11.09.2008

2010 Senate Rankings, Part I: Races #21-#35

At least 35 seats will be contested for the United States Senate in November, 2010, including 34 seats whose six-year terms are set to expire and one special election in Delaware (although Barack Obama's seat in Illinois will also require a replacement, it was set to expire in 2010 anyway). These include a number of tremendously interesting races, with many incumbents vulnerable to retirement or unusually strong challengers, and it is not inconceivable that as many as 15 or 20 races may wind up being seriously contested.

My feeling is that it is never too early to begin looking at these races. For one thing, I want to make it clear that FiveThirtyEight will be a presence on the political scene for a long time to come. For another, the competitive nature of some of these races may begin having implications almost immediately. For instance, if Arlen Specter believes he is vulnerable to being unseated in Pennsylvania, he may be more likely to side with the Obama administration on something like a cloture vote. Conversely, if Byron Dorgan thinks he is at risk in North Dakota, he might be more inclined to buck the new president. There are also a number of cases -- such as Washington on the Republican side or Oklahoma for the Democrats -- where if the opposition is thinking about mounting a serious challenge, it had better get started building infrastructure right away.

The races are ranked from 1 to 35 in order of their likelihood of changing hands to the opposition party. In some cases, this is a difficult calculation to handle because of uncertainty about whom the candidates might be. For instance, if Chuck Grassley decideds to run for re-election in Iowa, he is almost certainly safe, but if he retires, the seat probably leans Democrat. We have tried to reconcile these contengencies the best we can.

Where an incumbent is running, we have listed his approval, favorability or job performance ratings as compiled from recent surveys. Keep in mind that job approval scores vary heavily from survey to survey depending on question wording and are at best a rough guide to a congressman's standing.

Today, we will cover races #21 through 35.

35. Idaho (R-Crapo)

Approval/Favorability Ratings: Mike Crapo (R)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
SurveyUSA 7/2007 61 26 +35
Idaho may be turning blue very, very slowly, and perhaps Walt Minnick can make a credible run at Jim Risch's newly-minted seat in 2014. But with Democrats just having lost an open-seat race by 24 points, they're not yet in any sort of position to take a run at a popular incumbent.

34. Alabama (R-Shelby)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Richard Shelby (R)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
SurveyUSA 10/18 61 32 +29
There's an outside chance that the well-liked Shelby could retire, but Alabama is one of those places where the Solid South is waning faster than the New South is waxing, and I just can't imagine the sort of Democrat who would be capable of winning a senate seat right now.

33. Utah (R-Bennett)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Bob Bennett (R)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
Dan Jones 1/2007 67 18 +49
The Democrats might have just a glimmer of hope in the form of Jim Matheson, the Democrat who represents Utah's 2nd Congressional District, who could theoretically make a run at things were Bennett, who will be 77 in 2010, to retire. But there's no indication that Bennett will do so, nor that Matheson would be ready to risk his House seat, and even then a generic Republican like Lieutenant Governor Gary Herbert would probably beat him.

32. Oregon (D-Wyden)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Ron Wyden (D)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
SurveyUSA 10/18 54 34 +20
Wyden is a popular and effective senator, and Oregon, after some flirtation with battleground state status, now appears to be back firmly in the blue camp. The GOP has better places to invest resources.

31. Indiana (D-Bayh)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Evan Bayh (D)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
SurveyUSA 2/4 58 32 +26
The Bayh brand name is probably untouchable, and having a Democrat in this seat no longer seems like such an outlier now that Barack Obama carried Indiana on Election Day. Republican hopefuls will probably wait until Richard Lugar's possible retirement in 2012.

30. Vermont (D-Leahy)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Pat Leahy (R)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
Research 2000 10/2007 67 29 +38
Some Republicans think that Governor Jim Douglas, who was just re-elected to his fourth two-year term, could be viable if Leahy were to retire, but Leahy probably has at least one more term left, and even then Peter Welch or perhaps Howard Dean would be formidable opponents.

29. New York (D-Schumer)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Chuck Schumer (D)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
Marist 10/22 55 33 +22
SurveyUSA 10/18 60 31 +29
Quinnipiac 8/2 61 23 +38
It's possible that this race could attract Rudy Giuliani or George Pataki, but they'd likely be running a fool's errand against Schumer, who is quite popular in his home state and could raise virtually unlimited amounts of money. More likely, the Republicans will want to concentrate their resources on the governor's race.

28. Maryland (D-Mikulski)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Barbara Mikulski (D)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
SurveyUSA 11/2006 57 35 +22
Were Mikulski to retire, the Republicans could think about running Michael Steele or Bob Ehrlich, but with both having lost statewide races in 2006 against fairly marginal Democrats, that probably gives you an indication of how such a challenge would resolve itself.

27. South Dakota (R-Thune)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: John Thune (R)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
Mason-Dixon 10/14 64 34 +30
There's no reason to think that Thune should be vulnerable in the first place, and were something unexpected to happen -- like Tom Daschle deciding he wanted a re-match -- the Republicans would throw tons of money at the race to protect one of the few rising stars in their party. The other long-shot scenario is that Thune decides he wants to run for governor to gain some executive experience prior to a prospective White House run in 2012 or 2016, in which case Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin might try her luck.

26. North Dakota (D-Dorgan)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Byron Dorgan (D)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
SurveyUSA 11/2006 75 21 +54
Theoretically, a red-state seat like this is always vulnerable given the right Republican challenger, but Dorgan is very popular and is the sort of incumbent who President Obama will be trying to make look good. Governor John Hoeven may eventually be a problem for Democrats once he picks his year to run for the Senate, but he resisted such overtures in 2006 and may wait until the Republican brand is in better shape.

25. Washington (D-Murray)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Patty Murray (D)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
Strategic Vision 11/1 55 37 +18
SurveyUSA 10/18 55 35 +20
Murray's approval ratings are good but not great; she might be vulnerable against the perfect opponent running a pitch-perfect campaign. But there's no particular indication about whom that opponent might be. WA-5's Cathy McMorris Rodgers may eventually be an interesting candidate, but probably needs more seasoning.

24. Hawaii (D-Inouye)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Daniel Inouye (D)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
SurveyUSA 11/2006 68 26 +42
Inoyue is the more popular of Hawaii's two very popular Democratic senators, but he'll also be 86 years old in 2010. If he's unable or unwilling to run, governor Linda Lingle might have a chance at the seat. Barack Obama, however, could probably go a long way toward quashing her hopes if forced to rally for a Democrat like Mazie Hirono in his home state.

23. South Carolina (R-DeMint)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Jim DeMint (R)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
SurveyUSA 2/19 49 37 +12
DeMint is not terrifically popular and may be too conservative even by South Carolina standards. But as evidenced by their inability to nominate a credible opponent against Lindsay Graham, Democrats have real recruitment problems in this state.

22. Wisconsin (D-Feingold)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Russ Feingold (D)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
Strategic Vision 11/1 57 33 +24
SurveyUSA 10/18 53 43 +10
WisPolitics.com 6/9 59 29 +30
Feingold is the sort of liberal icon whom the Republicans are always going to want to target; the problem is that he's become something of a Wisconsin icon too. If Tommy Thompson runs and there is some perception that the Obama government has overreached, he could be vulnerable; otherwise, probably not.

21. Oklahoma (R-Coburn)
Approval/Favorability Ratings: Tom Coburn (R)
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Net
Sooner Poll 7/21 59 24 +35
The survey you see above was a Republican-affiliated poll that probably exaggerates Coburn's favorability ratings, but this remains a tough state for Democrats. Democratic governor Brad Henry, however, will be term-limited in 2010 and could decide to run for the seat. Howard Dean should be looking for a commitment from Henry sooner rather than later, because while this one is winnable if Henry is the candidate, it will require some real tender loving care.

145 comments

Kid G said...

Niiiiceee!!! Let the games of the 2010 olympiad begin!

Is this good news for John McCain?

Seth said...

Thanks for everything, Nate.

rbudayr said...

FIRST (or second)!
Thanks for everything, guys!

Andrew said...

Patti murray is most likely safe in Washington. Dino Rossi, a fairly well known republican, lost to Greogoire by 6 points. She has her supporters, but she's quite unpopular among lots of constituents (unfairly I think).

The republican party has no stars in the state. They'd have to have an Obama like republican to have any chance of unseating her.

Also, she's done a good job for the state and she'll be running for a 4th term, so she has some clout.

mullibok00 said...

Oh my God, Senate 2010, yes! I love you guys.

IslandLiberal said...

So, varying degrees of "safe, barring something big" so far, apart from maybe Oklahoma (and that's only if Brad Henry decides to run, although the election date does sync up nicely with his end-of-term).

Vinny said...

I feel really immature, but I laughed at the guy with the last name "crapo".

I wonder how much he got made fun of as a child...

Also Nate, what about pollster ratings? I assume you're waiting until the official results are 100% in, I guess.

RPlatypus said...

you put alabama really high up... artur davis, ron sparks, or little jim all have their eyes on higher office, and not all of them can run for governor. either could make a serious run at it...

Vinny said...

I'm hoping Daschle tries to run again. The Dakotas are trending Democratic, so it would probably be quite a tight race.

giantsfanxc said...

Glad you guys are sticking around for more, although I can't help thinking this is a bit early.

Thanks to Nate, Sean, and Brett for all of their outstanding work!

Morgante said...

Leahy doesn't belong on this list at all... he's basically untouchable around here. People really like him and there's no way Republicans in VT can mount a formidable opponent in basically any congressional race.

Vermont politics are interesting in that we love to split tickets. Our congressional delegationis overwhelmingly liberal and is very hard to beat, but our governor is a moderate republican while other statewide races are usually handily won by Dems. Meanwhile, local politics are dominated by Republicans.

andrea said...

Glad to hear that you'll still be around. I didn't want to go through fivethirtyeight.com withdrawal!

Jay Bullock said...

In Wisconsin, CW is that Paul Ryan (R-CD01) will wait until Herb Kohl retires in 2012. But Ryan has been fluffed a lot in the last few weeks, touted as a true Reagan conservative and an alternative to big-gummint Republicans like the one who just lost to Obama. Poaching Feingold in 2010 is clearly the tougher battle, but Ryan has more money than god and could be talked into making an honest-to-goodness race of it.

2004 is hardly the year to base projections on; Feingold's opponent, Tim Michels, had no elective experience and no resume but being a veteran. Michels beat a RINO and a (seriously) used car salesman for the honor of losing that race. 1998 might be a better base to start from; Wisconsin's a little bluer now than then but Mark Nuemann held the seat Ryan holds now and came within a few thousand votes of making Feingold a former senator.

If Ryan runs, all bets are off. If Ryan waits for the easy seat in 2012, the Feingold's a lock.

Just John said...

Vinny-

As a former Idaho resident, I'll disappoint you by pointing out that Crapo is promounced CRAY-po.

Of course, in Idaho, you could be called Lucifer Mo-Fo Pinko and get elected, as long as you had an R next to your name.

Not sure if the middle name "Hussein" is a bonus or not.

MysteryGFU said...

Oregon used to live splitting tickets too, until this year. There used to be a time that both parties had virtues to offer, but those days are gone. It's jugular time for the Dems. It would be wise of the elderly Dems to retire in 2010 while Obama is really popular. Inouye is a good example.

Just John said...

gfu-Inouye won't retire anytime soon, since he's about to get handed the plum of plums, the chairmanship of Appropriations.

MysteryGFU said...

I didn't quite understand the strategy behind transferring the leadership from a 91 year old to an 84 year old. Shouldn't the idea be to transfer power to a group of younger folks who can hang onto it for a long time?

liberal_defender_of_freedom said...

I'm glad you are already bringing up the Senate races. I had mentioned it a couple days back after hearing a discussion on C-Span. Dems in the Senate are looking good for at least six years or so.

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Homespun1 said...

Folks, these races are in reverse order of possibility of changing hands. So this first installment, is races that Nate thinks are NOT close. The close races are going to be his last drop, those are the ones we all will be salivating over.

Phil said...

Hm. I wonder which ones are big toss-ups. Boxer will presumably end up in a bit of a race of it, especially of Schwarzenegger runs against her. Salazar, being in a swing state, will also swing. Reid will be subject to a challenge because it's fun to bounce leadership from office, but he's fairly moderate, so he ought to be OK. But the Democrats are clearly fairly safe.

McCain might be in trouble, as might Murkowski. Martinez has to be in trouble in FL. Grassley should be in trouble. Gregg, Burr, and Voinovich are in generic trouble.

But by any measure, it'll be hard for the Republicans to make back much ground in the Senate in 2010. On the other hand, come 2012, it's a big mess of a race.

Joe The Fake Virginian said...

Only is the weirdest of years will the races above NOT go to the favorites. In many of them, according to Nate, another nominee in the same party would likely win.

andrew said...

Yes! More races, more analysis, more election data!!! I'm such a junkie.

I love that we're already talking about 2010. And there's more R's up for reelection than D's. If Obama's kicking ass and taking names, I'd expect a flurry of R retirements and D pick ups.

And MysteryGFU, I agree with you about elder Dems using this as an opportunity to hand their seats to younger dems. I hadn't considered that, but it makes total sense. I've got to say that I learn a lot from these comments and really appreciate everyone's opinions.

I also recommend www.senateguru.com for a progressive perspective on Senate races.

thene said...

You don't hang about, do you, Nate? A question, if I may - if the Alaska race ends with Stevens winning, being thrown out, and a special election being held, would the eventual winner be subject to a 2010 special, or just left to get on with the job for 6 years?

I'm still hoping you'll take a stab at the UK election in 2009/2010. A girl can dream, right?

seattle mike said...

I Agree with Andrew about WA. Sen Murray is safe even Sen Cantwell won convincingly 2 years ago and she is less popular than Murray.

The only republican that is popular state wide is AG Rob McKenna. However the rumor mill has him wanting the Govenor's Mansion in 2012.

ByeBye GOP said...

I am also from vermont. If I understand the way Nate has ranked the races Leahy the probability of Leahy being unseated is virtuaully Nil assuming he runs. If Leahy retires the chance of a Republican winnig that seat is virtually nil unless a Douglas runs (or the ghost of Jim Jeffords:-))We are talking about a State Nate that elected Bernie Sanders!!!!

Vinny said...

Also, what the HELL is taking Missouri so long? Missouri and Alaska need to actually start counting their ballots.

Secor314 said...

If you're appointed you have to win a special election in the next even-numbered year. The winner gets whatever is left of the term.

Jean Carnahan is a good example...her husband died, but was elected anyway. The governor chose her as his replacement but she was only guaranteed 2 years when she took office in 2001. In 2002 Jim Talent beat her for the last 4 years of the seat, and then Claire McCaskill beat him in 2006.

wv socton-how much it cost the RNC to provide Sarah Palin with footwear.

IslandLiberal said...

Alaska's new special election law means there wouldn't be any need for another special election in 2010.

musicman said...

Begich up to 58 on Intrade right now. Let's hope it works out.

Scarce said...

The second part of this list will be a lot more interesting than the first, which are mostly foregone conclusions.

Here's a list of those up for re-election in 2010.

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/two_column_table/Class_III.htm

It's quite possible the democrats will have more pick-up opportunities in 2010 than they did in 2008. And few if any vulnerabilities.

sib said...

Governor Lingle is probably dead in Hawaii politics. She spent the campaign on the Mainland, badmouthing Obama, even suggesting that he was not authentically from Hawaii. That did not play well in Hawaii, which went 74% for Obama. While she was neglecting the local elections, the Hawaii House and Senate went even even more lopsidedly Democratic.

All of this is irrelevant of Inouye is still around. There is no possibility he could lose -- even with a live boy AND dead girl scenario.

Sedi said...

"and may be too conservative even by South Carolina standards"

Bwwwhhhhh...the very thought is bone-chillingly terrifying.

Jacob said...

In the future, Nate, including the incumbent's age would be very helpful.

MysteryGFU said...

I lived in Phoenix for a year, and those people love Gov. Napolitano. If she runs against McCain in 2010, adios Johnny Mac.

It seems like we have some great people in unfortunate locations. Tim Kaine for example. John Warner just won re-election, so once Kaine's term limits are up, he's stuck with nowhere to go unless Obama picks him for the admin somewhere. Our other rising star, Schweitzer in Montana, is in a state that already has two Dem senators. Anyone know if Montana has term limits? If they do I suppose he could just wait until 2016 and run for Prez. Specter should be a pretty easy pickoff, even if he is almost a Democrat.

Davy said...

@RPlatypus

Shelby is really popular in AL. The seat is only likely to be in play if he decides to retire

wv: hamel - Luke, use the force

madamerica said...

Glad to hear that 538 is hear to stay. Keep up the good work!

Edmund said...

Seconding Jacob's comment: include ages of the senators up for re-election. It's always a bit of a shock to realize how many of them are old enough to remember the Roosevelt administration.

Vinny said...

If Specter is smart, he'll change his party affiliation.

Kelly said...

Schweitzer is term limited - he can't run again in 2012. Though, he could technically stay in office if re-elected by write-in vote. A funny little quirk in Montana's term limit rules.

I'm interested in the remainder of Nate's list. Just looking over the seats that are up in 2010, the Democrats look to be in a pretty good place to keep or expand their majority. Lincoln is the only one that jumps out to me as really vulnerable.

Glass said...

The conventional wisdom in Oklahoma political circles says that Henry wants the University of Oklahoma presidency, and it wouldn't surprise me to see David Boren step aside around the end of Henry's term to facilitate that. I highly doubt he will run against Coburn.

Unfortunately, most of the heavy-hitters among Democrats will likely be running for governor (Drew Edmondson, Scott Meachem, Jari Askins, etc). The one hope I have is Robert Butkin, currently the Dean of the University of Tulsa Law School. He's an actual progressive who has won statewide and could give Coburn a good battle. If Henry indeed does not run, I'd like to see the DNC try to land Butkin.

Adam said...

I frankly think Hoeven will be gaming for his senate run in 2010. If Hoeven doesn't go after Dorgan, Scharefer. Republicans have been salivating after Dorgan and Conrad for years. Neither of them are supposed to be there.

the old perfesser said...

Remember the end of "Ferris Bueller"? The movie's over - go home now.

20009 said...

Have to imagine that Dorgan, Conrad, and Pomeroy have figured out what it takes to get reelected in ND. And it's sure a lot easier to do that as a member of the majority.

Danel said...

I love you Nate but... it feels a little bit early to be thinking about 2010. We still don't know everyone who won in 2008.

Adrian said...

"uncertainty about whom the candidates might be" should be who not whom. You make the same mistake in item #25.

Michael said...

Nate,

I have a question that I think you are best suited to answer. I have heard from some people that Obama only one because of the African American population showed up. Would it be possible for you to do a post running numbers in each of the states estimating the result if the black vote and youth vote had turned out at 2000 and 2004 levels? I would be interested to know just how much the increased turnout mattered. This might have other implications for the 2010 midterms.

I really enjoyed the coverage all election season. Your website has been my number one source this entire election season. There were days I stayed at work later than I needed to just to see the polling thread. Also, the ground game reporting was fantastic. Thank you so very much.

Mike

Sedi said...

"John Warner just won re-election"

No, actually, we here in VA just elected Mark Warner to replace John Warner in the Senate. The 30-point incumbent-style win combined with their shared last name (no relation, though, I believe) make such confusion entirely understandable.

liberal_defender_of_freedom said...

Hey all. When did the most recent Time magazine hit the shelves? Thanks.

eve said...

This is great. By 2010 I will know so much about the senate races.

I wonder if McCain's senior staff took a look at Nate's projections.

Jack said...

"Of course, in Idaho, you could be called Lucifer Mo-Fo Pinko and get elected, as long as you had an R next to your name."

Tell Bill Sali that.

Assmole elect said...

michael, Obama is going full steam ahead on stem-cell research This will enable the Democrats to clone trillions of Africa Americans and ensure their safe re-election over several millennia until the Sun explodes in a Supernova in which event there will be no stimulus packages passed for days and Lieberman will be declared Tsar of all the Russias and rule with alongside his consort Sarah Palin the Many-Babied.

Assmole elect said...

or should it be 'stimuli packages'£?

sfergus483 said...

People outside of CA seem to be unaware of how unpopular Schwarzenneger is, and it is going to be far worst. He is presiding over a disastorous state budget, and based on a CNN interview today, seems to be pleading with Obama to appoint him to anything to get him away from the disaster. He would likely get crushed by Boxer barring a Dem meltdown in two years. And in any event, he'd be totally out of place as a freshman Senator in his mid-60s.

Assmole elect said...

35:Idaho: Democrats should find someone called Shito and put him up against Crapo. Then only an Independent with a name like Turdo could get taken seriously. That would be one helluva race.

Andy JS said...

"The exit polls were trash" - Karl Rove:

online.wsj.com/article/SB122593304225103509.html

Jo said...

I am from Maryland, and I would not give either Erlich or Steele great odds. (Steele has been a talking head on Fox this election season, which won't win him points in this very blue state.) The most successful Republicans are those who are moderates -- Connie Morella, for example.

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K. said...

Patty Murray's numbers reflect the Cascade Curtain divide between eastern and western Washington. Since 1992, she has won by 54-46, 58-42, and 55-43. Unless the political dynamic changes a lot, she is senator-for-life.

Rob McKenna may well run for governor in four years. Don't be surprised if his opponent is 1st District representative Jay Inslee.

Vinny said...

I have heard from some people that Obama only one because of the African American population showed up.

90% of blacks supported democrats. This year, 95% of blacks did.

So it brought up his popular vote margin, and maybe gave him a win in states like North Carolina, but would he have won without it? Absolutely yes.

Matthew said...

In OK, the rumor has it that Brad Henry doesn't want to leave OK until his girls are in college at least, and that he wants to replace D-Bo at OU.

I think Edmondson should run against Coburn. The man is an institution. Meacham has been angling for governor for a couple years now, and has one of the best Democratic fundraisers on staff at all times.

Personally, I think Askins should run for OK-04 if Cole goes for the governor's mansion. For a district that never votes for Dems, they love them some Jari Askins in Duncan...

green monkey said...

@Michael

"I have heard from some people that Obama only one because of the African American population showed up. "

About the AA vote. It's not really thinking straight to focus on AA-identified voting and not all voting based on identification with the candidates. If you have gender/race/religious differences between candidates, then ALL groups have a tendency to line up with candidates based on identification: women tend to favor Hilary, AA's Obama, older whites McCain. There are a lot more whites than blacks, and that's exactly why we haven't elected an AA to the presidency before. Voting based on voter-identification with the candidate did NOT favor Obama. He convinced people that he was the better candidate in spite of the politics of identification going against him. When I first heard one of those "I'm voting for the n****r stories, that's when I knew he could really win.

Another Mike said...

nate,

how much of the ranking is your guesswork and how much is numbers based?

Another Mike said...

Re Oklahoma,

I would think Boren (the younger) would be the most likely Dem candidate.

wv: valsidio, renowned for their March Madness upsets.

Myshkin57 said...

There's still a 1.1% chance McCain can win!!! YARRRGH!!!

gjdodger said...

I would expect it to be Schafer in North Dakota. There was no reason for Bush to name him Agriculture Secretary other than to burnish his credentials for the Senate, since he had no agricultural background; at the same time, he took positions on some issues that were opposite to those of his predecessor (Sen-elect Johanns) and appeared to be geared to mollifying his North Dakota farm constituency. I think Dorgan is going to have a much more difficult time of it than Nate does; you can figure Dems are likely to lose more seats than they gain in 2010, anyway, because that's just the way it is.

Eric said...

RE: Possible 2012 Candidates to run for GOP in order of this equation, likelihood to run X likelihood to secure nomination if running IMO :

#1 Romney
#2 Petraeus
#3 Gingrich
#4 Jindal
#5 J. Bush
#6 Palin
#7 Huckabee
#8 Thune

Anyone good I'm leaving off? No one else comes to mind.

Another Mike said...

I'm skeptical Dems should lose seats in 2010. Remeber, these guys were elected in 2004, generally a good Republican year. So, unlike the House, there's been no correction for the shift nationwide over the last four years towards the Democrats. If the Dems have not totally screwed things up over the next two years, then it should be a good year for us in the Senate. If the mood is anything like today, then it should be a great year for the Democrats.

Another Mike said...

eric,

I might include a trio of R governors--Crist, Pawlenty, and Perry.

pnewman98 said...

Pat Leahy is a Democrat and chairman of the Judiciary committee, not a Republican.

syr93 said...

nbcnews.com has an absurd error on their senate page. They say the Georgia runoff will be December 5th! That is a Friday, the real date is of course Tuesday, December 2. That really is poor.

MysteryGFU said...

My bad on the Warner confusion. I was looking at the DailyKos map, which hasn't updated the sitting senators section.

So, now that there are two Dems in Virginia, what is to become of Tim Kaine?

sfergus483 said...

VA is the only state with a one-term limit per governor (totally anachronistic) - he likely gets a Cabinet or equivalent position within the next year or so.

He has a Repub Lt Gov as I recall which likely precludes an immediate appointment.

coturnix said...

Watch out for the third parties, e.g., Libertarians, Greens, Socialists, Constitution party, Reformists, etc. They are smelling blood in the water as the GOP has just lost the last election in which the demographics allowed them to win. They will move in for the kill. They will be hosting many more candidates than this year and will get a much greater numbers of voters. Munger's success in NC puts the libertarians on the ticket next year. There will be a lot of water-muddying by the third party candidates in 2010 and beyond.

Sherman said...

Doesn't Coburn have self-imposed term limits?

Kelly said...

VA's rule against consecutive terms for governor is due to the fact that the Governor of Virginia has considerably more power than most governors - it keeps power from being concentrated in one guy for too long.

Kaine could run again, but he'd have to wait until 2013 (until John Warner decided to retire, Mark Warner was eyeing another run for governor in 2009 after serving from 2001-2005). As I don't see any other elected office in Virginia opening up for him ( Warner & Webb should hold the Senate seats for as long as they want them and Bobby Scott is Congressman-for-life of what would be his district), I hope Kaine does get a position in the Obama administration next year.

Kennyb said...

I'll give you a New Hampshire preview: I'd suspect Nate puts it in the top 5, and if the newly re-elected governor, John Lynch, runs in 2010 (the governor has 2-year terms) against Gregg, I'd suspect it would be a toss-up, or Lynch would be slightly favored, assuming he can weather this very tough budget crisis we are in. If Lynch does not run, I cannot think of a Democrat with strong enough name recognition here that is not already in power.

Lynch is quite bi-partisan and rather conservative, meaning that he tends not to use any of his political capital. So far, he's stayed out of trouble for 2 two-year terms and his re-election this year was never in a bit of doubt.

Another Mike said...

Coburn had a self-imposed term limit when he was in the House and he kept his promise. I do not believe he has ever said anything about a self-imposed term limit for the Senate and certainly not after just one term.

KIC said...

Kind of OT but....does anyone notice how that blue makes almost a complete bridge diagonally through The United States of America? Pretty cool. I wonder what the county map looks like though.

I heard an historian on CNN today talking about when he was recently in the Middle East. People kept saying to him that this campaign was all a set up. They didn't believe in any way shape or form that Obama would ever be allowed to become president. They totally were convinced he was a stage prop.

SURPRISE!!!!

Heh.

Patrick said...

I know we have no idea who will be running but 2010 I would say the Il (Obama's) is pretty safe Dem. The only statewide Dem in 2010 in trouble is Blago, but he won't make it out of the primary. I can't see the GOP winning here since suburbs switch to blue.

petelutz said...

TOO SOON!!! TOO SOOOOON!

Maybe I'll be ready for this when Ted Stevens has officially been beaten.

Maybe.

Rhonlynn said...

Nate, your work is valuable, and amazing, and your writing is intellectually stimulating. Thankyou for keeping up with this.I believe the senate seats are very important. And thankyou for remaining with us. But, please....help us in Missourii decide who the heck we (well, not me, lol) voted for in the election last Tuesday..this too close to call is driving me nuts!!!

Rhonlynn said...

I just left a comment and thought of another...Our Claire McCaskill (from MO, big Obama supporter),is doing awesome,and I think she stays. She is sassy, with a very smart sense of character. Besides, she gets alot done.

Brendan said...

Are you going to be doing House elections too? Because that would be amazing.

Matthew said...

Coburn says he is going to only serve two terms in the Senate, but there is a rumor that he'd enter the governor's race if the Republican field is weak.

I can only wish for an open seat. That'd make things so much easier.

DZ said...

A problem with McMorris Rodgers is that she is from Eastern Washington, which is a serious obstical here (although Goldmark won). There is decent chance that she could be the candidate to challenge Murry since the GOP bench is very weak here and our sronger Republicans such as McKinna would probably rather wait for the Governor's race in 2012. If McMorris Rodgers is not the candidate the Republicans will probably just put up some sacrificial lamb, or maybe Rossi if he feels like loseing another race.

onewestfalia said...

nate.. you da man! thanks for your insight. its funny, just as i was thinking about the dems prospects of getting a 60 seat majority in 2010, i went to 538 to check if there was any new posts.. and what was the subject of new post? the 2010 senate race. nice work. im curious to hear what you think the likelihood is, statistically, 2 years off, of this happening.. im sure you will post some stats and predictions in part 2 or 3, but i thought it was great that you started answering my question just as soon as i thought it. cheers!

calboy44 said...

Nate, according to pollster both CNN and ABC call NE 2CD for mccain why is it that you have called it for Obama and they called it for Mccain

Harry said...

Regarding the Senate race in Washington State in 2010, you say: "WA-5's Cathy McMorris Rodgers may eventually be an interesting candidate, but probably needs more seasoning." As a resident in her district, I think it's extremely unlikely that she will ever be a viable state-wide candidate -- much less, a viable opponent of Murray in 2010. For she is a RIGHT-WING Republican in a state which is now very strongly blue. Note, for example, that Spokane County, where I live -- which, like the rest of eastern Washington, has long been staunchly Republican, and was carried by Bush in both 2000 and 2004 -- was (happily!) carried by Obama. (Obama didn't carry it by much, but he carried it!) An attractive MODERATE Republican might, in certain circumstances, win a Senate race in our state. But Rodgers? I don't think so.

Just John said...

Rossi can't run again here. To lose once, agonizingly, is not a death sentence. To lose twice is.

wv - cayandi: When the dust settled, Palin was nothing more than eye cayandi on the GOP ticket.

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KIC said...

Obama gets the NE electoral

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2835&u_sid=10481441

I think CNN and ABC were just premature. It ain't by much, but I think it is official.

Vinny said...

CNN and CBS called Omaha for McCain today...wtf?

judas_priest said...

REgardng PA: I think it is unlikely that Specter gets re-elected.
1. He has cancer - don't know about his prognosis but it's out there.
2. He barely survived a primary challenge from the right wing int eh state, and now that they have had a figuartive red-hot poker reamed up their @$$, they will frothing at the mouth in 2010 and will likely take it out on Specter, especially since a lot of moderate R's left the party this past year.

wv=coost: A Scot would say I live on the West one.

matt said...

Vinni, I grew up down the street from the Crapos. (In Idaho, "down the street" means 4 miles or so.) I don't recall anyone ever making fun of his or his daughters' last name, probably because we heard it before reading it. That said, he's a crappy Senator.

moondancer said...

I like Patrick Murphy to challenge and beat Specter. Arlen is not as well loved as he thinks he is, he'll face the best organized Dems ever with the remnants of the 08 campaign.

Davy said...

@eric

thoughts on your horse race picks:

Romney and Huckabee - definitely

Palin - wouldn't be surprised but I think America knows better now. This ain't no beauty pageant. Never know though, she could have a PR turnaround between now and then if she stops talking.

Gingrich - Brand is too damaged

Jeb - Same thing. W took a lot down with him besides the republican party.

I'm not sure about Petraus. Not even sure if he's republican.

Jindal - a good probability. repubs may be looking to clean up their cracker only image after this election. Maybe Palin/Jindal?

Boy, this campaign withdrawal is tough.

wv: goredlyp - ?

PeixeGato said...

A year ago, I thought that Sen. Boxer was going to have a really tough run in 2010 against Arnold. Then came the budget fiasco and Arnold proved to the state that he is completely impotent when it comes to getting even ONE member of his own party to budge on the budget. Based on how he handled the budget issue, I just can't see the Repubs in this state backing him as their candidate. They'd be too worried he would "bow to the 'tax and spend Dems'" if he ever got to Washington.

Of course, back in 2005, after Arnold made the "girlie men" comment, I thought he was a short-timer at that point. But over the course of the following year, he was able to rehabilitate himself and win a second term (of course having a weak opponent also helped him).

Hmmm, so what's my point? Oh yes, California is a whacky state. While Sen. Boxer is a strong incumbent, its far too early to tell what will happen in 2010.

PeixeGato said...

I can't imagine Jindal running second fiddle to Palin in 2012. While I can't stand his positions on much of anything, he is a much more politically astute and intelligent person. I mean, he's an brown-skinned Indian-American who won in LOUISIANA and remains very popular! Not to mention, the party "leaders" have seen the damage done by Palin and if they have someone like Jindal available, they are most certainly not going to allow her to top the ticket. Remember, the Repub party is all about loyalty and "waiting your turn", for both of which Jindal scores high marks.

I can't see Palin going anywhere if anyone outside of Alaska has any say in it. In other words, unlesss Stevens wins the Senate seat and is then kicked out of the Senate, allowing Palin to run for his seat, I think she'll keep on being the Governor way up there and will fade into obscurity (anybody seen Dan Quayle lately? Exactly.)

PeixeGato said...

I do wonder if after what they saw in this election season, will the Repubs tack even farther to the right in a desperate display of denial about what the country wants, or will they wake up and push the right wing hardliners where they belong and put a more moderate and tolerant face on the party?

John said...

Piggybacking off of moondancer's comment, Patrick Murphy is a good candidate, but I've also heard Joe Sestak's name bandied about as a possible candidate to run against Specter. (Certainly a better bet than Rendell, who I've heard mentioned, but makes no sense to me.)

No matter who runs, I believe Specter will be in a fair bit of trouble next time around. He is well liked in PA, but he has the big red kiss of death attached to his name.

WV: sioiled. The Bush administration sioiled the Republican brand nationwide, hastening the party's retreat into Southern regionalism.

Vinny said...

Joe Sestak is my rep, and I'd love to see him run. I was so grateful in 2006 when we kicked out that ass Weldon.

Why does it seem like all we're kicking out is moderate republicans? Don't get me wrong, a democrat is always better, but I'd much rather see us take out more conservative and staunch republicans.

interstices said...

Ranking Crapo at #35 is appropriate as he won in 1998 with 69.5 percent of the vote and then 99.2 percent in 2004 as the Dems failed to even field a candidate.

KJJ said...

"1998 might be a better base to start from; Wisconsin's a little bluer now than then but Mark Nuemann held the seat Ryan holds now and came within a few thousand votes of making Feingold a former senator."

That's a good point. I remember that race. But I think one thing that should also be mentioned anecdotally about that race is Feingold was holding himself to some pretty strict campaign fundraising standards that year if I recall correctly. His opponent basically outspent him for most of the summer leading up to the election and Feingold didn't start spending his money on television advertising until very late in the campaign cycle. He still put limits on his campaign financing in 2004 but nothing as close as what he did in 1998.

Thompson would be a nightmare for me. I never understood my state's love for this guy.

Pssst said...

Re: 2010

Can we please start saying twenty-ten instead of two-thousand-ten?

I like twenty-ten much better.

PresidentHussein said...

It's worth noting that among the states that got Barack to 269, his overall victory margin was 20.0%. Add in CO, which got him to 278, and it's 19.6%. (I exclude minor party totals.) This is huge! Moreover, the lowest margin states in that bunch (CO 8.8, IA 9.4, NH 9.6, PA 10.5, MN 10.5, NV 12.7) seem to be getting bluer, as are VA (5.6) and OH (4.0). Looks like bright years ahead for the Dems, any way you cut it.

Greg said...

Jeebus, it's too soon for 2010. I need to wean myself off fivethirtyeight.com.

That being said, Jindal won't run in 2012 unless Obama's a disaster, and he won't be. Jindal is waiting for 2016. And we better be ready for him. Obama is probably going to maneuver Petraeus in some way so P. can't run. Look for a blood match between Romney & Thune, and maybe a very ambitious Patrick McHenry.

The Winch said...

OK, so this has nothing to do with the thread title, but I'd like to point out the nice NY Times article on Nate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/business/media/10silver.html?_r=1&ei=5070&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&emc=eta1&adxnnlx=1226308088-Jq4hF6raZ2ox772tOpMfxA

I especially liked pre-school Nate's "Today, I'm a numbers machine" story and the face group fan club reference.

The Winch said...

Err...probably that URL works better if you leave out all the crap after 10silver.html

samfrye said...

Very nice piece about you in The NY Times today, Nate.. you probably already knew that. Anyway: Congrats, it's well-deserved.

justsomeguy said...

The right is already attacking him as "very liberal" for centrist changes.

Joe Scarborough should be fired!

justsomeguy said...

Did we need to read Nate's plan for 538 in the BYTimes?

"FiveThirtyEight, using it to predict Congressional votes during the Obama administration — if anyone cares. "

I LOVE it! True geekdon brought to Washington across the board! Not only elections, but positions and votes. Lots of polls on abortion, research, sceince, health, and lots of bad polls to be shreded!

THIS is where 538 should go, so of course Nate already figured that out and is taking us there.

Now get a dedicated site, and quit with blogger, or use your popularity to drive blogger to better usability.

justsomeguy said...

Of course I meant NYTimes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/business/media/10silver.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=nate%20silver&st=cse&oref=slogin

kathy said...

PAT LEAHY is in no danger in Vermont, and will be re-elected easily if he chooses to run.

Jim Douglas was re-elected this cycle for two reasons:

1) He had two opponents. The Democrat was a very weak campaigner, and the Progressive was strong enough to get as many votes as the Democrat, and got several coveted union endorsements (and advertised here). If Douglas had had one strong opponent he might well have lost. Can't tell you how many times friends have asked me "who did you vote for." With no late season polling until we were into early voting there was little opportunity to strategise. That said, Douglas got 50% (or it would have been thrown to the legislature)

2) We don't throw out office holders lightly. There's a tradition of figuring it's your job to keep unless you've crossed the line in some way (one more reason Leahy is safe). There may have been some nervousness about a very democratic legislature needing a balance.

Also, we see the state and national offices differently. There's a consensus here that Bernie could not have been elected governor. Too far left. But we're more than happy to let him go be a socialist thorn in Washington's side.

scaryice said...

Seems to me like the top races should be all GOP held seats, except for maybe Colorado. Maybe California if Arnold decided to run.

Florida, Kentucky, Missouri, New Hampshire, and Ohio should all easily make the top ten.

Plus, if the female governors of Arizona and Kansas decide to run (don't make me spell their names), those seats could be DEM gains as well.

Nate, I love rankings like these and it's never too early.

WakeUpEverybody said...

Nate said:

"For one thing, I want to make it clear that FiveThirtyEight will be a presence on the political scene for a long time to come."

Yeah, baby!!! Political polling clarity.

WV - brabi as in caribou brabi?

John said...

GO NATE! GO NATE! GO NATE!

AND THE FIVETHIRTYEIGHT TEAM!

GO! GO! GO!

This and Talkingpointsmemo are the only two blogs I go to for politics.

Assmole elect said...

justsomeguy's real name is Crapo.

Assmole elect said...

If BHO had changed his middle name to Hussecrapo would he have won Idaho perhaps?

Assmole elect said...

Crapo aside, what if Colbert runs as an independante (maybe choosing Sen. Turdo (I-ID) as his running mate). That would upset the apple cart in 2012 BC.

Insult Comic Dog said...

Waiting for the updated...

Pollster Ratings!

Derek said...

So a fun thought... what if Colbert ran for the Senate race in South Carolina? He'd get huge youth vote and plenty of funding and he's a very smart guy. It would make things fun...

Rebecca said...

@Another Mike:

Charlie Crist will not be a presidential candidate as he is, like, totally gay. Everyone in Florida knows this. He made a pathetic half-a*ssed attempt to erect a semi-opaque closet around himself during this election season by getting 'engaged' to a 'New York socialite' with whom 'no date has been set', but once he was passed over for the VP-candidate spot the socialite disappeared from the news, he retreated to his home where he lives with his pool boy, and he stayed very, very quiet in the hope that no one would make a fuss about the fact that he was refusing to say that he was in favor of Amendment 2 (our spanking-new despicable gay marriage ban).

Even in the post-Obama, anything-is-possible world we suddenly live in, I still can't imagine the Republicans running a gay candidate for president. The full extent of his gayness would be apparent as soon as the media started poking at him.

chris said...

Technical term for the female "consort" of a closeted gay man - BEARD

Smitty said...

Checking in from South Carolina... Jim DeMint is NOT too conservative for this state. We just don't like him very much; he comes across as having more ideology than brains and South Carolinians have a complex about not seeming stupid on the national stage (something to do with our "thank God for Mississippi" attitude in public education, and Miss Teen South Carolina didn't help matters; that's why SC loved Sarah Palin, she was a dummy from another state). The problem is the Democratic party has NO bench in this state and won't be able to find anybody to run against him. He'll probably get primaried... but from what angle? He's got the far right marked out already and you don't win a GOP primary in this state by saying you're more moderate than the other guy.
That said... my friends, and our acquaintances, and people we meet on the bus, all really want Stephen Colbert to run. He could win... the problem is, a lot of SCers watch his show and would be confused if Colbert the man ran instead of Colbert the character, because they don't understand the distinction. I think Colbert knows that, too, which is why he might stay out.
Still, never say never. I would certainly campaign for the man... either man, actor or character. Even Colbert the character couldn't be worse than DeMint, and he'd be lots more fun.

Raj said...

It's never too early to contact your local state or co. Dem. party folks, and see what you can do to help Dems in '10!!!

IVSTINIANVS said...

Hm. What bothers me about these approval/disapproval ratings is that the republicans all have approvals well into the 60s or 70s in their states, while only Inouye and Leahy get approvals higher than the 50s.

Frank Keegan said...

http://www.baltimoreexaminer.com/opinion/_Maryland_power_good_for_America.html
Maryland power good for America

By The Baltimore Examiner Newspaper
- 11/9/08

When the 111th Congress convenes in January Maryland’s little delegation will wield immense power officially and even more unofficially. Every citizen of this state must have faith that such power will be used for the greater common good.
We well know and trust Steny Hoyer, House of Representatives Majority Leader. We feel downright familial about Senate powerhouse Barbara Mikulski. And Sen. Ben Cardin, who brings a decade of Congressional connections to his first term, is a comfortable friend.

Most of all, powerful Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi may have her heart in San Francisco, but her deepest roots draw from the rich soil of Baltimore’s D’Alesandro political dynasty.

Of course, that bodes well for Maryland as Democrats take control of Congress and the presidency for the first time in 14 years. Let us not kid ourselves about having powerful people from our state in high office bringing certain benefits. It is inherent to all governance.

But it also must bode well for all of America. Why?

Because we know these folks grew to political maturity in the turbulent environment of Maryland public life.

Here in this 2-to-1 blue state, the actual reality tends more toward purple. Dealing with conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans accustoms our politicians to the art of compromise. Political conflicts often cleave more along issue lines than party lines. No wonder our recent slogan was “America in Miniature.”

Want evidence? We’re the state of the 1st Congressional District where President Bush endorsed liberal nine-term Republican dissident Congressman Wayne Gilchrest in a losing primary bid. Then Gilchrest endorsed centrist Democrat Frank Kratovil against conservative Republican Andy Harris. What did voters do?

About 350,000 of them split evenly on Kratovil and Harris after support for Bush grew from 57 percent in 2000 to 62 percent in ’04.

Pundits, prepare to scratch your heads when you ponder Maryland.

That’s just the way we are, and it’s a good thing. It assures us that if this one-party Congress and historic new administration drift toward some kind of political rampage, leadership from Maryland will impose common sense for the common good.

They know this most recent mandate for change in America is overwhelmingly a rejection of Bush administration aberrant policies than an embracing of President-elect Barack Obama’s vague, untested policies.

Where Democrats take America in the next four years could determine our nation’s future for a century. Fate has placed daughters and sons of Maryland in positions of immense power to forge that destiny.

We are comforted to know them, and that they will do the right thing.

Find this article at:
http://www.baltimoreexaminer.com/opinion/_Maryland_power_good_for_America.html

Cale said...

I'll weigh in on the WA race. As others have noted, the real star of the GOP is AG Rob McKenna. I doubt he'll run in 2010 because he's too smart a politician to tilt at windmills like that. Unless there is some kind of big shift, Murray and Cantwell aren't going anywhere. The GOP will make noise about taking them out, but in the end, they have better places to invest.

I think Rob McKenna will eventually run for, and probably win, higher office in WA, just not right now. He is the only real prospect the state GOP has in its farm system right now.

Matt said...

Nate,

I know it may be your "job" to do this, and I'm sure all the politicians are thinking the exact same thing right about now, but consider that average people like me are BURNT OUT after the longest continuous election cycle in US history. How 'bout a vacation (you guys have certainly earned it!)

The mindset of perpetual campaigning is not conducive to a healthy society.

Torsten Adair said...

Chuck Schumer does an incredible job of helping his rural electorate, and his last election was a landslide, with 71% of the vote. While the Republicans would like to get revenge for his leadership roles in the past two elections, it's very unlikely that he will be unseated. (Did anyone of note run against Moynihan?)

To the 538 crew, could you please include the previous election results when discussing each senatorial race, so that we can see how popular each incumbent is? And, if not too much trouble, include how long they've served, and which committees they are part of? Thanks!

Ina said...

Nate, Sean,

Am so glad you guys are going to be active in upcoming political stuff- it's nice to read intelligent use of statistics...

ina

John said...

MY 2010 SENATE TARGETS
by vulnerability
(some seats may be open)

1 - Specter PA
2 - Gregg NH
3 - Voinovich OH
4 - Murkowski AK
5 - Vitter LA
6 - Grassley IA
7 - Burr NC
8 - Bond MO
9 - McCain AZ
10 - Martinez FL

Based 90% on gut, 5% on popularity of incumbent, 5% on election trends.

Comments/Criticisms welcome!

ralph058 said...

Sessions is not likely very vulnerable, but I can think of at least one way to get rid of him.

A bunch of the BananaRepublicans are pragmatic Libertarians. My guess is more than a fourth of them. Most people in Alabama are football nuts.

Somebody bankroll getting a Libertarian to the forefront. Then, get an ex-Alabama or ex-Auburn member of NFL to run. It would be best if he played for Atlanta or Nashville. Preferably he'd be black and charismatic. That will mobilize about 1/4 the population that normally doesn't normally vote.

This would force a runoff. Sessions would probably not be in the runoff. Win-win.

James said...

Of course, all this assumes Obama and his administration continue to be popular in 2010. Everyone remembers what happened to the Dems in 1994.

Joseph said...

Coburn is retiring.

walt526 said...

Boxer (D-CA) has got her first GOP challenger: Chuck DeVore

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/capitolalertlatest/016928.html


At first blush, I don't think he's got much of a shot. Her previous two challengers (Matt Fong in 1998 and Bill Jones in 2004) had both won a statewide election prior challenging her and were defeated fairly easily. I follow California state politics fairly closely and I'm pretty unfamiliar with DeVore, other than than him wanting to drill off-shore.

Unless popular sentiment swings fairly dramatically against the Democrats, I don't see Boxer having a problem defeating DeVore.

Matt said...

Vitter is vulnerable to a primary challenge-something about his evangelical Christian base and the fact that he was caught in a prostitution scandal.

Schwarzenegger blew most of his credibility over the last year. Barring extreme anti-Democratic sentiment, he won't be a real threat to Boxer.

Reid is vulnerable-he's taken most of the flak for Congress' extreme unpopularity, and Nevada's still got Republicans who could beat him.

Salazar is safe-his only real threat, Republican ex-gov. Bill Owens, passed on the 2004 & 2008 open-seat Senate races, which he easily could have won. Hard to believe Owens would wait for a difficult race to open up before running.

Feingold is also safe-he nearly lost in 1998 because he voluntarily & severely limited his own fundraising and spending, not because of his opponent.

st paul sage said...

i hope i'm not being a pest but i've thrown this thought out in a couple ofplaces (fix, senate guru) and i'm interested in nate's view obviously but also those of residents of these states.

Strategically, it makes more sense for President Obama to nominate current Republican Senators than Democratic Senators to high-profile cabinet spots. Three possible choices would be:

1> Arlen Specter: a moderate in some areas, who would open up the PA seat to a strong Democratic appointment or

2) Judd Gregg: he's smart and tough and would be the favorite against even Hodes, but maybe there's some policy areas where he would a thoughtful voice with common ground with an Obama administration? Or maybe a prominent Judgeship (anyone remember Governor Youngdahl of MN, who, by being named a judge, was taken out of a race against first term Senator Humphrey?).

3> John McCain: On immigration or Health and Human Services, he could be a real leader and leave his mark on our nation while being such a fabulous symbol of non-partisan leadership for both himself and Obama. And think of the deliciousness of Senator Kolbe? It's every political junkie's dream! (well with the possible exception of Gov Napolitano) Maybe Secretary of the Interior Kolbe?

Of course all 3 of them know they would hurt the current caucus in the Senate by taking such an appointment.

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