Minnesota's Canvassing Board today unanimously rejected a request by the Al Franken campaign to mandate that absentee ballots initially rejected as invalid be reconsidered, essentially declaring that it does not have jurisdiction to do so. However, the Franken campaign has at least two mechanisms by which those votes may in fact be counted.
The first is that the Canvassing Board will reconvene next week to consider a proposal to have county officials sort through their absentee ballots to determine which absentee ballots appeared to have no valid reason for rejection -- a so-called "fifth pile" of ballots, as there are four valid criteria in Minnesota for rejecting absentees. The Canvassing Board could then rule that ballots in the fifth pile be counted. The Franken campaign seems inclined to let this process play out for now; in the meantime, at least one county (Itasca) appears as though it may re-evaluate the rejected absentee ballots on its own, without awaiting instructions from the state.
The second mechanism would be to do the good, old-fashioned American thing and sue. It is quite likely that the Franken campaign will sue if the Canvassing Board does not mandate that the "fifth pile" ballots be counted; the reporters at The Uptake think such a lawsuit would have a fair chance of prevailing.
The St. Paul Pioneer press reports that about 12,000 absentee ballots were rejected statewide. Undoubtedly, the vast majority of these were rejected for valid reasons, but reviews of such ballots in counties like Ramsey (St. Paul) have revealed that material numbers were rejected due to human error, and Minnesota's Secretary of State, Mark Ritchie, has estimated that between 500 and 1,000 absentees were rejected improperly.
The behavior of both the Coleman and Franken campaigns would suggest that Franken stands to gain if these absentee ballots are reconsidered, but the extent of the potential gain is hard to determine. In late October, a Public Policy Polling survey showed Al Franken with an 8-point lead over Norm Coleman among persons who had already voted, although that survey slightly overestimated Franken's support overall. Most likely, Franken would stand to add a vote for somewhere between 1 in every 10 improperly rejected absentee ballots, and 1 in every 20. Given this range and the estimate of improperly rejected absentees provided by Ritchie, that would suggest that Franken campaign stands to gain a net of somewhere between 25 and 100 votes if these ballots are in fact counted by the state.
As of early yesterday, the Franken campaign told reporters that it was within 84 votes of Coleman on the assumption that all ballot challenges are rejected, a different assumption than the Secretary of State makes in providing its accounting of the state of the recount. This estimate roughly squares with attempts I have been making to infer the frequencies of different types of challenges on behalf of each campaign, and their concomitant impact on the state's reported totals.
If the Franken campaign's estimate is correct, that would put them on pace to be within 40-50 ballots of Coleman should all ballot challenges be rejected. The Franken campaign could then prevail in the recount in one of two ways. Firstly, a higher fraction of their challenges could be accepted. This is not entirely unlikely, especially if a higher proportion of the Coleman campaign's challenges fall into 'Type 1', which are challenges of ballots deemed legal by the local elections judge -- my inference is that 'Type 1' challenges are especially unlikely to be accepted. The second way is if the rejected absentee ballots are re-considered.
Franken attorney Marc Elias also suggested at his press conference today that the Franken campaign will be reviewing its challenges, and might unilaterally withdraw challenges that it considers to be frivolous before the Canvassing Board meets in December. If this were to happen, Coleman would gain a lot of ground in the state's running tally -- but Franken, arguably, would re-gain the moral highground. The Coleman campaign, for its part, has suggested to Franken's attorneys that it might be willing to consider a bi-lateral process for withdrawing certain challenged ballots.
11.26.2008
Minnesota Canvassing Board Punts on Rejected Absentee Ballots
by Nate Silver @ 3:23 PM
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of course coleman wants to drop the challenge issue after it runs wild challenging everthing in site yeswterday.
i dont see any point in the franken camp dropping their challenges. i hate the moral high ground its where all the losers stand looking up at the statue of the guy who screwed them and won.
"Punting" I think is exactly the right word. The Star Tribune briefly termed it a "blow" to Franken in a version of the story that was lower down on their main page, but their lead version has always had this sub-head above the byline:
"Canvassing Board members stressed that they weren't rejecting the arguments made by Franken's attorneys, and they made it clear that they expect the issue to go to court"
Meanwhile, I would be nice to track how the "84 behind"---which I believe is pegged to close-of-business Monday night---relates to events since then. Still a lot of challenges, especially in Hennepin County.
What remains constant in the Coleman/Franken race to date is that Coleman has won on election day, won withe mandatory machine recount, continues to win in the hand recount. Franken knows he has no chance in winning based on the recount votes now being hand counted. By their own estimate (and you can assume it is optimistic) they are behind by 84 votes. There simply are not enough votes yet to be counted to make up this difference based on the 85% of the vote already counted with the 15% remaining (Stat 101).
Franken's absentee ballot strategy blew up today. His true objective was to bust open each of the 6300 rejected votes and start a free for all with the canvassing board. Out of this chaos, Franken would claim he had won, it would be appealed and land in the US Senate where his Democratic allies would seat him. Nate, this is what's happening in Minnesota - the true scoop.
Franken is not interested in the 'fifth pile' approach because it is known (and reported by the StarTribune) that the number of ballots that would fall into the 'fifth pile' would be a handful, no more than 25, not nearly enough to make a difference for Franken.
Nate, get your concession speech ready, Al has lost - he's on his way back to New York City and Air America!
Turn out the lights, Franken's crack party is over.
Time for the stooge to look for another job. They don't want him on SNL. They don't even want him on Air America.
Maybe he can apply for an extension of unemployment benefits.
I don't see any point in unilaterally withdrawing challenges at this point. All that does is highlight the fact that at some point, some of the ballots that you challenged were in fact "frivolous", and Coleman would spin that relentlessly. That's the problem when you're dealing with people who have no intention of making a good faith argument. The thing that Republicans do better than anything else is denying wrongdoing or blame. It's a shame that we've come to this, but it'll do us no good to disarm without acknowledging the problem.
wv: facychom (n) The act of being annoyingly disingenuous while smiling at your face.
"Norm Coleman's gesture for a bi-lateral process to withdraw certain ballots was nothing but pure political facychom."
Jack-be-nimble-
Coleman is going to jail.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/1008/Lawsuit_Colemans_wife_received_75000_in_payments.html
Nate, I saw you've been monitoring The UpTake's live blog on the Canvassing Board. I want to correct something you said about our coverage. You said we reported that Franken would likely prevail in a lawsuit against the state canvassing board. That is not what I wrote. What I wrote is:
Ultimately I think a there will be a class-action lawsuit for the voters or the improperly rejected absentee ballots will be accepted and counted.
I have no idea if Franken would prevail in any lawsuit that his campaign files. That's why they have judges.
The obvious frivolous challenges -- by both parties, I believe -- are those in which the marking of the vote for Senator was clear and unambiguous and the only "reason" for the challenge was the fact that the voter supported a different party for president. Those challenges were absurd on their face. (Examples were documented in the Minneapolis Star-Trib.)
If Coleman wins, he likely will be among the top 5 pro-Obama GOP Senators, that is unless he switches and joins the Dem caucus, which I wouldn't rule out.
So don't be all that happy about his possible success trolls.
franken has already filed a lwasuit about this good article
http://minnesotaindependent.com/18744/canvassing-board-turns-down-request-to-examine-rejected-absentee-ballots
Michael: There was no mandatory machine recount.
I stopped reading your comment after that misstatement of fact, so I don't know if there are more.
People need to stop pontificating about things where they clearly lack basic knowledge to support them. It's worse than unhelpful.
What I love about this race is that it has become so important to the idiots like Ass Rider and Jack the Pimple.
Seriously? A recount vote to get to 41 or 42 senators? Did you ever think your vile, ignorant brand of politics would be reduced to this? I'm sure if you did, you would have never gone off the meds.
C, I stand corrected. It was a mandatory audit:
"On Tuesday, Secretary of State Mark Ritchie confirmed that Coleman widened his lead against Franken by 9 votes following a post-election audit and is now ahead of the former Saturday Night Live writer by 215 votes out of nearly 3 million ballots cast.
The razor-thin margin triggered an automatic recount, which, under state law, is required if the election results between the candidates falls within a one-half of 1%."
Each of the counties, for every election, under Minnesota law must have a mandatory audit of the votes that are submitted to the state canvassing board. Coleman had the most votes after the audit as he did from the ballot box figures on election night.
And he remains ahead...
Michael:
How can you say that the recount is clearly over for Franken and that he has lost? How can you say that that's the true scoop?
Let's put this simply:
1) Coleman's challenges will more than likely be accepted in a lower percentage than Franken's (much lower) because of challenges like the fact that a vote for McCain must've intended a vote for Coleman...
2) Franken's will be more successful because his lawyers or better trained and have probably picked ballots more likely to be overturned and have the challenges upheld.
So yes if all challenges are removed Coleman is still leading but not all challenges are created equal...
So in Primer terms, is the Canvassing Board's decision that no Type 2 and Type 3 challenges (those that the election judges on recount deemed to be 'no' votes) will be reconsidered? Nate's Primer is incredibly helpful; I wish the Canvassing Board would use his terminology.
Michael is a Republican troll.
He has been making comments since this started essentially of the nature that he is making here so I would advise ignoring his predicts.
To give you an idea- this is the same Michael I believe who on Monday accused Nate of being a liar for using information that was provided by the Tribune. That information later turned out to be wrong, but there was no way to know it at the time of posting. Again, if this is the same fellow- he has an agenda, and it's not anlaysis.
I have a question: Is there a time limit on the lawsuit? Shouldn't Franken be seeking an expedited review. It seems they are dragging these thing out. Why not go straight to the MN S. Ct (or whatever it is called) right now. The ordinarily speed court processes would seem to be working against them.
Michael, if you think it's impossible for a final hand recount to change the outcome of an election, I would refer you to the results of the 2004 Washington State gubernatorial election. Much to the dismay of Republican Dino Rossi and his supporters, the decision went to Democrat Chris Gregoire despite the fact that the original returns and the first (machine) recount had Rossi winning.
So let the process play out, 'cuz ya never know, do ya?
So in Primer terms, is the Canvassing Board's decision that no Type 2 and Type 3 challenges (those that the election judges on recount deemed to be 'no' votes) will be reconsidered?
The Canvassing Board's decision has nothing to do with challenges. They will still rule on all challenges. This ruling was only about absentee ballots that have never been counted (and therefore can't be challenged in a recount) because they were rejected before being counted the first time. There are thousands of rejected absentee ballots around the state, and most of them were rejected for good reasons.
However, some of the rejected absentee ballots were rejected in error, and the Canvassing board says it's job isn't (and can't be) to investigate and rule on which rejected ballots should count. They don't have subpoena power, etc, to try to see ask people how and why they filled out which ballots, reject ballots, and see if those are valid reasons. They would have to either hope that everyone cooperates if they try to investigate them, or just guess. Instead the canvassing board's job is to recount the ballots that were accepted on election day, and that courts would have to deal with them.
Michael and jack-be-nimble are just trying to win one for "the team." I don't think the facts in this situation really matter that much to them (as evidenced by Michael's meaningless recriminations against Nate for not being able to see the future and jack-be-nimble's ludicrous ad hominems against a guy who may very well be the junior senator from Minnesota come January).
But, some people simply don't like civil discussion in which disagreements are resolved through appeals to factual evidence and logic, and would rather just throw insults around. Such is the state of things.
I look at the recount going on in MN and can't help but wonder how much better our lives would all be if Florida had been permitted to complete its recount back in 2000.
If this were to happen, Coleman would gain a lot of ground in the state's running tally -- but Franken, arguably, would re-gain the moral highground.
Moral highground, unfortunately, counts for nothing. If it counted for anything, we would have inaugurated President Gore eight years ago.
I have some analyis for all of you matheticians and statisticians.
As of right now... if you assumed that each challenged ballot turns out to be a vote for someone there would be 861 "new votes" that have been found. (This is done by simply adding up the challenges and subtracting the amounts each candidate has lost).
However, we know that among the "frivilous" challenges are some challenged being made for "no votes" where one candidate or the other believes a Senate no-vote should go for them because of who the person voted for at the top of the ticket. Those sorts of challenges are unlikely to add new votes to the count unless that candidate wins the challenge (which rarely happens).
We also know that the Franken camp is inherently claiming that they have made at "least" 70 or so more undervote (for Franken) challenges than undervote for Coleman challenges. This is how they account for the what the current recount numbers show vs what they show.
But assuming that at least 100 of these challenges exist (and will likely be denied) the real amount of new votes found so far is likely less than 760 (but we can use 760 as a base number). The number could very well be 200 or even 300 at this point. I would say 100 is the least case scenario.
Now... if you factor in that there was one variable (the St Louis county old scanning machines) where about 60 or more new votes were found with a net gain of 30 or so for Franken in only 18 precincts... that leaves about 700 "new" votes found in the first 82% or in the first 1.986 million votes counted (not inc the old optical scan precincts). Again this could actually be more like 600, but we stick with 700 for sake of argument.
That is one new vote found for every 2836 ballots -
Moving forward, that suggests that we can expect to see another 154 new votes in the last 18% (437,500) of the count if that math holds up.
Giving the Franken camp the benefit of the doubt, allowing that the 84 number was accurate, and giving them some more from yesterday just for good will (let's call it a 70 vote spread as of today).
That means that Franken would have to win 112 of the 154 new ballots found (73%) to come draw even.
What this means... is that Franken very well could "need" the rejected absentee ballots to be included for him to win the seat.
Unfortunately it will also mean that he will have lost the first count, lost the updated count after canvassing, lost the recount... and then sued in court. Won't be a pretty way to win if he does end up prevailing and he will not be a popular man in Minnesota.
Is there a time limit on the lawsuit? Shouldn't Franken be seeking an expedited review. It seems they are dragging these thing out. Why not go straight to the MN S. Ct (or whatever it is called) right now. The ordinarily speed court processes would seem to be working against them.
It seems Franken has a variety of options right now. It wasn't much of a surprise that the canvassing board determined it didn't have jurisdiction to do anything about the rejected absentee ballots, as they don't fall within its jurisdiction to conduct a recount.
One option is to persuade individual counties to include improperly rejected ballots in the count they certify to the canvassing board. Another is to seek to compel that action in court actions directed at county officials.
The most clear path to get those ballots counted under MN law is to file an election contest *after* the results are certified in Ramsey County District Court. That has the benefit of resolving the absentee ballot issue in one action uniforrmly for all MN counties. For obvious reasons, this is probably seen as politically undesirable, even though it is expressly provided for in MN law.
The most important thing that Franken needs to do is to select his litigation path carefully. I don't think an intemperate filing with the MN Supreme Court would get much besides a(nother) quick dismissal on jurisdictional grounds and some bad press.
To answer Steven S: no, this is a completely separate matter---the absentee ballots in question have never been tabulated in any form.
The operative issue on the non-judicial side, is whether individual counties MAY sort the rejected absentee ballots into "five piles": four where reasons for rejection according to 4 points of MN law were clearly given, and a "5th pile" of cases that may possibly be erroneous rejects. Also unclear is whether the state board MAY direct the counties to do so---if I read correctly, that is still on the table and will be considered next week, pending opinions on these matters by the Minnesota Atty. General office (not by courts).
To clarify what "livemild" said, the Minnesota Independent article ey linked does not say that Franken has initiated new legal action today---no sign of it at the Strib or TheUptake.org---rather it says he already had an action in Ramsey Co., and a voter had filed suit in Hennepin.
Meanwhile, two other things from TheUptake: A comment just now:
[Comment From JS]
Viktor: The 84 vote figure hasn't been concretely updated, but the campaign said they have continued to close the gap and remain confident (or something to that extent) that they will win the recount without the absentees being included."
Second. theUptake were barred by Franken's campaign from live-streaming yesterday's press conference (the Coleman campaign has dis-accredited them), and the reason that seems to be sticking is that Franken doesn't want Coleman's people to be able to react instantaneously. Even if that's not the real reason, the discussion surrounding it indicates that the "spin motive" Nate has been talking about really is a strong factor. You can see it play out also in comments on STrib stories, such as today's right now:
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It's certainly clarifying
"The hand recount of every ballot, occurring in offices across the state, has done little to clarify who the winner might be as it nears completion." Isn't this the point of the recount, to clarify it? And I think what it's clarifying is that Coleman STILL has more votes than Frankenfurter. Mr. Walsh, it's OK to say that."
posted by joeythelemur on Nov 26, 08 at 4:03 pm
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Challenges: Coleman 1,998 (about to crack 2K!), Franken 1,918. Coleman is also close to joining Franken under 1,209,XXX---call it the Great Minnesota De-count.
Unfortunately it will also mean that he will have lost the first count, lost the updated count after canvassing, lost the recount... and then sued in court. Won't be a pretty way to win if he does end up prevailing and he will not be a popular man in Minnesota.
But if it turns out that he has (let's say) 1000 absentee ballots in hand that were improperly rejected, he has both the legal and moral justification necessary to bring that case, and I don't think he'll be any more unpopular for bringing it than he would be otherwise.
The recount in Florida was likely to end on a bad note once the Gore Campaign asked that only certain counties do a hand count and the Bush Campaign didn't take the bait by asking that all counties do a hand count.
The Minnesota recount just makes the point (once again) that in really close elections there's no way of really knowing who was meant by the voters to get the most votes so it's always better to be preceived as being ahead and, even more importantly, to have the refs/umps on your side.
KWRegan: The jokers who comment on Strib articles will believe anything, as long as it is consistent with what they already believe. The place is infested with idiots. I've had a hard time resisting registering there just to populate the place with a few posts that aren't 100% bullshit, but ultimately, I don't want to get infected and it isn't my job to educate the internet.
But if it turns out that he has (let's say) 1000 absentee ballots in hand that were improperly rejected, he has both the legal and moral justification necessary to bring that case, and I don't think he'll be any more unpopular for bringing it than he would be otherwise.
Well... that's a big "if". We are talking about finding rejected ballots with absolutly "no explanation" for the rejection. Seems to me that you wouldn't find that many of those.
And let me go on record. If out of 107 counties we have 1000 mistakes made on absentee ballots, then we should simply take every member of every county canvassing board out behind the barn and shoot em. That sort of incompetence has no place in the election process.
But the reality is that the Franken campaign will attempt to get a portion of the 12,000 or so absentee ballots that were rejected.
My gut feeling on this... is that every major mistake made so far in this election process, from the messing up of the original reported results, to leaving ballot boxes in cars, losing ballots, finding ballots 3 week after the election... every major mistake has been made in Democratic precincts.
So the Franken campaign in some ways is relying on the incompetence (or whatever you want to call it) of Democratic election officials in Democratic precicts to find more "mistakes" than their Republican counterparts.
So "C" - to actually answer your question. I don't believe that if it boils down to adding ballots to the mix after the results are certified that people most people will see the justification of it.
Right, wrong, or indifferent they will see it as trying to go to court to steal one. It's a hard thing to be behind this long and not have people question it if you win after the fact. Look at what happened in Washington following the Governor's race in 2004. Nearly 80% of that state (nearly 100$ of Republicans and Independents) thought Rossi was the legitimate winner, and all Gregoire did was win a close recount (by 21 votes I believe). She didn't even go to court.
We are talking about finding rejected ballots with absolutly "no explanation" for the rejection.
No, we are talking about absentee ballots with no legitimate, legal reason for the rejection.
My gut feeling on this... is ... every major mistake has been made in Democratic precincts.
Well your gut feeling is full of shit, metaphorically as well as literally. The "original reported results" are unofficial for a reason: so that errors, which are expected, can be caught an d corrected. There were no ballot boxes in cars. Take all the shit out of your wild partisan bleating, and there's nothing left.
Every action taken on election night is taken under the eyes of multiple election judges in bipartisan teams. Mistakes get made by everyone. The post-election process is designed and intended to catch and correct them.
So believe what you want to believe about what people will believe when the inevitable election contest is filed. You already do about the conduct of the election so far, irrespective of reality.
Fact is, either one of these jokers got just 42% support in MN to start with. Franken already has people coming out of the woodwork, from both parties, saying their absentee ballot was improperly rejected. Having those votes counted is not stealing, but I'm sure the GOP will call it that anyway and try to stop it from happening.
Fortunately, in the end, the law will prevail. As much as one party seems to think the court of public opinion is the proper venue for a post-election contest, that ain't what the statute says.
What is the value of the moral highground here? I don't see how that plays in anybody's favor.
God, can this possibility get anymore complicated?
Sex and the City: Prop K
CH Truth: "Nearly 80% of that state (nearly 100$ of Republicans and Independents) thought Rossi was the legitimate winner" - uh, no. Speaking as a Washingtonian, about half the state, to be precise most of the Rossi voters, thought Rossi was the legitimate winner. Maybe it would be 80% by land-area :).
I'm perfectly bored with this Minnesota senate race. Finish, already.
"C" - with all due respect. You need to get a clue.
Here is an analyis on why Franken is picking up votes.
link
I really don't think the MN voters would see it as Franken stealing the election if he won because of court action.
The parallel is not DC but FL. What went wrong in FL is that all the votes weren't counted and the wrong man won. All Franken is trying to do is make sure all the legitimate votes are counted. If he has to go to court to achieve that, then he has to go to court.
IF (and it is still onl IF) Franken wins because of votes in previously disallowed absentee ballots, then if Coleman whinges, all Franken has to do is say that Coleman's only way of winning was to rig the count so that all the votes weren't counted.
My own fear is that the absentee ballots will be counted - and will increase Coleman's majority!
"I'm perfectly bored with this Minnesota senate race. Finish, already.
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OK, lets have them flip a coin or arm wrestle to end this because Rich is bored.
Democracy and the rule of law can go to hell when it stop being entertaining.
WV - pygurbig Got nothing
Great numbers just came in from red Sherburne county. Franken +7 with 30 fewer challenges than Coleman.
Nate,
Are you a stooge for Franken or what?
Despicable!
Mediapost... Sherburn appears to be a wash. Franken gains 6 votes and challenges 6 more ballots.
But here is a question? Why is it that a Republican county can count 36,000 votes while dealing with nearly 900 challenges... and have it all done and reported by 6:00.
But it has taken Minneapolis over five days now to count about 100,000 of their 180,000 ballots? At this pace they will be counting till X-mas.
Rats, Strib updated the numbers Here's what they had at 6:26:
Sherburne 100 100 22,453 -433 12,973 -426 7 452 422
Oh well, easy come, easy go. I have no answer for you on the other question, although Dakota and Anoka didn't exactly speed through their ballots.
As I posted before this IS Florida-2000 all over again -- in the songs that two parties are singing.
Dems: "Count all the votes. Not all votes have been counted."
Repubs: "We've counted and recounted, sometimes three times."
In the end in 2000, the GOP won on December 12th because it owned the SCOTUS, which stopped the recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court with its 4-3 Democratic majority.
Who knows what will happen this time. If it gets back to SCOTUS, well it's curtains for Franken.
Happy Thanksgiving:
StarTrib just called the race for Coleman.
@Jack-be-nimble: Neither you nor the StarTrib knows jack.
Juris: Jack's lying. Ignore him. (Notice that he didn't provide a link. That's because none exists.)
Meanwhile, Michael pretends that the Coleman challenges have nothing to do with his "lead". For those not following along, the challenges are all about addition-by-subtraction -- or rather, the appearance thereof, since the challenged ballots, as Coleman himself admitted a few days ago, will for the most part be allowed. But until they are, Coleman gets to pretend he's adding to a lead that may not even exist.
It is honorable to play clean politics with dirty trickster neocons, but the only thing that you do is lose dishonorably and call that sob opponent:
"Senator, congratulations on your re-selection>"
The Mn Canvassing Board is corrupt because of changing the rules in the middle of an election. You change them before the election so no candidate can use them for their advantage. Also it should be noted that machines are not bias, only people and the Canvassing board are.
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