This is part two of our periodic series ranking the 35 senate seats currently known to be contested in 2010 (a list that is likely to grow by at least one in the coming days if and when Hillary Clinton becomes Secretary of State).
Seats are ranked in order of their likelihood of changing parties; for more complete ground rules and a ranking of races #21-#35, please see the previous article in this series.
20. Connecticut (D-Dodd)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Chris Dodd (D)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
Quinnipiac 6/28 51 34 +17Chris Dodd's approval ratings aren't as strong as they once were as the result of the Countrywide mini-scandal and a relatively uninspired run for the Presidency. But which Republican in Connecticut is going to be in a position to take a shot at him? Popular Republican Governor Jodi Rell might have a chance, but is not thought likely to run, and Chris Shays' surprisingly large margin of defeat on Election Day gives you a sense for how non-Rell Republicans are likely to fare in Connecticut. There is also a chance that Dodd could retire, which would do the Republicans the favor of avoiding his formidable fundraising machine, but that doesn't solve the problem of their weak bench in this state.19. Louisiana (R-Vitter)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: David Vitter (R)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
SMOR 4/2 52 32 +20For whatever reason -- perhaps his decision to quickly beg the public's forgiveness -- the DC Madam scandal just never took all that much of a hit on Vitter's popularity at home in Louisiana. This is also one of those states that is trending away from the Democrats, with Barack Obama having lost badly on Election Day and Mary Landrieu having a somewhat closer call than the polling anticipated. Worth exploratory efforts on the part of the Democrats but unless they find a compelling candidate somewhere, unlikely to be a top-tier race.18. Alaska (R-Murkoski)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Lisa Murkowski (R)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
Hays Research 3/11 63 33 +30Mark Begich's closer-than-expected win on Election Day -- and Ethan Berkowitz' loss for Alaska's at-large House seat -- ought to give the Democrats a reality check about their ability to marshal public support in this state. With that said, the political climate in Alaska could change, particularly if oil prices remain relatively low -- eating into the state's revenue base -- or Murkowski has less success securing earmarks under a Democratic presidency. For Democrats to have a chance, they probably also need Sarah Palin's star to dim, as a popular Palin (who will be running for re-election in 2010) would have plenty of coattails for Murkowski.17. Iowa (R-Grassley)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Chuck Grassley (R)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
SurveyUSA 10/18 63 29 +34
Selzer 2/19 67 18 +49This race ranks where it does solely because Grassley will be 77 in 2010 and could retire, in which case the race probably leans Democrat. Absent a retirement, a kamikaze mission by someone like Tom Vilsack against the popular incumbent is unlikely to succeed.16. Delaware (D-Kaufman, but probably Open)
I didn't like how the Democrats handled the appointment of Joe Biden's replacement in this state, which went to little-known politico (and former Biden Chief of Staff) Ted Kaufman. But Kaufman almost certainly will not be the nominee, that honor instead most likely going to Beau Biden. The younger Biden is a capable politician on his own merits and will be difficult to defeat if he runs. Republican Mike Castle, Delaware's lone Represenative, could potentially make things interesting if he wants the seat, but it is not clear how likely that is, as he'll be 71 in 2010 and suffered two minor strokes during his 2006 campaign.
15. Illinois (D-??)
Although it's uncertain who Rod Blagojevich is going to pick to take Barack Obama's seat, that's not for lack of talent in the Democratic ranks, as prospective replacements like Jan Schakowsky or Alexi Giannoulis would likely prove fairly popular. Conversely, the Republicans have absolutely zero bench in Illinois, having failed to come closer than within 10 points of the unpopular Blagojevich in the gubernatorial race in 2006. This seat likely becomes significantly more vulnerable, however, if Jesse Jackson Jr. is the appointee, who could make the state a fundraising magnet for Republicans.
14. California (D-Boxer)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Barbara Boxer (D)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
SurveyUSA 10/18 49 42 +7
PPIC 9/13 44 39 +5
Field Poll 5/22 48 31 +17Boxer's approval ratings are not as strong as you might think, and Arnold Schwarzenneger -- who will be term-limited in 2010 -- is rumored to be interested in her seat. California has a quirky electoral history and the generic Democratic advantage at the top of the ticket has not always carried over to statewide races. Still, Boxer likely remains the favorite even if Arnie runs, and a heavier favorite if he doesn't, as most of the more talented Republicans are liable to focus on the Governor's race.13. Georgia (R-Isakson)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Johnny Isakson (R)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
PPP 11/24 30 25 +5
Strategic Vision 11/1 50 38 +12We'll know more about this seat once we learn the results of Georgia'a runoff, but Isakson is not particularly more popular than Saxby Chambliss, and could also be vulnerable. In addition, some Democratic intangibles will arguably be more favorable in 2010, as they'll have had a full cycle to target this seat, rather than nominating Jim Martin at the last minute and realizing -- perhaps too late -- how competitive they might be. They will also have had two more years of favorable demographic change in Georgia, which is gradually becoming more urban.12. Colorado (D-Salazar)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Ken Salazar (D)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
PPP 8/6 39 36 +3This seat excites a lot of Republicans as Salazar's approval ratings are tepid, but Colorado is very much moving in the wrong direction for them. Salazar starts off with a significant built-in advantage from Colorado's Hispanic community, and in addition, he'll get to benefit from the vastly superior voter lists that the Democrats built up in 2008. There is also the question of just who the Republicans might nominate to unseat him, as their candidates in the last few statewide races have been uninspired. Salazar has had an advantage over several plausible nominees in preliminary polling.11. Missouri (R-Bond)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Kit Bond (R)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
SurveyUSA 10/18 51 42 +9
PPP 8/20 44 43 +1Head-to-head polling has shown Bond in toss-up races against Dick Gephardt or either of a couple Carnahans, and there is also a chance that he could retire. However, although Claire McCaskill won Missouri in 2006, and Barack Obama came within several thousand votes of doing so on November 4, it has not been trending blue as fast as the rest of the country, and will most likely settle in as a Lean Republican state if and when the political climate becomes less favorable to the Democrats. In ranking these races, we are assuming that the Republicans will in fact have eroded the Democrats' generic ballot advantage some by 2010, as usually happens after the White House changes hands. If they have not, Missouri is probably a top-tier race.

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NO! I feel like Im going to have to puke if I have to think about another election.
Awesome, 2010, here I come.
Also, as a Californian, I highly doubt Boxer is really as vulnerable as you suggest.
Arnold isn't that popular anymore, and he would have issues contesting Boxer's seat.
Get Down!!!! I'm a cop you idiots!!!!! Get doooooooooowwwwwwwwwn!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boxer isn't going anywhere. CA is blue as the mighty pacific!
I do not agree with the comments about Jesse Jr. He is a rather popular democrat and Illinois and I believe most poeple knows he is Junior not Jesse Senior.
Nate,
what about the hot stove league?
Can you give a breakdown (return on investment index) on C.C., AJ, Lowe, Manny, Furcal, etc., etc.
It seems likely Murkowski will face a significant primary challenge, and maybe even a strong independent conservative candidate on the final ballot. I think that one has potential to be a lot more interesting than the others here.
So, has anyone worked out who the top 10 would be, according to Nate?
Martinez, Voinovich...? Who else?
To Charles:
It's got to be - not in a particular order - Voinovich, Martinez, Gregg, Burr, Reid, Specter, Bunning... and, uh, thre eothers. I can't think of anymore.
I'm convinced the Dems are going to take Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Kentucky, and, possibly but unlikely, Pennsylvania. I really don't think Isakson is that vulnerable, Nate. I think he's much more popular than Chambliss, and I really don't know anyone who would give Isakson a challenge.
Nate, are your senate rankings purely numbers based or is this your subjective ranking? If numbers based, can you share with us something about the formula?
Also, is there any site that compiles senate approval/disapproval ratings or did you just go to all the different pollsters sites to find them?
McCain?
Nate - In the 2006 2nd congressional district race in CT, Rob Simmons lost to Joe Courtney who's quite popular by a mere 83 votes. That said, given how unpopular Dodd is, if Simmons were to run for the senate in 2010, he could fare well against Dodd.
I'm a Californian too, and I'd say Boxer is in way better shape politically than Feinstein, who has been pissing off lots of folks around here with her votes on the Iraq war, FISA, Patriot Act, etc. Boxer has opposed all of those things, which makes her pretty popular with progressives and center-left moderates here. I don't think she'll have any trouble getting re-elected. Also, with DiFi probably running for the governor's seat in 2010, Arnie should just take over her seat in 2012.
Thanks Robby for the top tier list. Looks very good for the Dems. :)
I don't think the Dems will lose their whole edge until 2010 (indeed, they might quite possible expand their generic ballot edge).
So unless the Dems blow it in the next two years, they should get comfortably over 60. Agreed?
Feinstein is less vulnerable than Boxer. Yes, she has angered many progressives, but beyond us she is quite popular and a far less attractive target than Boxer. If she chooses to run for Governor in 2010 (a possibility), she'd be virtually unopposed in terms of real challengers. And Feinstein more recently gained major points for doing an anti-Prop 8 TV spot.
And yes, I have major issues with her. But realistically, Boxer is more vulnerable, although hardly a major target.
The top 10--AZ, AR, FL, KS, KY, NV, NH, NC, OH, and PA.
How I'd rate them:
10. Arkansas
9. Arizona
8. Nevada
7. Kansas
6. New Hampshire
5. Pennsylvania
4. Ohio
3. North Carolina
2. Kentucky
1. Florida
The rumors floating around Missouri is that the 2010 race will be Roy Blunt against Robin Carnahan. If that's the case, Missouri moves into the top 5 races nationally.
I too think Missouri should be much higher on this list.
Vitter is pretty entrenched down here. He knows who his audience is, too. You'll notice that he has an office in Metairie, an upper-class suburb, but no offices in NOLA itself, unlike the Governor, Landrieu, and Rep. Jefferson.
Pity the DC Madam killed herself. Her testimony could have brought Vitter down, but without her help, it'll be a tough fight to reignite the scandal that damaged his rep. Doesn't help that NOLA has lost a lot of her influence, with all the people that evacuated and never came back after the 2005 hurricanes hit.
Another problem is that Governor Jindall has achieved near-national celebrity status, and Losuianans like being in the national spotlight. An endorsement from the Gov is almost certain, and would carry a lot of weight in the very conservative Acadia and up around Shreveport. Louisianans are also pretty quick to forgive sex scandals in general- our most famous and revered politicians were all crazy in the sack, most notably Huey and Earl Long. We tend to prefer politicians with alot of character flaws, because it makes them more like the rest of us, and most folks think that makes them easier to relate to.
He's not impossible to beat. Unlike the Longs, he's pretty much been a do-nothing Senator that brings home the bacon reliably and that's about it. Mitch Landrieu could make a serious go at him and get alot of popular support. The Landrieus are like royalty in New Orleans, so people will at least listen to what he has to say. If Nagin makes a run for it, he probably won't carry much outside of Orleans Parish. Same thing for Morial.
Blunt is a complete ass, I will give money to any competitor to keep him out of the Senate.
That said, MO is dying and becoming more a part of the poor bitter south, instead of part of the midwest.
@another mike
between your plausible list and the comment about Blunt and Carnahan in Missouri, looks like a third straight year where the GOP is playing major defense. Depending what happens in Minn and Georgia this time around and assuming Obama doesn't crash and burn, we could be looking at 67 dem seats in the senate the day after the 2010 midterms...
Just to follow up, that would mean a switch of 22 seats from GOP to Dem over the course of 6 years - hey Karl Rove, can you say realignment?
Michael,
Well, before we get to that, we still have to see what happens in Minnesota and Georgia these next two weeks. 60 in the Senate means Obama can do a '100 Days' campaign and make fundamental changes in the way we do things and the GOP will have a reduced ability to stop him. They still can, since Lieberman's in the tank for the GOP and there's a bunch of Blue Dogs that will make it hard to push anything too sweeping through the Senate. Anyway, if he's successful in fixing the country, the Dems can say, "Look what we did!" in 2010, and catch alot of new seats in Congressional and Gubernatorial races, of which there are a shitload more than there were in 2008. If we don't get to 60, there's the very high likelihood that the GOP will stop as much of his new legislation efforts as they can, and score political points the way McConnell did during the SCHIP battle. That will hobble the Dems efforts in 2010, since Reid's whole argument for why they couldn't get us out of Iraq was because of GOP opposition in the Senate. This time, the American public will look at Reid and think, "well, we gave him a majority (being more than 50%). No more excuses" and not stick around long enough to hear the filibuster-proof majority argument.
Realignment in 2010 depends a lot on what happens in Minnesota and Georgia. If you really want it, then donate to Martin and Franken while you still can.
Really? John McCain in the top 10?
I mean, Napolitano could put up a tough challenge, but she'd have to give up a likely position in Obama's cabinet. Arlen Specter, assuming he runs and wins the primary, also seems reasonably safe.
Nevada is going to look incredibly good for Republicans, but I tend to agree that Mel Martinez' seat is the most vulnerable.
@sfergus483
For some reason I will never understand, California loves to elect Republican governors, and since DiFi is basically RepublicanLite, of course she is a heavy favorite for the governorship. Yes, she's always been a proponent of gay rights, but even Arnold has been (quietly) supportive of gay rights, notwithstanding his public opposition to gay marriage. And she's done a pretty good job of keeping opposition to her FISA/Iraq/Patriot Act votes under the public radar. Frankly, I think she was lucky not to face a real challenger to her seat in 2006 (hello, Mountjoy?). Of course, I can't think of a current strong challenger to Boxer either, so we may never know who would truly be more vulnerable.
Statler N Waldorf-
We tend to prefer politicians with alot of character flaws, because it makes them more like the rest of us
Oh, C'mon!!
I'm not a moralist, I don't care about pols catting around, but Vitter is a scatological masochist who dresses in a diaper and calls his dominatrix "mommy."
That's way beyond "character flaws" or even kinky.
And here I thought election fever was over. :-) Bring on 2010!
-- Cris
My site: Obama Wallpaper Archive
I tend to think that Voinovich's seat is probably the most likely pick-up for the Dems. I also think that Kentucky will also be a likely pick-up if Bunning runs for reelection. I think Martinez is also very, very vulnerable, but we do know that all three of the vulnerable Cuban congressmen in Florida also won their reelection this year. Might be tougher than Dems hope...
Here's my top 10:
10. Murkowski (AK - only if Dems put up a good candidate)
9. Specter (PA)
8. Open (KS - only if Sebelius runs)
7. Reid (NV)
6. Bond (MO)
5. Gregg (NH)
4. Burr (NC)
3. Martinez (FL)
2. Bunning (KY)
1. Voinovich (OH)
No way that Lincoln is endangered unless Huckabee runs. The GOP bench in Arkansas is utterly pathetic. I do think, however, that Alaska can be flipped if the Dems put up Berkowitz... assuming Palin doesn't primary Murkowski. Also, McCain will win his reelection no problem unless Giffords runs, which is doubtful in my humble opinion.
hill.tops
Listen, I didn't say it wasn't kinky. But this place was colonized by the French, not the English, so our roots aren't in a Victorian sexaphobic tradition, but rather the culture that is universally recognized as the horniest people on earth.
Now, I don't like Vitter personally. He's a screaming homophobe, a right-wing extremist, and like I said before, not very impressive as far as his lawmaking goes. But he does bring home the bacon, and he keeps Louisiana in the spotlight, which si something the locals here like. They think the rest of America would forget about us if it weren't for the scandals. After all, you kinda did when the levees broke.
Besides, look at the recent re-election of Rep. William Jefferson. He's politically the opposite of Vitter, but just as scandalous. They indicted him 2 years ago during his re-election campaign after the FBI found several million dollars in cash in a freezer at his house. Guess what? Not only did he beat his challengers in the primary and general election by wide margins in 2006, his trial is coming up in January, and hsi lead in the November runoff primary was immense. He's expected to destroy his opponent in the December general election, too.
I told you we like em quirky.
If you need to see a historical perspective to understand Louisiana a little better, go rent a DVD of the movie 'Blaze', which is based on the autobiography of former girlfriend of one of our most popular governors ever/prostitute/stripper Blaze Starr.
We're not puritans down here. That's a British colonial legacy, not a French one.
Statler N Waldorf-
you're ridiculous.
I don't care about golden showers, S/M, but infantilism, combined with incest play and poop play has no safe harbor.
It appears the next senate will not be filibuster proof. That said, I'd be more focused on achieving a filibuster proof senate then a 2/3 majority in 2010. Make no mistake - Democrats will gain new seats in 2010. However, incumbent Democratic Senators such as Lincoln, Reid, Salazar and as I already said, Dodd could loose their seats. And also, Obama might not be as popular as he is now in which the number of Republican Senators could increase. Even if Obama were popular, a 2/3 or even a filibuster proof senate would put to much power in the hands of one party.
I'm amazed you ranked the Salazar race so high as #12!
I don't particularly like Ken Salazar as he's much too moderate for me, (he's greta buddies with Joe Lieberman for instance) but that's hardly a handicap in Colorado where statewide races are ALWAYS decided by Independents.
Salazar may not be wildly popular but that's more because he hasn't inspired any real love among the Democratic base.
He's widely respected and has positioned himself firmly in the middle.
I can't conceive of any circumstances where he would be severely tested and it's hard to imagine him being defeated unless something strange happens in the next 2 years to make Democrats wildly unpopular here in the West.
Salazar will have more money and a better organization than anybody the Republicans can put against him. They are running short of candidates at this point.
There're no prominent Republicans to even TRY for Salazar's seat right now. They have only got 2 Congressmen out of 7 and one is Tom Coffman, who just got elected to Tom Tancredo's old seat. It would take him some time to become better known stateswide to have a chance at all.
Bill Ritter controls the governor's mansion and Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper will probably win the governor's job if he decides to run for it next, no matter who the Republicans decide to run.
Democrats even control both houses of the legislature so the bench for Republicans is just barren as hell. State representatives normally graduate first to run for Congress before tackling the Senate.
They tried running millionaire tycoons like Pete Coors in the past, but that has flopped miserably. They might try something like that again, since there's really no other remotely viable candidates among existing Republican politicians.
I think that this race ranks in the top 15 only shows how FEW competitive Senate races there really are in 2010!
Well, you know, 50 years ago a blowjob was considered to be scandalous. Now, it's considered standard issue.
My attitude toward sex is that two consenting adults should be allowed to do anything they want in the privacy of their own home. To quote Pierre Trudeau, former Prime Minister of Canada, "The government has no place in the bedrooms of this country".
Which is a sentiment repeated in Lawrence v. Texas and Griswold v. Connecticut.
Now, there is a large segment of this country that gets off on judging people for their sexuality. Bill Clinton's career was damaged because Newt Gingrich thought his using a cigar to probe Monica Lewinsky's vagina was more important than his ability to lead the country. maybe you agree with him. I don't.
If you want to judge Vitter, judge him for his performance as a politician, and the hypocrisy of taking homophobic positions on issues such as Equal Marriage while himself being a person whose sexual needs are not the same as what's considered acceptable by alot of people in this country.
Last quote, "
There ain't nothing I ever do
Or nothing I ever say
That folks don't criticize me
But I'm going to do
Just as I want to anyway
And don't care just what people say
"
Billie Holiday
"Ain't Nobody's Business If i Do"
It appears that Blanche Lincoln is in your top 10 races, which I really find doubtful. Democrats completely dominate at the state level in Arkansas, and Lincoln is reasonably popular. If Republicans can't even muster a candidate against Mark Pryor, then they're even less likely to take Lincoln's seat. Sure, Mike Huckabee might run, but Lincoln still seems likely to hold on. Besides, I can't imagine Arkansas Senate being more competitive than Missouri or Colorado.
@cugel
Ken Salazar is 60/40 unless he gets caught with a little boy/girl.
You are correct that the Repub bench is pathetic.
,dave
living in Denver
WV= nessi, a Scottish lake creature
Absent any retirements, I highly doubt any of these races will be all that competitive. The one exception may be Missouri, but Kit Bond always seems to hang on. I am very interested in Deleware and Illinois. The primaries could be the real battles here, and party determine if these races are at all competitive.
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It looks like we're looking at a filibuster-proof majority in 2010 (if we don't get it now), though we'll probably lose seats in 2012 (we have tons of incumbents, and there are virtually no weak repubs besides Lieberman if he counts).
60 senators is not needed for a "filibuster-proof" Senate since on various issues several of the moderate Republicans will come over.
As for the comment made by the same poster that Joe Lieberman is now in the tank for the Rerpublicans, that's not correct, either. Except on the Iraq War he votes reliably with the liberal bloc.
And, the comment made that Schwarzenegger is quietly in favor of gay rights should not go unchallenged. He was vocal in his opposition to Prop. 8.
It's interesting to see the new posters here, who seem to have come on board, and become very "vocal," apparently as a result of the Minnesota recount.
The GOP tends to vote as a bloc on alot of issues. Also, alot of Blue Dog Dems will cross party lines to allow filibusters and to vote against socially progressive issues.
Joe's madly in love with the GOP. I'm surprised they're not fucking.
He did oppose prop 8 vocally, but he also shot down every attempt the California legislature made to enact Equal Marriage by vetoing each of the bills they sent him that would have legalized it that way. Why he changed his mind, I don't know. Maybe it's because he's not up for re-election next term, so he can speak his mind on a lot of issues the GOP would have gone berserk on him for in the past. Still doesn't repair the damage his veto pen caused to GLBT rights.
Frankly, I was leery about posting at all to begin with, because I misunderstood the way it worked. I just didn't want to have to register for yet another internet account with yet another password to memorize and yet more of my personal info being logged in someplace. Up until I figured out how to get around that, I just sent emails directly to Nate.
Now I get to harass you too, ST. Aren't you glad :)
Early opinions here about Burr of NC are pie-in-the-sky dreams of Dems outside the state. Liddy Dole lost here this year because she was lazy; Burr is not. Although I would not & will not vote for him, I grudgingly recognize that he's represented well those who voted for him in 2004. He's articulate, and he's present in the state a lot.
And it's still hard to find a NC Dem to run for the Senate (though Hagan has demonstrated that it's not impossible).
I think Burr will hold on to this one for the Repubs in 2010.
To the old perfesser:
I actually think Burr is quite vulnerable. History tells us that incumbents have a hard time being entrenched in North Carolina. I know that might just be trivial history, but it doesn't look like Burr is overwhelmingly popular. North Carolina also seems like it's becoming increasingly urban; with more urban development, conventional wisdom says the state will vote more Democratic. I have a feeling that Heath Shuler can give Burr a real run for his money; Shuler represents a conservative and rural district and will appeal to Republican voters as well.
Quick note about Arkansas: no way will Lincoln lose her seat. Besides Huckabee, who I think will pass on the race, no one can even come close. Let's not forget that Arkansas always votes Democratic for the Senate. I think Louisiana offers a good example as well. The GOP put up a relatively famous candidate, but yet a moderate woman Senator from a blood-red state won.
Burr isn't really liked or disliked here. I think he's to be considered the favorite against any challenger, but a few could really push him. I doubt Shuler will run with only 4 years of political experience, but I'd love to see it. Past that, Easley, Miller, and Cooper are possibilities, but none would be a favorite, imo.
When it comes down to it, Burr IS interested in getting out and meeting with the voters and, most importantly, isn't going to make the mistakes Dole's campaign did.
Crap; I have a doppelganger.
Oh well. At least "other Robby" is making cogent points (hell, I should've probably just kept my mouth shut and taken credit for his insight).
Boxer will be 70 in 2010 and at lest briefly considered retiring rather than running in 2004. 70 is young in the Senate, but her running in 2010 is not guaranteed.
"It seems likely Murkowski will face a significant primary challenge, and maybe even a strong independent conservative candidate on the final ballot. I think that one has potential to be a lot more interesting than the others here."
I think Palin could be the primary opponent you speak of. She needs more national exposure if she is to run for President in 2012.
I guess Lincoln is in the top ten because Arkansas has just turned into a generic southern Republican state, losing all the presidential democratic tilt that Bill Clinton established. But as Maine shows, these anachronistic structures (2 republican senators in a safe blue state) can survive. The only possible opponenet would be Huckabee I guess... or do you think the generic republican advantage is now so big that the candidate doesn't matter?
It appears to be very hard to rank the races right now, because so much depends on the decisions of single persons (Is Sebelius going to run? Will Grassley retire? etc...). We'll probably know a LOT more in just a few weeks, certainly once the Obama transition is over. And politicians start to focus on their future again.
Yeah, a lot of the races depend on the candidates or retirements, so it's hard to rank now.
"It looks like we're looking at a filibuster-proof majority in 2010 (if we don't get it now), though we'll probably lose seats in 2012 (we have tons of incumbents, and there are virtually no weak repubs besides Lieberman if he counts)."
That depends on how well Obama does. If he is popular, it will be hard for the Republicans to run against him. None of the 'scary last name' attacks will work. And unless they've learned their lesson from 2006 and 2008 (and 2010) they could implode in 2012.
Even if Obama isn't popular, I'm pretty sure we'd still pick up a couple seats. The only thing to fear would be if he is unpopular.
If he's popular, the GOP is doomed.
Can anybody Answer? what Square Mileage (footage?/acreage?/furlong?/codswallop?) (why must you Americans persist with 17th century measures? => will Obama lead you to the bright metric future, here's hoping :) ) of US soil did Obama win vs McCrabby? From the Map + Alaska looks like McCrabby romped it Home, Surely that at least must warm the Heart of despondent Republicans :\
Lincoln is vulnerable. (I've lived in Arkansas for eight years.) There will be a swing back to Republicans nationally, just because that's what happens when one party controls everything in the absence of a real or perceived crisis like the GWOT. Being female is a natural disadvantage in the South. And Obama will pursue social and environmental issues that will produce a backlash here; industry will say Arkansas needs a Republican to defend its jobs. We'll be West Virginia II. I disagree on some of these others, particularly Georgia; Isakson is very conservative but was very popular as Fulton County Commission chairman before he took Newt's seat. The Republicans, frankly, need more Conservatives with a Smile, not these screaming haters.
ghdodger, you made a point I was going to make - once one party is firmly in control, there is a reaction and the pendulum starts swinging the other way again. How far will depend on how well Obama does. But even if he does spectacularly well, there may still be a reaction against one party having too much control, which could make it harder for Dems to take seats in 2010. Of course, that could be counterbalanced by a bad campaign from the GOP if they don't learn anything from 2008. My hope also is that Palin will go through a hotly contested primary. That should kill her presidential hopes once and for all.
Nate,
Interested in rankings, huh? How about developing your own college football computer ranking poll? You clearly know your statistics and your polling (great job this election season by the way.) Why not give us political AND football junkies another reason to visit the site during the off-season... the election off-season that is. I would be very likely to trust any kind of computer/stat model that you develop based on your previous work. I also hear you're a big baseball fan, too. Does that translate to football? If so, what do yo think???
I think the dems already are pretty much filibuster proof. Snow and Collins from Maine won`t vote against Obama very often and every republican up for election in 2010 does`t want to look obstructionist.
Also assuming Coleman keeps his seat he will be voting with the democrats the majority of the time since he is a political whore who votes with who`s popular at the time plus hardcore republicans lose in MN.
Sixty is just a mythical number, if the dems can keep their conservatives in line, they can get most of their agenda passed.
Why is it that no republican senators jump over to our side when they're in the extreme minority, but every time the Republicans have a tiny majority, 5 Democrats seem ready to adopt that R and jump on board?
...I hate Democrats. >_>
Jack,
technically, we use both systems but, outside of professional fields, the average person continues to fall back on imperial measurements.
I am not sure of the exact proportion of area McCain won but Republicans tend to do well in areas where the deer population exceeds the human population.
60' a pretty important number, but what is even more important is the number of progressive Democrats vs the number of Blue Dogs.
For alot of folks in the US, the right-wing extremists represent a real threat. GLBT folks see the Republicans and the Blue Dogs as being very interested in rendering them as second0class citizens at best, and scapegoats at the worst. Alot of women (Palin exluded) see the right-wing as a group that's more interested in restricting their right to choose rather than fixing the economy or creating jobs. Blue Dogs and the GOP have made Unions a target too, as well as Hispanics. Tancredo's entire platform was an attack on Hispanics, and talk radio doesn't even try to conceal it's racism anymore. The urban poor see the GOP and the Blue Dogs as uncaring, particularly African-American women from working-class backgrounds. It doesn't help that there's maybe ten black people in the entire GOP, and they're all Huxtables. There's a very large and growing anti-war movement in this country (MoveOn's power is pretty incredible right now), and they're not interested in the conservative "Stay in and fight till we're all dead" philosophy concerning Iraq.
So, it's not really just about stopping the GOP it's also about those Blue Dogs. Each of the groups I just mentioned above will benefit from a more progressive agenda in the next legislative session. There are enough liberals in the House to make it a reality, but there has to be a strong progressive base in the Senate to close the deal.
Lastly, the final tqo contests are more than just reaching for 60. They're about unseating two of the most extreme Republicans in Congress. Chambliss and Coleman are rabid homophobes, war hawks, anti-woman activists, and more than happy to screw the working-class and the unions. They represent the least attractive qualities of the right, in that both men are focused on social/personal issues like Terry Schiavo, but have little to say on economics, jobs, or the war other than 'stay the course' as we sink into a quagmire on all three counts. For America to move forward, we need to jettison some dead weight. And Chambliss and Coleman are a lodestone around our necks.
Even if Dodd does retire, his seat won't go Republican. The strongest CT Republican, Gov. Jodi Rell, has already said she'll run for another term. Chris Shays would be the strongest candidate, but he'd still be a long shot.
Salazar is safe. The strongest Republican I can think of, ex-gov. Bill Owens, passed on the 2004 & 2008 open seats. He would have been a shoo-in in 2004 & a heavy favorite in 2008, so it's hard to believe he'd wait to challenge an incumbent. Were he to run, he'd be a real threat-he's only behind 44-41 in polling-but Salazar wouldn't be dead.
I predict that NY Gov. David Paterson will replace Hillary with NY state AG & former HUD secretary Andrew Cuomo, if nothing else then to keep Cuomo from challenging him in the 2010 gubernatorial primary.
Beau Biden will win his father's seat. Period.
Boxer's numbers are decidedly mediocre, but they're still much better than Arnie's. She's safe.
Matt - If Chris Shays were to run for the Senate, he'd win. One has to remember how popular new Democratic faces like Himes are and how unpopular corrupt insiders like Dodd are. However, Shays said he would not run for the Senate in 2010. I still think Rob Simmons has a shot at beating Dodd if he were to run.
Republicans will almost certainly be playing a lot of defense in 2010. But I suspect they will do better defending their turf then in 08.
I think the best republican challenger to Salazar would be John Elway, who would be the immediate favorite in my eyes. But there is a weak republican bench in Colorado.
In CT, Dodd is becoming more and more separated from the electorate here. No one in the Congressional delegation has the name awareness or guts to challenge, though. Only way he loses his seat is if Countrywide really explodes in his face along with his ties to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lobbyists.
Local media here hardly covers any of this. Shays could run against him as a reformer, but he would have to run a negative campaign, which he refused to do against Jim Himes and it cost him his seat. In that situation, he had to run against a guy without a record. That won't be the problem with Dodd. His run for President was not popular here and voters are getting a little tired of his bluster.
Rell won her first elected term because she was popular, even though Mayor DeStefano ran a thoughtful campaign and beat her in the debate. If AG Blumenthal runs against her, she might opt for the Senate race, though not sure how much DC appeals to her. In a Rell-Dodd race, Dodd could be up against it.
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Arnold is not going to run. HIS approval ratings are hovering around 40% as the state goes nearly bankrupt. Plus, he cannot win a Republican primary, and there's already an announced wingnut candidate, state legislator Chuck DeVore, who is something of a folk hero among CA GOP circles. The California Republican Party is EXTREMELY far right and they consider Arnold an apostate. The moment DeVore announced this seat became safe. Arnold's only shot would be to run as an indie, and I don't think there would be enough votes out there for him in that case.
I'd sure like to know who you think are the "more talented Republicans" who'll be distracted from taking on Boxer by the Governor's race. California Republicans are a pathetic lot -- not quite equalled by a soporific Democratic cast of characters. Gerrymandering has been dreadful for this state. None of these pols have had to run a contested race in so long that they are mostly sclerotic.
As much as I’d love to see the Democrats keep picking up seats in the Senate, very rarely does the president’s party make gains in the mid-term elections. Republicans won two senate seats in 2002, probably as a result of 9/11 and Bush’s unrealistically high approval ratings and in 1998 the senate stayed the same but historically the president’s party loses in mid-terms. Then again, looking down the list, it seems the Republican held seats are the most vulnerable. But then again that is looking at it here a few weeks after a sweeping Democratic election in 2008. By 2010, those very seats may be the least vulnerable and some Democrats who thought they had safe seats could be fighting some serious battles. Obama is going to have to do some very remarkable things and there will have to be a complete economic turn-around before we can start talking about Democrats picking up six or so seats again for a third straight election. Democrats should be thankful that we have (at least, with MN and GA still TBD) an eight seat cushion if there happens to be another Republican Revolution in 2010. Hopefully there won’t be, but it is certainly nice to have that eight seat advantage in the Senate and (as it currently stands) 81 seat advantage in the House. If we can keep Arnie, Palin and Blunt out of the Senate, with or without a net change in numbers, that is a nice victory in itself.
Well, 2010 is a long way away, folks. We've seen candidates like Ted Stevens go from uneatable to close call to ex-politician in a matter of weeks this cycle. Hillary started out as inevitable and wound up as Secretary of State, and Giuliani went from credible threat to incredible buffoon in weeks. It's a little early to start placing your bets.
I know alot of you Republicans feel embarrassed by the hemorrhaging Senate and House seats. But the reason why you crashed and bled wasn't because of some natural phenomenon built into the cycle. It's because you fucked up and mixed religion with politics, drifted away from the traditionally Republican concerns of keeping Wall Street humming along nicely and reducing government largesse into social issues that are not the government's concern and should be left to the individual. Frankly, this is Terry Schiavo's ghost coming back to bite you in the ass. Had you been less obsessed with gay people and abortion and been a little more focused on rpeventing a Wall Street meltdown, McCain would have won just as surely George Bush I beat Dukakis.
So stop syaing, "Oh, well, 2010, you know... it's inevitable that we'll pick up more seats", because if you stick with the same losing strategy, you'll lose then too.
Let's be honest. Barry Goldwater, Richard Nixon, and Ronald Reagan would be horrified if they saw what you've done to your party. Eisenhower would be screaming at you about the military industrial complex that you not only let run amok, you got so close to it you're practically fucking. And foreign entanglements? Ho, don't get me started on what your forebears would have thought of that. Iraq should be a four letter word to you by now.
So go ahead, stay with this weird religious cult you've turned the GOP into, with it's platitudes and rants about the impending apocalypse in Iraq, with it's condemnations of abortion and gays and atheists and Muslims, go ahead with your domestic spying and your mandatory school prayer. Keep listening to Pat Buchanan, because if you do, we'll kick your asses in 2010 even harder than we did in 2008, because you've got alot more governorships and Senate seats coming up for re-election this time, and a whole lot more to lose.
Statler N Waldorf said "...We've seen candidates like Ted Stevens go from uneatable"
He's still a little hard to digest.
Two things, I wouldn't say that in CT-04, that Shays 3,545 vote loss was surprisingly large (approx. 1%). Given that Obama-Biden Carried the 4th by over 55,000 votes, I was surprised by the closeness of the Himes-D victory. Although I'm not in CT, I can see Shays-R considering a run so he can pair up with his buddy Joe L. otherwise Rell-R could take a shot at Dodd.
As far as my Homestate goes, my take is that Arnie is not the least bit popular and would lose to Boxer. The State Gop is in its usual warring mess with the rightwing fighting the more moderate factions, and there is nothing on the horizon,as I see it, for anything but divisive primaries from the Senate through the Statewide Races for the Gop.
What we don't need is another divisive Democratic Primary for Governor. The Dems need to take backthe Statehouse and only a divisive Primary could de-rail that opportunity.
Boxer-D is safe,imo.
My Bad, I see that the CT SoS reports Himes WFP line separately and not running a grand total so add 8,693 votes to the Himes Margin.
Still not so large a margin given the Landslide that occurred above this race.
Bob X, are you suggesting that Unca Ted is a little hard to swallow?
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The Republicans didn't loose because of religion. They didn't maintain their value - less spending when they supported Bush's unjustifiable bailouts, the endless Iraq War and in general failed to stand up against Bush's massive spending. As a result, they suffered the consequences on election night.
I think they did. America is a very religious country, to be sure. But we are also intensely individualistic. If you could find any one thing we agree upon, no matter what the party we subscribe to, religion we follow (or don't), language we speak, or values we hold, it's this: We hate being told what to do, especially by government.
As such, the mixture of religion and politics itself is the powderkeg I refer to, not religion alone. The Ten Commandments do not carry the force of law. Until you mix it with politics. While many Americans feel personal revulsion at the idea of somebody cursing at their parents, only the extremist crazies would want you to get arrested for that.
But the GOP tried to codify Christianity into law. The irony is that they didn't practice it themselves. They stole (Ted Stevens, Jack Abranoff) they lied (Bush and the WMD), they killed (4,000 dead GIs in Iraq), they promoted greed (What to do about 9/11? Shop!) the coveted (Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, Larry Craig), they hated their neighbor instead of loving him (Lee Atwater, Karl Rove), they promoted fear and intolerance, suspicion and wrath (the whole response to 9/11, the USA PATRIOT Act, the warrantless wiretap)... this si a very strange brand of Christianity to be sure! One I bargain Jesus himself would scarcely recognize. So much for judge not lest ye be judged... these fuckers judged anyone and everyone! And themselves, as holier than thou at every turn.
Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's means just that. There's not a lot of nuance, it means keep religion and politics separate. And if this really were a Christian nation, we wouldn't try to make it a theocracy. we certainly wouldn't call it pro-life if it were pro-death penalty and pro-war, which are both very anti-life. We wouldn't engage in attacks against GLBT people or deny them the right to marry, since many christian churches DO in fact endorse Equal Marriage, and the government of a christian nation would not try to shackle those churches to the narrow interpretation of just one sect.
When you mix religion and politics, you do not get a christian nation. You get something very un-christian. You don't get a Republic of Love, you get a Monarchy of Hate. Now, King George Bush II has just been deposed, because the American people do not want to be ruled absolutely by a religious whack-job whose inane platitudes have led us into quagmire after quagmire. If God is so quick to punish non-christians, ask yourself why it's only Red States that get hit with hurricanes. Why are the fires burning in states like California with Republican governors? Where was your God to save Galveston from Gustav? Was he on vacation that day?
Americans may indeed be religious, but we're not stupid. And we'll fall for a snake-oil selling wanna be potentate for only so long. Take your false-prophets and your false profits and go stuff them up the whole in your hearts.
I forsee this election being one in which the Dems make fairly significant gains in the senate (considering the general strength and low number of dem incumbents,as well as the general weakness and high number of GOP incumbents), yet the house is really what is up for grabs. The house will be more of a referendum on Obama then anything else. Furthermore, if the democratic trend continues in state legislatures in the 2010 elections, the 2012 elections will show massive house gains through redistrictings. All the dems need to do is not screw up as badly as the republicans did with bush, which should be fairly easy to do.
Well R, you're actually correct in one sense. It would be pretty easy for us to screw this up if we're not careful.
Throughout this electoral cycle, Obama and most of the Democratic leadership has urged supporters and volunteers not to get too cocky. There has always been that element of "this is just too important to fuck up", and because we held that attitude, we're now one runoff and one recount away from a sixty seat majority in the Senate. Which is why it may be too soon for celebrations, even if we do win the magic 60. Cautious mindfulness has been very good to us. I recommend that we remain cautiously mindful throughout the next 8 years.
I intend to keep a sharp eye on the GOP, watching it the same way I would any poisonous snake. They're down, but not out, and still very capable of ruining our day.
In Georgia, Johnny Isakson's record is more or less similar to those of Saxby Chambliss, but he is more favorably viewed by voters because he did not run a negative campaign in 2004. In all honesty, Isakson didn't have to: his opponent, Denise Majette, a one-term African-American congresswoman who was the primary benificiary of a concerted effort by Republicans in the 2002 primary to cross party lines and vote for whomever's name was listed below the intolerable Cynthia McKinney's on the ballot, possessing no discernable record or campaign budget, was thoroughly unelectable. Hell, even I voted for Isakson in that election, and it remains the only time I have voluntarily voted for a Republican.
While it's possible that Georgians may sour on Isakson if he has to stoop to Saxby-esque campaign tactics against a more credible Democratic challenger in 2010, I don't think that he is in worse shape than 22 other Senate seats. The primary reason is because 2010 is a statewide election year in Georgia, and current Republican governor Sonny Perdue is term-limited. There's a political rivalry in the state capitol between lieutenant governor Casey Cagle and House speaker Glenn Richardson, both Republicans, which means that neither is particularly popular. These two also happen to be the top GOP contenders to succeed Perdue in the governor's mansion, and a primary battle between the two is bound to get ugly. Georgia Democrats are therefore going to be more focused on the races for governor and lieutenant governor, and their strongest statewide candidates are going to be aimed at those two offices, meaning that Isakson's Senate seat will most likely be of secondary importance.
The possible game-changer in the Senate race would be if Isakson goes back on his previous statements and runs for governor himself, which he may be persuaded into doing if the GOP can't get behind Cagle, Richardson, or some other Republican state official between now and the 2010 primary. If that happens, Democrats have an opening. The logical replacement for Isakson on the Senate ballot would be congressman Tom Price, who inherited Isakson's House seat in 2004. However, while Price's district in the north Atlanta suburbs (North Fulton-East Cobb-Cherokee) is safely Republican so long as he is the incumbent, the changing demographics of the area could prove it to be at risk if a strong Democratic candidate emerges in an open race; therefore, the GOP may ask to stay put. The same can be said the Republican congressmen in the two districts neighboring Price's, John Linder and Phil Gingrey. As a result, a Senate race not including Isakson would likely be between two lesser state officials or members of the Geordia General Assembly, which would essentially make the race one of who can secure more fundraising from their party's senatorial campaign committee. So far, though, it appears unlikely that Isakson would run for governor, so it is a moot point for now.
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