10.02.2008

Vice-Presidential Debate Liveblog #1: Live From Wash U.

8:57 CDT: [Sean] Biden gives very strong answer right after Nate offers constructive criticism; maybe Biden's having better luck reloading blogger.com.

8:54 CDT: [Nate] Biden has getting a little bit too wordy in the last couple of responses.

8:53 CDT: [Sean] Awww, they both love Israel! Too cute!

8:51 CDT: [Nate] If any of the pundits are watching the audience meters, I don't think they'll say that she's beating expectations.

8:49 CDT: [Sean] I think a lot of regular Joes and Janes are empathizing with Palin, who is giving it her level best. The pro-Obama crowd we're sitting with is not getting the Miss Teen South Carolina show it expected. Now Biden is smirking as Palin talks about diplomatic relations with enemies.

8:46 CDT: [Sean] On the split screen as Biden gives this strong answer on which is a greater threat, Palin was smirking.

VP Debate - BrettMarty.com


8:45 CDT: [Sean] I can foresee the praise for Palin's performance on the post-mortem cable shows already. She has beaten expectations -- the lowest expectations in history.

8:42 CDT: [Nate] To be completely frank if that were anyone other than Sarah Palin on stage, this would be regarded as a blowout at this point.

8:38 CDT: [Sean] Palin seems a lot more relaxed than she was at the outset. But I'm not sure that's a good thing, it makes her go freestyle, and freestyle hasn't really worked very well recently.

8:35 CDT: [Nate] Biden has figured out that he can take a bunch of free shots at McCain since Palin can't go off-script. Fairly well played.

8:34 CDT: [Sean] Thanks for bearing with us. Not blogger.com's finest hour.

8:30 CDT: [Sean] "I'm not sure what her position is" is a good way to provoke Palin to have to explain.

8:29 CDT: [Nate] Palin's peaks on the audience meter keep getting lower. I think a fraction of people are tuning her out at this point. It feels to me that they might have decided to play it safe and concede a tie or a small loss for the sake of avoiding some kind of catastrophe.

8:25 CDT: [Sean] Palin: “How long have I been at this, like, five weeks?”

8:23 CDT: [Nate] I'm watching the CNN audience meters. Biden is doing distinctly better than Palin so far, although she had one or two very favorable responses.

8:21 CDT: [Sean] "The Ultimate Bridge to Nowhere!" [Nate] I actually think that answer could have been a little bit tighter. Biden got a little bit too caught up in the details at the end.

8:20 CDT: [Nate] You can tell she's scripted because she's literally rushing through her lines.

8:18CDT: [Nate] Over under on number of “middle classes?” 20? [Sean] Gimme the over, baby.

8:17 CDT: [Sean] Biden’s other mission – to hammer the issue of taxes and fairness and middle class. And” “the governor didn’t answer the question.”

8:15 CDT: [Sean] And I think we have our theme – Joe Biden: “she did not answer the question.” And the reply. “I’m not gonna answer the question, and people are gonna love my spunk!” Biden finds this hilarious. The split screens on C-Span are priceless.

8:11 CDT: [Sean] Biden is not going after Palin, he’s explaining why John McCain’s philosophy has led to this economic crisis.

VP Debate - BrettMarty.com


8:07 CDT: [Nate] Holy run-on sentence, Batman! [Sean] Joe Biden is definitely letting her talk.

8:07 CDT: [Sean] We have the C-Span feed here, by the way. She seems very rehearsed. Biden seems relaxed. Palin endorses new and different change, not someone who's been in the Senate for a long time. Coming soon: Obama-Palin '08!

8:07 CDT: [Nate] Palin is doing well enough so far, but sounds very nervous.

8:05 CDT: [Nate] Is Biden sick or is this his way to take an exceptionally sober tone?

7:58 CDT: [Sean] Hello from Washington University in St. Louis. This is kind of home turf for me, as I grew up in neighboring University City and Clayton and went to public schools nearby. During high school I spent many hours in Olin Library.

We’re going to do our best, given Blogger.com’s major problems, to bring you a good liveblog. If we have gaps, we'll keep timestamping our comments and update when we can.

237 comments

Mule Rider said...

Okay...pronunciation of "nuclear" does not qualify or disqualify anybody...however, having about as much of a clue as a sophomore business major at Timbuktu University does make one incapable of serving as Vice President.

She hasn't a clue.

PorridgeGun said...

Thought the audience were supposed to remain silent?

J said...

God and heaven b.s. is offensive in a debate forum. Some of us are atheists! :)

Poker Samurai said...

---I beg to differ. Four points the other way. ---

That'd be great. Also it would be great if it started raining money in my living room.

Nam Vet Joe From Jersey said...

I can't wait for SNL this week---you know Tina is watching this.

ialex said...

Biden is losing this. Badly.

I disagree. Vehemently. Biden is so at ease with his knowledge. Palin is so scripted. And the CNN insta-poll users definitely like Biden.

J said...

More executive privilege! Even more than now!!! More! More!

J said...

Go Biden. Article I. Nice.

Brian said...

I want to kick my shouts out to West Wasilla Elementary...Westsssiiiiiddddddeeeee.

I understand that she's trying to attract the average American, but come on. I hope that average people are smart enough to know that she's s a joke. I know that I am.

Poker Samurai said...

---I disagree. Vehemently. Biden is so at ease with his knowledge. Palin is so scripted. And the CNN insta-poll users definitely like Biden.---

That doesn't matter. This isn't a contest of who people like better during this debate. It's a contest of it Biden allows Palin to be plausibly seen as an equal. He has.

G-Man said...

Wow, unloading with both barrels on Dick Cheney.

I have a mancrush.

ialex said...

^ Nope.

Nam Vet Joe From Jersey said...

Don't even bother with the question Sarah

Mason said...

Ah... Joe!!!

Article I is the Legislative Branch!!
Article II is the Executive Branch!!

He is right that the only mention in I.3 is that the VPOTUS is the President of the senate and votes to break ties.

Mark said...

That follow up VP question had her reeling! Biden showed comprehensive knowledge of the constitution, Palin really looked unprepared. Thats the first really hard blow of the night.

Mason said...

KLEENEX!!!

He's having a Hillary moment.

That's got to be worth a couple of points, no?

Justin said...

@Real Joe

I never thought I would say this..but I have alot more respect for you tonight than I thought I would ever have. It is very refreshing to see a McCain supporter admit that Palin just isn't the right choice. It absolutley astonishes me when people will put up their credibility to vouche for a complete idiot just because she has an R behind her name.


BTW, Biden just hit it off BIG with the kitchen table thing

tero said...

LOL - the graphs dive at 45 degree angle when Palin starts speaking.

Voter said...

Does she have something in her eye? If she winks one more time I'm going to crawl through the tv with and bitch slap her.

Matthew said...

Biden is killing. She hasn't totally bombed but she's just not in his league.

don't panic said...

maverick, maverick, maverick, maverick...

did i mention maverick?

don't panic said...

i just threw up
oh my goodness!!!!!

sophiep said...

I don't know if someone's already mentioned this but, did she say she was going to get rid GREED on Wall Street?
Really?
Isn't greed one of the foundations of capitalism?

ialex said...

She did well. But she is not in Biden's league.

Sara said...

In my humble opinion, no one should be eligible to hold the position of either President or Vice President if they don't have enough sense to pronounce "nuclear" correctly. I rolled my eyes enough over that one when Carter was in the White House. It's embarrassing. Someone coach that woman.

Mike said...

CNN's dial-polls clearly showed that Palin started strong and faded, while Biden started slow but dominated the last 2/3 of the debate.

No gaffes, but only because she refused to go off-script. The tide turned when Biden realized this and started using it to his advantage to hit McCain.

Repubs will spin this as a draw or a win because they played it safe. I think it may stop the bleeding among Republicans who were considering jumping ship. But I don't think it will help McCain at all among Independents.

Mike said...

MSNBC pundit Harold Ford: She had a set of answers to a set of questions, and she answered those questions even if they weren't asked.

MARCUS said...

I mean, I'm sure Palin is a blast at a cocktail party, but this is grownup time.

Real Joe said...

Obama gets his own channel

Obama channel on the DIsh Network

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/The_Obama_channel.html

WOW

jonathan said...

Palin showed she isn't ready for the show, but we all knew that. Biden showed he can use restraint and not get fundamentally tripped up debating against a woman.

Palin won this debate. She exceeded expectations by much more than Biden did.

Anyone who cared about Palin being a capable V.P. abandoned the McCain ticket long ago.

Ehren said...

I just read an article from Yahoo!News... The title is "Palin stands her ground in VP debate with Biden". Check it.

It's kinda hard to do worse than what was expected when the bar was buried in the ground.

lous said...

Palin thinks that she lost the VP debate.
Watch this interview here: http://tubedirects.net/index.php?q=Palin-Fox-interview

jayKayEss said...

I was gonna be like, "wait! Olin Library is at Cornell!" But a quick Google search reveals five or six Olin Libraries.

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