Republicans?
EWW
Interesting diary on recent push-polling from Ras...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/2/133315/705/952/649938
The Boss warming up the crowd for Barack in Cleveland:
http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live_asx.html?stream=stream2
Our Republican family is actually abandoning our Republican roots and we're all voting for Obama. I'm sure many Republican families in Colorado are doing the same. McCain-Palin are very poor examples of what a traditional Republican is suppossed to be. Manyof our Republican friends are voting for Obama as well.
-Republican Family for Obama
Springsteen LIVE in Cleveland
for Obama rally.
http://edition.cnn.com/video/live/live_asx.html?stream=stream2
@takestock said...
The 18-29 at 61% seems a little low too.
To put that in perspective..Kerry won that demographic by 9 points and Obama is shown to be leading by 25 in the Pew poll..a 16 point difference even assuming the same turn out among the youth vote as last time at 17% means an addition of 2.7% margin in Popular Vote.
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/10/does-embedding.html
inkstain, have a read.
Chuck Todd on MSNBC - give this guy his own show and move Maddow to mornings.
Sreenu, that openleft link is interesting, but they messed up on Georgia, which voted for Carter twice for President.
WV: actallyz, as in "McCain and Palin are actallyz gonna lose that election."
"What are the odds on Obama winning Colorado Springs?"
0%
El Paso county voted 67% to 32% for Bush in 2004.
Good catch @michael :-)
They should have given Chucky T the Meet the Press show.
anted-cross dressing uncle ed
I was watching the Obama/Sprinsteen rally
seemed the crowd didn't like springsteen, there was a bit of booing for him when he left stage.
On a side note, to those that run poll watcher, being banned from there for posting about McCain rallies being unsavory and expressing my opinion is not reason to be banned.
Looking at you VaCon who I thought was a reasonable republican, but the second you say something he doesn't like he bans you.
C'es La vie
TWO MORE DAYS PEOPLE!!!
markedman: you probably heard the "Bruuuuce" cheer
What makes the final poll from Pew even more interesting is the fact that Iowa Electronic markets have been predicting a 53-47 margin for Obama for a while now :-)
Markedman - you are kidding, right?
They were yelling "BRUUUUUUCCCEEEE" which has been standard for about 33 years now.
Markedman is either having a little fun with us, or has never been to a Springsteen concert....
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!
WV: bucophon. Latin for "one who speaks Pirate".
@markedman
LMFAO
Dude....they were saying Bruuuuuuccccceeeeee
Nobody boos the boss
Anatomy of a close election compared to a blow out.
This day in 2004 Kerry 262-261 Bush. New Jersey was tied. PA was a tossup with Kerry up by 1 point. Kerry was behind in HI, NC, OH, VA, CO, NV, and MI.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/Pres/Maps/Nov02.html
This day in 2008 Obama 353-185. Obama is up in HI, NC, OH, VA, NV, MI and NJ. Obama is farther ahead in every blue state for the matter. GA, AZ, MT, MO, ND and IN are all in striking distance for Obaam.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
So tro//s have your fun for a couple days with the Mason-Dixon polls but Obama is going to win big time.
Predictions from This Week with George Stephanopolos this morning:
Mark Halperin, Time Magazine:
Electoral Vote -- 349 Obama
Senate -- 58 Democratic seats
House -- Democrats net 28 House seats
Matthew Dowd, former Republican strategist:
Electoral Vote -- 338 plus Obama
Senate -- 8 plus pick ups for Democrats
House -- 17 plus pick ups for Democrats
George Will, ABC News contributor:
Electoral Vote -- 378 Obama
Senate -- 8 pick ups for the Democrats
House -- 21 pick ups for the Democrats
Donna Brazile, former Democratic strategist:
Electoral Vote -- Obama 343
Senate - Democrats 59 plus runoff
House - Democrats pick up 29
George Stephanopoulos:
Electoral Vote -- 353 Obama
Senate -- 58 Democrats
House -- House Democrats pick up 28 seats
I'm betting on George Will! The guy knows what he's talking about.
Interesting GOTV story
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1103/p09s02-coop.html
Reason to believe Pennsylvania is locked up 100% for Obama with virtuall zero wiggle room:
#1 There are over 1,000,000+ more Democrats than Republicans registered. Democrats have gained more of a registration advantage in PA than any other statein the country in te last 4 years. They've netted 500,000+ vs the Republicans since 2004.
#2 14 out of 14 elections, every election since 1948, Pennsylvania has voted BLUER/More Democrat than the national popular vote regardless of who won.
#3 40 out of 40 polls from 17 pollsters over the last 5+ weeks have shown Obama ahead
#4 This cycle, just like the 14 previous ones over the last 60 years, Pennsylvania has polled stronger than the rest of the country for Obama consistently. His average has always stayed higher than his national average.
#5 Philadelphia
#6 Ed Rendell is a Jewish Governor
#7 Lynn Swann (black) outperfromed his poll numbers when he ran
Anybody want to bet me that Pennsylvania ends up redder than the rest of the country, I'll take the bet.
McCain campaign had to pretend like they had a chance in PA because they had no choice. If you stop playing offense you look weak. It was for posterity and perception. That's all.
oh PHEW
I was so confused
Bruuuuce sounds a lot like BOOO
especially when watching on TV at low volume
Am I the only one a bit confused about Florida being projected (even marginally) for McCain in "The Model"?
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Check out intrade! McCain's numbers are collapsing. Let's go prediction markets!
Has Chuck Todd ever interviewed anyone on TV? IMHO not a serious runner for the MTP gig. (I'd like to see them shop around outside of NBC by the way. Don't think they are but it would be a cool idea to look at a wide circle, given who they are replacing, and those very big shows).
But his political analysis is very good, nore of an interviewee than an interviewer!
"Anybody want to bet me that Pennsylvania ends up redder than the rest of the country, I'll take the bet."
Ooh, that's a good one. I wouldn't take it even money, but with McCain focusing everything on it and the possibility of a real national blowout, I'd take it at 2:1 if I were a gambling man.
I just listened to Obama channel Malcolm X on his tax policy. That's fuckin' awesome. "Don't be hoodwinked, don't be bamboozled, don't fall for the Okee-doke".
Cheap thrill in Durham NC, I just got my first Obama canvassing visit. Even though we had Obama lawn signs up, they wanted to make sure we'd voted (we had). They also took my phone number for for possible volunteer work on Tuesday.
This was a group of what I'm guessing were college kids. They were polite, well-dressed, and enthusiastic to the extreme.
No McCain activity here.
I'm a pretty generic middle-class/minivan neighborhood.
annwc,
Interesting that on This Week, several of the pundits said there numbers where the floor for Obama, his lowest number possible, and could get more.
I am quite a fan of Matthew Dowd, for someone who worked for George W Bush. Seems very knowledgable and non partisan (also worked for Lloyd Bentsen BTW)
I am a gambling man, and I'll throw $300 at it at 1:3 odds. I'd bet more but I've only got $900 in cash.
Intrade
Obama 88.9
McCain 11.9
McCain Surge !!
I agree with markymark. Chucky T is a lightweigt when it comes to journalism. He should stick with the numbers.
boulder-liberal said...
"What are the odds on Obama winning Colorado Springs?"
0%
El Paso county voted 67% to 32% for Bush in 2004.
I think Obama might net more out of smaller Boulder than McCain out of Colorado Springs. For example, if in Colorado Springs McCain nets 25% of about double Boulder's voting population and Obama nets 50%+ in Boulder, there you go. Colorado Springs is cancelled out. Now, how much will Obama win Denver and surrounding by, pletny to offset more than the rest of the state.
Joe the Plumber labels Obama "traitor"
sreenu:
To put that in perspective..Kerry won that demographic by 9 points and Obama is shown to be leading by 25 in the Pew poll..a 16 point difference even assuming the same turn out among the youth vote as last time at 17% means an addition of 2.7% margin in Popular Vote.
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It's important to note that the 18-29 demographic has changed quite a bit from 2004 as the 22 yr-old dems are now 26 yr olds, and a new batch of 18-22 dems have rolled in. Pew themselves discusses party ID change for 18-29 here:
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1018/democrats-post-gains-in-affiliation-across-age-cohorts
The dem party ID for 18-29 is around 61% now compared to 48% in 2004. So getting 61% (exactly!) in the latest poll for Obama is not that great compared to Kerry's results. I think it's really a little higher, maybe 65%-68%.
this Joe the Plumber guy is crazy
calling a presidential candidate from a major party a "traitor"
Colorado is an awesome place to live- but don't tell anyone. :) 70F today with leaves still changing colors along the Front Range- absolutely ridiculous.
The occasional freaky legislation, such as the current "Amendment 48" sucks though. Because we are considered a swing state they're always trying to get controversial legislation passed. It's annoying.
RE: Joe the Plumber labels Obama "traitor"
The gift that keeps on giving! If anyone other than the rabid-right Republican BASE gets anything out of that I would be very surprised.
Anyone who didn't think Samuel (Joe) the (unlicensed) plumber was a McCain PLANT from the start hasn't been watching this election :)
Joe the Plumber labels Obama "traitor"
Is this guy for real????!!!???
"McCain will spend much of the day in the air while traveling to six states - starting the day in Tampa, FL, he then heads to Blount County, TN"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/02/where-they-are-today-and_n_140202.html
Why is Mccain in Tn? Is it because of the early voting numbers? Here in TN., 1,550,939 people have voted early, more than half that voted in 2004. In 2004, 2,437,319 was the total vote summary. That's a difference of 886,380 votes.
http://www.state.tn.us/sos/election/results/2004-11/prescounty.pdf
Concern Troll said...
Which network will have the best election coverage?
MSNBC by far. If for no other reason than for the arguments between Tweety, Keith O, Morning Joe, Rachel Maddow, Pat Buchanan, David Shuster, and so on... The YouTube clips during the primaries were hilarious.
Also, out of all the cable news bimbos, Norah O'Donnell is the easiest on the eyes.
Shit, I forgot that Tom Brokaw stepped in and told NBC to punt Olbermann and Chris Matthews from their election night coverage, at least in a serious capacity. Instead they're going with Brokaw himself and Karl Rove's dance partner, and McCain Weenie, David Gregory. Hopefully eccentricity and disfunction prevails.
Sorry, off topic, and someone may have already posted this, but a dailykos blogger reports on their robo poll from rasmussen, including a, to them, somewhat unusual, and possibly slanted question.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/2/133315/705/952/649938
obistert
"His ideology is different than what democracy stands for" -
JtP. Even his Fox interviewer seemed to scoff at that notion, gave him a chance to backtrack (the quote above is after his lack of loyalty statement.)
I think I'll watch FOX on election night. The thought of Hannity's head exploding makes me smile.
CO seems to have a large and organized voter protection group in place. I am working one vote center, which is 3 precincts. In Douglas county. There are people all over the state, inside and outside the polls. There is a plan to deal with making sure those wrongfully purged get to vote, same for those who never received their mail in ballots. Also for most other issues you can think of. This is NOT like 00 or 04. I believe CO will be blue for sure, but I'm also thinking the race will be called before I'm done at the polling place here. That is, if all goes as it appears to be going and to have gone in early voting.
In addition to the local volunteers, there are people from non battleground states that the obama campaign has disbursed around to the battlegrounds for election day too. The meeting yesterday was awe inspiring.
"Why is Mccain in Tn?"
Because that media market overlaps into Virginia
Election night coverage-
Fox News will make the first call (either way they are just trigger happy on numbers).
CNN will not call until they are sure they are right.
Comedy Central will follow the real news leads and John Stewarts Indecision series is usually quite entertaining.
I would bet on NBC to have the best coverage. Brian Williams is a good anchor. Next is CNN. Though I miss the old CNN political music they used in 2000.
I don't plan on being home on election night but I am DVRing Fox News. I just want to be able to watch the reactions when (hopefully) O is declared the winner.
I love this ad at the bottom of 538 for McCain. It's on Obama and Acorn. More than anything, it demonstrates to me what kind of fucktards are running the McCain campaign. There are so many damned words on the pdf they're distributing it's like they have _absolutely no training_ in honing a message.
Fuckin' idiots. Click on it and send a few of Johnnyboy's pennies in Nate's direction.
I'm not sure what MSNBC is doing election night. They changed their initial plans about the debates, and Olbermann and Matthews got major play except the 20 minutes right after each debate.
NBC has the broadcast network - with huge ratings at stake - as well as MSNBC, unless they plan to simulcast the two. (Does Fox Network and FNC simulcast?) They also said before that Matthews and Olbermann would appear election night, just not host.
(mobegilt - Yiddish for regretting one's love of Melville)
I like external confirmation as much as the next person, so I'll watch a little MSNBC. Basically, I was going to go C-Span/PBS, but I do get HDNet, so I'm going to watch Nate.
wv - fates how appropriate is that?
Lets have some drinking game suggestions!
You take a drink every time fox mentions ACORN.
My favorite MSNBC clip from the primaries - Olbermann & Scarborough react to McCain's New Hampshire victory speech
http://crooksandliars.com/node/18440
WHAT is a microcosm of an issue or collection of issues? Till you tell me that I can't see the outstandingness of the point Todd made.
I actually have the option from my cable company of watching live election coverage on the French network TV5Monde with English subtitles as well as BBC. I wish I could TIVO a bunch of networks.
Ha ha! I saw an Ayers TV ad in SEATTLE this morning. And if that isn't a waste of money I don't know what is...
new thread
I think I'll watch FOX on election night. The thought of Hannity's head exploding makes me smile.
If Obama wins early and big, they will be showing replays of "Sean Hannity's America" by 11:30.
Sorry I mean drinking game for ELECTION NIGHT!
So ON Election night every time fox mentions ACORN you take a tdrink
You also take a drink when Bill Kristol says something the direct opposite of what he said before and denies he was wrong
http://patriotroom.com/?p=3739
Everyone read this link if you want to laugh long and hard.
New thread:
"What a McCain Win Looks Like"
Nate==Traitor.
Real Joe said...
this Joe the Plumber guy is crazy
calling a presidential candidate from a major party a "traitor"
Or are we crazy for treating Joe the Plumber guy as someone whose words should get national coverage...
WV: acrok—oddly appropriate for JtP
PSA: Trolls are not trolls because they persistently post objectionable views. They are trolls because they do it not to convince anyone of these views, but for the lulz. The reason you don't feed the trolls isn't because they are morons, but because they're only doing it to get you riled up. Do not engage in actual discussion, unless they accidentally bring up a point and you have a well-articulated argument to make that may benefit others reading.
That is, I am convinced petekent is a troll; whatever the severe delusions of freeptards, not even original petekent was supposed to be one of them (puma, right?) so certainly fake petekent isn't as deluded as a freeper either. I just wanted to say, since I am worried he's going to give shadowguidex an aneurysm or something.
wv: I may injor myself (or someone else) if I ever have to listen to Caribou Barbie again.
I do NOT want to watch coverage dominated by Brokaw and Gregory. And yuck to Buchanan. If it's mostly the rest of the MSNBC crew, that's what I will watch.
Would love to watch Rather and Nate, but don't have HDnet.
PeteKent was a real poster, and a fairly nasty and belligerent one. Who ever is posting under that handle now is a troll and not the original guy, however.
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I think Obama might net more out of smaller Boulder than McCain out of Colorado Springs. "
I don' think so.
Those Focus on the Family whack jobs in Colorado Springs are not going to stay at home with Palin on the ticket.
The turnout in Denver and Pueblo will make the difference this year.
In 2004
Boulder Co.
Kerry 66.3% 105,564
Bush 32.4% 51,586
Other 1.3% 2,109
El Paso
Kerry 32.1% 77,648
Bush 66.7% 161,361
Other 1.1% 2,779
How about this electoral map:
Obama wins Kerry states- New Hampshire and Pennsylvania =
227 electoral votes + New Mexico 5, Iowa 7, Virginia 13, Colorado 9, Nevada 5 = 266
266 + drumroll please... Montana and it's 3 electoral votes = 269.
Championship goes to Obama in a tie.
That would be about the most hilarious way in history to stick to the Pubs.
New thread!
wv: pones - plural of pone, as in corn pone!
Eric said...
"Reason to believe Pennsylvania is locked up 100% for Obama with virtuall zero wiggle room:
#4 This cycle, just like the 14 previous ones over the last 60 years, Pennsylvania has polled stronger than the rest of the country for Obama consistently. His average has always stayed higher than his national average."
Eric, I'm a little bit confused here. Can you please explain what Obama's age was 60 years ago, and how it is possible he is still running today while at the same time McShame's age seems to be some kind of an issue?
LAst week, Obama drew a crowd of nearly 150,000 between Denver and Fort Collins.
McCain, just a few days earlier drew a crowd of about 4,000 in Denver.
I know that doesn't equate an Obama victory, but dayam.
Gotta say, some extremely fine photography on this shot, very inspiring. Near mid and far, it is all there and very interesting. Incredible light. Kudos, best of a great series.
The plural of scenario in English is scenarios.
Pedantry fail.
wv- epatear, a bastardization of "epic tears," which McCain supporters will be crying on Tuesday night by early evening.
As a native CO resident living in the midwest (but moving back home very, very soon), I can say that I am so proud of all the work put in and the progressive effort in my home state. The sky is so blue, and now our politics match!
Denver is my ideal place to live. Perfect weather. Beautiful scenary. Nice people. I also like how everyone is active there. No surprise Colorado was named again the less obsese State in the union.
So what is the purpose of Chris Matthews who claims to personally support Barack showing the entire Reverand ad ? Why? and of course have a black conservative person speaking. Might just change channel over to FOX. I have not watched Fox though in years but the earlier post about watching it Tuesday is something to ponder. Please post interesting and often I have to get through the next few hours... and then will volunteer tomorrow.
wv oxiest ... and at my age!
You call that a great point? Todd's comment, and your appraisal, I'm afraid, both echo in a grand canyon of historical ignorance.
The Right used Chile as its "petri dish" for economic shock therapy, beginning with a US sponsored coup on 9/11/1973, Yes, that's September 11, 1973.
NAOMI KLEIN: "And so, the Chicago Boys were born. And it was considered a success, and the Ford Foundation got in on the funding. And hundreds and hundreds of Latin American students, on full scholarships, came to the University of Chicago in the 1950s and ’60s to study here to try to engage in what Juan Gabriel Valdes, Chile’s foreign minister after the dictatorship finally ended, described as a project of deliberate ideological transfer, taking these extreme-right ideas, that were seen as marginal even in the United States, and transplanting them to Latin America. That was his phrase--that is his phrase." http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/6/naomi_klein
The world has seen enough of politicians using us, the electorate, and our lands, as their freakin' petri dishes.
radio show host announced that zogby has new poll numbers for Monday and that listeners should have a blue crayon ready...
Republicans are dead in Colorado for exactly the same reason they are dead everywhere.
They brutally insulted Hispanic voters during the last 8 years. Remember all those Hispanic-Americans marching in protest a couple of years ago?
What was the response of the right-wing? Attack them for carrying Mexican flags and being "un-American!"
Pure racism! You don't see anybody attacking Irish Americans for marching with the Irish flag or Polish Americans marching with Polish flags or Italian Americans marching with Italian flags.
Just pure race hatred. And it's had it's result. Obama is getting 65% of the Hispanic vote and the generation gap is even more severe.
"What's shaping up is not comparable to '92, the last time a Democrat won the White House. "It's much more serious and devastating to Republicans," says Stan Greenberg, who was Bill Clinton's pollster. Democrats lost seats in '92; Clinton had no coattails. Obama may enter the White House with close to a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and a doubling of the Democratic margin in the House. This is a watershed election. Typically, every four years, somebody wins, somebody loses, and life goes on. But Obama represents generational change that has huge political repercussions. He wins 63 percent of voters between the ages of 18 and 29. For the Republicans, "It's not just a lost election, it's a lost generation," says Greenberg."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/166680
I worked with the campaign for Obama this weekend in Colorado and people are excited about this. The McCain people are grumpy, but he attracts grumpy people.
I do have to differ with the person who said there is not discrimination against Irish Americans or Italian Americans. True now, not in the past. Every new wave of immigration has also brought out the racism in some people. When I was a small child I was 'a dirty little mick'
Keep it in perspective and read some history.
On the other hand...stay mad til after the election!!!
The weather in the Colorado front range is fantastic. Today, November 2nd, I canvassed (again!) under a bright blue sky and t-shirt temperatures.
And the people are nice. That includes most libertarians and conservatives, as a matter of fact. Okay, not all: a fellow canvasser, a retired medical doctor who moved here from Charlotte, was recently threatened by a woman who interrupted his introduction as an Obama canvasser to tell him she' have to get her gun...
I talked to a 73 year old lady today who voted Dem but was cautious about Obama's prospect: "I know quite a few who won't vote for him just because he's black" (she then tried to interest me in some land she's selling near Glenwood Springs...)
Denver has the most awesome yard sales in America. When I lived in Rapid City (armpit of America), I'd make the trip by car once a month, just for those. You were better off driving rather than flying, back in the Stapleton days. Ugh. You might save an hour or two going by plane (maybe), but only if you didn't get a stroke from the explosive rise of blood pressure from dealing with that place.
As a CO native, I have to say don't get your hopes up too much. I think Obama is going to win this time, but because he's an extraordinary candidate and people here are sick of the Rove-style Republicans.
If Hillary had gotten the nomination, CO would be dark red. If McCain had run the kind of campaign he ran in 2000, we would be pink.
Also keep in mind that a lot of people here like Palin. Not so much because they're frothing fundies (though we have plenty of those), but because they see her as an ordinary person whose trying to do the right thing--one of "us".
We still like our taxes low and the government out of our face. Even a liberal like me; I refuse to vote for any anti-gay candidate (in my case, Musgrave and Katie Witt) because I think the government should just leave people alone. Though we've had a lot of new people come into the state, we haven't forgotten our libertarian roots. If that faction of the Republicans wins out in the next few cycles, then we'll go right back to red.
So while there has been a real swing blue here, I thinks it's going to prove fickle.
YAY!!!!
My big brother shipped his butt to Colorado to fight "THE GOOD FIGHT"...
Yesterday was my b-day and i don't even care about that, I JUST WAN'T OBAMA TO CHANGE THE WORLD 4 ALL OF US!!!
IT'S A MUST!!!
THANK U KRISZ!!!
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A lot of Coloradans dislike political shenanigans, and lately the Republicans have taken the lead on that front. Newspapers that used to reliably endorse Republican are now endorsing more Democrats, though rarely in a straight ticket. This could easily swing the other way if the Republicans can reestablish their image as the party that keeps government out of the way. Unfortunately for them, the Focus on the Family base wants to get the government (on behalf of the church) more involved in people's lives.
To the commenter wondering about Mormons: they're concentrated around Colorado Springs, but a lot of cities have an LDS presence (even Boulder). Someone I worked with in college said most of her high school in the Springs were Mormon.
WV: mendera - A public relations company specializing in rebuilding political brands.
This analysis is right on. I am one of those "secular independents in the West", and I have been so turned off by the Focus on the Family, religious conservative, anti-science brand of politics that I've been registered Republican since 2000 for the specific purpose of voting against those Republicans in primaries (as well as in general elections of course).
I voted for McCain in this last primary, and have already cast an early vote for Obama.
Down with ignorance, long live science.
There is not a large Mormon population in CS. I grew up there. There are LDS churches there, yet they are no more prevalent as Baptists or the Focus crowd, or, the dude that hooked up with the male prostitute in Denver- what was that dude's name- anyway, that's one of those "mega-churches" that happens to be more of the Pentacostal vein.
There are also many mainstream churches in and around the Springs, including a huge number of Presbyterian, Methodist, Catholic, Unitarians and Episcopalians are concentrated around CS's old North End near Colorado College, as are many of the liberal/progressives that have been shaken out of complacency since the early 90's (remember Amendment 2 and the Promise Keepers?).
While I highly doubt BHO will win CS, it is unfathomable that McCain will garner the 62% that Bush did in '04. There are many fiscal conservatives that will vote for BHO is what I am hearing.
Mormons are not a part of any real political equation in CO or CS. CO is too libertarian for that kind of Church/State thing. We are not Utah. We never will be. There are 5 times as many people in CO as in UT and CO is wayyyy more diverse. The demographic is changing too rapidly even in El Paso county. I would venture to guess that BHO could pick up 42-46% of El Paso vote.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/nov/02/anti-mccain-banner-flown-over-invesco-field/
baahhaa!!
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/11/03/newlifechurch/
"New Life isn't just any megachurch. Its founding pastor, the Rev. Ted Haggard, once led the National Association of Evangelicals. He helped rally his flock -- and conservative Christians around the country -- behind George W. Bush's reelection campaign four years ago. For a time it seemed New Life, the largest church in Colorado, was set to be the vanguard of a political movement that would put the Bible into policymaking for years to come, as Karl Rove and evangelical leaders like Haggard teamed up to turn the country red.
But that was before Haggard was forced out of his post after a scandal involving methamphetamines and a gay hooker, two elements that don't go over that well among fundamentalists, and especially not when mixed together. Two days later, Republicans lost control of Congress in the 2006 elections. Now, two days before another election, with the polls pointing toward a Barack Obama victory both in Colorado and nationwide, the country no longer quite seems to be going New Life's way."
Doh! The meth and the gay hooker... not good for the GOP, nope, not good one bit...
Oh, Hunter, you took your life depressed over Kerry's loss... what I would do to read your faxes to Carville these days.
Hunter S. Thompson might say something akin to: "make the pigfuckers pay with blood...", which might offend your liberal sensibilities, yet that is what the GOP deserves: years in the wilderness, if not outright public humiliation.
Progressives with teeth is what this country needs. Let 'em call you socialist. I smell blood. Keep 'em scared.
"Fuck those people." -HST
MSNBC will be co-hosted by KO and Matthews, with Gregory anchoring.
No, I don't know what that all means either.
Frankly, CO has been too hot this time of year. It's annoying. But we should have good weather for the lines on Tuesday.
Religious Left - yes, there are Mormons in Colorado. Mostly over here in the SW corner of the state.
But yeah, we're going blue. About a month ago registration numbers flipped for both the state and my county (La Plata - where Durango is) and now we have more Dems than GOP. But more independents than both, and they tend to be libertarian-types.
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And so we are down the our last 3 stops on the road to 270...
The District of Columbia:
With it's 3 electoral votes and a voting population greater than the state of Wyoming, the District of Columbia cannot be forgotten. Imagine if we disenfranchised Wyoming by taking away its one voting right in the House and it's 2 Senate votes and you have an idea of what it's like for the often ignored residents of the District of Columbia. None the less, the District of Columbia will most likely end up as one of the biggest victories for the Obama campaign come election day, Elanor Holmes Norton will easily maintain her non-voting House Congressional seat.
Ohio:
Ohio is a state which the John Kerry considered the final nail in the coffin in his 2004 bid for President, where he lost by a very narrow, and some Democrats say questionable, margin. This year, Ohio seems just as tight and it's importance in this election can not be underestimated.
Virginia:
I call the Commonwealth home and thus look most forward to the summary of this Tippingest of Tipping Point states. Things to watch out for here is the congressional race in the 11th district, with Representative Tom Davis retiring in a bid for John Warner's opened senate seat and then getting out-flanked by former Governor Jim "No Car Tax" Gillmore by holding the Republican Senatorial selection process in Caucuses which favoured Gillmore. Meanwhile, Gillmore's successor, Democrat Mark Warner, is very much in line to win the Senate seat he could not win 12 years ago in the 3-Warner race between John Warner, businessman Mark Warner and another Warner as a third-party challenge. Then, John Warner easily maintained his Senate seat and Mark Warner went on to be a very popular, budget-balancing and fiscally responsible Governor of the Commonwealth. All signs point to the Virginia Senate seat remaining with a Warner. Current Governor Tim Kaine, Mark Warner's chosen successor and college friend of Senator Obama was once considered a favourite for a Vice-Presidential position before Russia invaded Georgia and forced Omama to choose Joe Biden, with his extensive Senatorial Foreign Policy experience. None the less, as Virginia's chief Democrat, Kaine is not only predicting the 11th Congressional District being vacated by Tom Davis, an R+1 district, going to Fairfax County Supervisor Jerry Connolly over challenger Keith Fimian, but that at least one other seat could go blue, from either the 2nd, 5th or 10th Districts. Most pundits would say the 5th district, which extends from the University of Virginia at Charlottesville in the north to the North Carolina border in the South and incorporates much of central Virginia. In the 5th District, Republican Congressperson Virgil Goode is running for re-election against Democrat Tom Perriello, whose early fund raising demonstrates a sizable challenge, as well as potential new voters from the University of Virginia. In the 2nd district, Republican Congressperson Thelma Drake is running against Democratic Challenger Glenn Nye. The 2nd district incorporates Virginia Beach and the Eastern Shore, with a large Military constituency as well as a very urban electorate. The makes for a well-divided district, with the Military numbers favouring Republicans and the Urbanization favouring Democrats. None the less, apart from the blue region of Upper Virginia, Newport News / Virginia Beach tend to represent the most Democratic-leaning part of the Commonwealth. Finally, the 10th district has gained a bit of national attention for the caning incident of last month. 2 years ago, Democrat Judy Feder challenged 13-term Republican Congressperson Frank Wolf, only to loose by 16 points, with 3rd party candidate Neeraj Nigam getting about 3/4 of a percent in that same election. Now, the 3 candidates again face-off, this time as Frank Wolf attempts to obtain a 15th congressional term. The 10th Congressional District incorporates the North-Western part of Virginia, Winchester, Front Royal and Leesburg and the quasi-DC suburbs of Manassas, Chantilly, north Herndon, Great Falls and McLean. This district was constructed to contain the richest suburbs of Fairfax County and the semi-rural northern part of Virginia. Urban Manassas, Chantilly and McLean should favour Feder this time around, with the west going for Wolf. That leaves the Republican-leaning norther DC suburbs the real deciding factor in this race. One thing I can recommend to any person in the 10th congressional district to disambiguate the hype around the Caning incident of a few weeks ago is to watch the full debate between Feder and Wolf, sponsored by the Manassas 100: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7212111572046573337&hl=en
Despite the rhetoric of the recent assault, my own take on this particular race is not if Congressperson Wolf will maintain his seat, but by how many points he will. Can Dr. Feder narrow that 16 point gap to 10 or even 5? Or will she hit one out of the park and surprise all signs to the contrary and unseat popular Congressperson and centrist Republican Frank Wolf. These questions and others we shall find out tomorrow...
Thanks for that exhaustive post on Virginia in a thread about Colorado.
Anyway, 95,000 Mormons in a state of 4.5 million- that's not much. They are probably mostly concentrated near UT border, not far from Monticello, with a scattered few on the Front Range and other communities. That is opposed to something like 72% of Utah and just over 50% of SLC. Ironically, SLC is way more liberal than CS. I think CS will see a tightening over 2004. Denver suburbs and turnout in rest of state looking good for BHO- not all the rural areas are so red- mountain ski towns are more balanced. NM border counties are more blue. Roaring Fork Valley has grown significantly in population and diversity of dempographic. Pueblo is reliably blue. Ft. Collins and Greeley are getting bigger and more diverse. Durango is another balanced town. Grand Junction moght be better for BHO than 04 too.
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