The polls take a back seat to tonight's debate -- we'll be liveblogging, of course -- but let's give you the numbers and then touch upon a couple of high-level themes:
Still lots of blue in that table. But this was at least a day in which things did not appear to get any worse for John McCain. McCain improved his position in three of the seven tracking polls; Obama gained in one, and the other three were flat. In most of the state polling -- like the set of CNN polls for instance -- the trends were basically flat from the last time in the polls were in the field. That's certainly better for McCain than Obama continuing to gain ground. (By the way, we use the version of the CNN polling with third-party candidates included, which is why our numbers may differ from other sources).
Meanwhile, our model is starting to make some decisions about just where it thinks Obama's momentum is manifesting itself. Specifically, it thinks that he's gained the most in states with lots of white, working class Clinton voters -- a result which might be intuited by the huge numbers that he's posting in Pennsylvania, or the fact that there's now another West Virginia poll out that shows the race nearly tied.
As a result, we're now coloring West Virginia white (toss-up) rather than pink (lean McCain). The model also thinks that Arkansas could be quite interesting the next time that it gets polled. The flip side is that Obama doesn't seem to have quite as much momentum in the Western half of the country, where Clinton generally performed poorly during the primaries.
10.15.2008
Today's Polls, 10/15
by Nate Silver @ 6:17 PM...see also arkansas, colorado, florida, georgia, illinois, kansas, massachusetts, missouri, nevada, new mexico, north carolina, pennsylvania, today's polls, virginia, washington, west virginia
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Justin said...
to add...if I could afford it...which i maybe could...I could maybe give 25 to Obama and another 25 to a senate... but that I'd just be torn on throwing that out the window and putting 50 towards either one
McCain's camp is going to spend about $100MM the last two weeks strategically in the Battleground. They're sitting on their money. If you have a Senate race you're really focused on, then split your donation. Otherwise, send it to Obama.
@ Justin
After hearing about what a loathsome creature Chamblass Saxwhatshisname is, I donated to the GA senate race. I live in NY.
Wait...grr...was it a necklace or bracelet...I can't remember...
guess what's getting added to Netflix que right now........
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20081015/pl_ynews/ynews_pl87
Hey Nate,
This yahoo story clumsily twists some of your words to make it seem like Obama really isn't that far ahead. God I have shitty reporters...It's difficult to even understand what their supposed logic should mean in the context.
I'm sorry but Hillary Clinton is no Emma Thompson. I was a big Hillary supporter but Emma Thompson would kick her ass!
Eric,
Thanks--it's obviously really important to me that this goes well. Believe it or not, I've ordinarily been strenuously apolitical. Bush 04 changed all of that. I just want my country back now!
First live blog thread up
Amazing:
The Sacramento County Republican Party compared Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., to terrorist leader Osama bin Laden, urging voters to "Waterboard Barack Obama."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/stay-classy-sac.html
Hmm...I really haven't been keeping on top of senate races so I don't know all the dirty things out there really....You see in my state we have Robertson and...ugh...hang on let me vomit before I say his name...okay Sam Brownback. Both of which always get re-elected...them and the NRA sockpuppet Todd Tihart...
anywho, I don't really know what senate races have a very good chance, or a 40/60ish chance of going D so any further feedback I could get on which race will be more beneficial I would greatly appreciate it
I know my fellow Dems out there would like to say they all are 50/50 out there...but I just don't quite buy all that....yet
Obama is going to carry all of the Gore/Kerry States including IA,NH,and NM. 264ev. plus
CO,VA,OH,NV,= 311ev.
FL and MO are leaning Obama
AR,IN,NC,and WV are tossups.
justin:
Obama's going to need that money when the RNC unleashes their coffers in a 72 hour push/smear campaign.
How about this.
You donate the $25 to Obama, and i'll donate $25 to Hagen. Right now.
ryan,
I think they had to fill some copy space and they had some big US maps for a lot of it. The headline is about a landslide being a sure thing. Of course it isn't. That's what the article started with as the question and ended with the answer of no. No one IS predicting a landslide (who knows anything). Most (including Nate) are saying that a possibility exists for it. Period.
<< just donated $100.00 to Obama for American Campaign.
The well is now dry...lol. $400.00 over the course of the campaign.
One less Christmas gift this year.
Justin
Use Nate's Senate race scorecard (right side) as a good place to start.
Need to know if I should donate money to Obama's website, or to a senate race that is tight (if the latter, am I allowed to if I do not reside in that state? And also, If I can....I was thinking of donating for Hagan...that way we can have no Doles and no Bush's in American politics anymore!)
One thought --
http://www.actblue.com/page/meta-analysis-08
Sam Wang's statistical analysis of where senate donations can be most effective.
I just wanted to say to GaMeS:
Your argument about voter fraud and racial profiling was so wonderfully laid out, so comprehensively explained I jsut thought you should get some props. Seriously. The fear of Arab Terrorism and "voter" fraud (actually voter registration fraud but lets not get picky) are so illusory that it boggles the mind. If your constantly afraid of boogeymen how can you make a calm and rational argument or decision. Please think through your positions. MY dad has voted Republican in every election in which he has voted. Nixon. TWICE. Bush? TWICE. He's voting for Obama. WHy? Because all though he is conservative he hjas taken this opportunity to actually question h is ideology and beliefs in the light of ew circumstances. Republicanism is now all about doubling down. Crazy
I'm like you mc9cain -- easier not to watch and "view" it second hand through the blogs and comments.
"Fannie and Freddie" reference. DRINK!
2008 Presidential Results.
DC- 94-6 (Obama-D)3
HI- 65-33 (Obama-D)7
VT- 64-34 (Obama-D)10
MD- 64-34 (Obama-D)20
NY- 63-36 (Obama-D)51
MA- 62-37 (Obama-D)63
DE- 60-38 (Obama-D)66
RI- 59-37 (Obama-D)70
CT- 58-39 (Obama-D)77
IL- 58-40 (Obama-D)98
CA- 57-41 (Obama-D)153
IA- 57-41 (Obama-D)160
WA- 56-42 (Obama-D)171
ME- 56-42 (Obama-D)175
OR- 56-43 (Obama-D)182
NJ- 55-42 (Obama-D)197
WI- 55-43 (Obama-D)207
PA- 55-43 (Obama-D)228
MI- 54-44 (Obama-D)245
MN- 54-44 (Obama-D)255
NH- 53-44 (Obama-D)259
VA- 53-46 (Obama-D)272(Obama wins)
CO- 52-46 (Obama-D)
NM- 52-46 (Obama-D)
FL- 52-47 (Obama-D)
OH- 51-47 (Obama-D)
NV- 51-48 (Obama-D)
MO- 50-49 (Obama-D)200
NC- 50-49 (Obama-D)189
WV- 49-49 (TIE)174
IN- 48-50 (McCain-R)169
AR- 48-50 (McCain-R)158
ND- 47-51 (McCain-R)152
GA- 47-52 (McCain-R)149
MT- 46-52 (McCain-R)134
LA- 46-52 (McCain-R)131
SD- 45-53 (McCain-R)122
MS- 45-53 (McCain-R)119
SC- 43-55 (McCain-R)113
TX- 43-55 (McCain-R)105
AZ- 43-56 (McCain-R)71
KY- 43-56 (McCain-R)61
TN- 42-56 (McCain-R)53
KS- 42-56 (McCain-R)42
AK- 41-57 (McCain-R)36
NE- 40-57 (McCain-R)33
AL- 40-59 (McCain-R)28
UT- 38-60 (McCain-R)19
OK- 37-62 (McCain-R)14
ID- 36-62 (McCain-R)7
WY- 34-65 (McCain-R)3
So, (I don't know if you get to read this far) you have mentioned a few times that you see the model indicating that Obama is starting to make gains among x group, etc. Is this anything quantifiable that you would be able to post and update regularly? Like, the most statistically significant factors and which candidate they are going for by how much? I don't know the best way to format it, but I think it might be an interesting thing to look at.
I live in Missouri and I can tell you that for the past two weeks, I have not seen a McCain ad. I have just started seeing the 'No Obama, NRA' ad--but that was only 2 days ago; and it was countered by the MODNC's print ad about Obama and the 2nd Amend. Tonight after the debate, which I channel surfed all over, I saw at least 6 Obama ads--the POSITIVE ones which reinforce his message on the economy, healthcare and CHANGE.
How do you go from "Polling Average" to "Trend-Adjusted" in the state numbers. Seems to be adding points to Obama and drawing down McCain everywhere I spot-checked. Look particularly odd in WV where the polls show McCain +1.9 but you have Obama 52% to win.
How/when did AR get so close?
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