10.27.2008

The Three Ashleys

In 2004, Ashley Faulkner looked into the camera and said of George W. Bush, "He's the most powerful man in the world, and all he wants to do is make sure I'm safe, that I'm OK."

It was powerful. It was an emotional, affirmative argument to vote for George W. Bush. Ashley's line, and the photo of Bush hugging her during a campaign visit to Ohio, was the Bush-Cheney campaign's emotional closing argument.

The message: "Vote for George Bush, he'll keep you safe, he cares about you personally."




Flash forward four years to the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign, and it's clear that John McCain and Sarah Palin had a different Ashley-centric emotional closing argument in mind.

This Ashley, McCain-Palin campaign worker Ashley Todd, has admitted to a lying scheme designed to stir up racial hatred. The obvious goal -- create an emotional backlash against black people and against Barack Obama to influence the vote. That's the McCain close. The McCain-Palin campaign pushed it. Nobama.

The message: "Be scared of Barack Obama's supporters. Go vote against him."

(It should be noted, this is the kind of thing that goes beyond campaign messaging. This sort of thing leads to race-based physical attacks.)

The contrast from four years ago is striking. Four years ago, the emotional fulcrum of the race swung between Bush v. Not Bush. Bush won, in part because he could make an affirmative, emotional closing argument. This year, Obama v. Nobama is bringing out the worst, most base human instincts from the McCain campaign, and an emotional, Ashley-based closing argument that voters need to fear "that one."

There is a third Ashley, one whose story was also memorably told in Pennsylvania. Obama's Ashley.

At its core, Obama's Ashley story is one both of organizing and of the strength discovered when Americans recognize in each other a common humanity. Not only are these two defining cornerstones of how Barack Obama has conducted his campaign, the Ashley story Obama tells is an argument for his election.

As a palate-cleanser from the disgraced Ashley Todd, the final part of Barack Obama's More Perfect Union speech on race, March 18, 2008, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania:
There is a young, twenty-three year old white woman named Ashley Baia who organized for our campaign in Florence, South Carolina. She had been working to organize a mostly African-American community since the beginning of this campaign, and one day she was at a roundtable discussion where everyone went around telling their story and why they were there.

And Ashley said that when she was nine years old, her mother got cancer. And because she had to miss days of work, she was let go and lost her health care. They had to file for bankruptcy, and that's when Ashley decided that she had to do something to help her mom.

She knew that food was one of their most expensive costs, and so Ashley convinced her mother that what she really liked and really wanted to eat more than anything else was mustard and relish sandwiches. Because that was the cheapest way to eat.

She did this for a year until her mom got better, and she told everyone at the roundtable that the reason she joined our campaign was so that she could help the millions of other children in the country who want and need to help their parents too.

Now Ashley might have made a different choice. Perhaps somebody told her along the way that the source of her mother's problems were blacks who were on welfare and too lazy to work, or Hispanics who were coming into the country illegally. But she didn't. She sought out allies in her fight against injustice.

Anyway, Ashley finishes her story and then goes around the room and asks everyone else why they're supporting the campaign. They all have different stories and reasons. Many bring up a specific issue. And finally they come to this elderly black man who's been sitting there quietly the entire time. And Ashley asks him why he's there. And he does not bring up a specific issue. He does not say health care or the economy. He does not say education or the war. He does not say that he was there because of Barack Obama. He simply says to everyone in the room, "I am here because of Ashley."

"I'm here because of Ashley." By itself, that single moment of recognition between that young white girl and that old black man is not enough. It is not enough to give health care to the sick, or jobs to the jobless, or education to our children.

But it is where we start. It is where our union grows stronger. And as so many generations have come to realize over the course of the two-hundred and twenty one years since a band of patriots signed that document in Philadelphia, that is where the perfection begins.

Three Ashleys. They tell the tale.

229 comments

Lance J said...

first!?

Sean O said...

Great post, Sean. Describes so much that is right and wrong about today's politicking now.

Dave Barnes said...

Yes lance, you were first

Great writing again Sean.
You guys are the best working at the best election website.

Sylvia said...

God Bless Us Every One! And especially That One!

gjdodger said...

I'm speechless. What a bunch of bunk. But a little white lie beats the hell out of an evil, dark one, so go Ashley from South Carolina.

ted said...

Now THAT is a blog post.

Johnny said...

The fact that there is only one week to go is GREAT NEWS FOR AMERICA!!!!!111

Valpey said...

Very well said.



I voted for That One.

Ken said...

These posts really need to be collected into a book! Beautiful!

QueenTiye said...

Thanks so much for that, Sean! :)

QT

Ben said...

Damn.. That is a moving ad. Even now, it's still effective.

ladasky said...

"The contrast from four years ago is striking. Four years ago, the emotional fulcrum of the race swung between Bush v. Not Bush. Bush won, in part because he could make an affirmative, emotional closing argument."


Uh, let's not forget that Katerine Harris has been removed from Florida politics, and that the Ohio Secretary of State's office has switched from GOP to Dem. In 2004, the GOP had its hooks into the electoral machinery in a way that it no longer seems to possess.

Thad Beier said...

Beautifully written, Sean -- when you find the thread like that to tie everything together, it almost writes itself I suppose.

The "because of Ashley" makes me cry every time, from when I first heard it until now.

I can't wait for Wednesday night, to see how Obama speaks to all of us.

malanb5 said...

Bravo. I've been thinking the same thing--the McCain camp just doesn't get it. You need a push and a pull not just a push.

Thad Beier said...

Beautifully written, Sean -- when you find the thread like that to tie everything together, it almost writes itself I suppose.

The "because of Ashley" makes me cry every time, from when I first heard it until now.

I can't wait for Wednesday night, to see how Obama speaks to all of us.

foolscap said...

So which ad is Obama's "Ashley ad"? Of course, he's made heartwarming statements throughout his speeches and his campaign, but perhaps candidates are sometimes best remembered by one or two good ads (possibly only in retrospect by academics making a point).

Not being in a swing state, I haven't seen most of the ads, but have followed what has been posted on the web. And none on either side seem to have been rather heatwarming like this one.

Anyone disagree?

draNgNon said...

I come here for the polls, but Sean, this is the best post to this blog yet.

k said...

Great post Sean, and summed up nicely the tone of the campaigning this year compared to 2004, and showed what is wrong and what is right. I hope this blog post gets linked around the blogosphere and beyond, because as sad and scary the story of Ashley Todd is, there is a more positive and hopeful story in Ashley Baia.

igwespike said...

POW-ER-FUL stuff. Great post.

David said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uETV82MijPk

Republicans trying to steal Colorado?

Matt W said...

Sean,
Thank you for this thoughtful post. It is a wonderful analysis of the three Ashleys and brings up one of the most heartwarming stories that has come out of this election (Ashley #3).
You contribute so much to this site! keep up the excellent work.

Nebulon Blendor said...

I come here for the polls, and I wish this kind of slobbery Democratic-leaning screed would not be posted here. The Republicans now all think you're a lefty pinko acolyte of the Church of Obama.

The impact of this site would be greater if it were respected by both the Republicans and Democrats.

William said...

Makes me proud to say I grew up in Florence, SC.

Thanks for this post Sean. It really shows the difference in the campaigns.

Just a short while more to go before I can breathe a sigh of relief.

Archaeopteryx said...

I've been a Democrat my whole adult life. I supported Hillary in the primaries--until I heard that speech. I've never in my middle-aged southern white-boy life never heard a politician make such a moving, heart-felt, honest speech. Obama is something special, and I'm proud to have supported him, proud to have voted for him, and proud that I'm finally going to have a president of whom I can be proud.

wtwhitehead said...

What I find most distrubing is the continuing trend in America that the people with the most have to give the least to support the system that made them wealthy. Everyone of us is going to have like we never have before to support the country over the next decade to pay for the last eight years. We do not know the meaning of sacrifice anymore, well maybe a few do...

STepper said...

GUILTY

60 here we come!

hilllady said...

long-time lurker and 538 addict here: Sean, this is one of the best posts of the year. Thank you.

Jonathan said...

I think you (and Obama) may have highlighted a method by which I can finally talk to my father-n-law in his own language.

If there is a more ideally Christian story than Ashley's in this campaign, I don't really know what it is. It goes to the basis of charity and love.

Thank you.

Insult Comic Dog said...

Ashley, Ashley, Ashley.

Never mind that. GO PHILLIES!!!

Kellic said...

The thing is Palin and to a lesser extent McCain are totally responsible for this crap. These are the people who have been spreading FUD. If McCain hadn't caved to the NeoCons and started doing a smear campaign and stated on topic maybe we would be seeing as much of this crap as we do.
And frankly the pissed off attitude that we've seen on McCain's mug in the last few dabates. Analists keep saying he doesn't like Obama. I think he has been and IS pissed at his base. People have been screaming for years that the NeoCons are a bunch of fringe radicals. But they have pretty much stayed in line because then have been winning big. But nothing is more dangerous then a wild animal backed into a corner and that is EXACTLY what we are seeing, as is McCain and I think as a traditional moderate Republican, deal with it folks that is what he is, its his handlers that are forcing him into what he's doing now, its pissing him the hell off.

Matt W said...

Nebulon Blender said...
"The impact of this site would be greater if it were respected by both the Republicans and Democrats."

This site IS respected by both Republicans and Democrats. What "impact" are you talking about and what "impact" do you think Nate and Sean are trying to have? If you come for the stats, then just read the stats.

STepper said...

Senator Stevens was found guilty in his corruption trial. While there are many things he can appeal on, and request a new trial on, the word "Guilty" will reverberate in Alaska. Alaska is already embarassed by the wonderful scandal-ridden Sarah Palin, the gift to the United States who keeps on giving.

We need a new poll in Alaska to see if Obama can pull into single digits there.

PorridgeGun said...

Tubes Stevens GUILTY ON 7 COUNTS!!!




Nice.

Matt said...

Wow - Stevens guilty on all 7 counts!

Concern Troll said...

Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9T0FI2axbU

For Palin not to say anything at all after that was said...

joel said...

The TIPP poll has Obama down to a 2.8% lead. the freepers are calling the election for McCain since this is the only accurate poll.
Seriously anyone know what kind of data this is based on. I think it may be even with democrats and republican weighing.
Seems to me they will look pretty silly in a week. I checked and in 2004 their last poll was bush 48.6 and kerry 45.3. Seems like they left a lot of undecided.Anyway they really seem out of line compared to everyone else but they were defending themselves today saying Zogby and rasmussen has the race tighening.
This poll irritates me because I think it gives McCains people false hope.They even said the other day that the difference between democrats and republicans is no more than 2% and all the other pollsters are wrong.

Jeff NYC Dem said...

Blendor - Why don't you just read the numbers and ignore the threads? The numbers are respected by both the right and the left. Too bad you haven't seen the light, but I admire you going down with the ship.

Fred's Shorts said...

Ted Stevens is guilty on all counts, yey!

Eric said...

The Republicans now all think you're a lefty pinko acolyte of the Church of Obama.

The Republicans are then free to ignore all the data, just as they have ignored reality the past decade, at their own electoral peril.

PorridgeGun said...

In Mooseburger's backyard, no less.

joek1972 said...

Ted Stevens GUILTY.

Well, there's one Senate seat in the bank.

IL_Grimacѐ said...

I'm sorry but I just have to say it: that racist bitch! I knew it. I absolutely knew it. And I don't care that she's mentally disturbed. I don't. Screw her and her stupid need for attention. Screw Matt Drudge who tried to use her story as a smear against Obama supporters. And oh it just had to be a black man in her story. Watch out white women everywhere the big scary black man is coming to get you. They should lock her racist ass up for playing the victim as an insult to every woman who has ever been victimized. Seriously, how low are these people going to get before this is over. Telling Jews that Obama will lead to another Holocaust (oh because he pals around with terrorists, he must be an extremist Muslim oh and he must hate and want to kill Jews) and then manufacturing black on white hate crimes. My god I hope ACORN did rig the election, I want to make absolutely sure that this particular republican with this particular running mate never take up space in the White House.

Sorry for that, I needed to get that out of my system. Great post. It was very beautiful. I loved the recalling of the Ashley story from one of my all time favorite speeches. One of the greatest speeches I have ever heard (in my lifetime anyway) on race in this country. And, as much as I dislike the man, Bush did know how to make an effective emotional point. All McCain understands is vile, trumped up nonsense meant to inspire hate and rage within ignorant people and then he gets to sit back and say 'oh no, that's not what I wanted to happen.' I would take Bush any day over McCain.

JRS said...

The good news is that Ted Stevens has been found guilty on all seven counts.

The bad news is the McCain campaign is taking another wild shot a Obama using the ObaMarx theme. They are touting an seven year old audio tape in which BO endorses sharing the wealth as the next legislative step for the civil rights movement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

I can't wait for this election to end!

STepper said...

If Stevens resigns Sarah Palin will be asking people to write in her name!

(How do I know? Rank speculation. But that would be the rational thing to do.)

tony said...

Great article Sean.

If Europeans could vote, Barack would be home and hosed.

Cometh the hour, cometh the man. I feel that America could get the great president she deserves.

Fingers crossed for 4th November.

Anisky said...

Only once has any piece of media ever made me cry.

No, it's not that speech-- but it sure brought me CLOSE to tears. Back when I first heard it, and just now, while reading it. I had to hold them back because I'm at work and crying at my computer would probably be frowned upon. :)

Thanks for the reminder, and the beautiful post.

jt said...

Sean, that was beautiful...and you gave it to me to read for free. Thank you.

Eric said...

Eric said...
The Republicans now all think you're a lefty pinko acolyte of the Church of Obama.

The Republicans are then free to ignore all the data, just as they have ignored reality the past decade, at their own electoral peril.


Eric,

I think that was directed at me (the other Eric). I compared Obama to Jesus in the last thread.

joek1972 said...

Ted Stevens' career has just been flushed down a series of tubes.

And let's see the ReThugs try to act like "Stevens is not one of us." He's the longest-serving Republican senator in US history. Now a convicted felon.

Raymond said...

Even as someone supporting Obama on November 4th, I only visit this site for polling data and informed discussion of political tactics, not for invective against John McCain.

I am sure that there are many other sites that could provide this kind of polemical commentary (if I was inclined to look for them), and the posting of such prosaic, politically motivated attacks debases the value of a site that I otherwise greatly admire.

And you are preaching to the converted anyway. I just want to know what's happening in Nevada.

[NB: Obama's votes on FISA and his flip on public financing evicerates any argument that he is a different type of politician. He is just better than "the other one" in this particular race. If you want my two cents.]

Adam said...

"If Stevens resigns Sarah Palin will be asking people to write in her name!"

Stevens knew he would be found guilty, and chose not to resign while there was a chance at replacing his name on the ballot. He's an extremely stubborn old man.

Also, Begich has been ahead in every poll since the indictment, and Palin's popularity up there is rapidly falling. Such an effort would be utterly laughable.

Gerbie said...

On Ashley Todd: Confirmed: a paid CRNC organizer

Johnkel24 said...

The common decency of the Obama campaign as represented by the Ashley Baia story is the moral reason why we will win. Obama's candidacy speaks to the better angels of our character. His call for Americans to unite and have hope is painted as foolish and hollow by the Republicans, because they don't understand that and their own cynicism has blinded them to its value. I guess they forgot the important ingredient for a successful campaign as described by the victor of the 1992 election. Obama has "the vision thing."

"The vision thing" is what motivates and inspires voters and not just sway them. America is built on the principle of always striving to better ourselves and our society so that we someday become that "shining city on a hill."

Obama offers inspiration, which makes people feel like they're moving forward on the American dream. While fear and division makes us fear like we're on the defense and not advancing. Americans like to move forward.

Chris M. said...

The guilty verdict for Stevens should preempt the next two news cycles. No way for McCain to get his message out during that time. And then the Obama 30-minute special will be the talk of the town for another day. And then it's almost weekend, and no one will pay attention to anything McCain says. And then it's Christmas or rather election day...

Charles Crook said...

Stevens doesn't have to resign; if he wins, the Senate would have to vote for his explusion.

Sen Stevens (R-AK) Guilty (x7)
Rep Young (R-AK) Under investigation
Gov Palin (R-AK) Under investigation

Daniel said...

Anchorage Daily New endorses Obama... (it's not too late for Biden to have a rally on the road-to-the-bridge-to-nowhere!!
Aussies4Obama

Mason said...

Nebulon Blender said...
"The impact of this site would be greater if it were respected by both the Republicans and Democrats."

This site IS respected by both Republicans and Democrats. What "impact" are you talking about and what "impact" do you think Nate and Sean are trying to have? If you come for the stats, then just read the stats.


He probaby complains about all the 8008ies on pay-per-view, as well.

SHERWICK said...

every politician from Alaska is corrupt!!!

Can anyone in the USA name another Alaska politician?

Er let me see...

:/

LAT said...

fantastic post Sean. I have to say I had come to loath Bush by 2004 but that is one powerful ad. Nothing like that this cycle from the Republicans just bluster, fear and ignorance. they are running on dystopia.

SP said...

Well, there's one Senate seat in the bank.

Never underestimate the people of Alaska. Considering the person they elected governor and her high (okay maybe formerly high is better) approval numbers, it is entirely within the realm of possibility that they'll re-elect Mr. Stevens.

Matt W said...

jrs,
why not link to the full audio rather than the biased YouTube?

http://apps.wbez.org/blog/?p=639

BTW, This NPR interview makes me LOVE Obama even more! Smart, Compasionate, Level-headed.

Kellic said...

Oh and I'm going to be honest. I'm scared to death that some w9ingnut is going to try and take out Obama in the next week and months to come. The hate this campaign has generated is probably enough to make someone out there think that he's that dangerous to this country.

markymark said...

If Palin did go the write in method, isn't that pretty much admitting defeat in the presidential? I doubt McCain would let her do that. Better I would think to let the election run out and if Stevens wins (I know I know) appoint herself to replace him and if not target Begish in 6 years. (Coincidentally when her gubernatorial run is over if she gets reelected.)

tony said...

@Eric

You compared Obama to Jesus. The fundamentalist nutters see him as the anti-christ. I kid you not. Watch this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/uselectionroadtrip/2008/oct/27/barack-obama-muslim-antichrist

kemlab101 said...

Does that mean Stevens can't vote for himself because he's a convicted felon?

Bradley Effect said...

Raymond said...

Even as someone supporting Obama on November 4th, I only visit this site for polling data and informed discussion of political tactics, not for invective against John McCain.

I am sure that there are many other sites that could provide this kind of polemical commentary (if I was inclined to look for them), and the posting of such prosaic, politically motivated attacks debases the value of a site that I otherwise greatly admire.

And you are preaching to the converted anyway. I just want to know what's happening in Nevada.

[NB: Obama's votes on FISA and his flip on public financing evicerates any argument that he is a different type of politician. He is just better than "the other one" in this particular race. If you want my two cents.]

October 27, 2008 3:15 PM

^
Great post Raymond! Eventhough we are likely polar opposites on the political spectrum, you realize the massive circle jerking that is going on--on this site. Please agree, less you be duly noted as a troll! They'll probably flame you for providing a moderating voice to this place!

livemild said...

thanks. great story

a greek playwright once said "we live is we can not as we wish". i think that's true but we could all live as better people and that doesnt mean you have to do something as large as finding a cure for cancer. something "small" works too.

Adam said...

Raymond,

"Obama's votes on FISA and his flip on public financing evicerates any argument that he is a different type of politician."

I would think, as an Obama supporter, you'd do a bit more research than that. What he actually said was that if McCain committed to joining Obama in limiting spending by the DNC/RNC and 527s, he would be glad to do public financing. When the camps met it was clear there was nothing to discuss, as McCain's advisors felt they had no reason to give up a presumably large RNC/527 funding edge. Hence, no public financing agreement. There was absolutely no flip there.

As for FISA, he voted for cloture on the amendments to strip immunity. That's good enough for me. He made a long post defending the overall yes vote to the netroots shortly after. If you disagree with that vote, as I do, that's fine, but the fact that he lays out a strong case for his decision and a desire for open communication on the issues should demonstrate his difference from typical politicians.

Also, feel free to skip the non-polling threads if you don't wish to read them. It's not a particularly partisan observation to note that Bush and Obama have been running more positive campaigns than have McCain.

Roderick said...

bradley effect is so obviously mule rider again.

Eric said...

tony said...
@Eric

You compared Obama to Jesus. The fundamentalist nutters see him as the anti-christ. I kid you not. Watch this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/uselectionroadtrip/2008/oct/27/barack-obama-muslim-antichrist

FYI

Eric said...
Bradley Effect said...

eric--I'm sorry, but you did your argument absolutely, positively, no favors by comparing Obama to JESUS! LOL!

If you believe, as I do, that Jesus was not God's son, but a great man with great charisma and understanding of the world as it was and the world as it should be and had the ability to inspire people to want to make that world the way it should be , well the comparison is solid. I believe Obama is similar to Jesus, sorry to disappoint you.

markymark said...

Sean's post is fantastic, goes right to why McCain is so far behind. Its not Palin, it is tied to the economy [but not directly the actual economy] it is simply that he has never really gone into why people should vote for him to be President. We know why McCain thinks we shouldn't vote for Obama, but for such an important election, we just haven't heard exactly what he would do as President.

Brad said...

Sean-

That is better messaging than any campaign message so far. Get this on the Huffington Post posthaste!

A Time for Choosing said...

This article is a non-sequitur. It just doesn't follow and, frankly, it's not something Nate would ever write. John McCain/Sarah Palin obviously didn't have anything to do with the Ashley in Pittsburgh making up the story. From that assertion/insinuation on, it just kind of falls apart...

PorridgeGun said...

This isn't just great news for Mark Begich because he's NOW Senator-elect Mark Begich. This is great news because Begich was pretty much on own against Tubes Stevens decades-long support and the Mooseburger-induced spike in Republican voters in Alaska.

CameronsCrusaders said...

Breaking-ATF says it broke up skinhead plot to kill Sen. Obama in Tenn., Arkansas

SHERWICK said...

we HAVE heard what mccain will do he will carry on the Bush path!

Heather Nordquist said...

ATF just busted up an assassination attempt against Obama.

LAT said...

dow dropped 200 today. this week we will close below 8000. That is what most people think the bottom is. But who know it might be 7000. either way this thing is not getting better any time soon. the ted spread went up again no?

SHERWICK said...

cameron are you serious?!

tony said...

@ Livemild

...and it was Euripides who said that man must suffer into truth.

We've had thirty years of extreme right-wing ideology in practice, and now the truth is staring us in the face.

Let's hope that Obama really gets a chance to turn things around.

kemlab101 said...

Thanks ATF! You guys rule! Stop the crazies!

CameronsCrusaders said...

Yes Sherwick wouldn't fuck around with that> Breaking on MSNBC.com with no further link or info yet

PA John said...

@roderick

The Original Mule Rider (Blogger ID:1801777...) was on earlier and chased the sock puppet Mule Rider away.

All of a suddenn on the next post we get "Bradley Effect"... so yeah, Bradley Effect is the Mule Rider sock puppet.

Mason said...

Roderick said...
bradley effect is so obviously mule rider again.


The real one or the faker?
He's not the real one because he's too dumb and he's not foul enough in his invective.

Geoff said...

Sean,

Really, really fantastic story-telling. I hope you write a book about your travels & encounters over this election season, because you have interesting things to say, & you certainly know how to elocute them. Writers like you deserve the money you would make on the strength of your stories.

Heather Nordquist said...

AP story about assassination plot

http://www.whec.com/article/stories/S634769.shtml?cat=566

DJ Dickmutt said...

Well put. A very powerful contrast, and an important one to make!

Jeff NYC Dem said...

Bradley Effect, Raymond, blendor if you like the numbers come for the numbers. Come after 7pm, click on "Today's polls" read them, and be on your way. If you want to, engage us in an intelligent manner that can be logically responded to. Otherwise, if your looking for polls and no partisan filter, go to pollster or Rasmussen. I hardtly think you go to realclear politics and post endlessly about how you like the polls but bemoan it's right-leaning bias.

Gerbie said...

markymark said...
Sean's post is fantastic, goes right to why McCain is so far behind. Its not Palin, it is tied to the economy [but not directly the actual economy] it is simply that he has never really gone into why people should vote for him to be President. We know why McCain thinks we shouldn't vote for Obama, but for such an important election, we just haven't heard exactly what he would do as President.

Accurate observation IMO. And I;m sure McCain would be able to provide a list of say two dozen of people we should vote for and also be able to explain why. His tragedy is he isn't on his own list. The only positive reason he can come up with is POW POW POW.

blue november said...

I had read the Ashley from SC story a few months ago, I had almost forgotten the very effective Ashley from 2004, and of course I was aware of the "backwards B" Ashley from this fall.

However, until this post I had not made the connection between the three of them.

Well-done!

markymark said...

sherwick,

My point is that he hasn't explained what it is he wants to do, and why thats so vital now for America. He went after Obama straight away, and has never come up with a really compelling vision of why it has to be him. (which is the point of the compelling personal narrative by the way)

Brad said...

A time for choosing-

You are wrong. The McCain campaign pushed their Ashley to new orgs like Drudge immediately on hearing of the "B" carved in a volunteer's face.

Sean Quinn wrote this, not Nate!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do people even read the authorship?

Another Mike said...

Maybe your best post ever on this blog Sean. Nicely done!

OTF said...

Temple Univ PA Poll:
Obama 51
McCain 40

Washington Poll:
Obama 55
McCain 34

David said...

"This article is a non-sequitur. It just doesn't follow and, frankly, it's not something Nate would ever write. John McCain/Sarah Palin obviously didn't have anything to do with the Ashley in Pittsburgh making up the story. From that assertion/insinuation on, it just kind of falls apart..."

You don't think the hatred and racial division that they have been spewing didn't directly lead to this incident?

It is likely no one explicitly told her to do this, but McCain and Palin have been riling up the nutbag element.

Something like this was bound to happen, we will be very lucky if this is the worst thing that comes of the hate-mongering.

Charles Crook said...

How's this scenario sound:

Stevens withdraws from his campaign, and endorses Palin, who runs a write-in campaign for his seat as Senator.

tkk13above said...

I say innocent until proven guilty, so I'm going to assume that Ashley Todd worked alone, and no McCain campaign higher-up told her to make up this attack. The TPM article didn't present a strong enough case otherwise (though it was compelling). That being said, the McCain campaign definitely milked the coverage until she came clean.

PA John said...

The ATF says it has broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree.

In court records unsealed Monday, agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target an unnamed by predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads.


Wow.

justin32099 said...

"John McCain/Sarah Palin obviously didn't have anything to do with the Ashley in Pittsburgh making up the story. From that assertion/insinuation on"

That wasn't asserted or insinuated in the article. Sean said she was a McCain/Palin campaign worker (which she is), and that campaign representatives were pushing the story. I suppose there is a bit of doubt around the last point, but the fact that two different TV stations reported the same story is fishy.

Again, no one is accusing the McCain/Palin campaign of being behind this whole thing, but it doesn't seem that they were loath to benefit from it when they thought it was true.

Jeff NYC Dem said...

Porridgegun, if you're still on this headline "ATF says it disrupted skinhead plot in Tenn., Ark. to assassinate Obama"

May have been behind your perception of Obama "phoning it in" If you had that on your mind, you might be a little distant and not-connected too.

jnorthrop said...

@ Charles Crook said...

How's this scenario sound:

Stevens withdraws from his campaign, and endorses Palin, who runs a write-in campaign for his seat as Senator.

... proceeds to lose badly and is forever banished from politics.

Sounds good to me!

ogre said...

Heavy news day... plot aggainst Obama, and Stevens is guilty on 7 counts.

So we can start counting Begich as the effective senator-elect. 99+% probable, I'd guess.

Paul Pomeroy said...

This is, as usual, very well written, Sean. Thank you.

I would like to point out a factual error, though. Ashley Todd has, to date, not admitted to "a lying scheme designed to stir up racial hatred." She has admitted only to lying -- why she lied is not known.

Given her history it is very likely that she had no grand scheme in mind. It is more likely that her motivations were self-centered and that she was attempting to garner some attention and sympathy from people in her personal circle of acquaintances.

The real tragedy in her story is not of her doing. It's in what the CRNC and the media did with her story. It seems to me incorrect and therefore unkind to accuse her of trying to stir up racial hatred.

Matt said...

University of Washington poll (WA)...

O: 55
M: 34

Gregoire leads Rossi in the gov. race.

Washington

Gerbie said...

Brad said...
A time for choosing-

You are wrong. The McCain campaign pushed their Ashley to new orgs like Drudge immediately on hearing of the "B" carved in a volunteer's face.

Yes, poor girl, oh no I forgot, she was paid for it!

Confirmed: Ashley Todd a paid CRNC organizer
by dworth

Cugel said...

Not only are the Republicans resigned to losing the Presidential election, now they are trying to woo Joe Lieberman to prevent Democrats from reaching 60 votes in the Senate:

Ensign: McCain makes Senate races more difficult
By Klaus Marre
Posted: 10/27/08 03:47 PM [ET]
Nevada Sen. John Ensign, the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, on Monday said John McCain’s presidential run is making Senate races “more difficult” for the GOP.

Ensign said there is a “fair possibility” that Democrats could gain 60 seats in the Senate.

“There's no question the top of the ticket is affecting our Senate races and it’s making it a lot more difficult,” Ensign said on MSNBC. “It’s a fairly toxic atmosphere out there with the financial crisis for Republicans.”

However, Ensign noted that Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman (Conn.) could be a wild card in the Senate power play.

“We welcome Joe. I think Joe’s a terrific guy with a lot of integrity and does what he believes,” Ensign stated.

“But, you know, it'll be interesting to see how the Democrats handle Joe Lieberman after what he's done in this presidential race. But as far as Republicans are concerned, we welcome him with open arms.”

Lieberman is a staunch supporter of Republican presidential nominee Sen. McCain (Ariz.)."


Joe isn't going anywhere. Harry Reid has stated "why would I throw away a reliable vote?" He will face some pressure from angry Dems who want revenge on Lieberman, but nothing will come of it.

Lieberman certainly doesn't want to join the minority. There's no influence for him there, and while he's a giant TOOL on national security issues, and a traitor to the Democratic party, he's a reliable vote on almost everything, except Iraq and foreign policy issues.

I'd be amazed if he doesn't stay put!

PorridgeGun said...

BREAKING!!!


AP: U.S. Government Says It Has Disrupted A Plot To Assasinate Barack Obama




WTF?!?!? The Government aren't behind it?



What's the bet this is a terror alerts-esque attempt to distract from Tubes Stevens being found GUILTY.

Gerbie said...

Brad said...
A time for choosing-

You are wrong. The McCain campaign pushed their Ashley to new orgs like Drudge immediately on hearing of the "B" carved in a volunteer's face.

Yes, poor girl, oh no I forgot, she was paid for it!

Confirmed: Ashley Todd a paid CRNC organizer

SP said...

markymark said: "it is simply that he has never really gone into why people should vote for him to be President"

I was watching a little bit of his interview with Blitzer over the weekend, and found it just fascinating that just about ever question was met with 'I know how to do that' with no more specifics. Just about every answer he gave required a follow up of 'How?'
Having been in politics for as long as he has, doesn't John McCain understand that people won't simply take him at his word that he knows stuff when he cannot demonstrate that he actually does?

Charles Crook said...

"
... proceeds to lose badly and is forever banished from politics.

Sounds good to me!"

But if she loses the Senate race, she's still Governor.

k said...

Ok, as a lurker/reader of the posts and threads here, I am tired of these comments of "stop being so pro-obama/anti mccain, I only come here for the poll analysis". Well you know what? TOUGH!


Yes this is a poll analysis site, and Nate goes into clear detail, what the polls are, how accurate they are, and how the yare fed into his predicition model, how it works, and what the results mean. He has been clear and fair in that regard. But, this is THEIR site, not YOURS.


Nate and Sean(and Brett) have time and time again demonstrated that they are unapologetically Obama supporters. It does not interfere with the analysis of the polls. If you don't like their commentary and essays, don't read them! If you feel it hinders your experience of this site, go to pollster.com or realclearpolitics.com! They don't need to hide their support of the candidate just to make you feel comfortable. They are not concerned with being perceived as partisan hacks!

As can be seen by the length of the comment threads and how often this site has been cited in the media, they are not lacking in readership.

Bradley Effect said...

pa pissoir--exactly who is this mule of which you, mason, and roddy speak?

Heather Nordquist said...

Officials with the McCain campaign did propagate the story

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_aide_gave_reporters_inc.php

jnorthrop said...

@Charles Crook --

Alaska can have her. Just keep her out of the national spotlight.

dkan71 said...

Wow. Thanks again Sean. I think I might love you. Seriously though...I'm moved to tears by the decency and goodness of ordinary people and by Barack Obama's extraordinary ability to highlight the difference that one person can make. I'm so inspired and can't wait for the 4th. I'm sure I'll be crying then too

David said...

Given her history it is very likely that she had no grand scheme in mind. It is more likely that her motivations were self-centered and that she was attempting to garner some attention and sympathy from people in her personal circle of acquaintances.

Carving the 'B' makes it obviously politically motivated.

If it was a sympathy ploy she would have just gave herself a black eye.

SP said...

Sigh.

There was a really good discussion on race and the implications of the election of Obama as the president on both sides of the aisle, and one of the panelists was talking about how little chatter there has been in the racist whacko-sphere about doing him bodily harm. Apparently, there was developing consensus that a disastrous Obama presidency that realizes their fears will be good for their organizations, long-term.

Seretse said...

PA John said...
The ATF says it has broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree.


Everyone carries on as though this is just some small nugget. Pa John, wow is right. This is completely outrageous and absolutely terrifying.

Heather Nordquist said...

Sean~ This post was beautiful, and I will buy the book, if you choose to publish it.

PorridgeGun said...

Tennessee Neo-Nazi skinheads shootings and decapitations, apparently.



Where's Mooseburger campaigning today? Sounds like a typical McCain rally.

jnorthrop said...

@seretse - "Everyone carries on as though this is just some small nugget. Pa John, wow is right. This is completely outrageous and absolutely terrifying."

I'm waiting to find out when it was broken up. It could be months old...

PA John said...

What's the bet this is a terror alerts-esque attempt to distract from Tubes Stevens being found GUILTY.

Porridge - you have not posted anything grounded in reality today.

If this is true it's sobering news considering the meme being pushed by McCain/Palin about Barack Obama being "different" than the rest of us. Get a clue.

Just John said...

Arrogantly, let me present to you the media narrative for the next 8 days:

Mon-Tue-Wed: Stevens guilty.
Mon-Tue: Assassination plot foiled
Wed-Thu: BHO prime time extravangaza
Fri: whoa, it's Halloween! Plus a mini-scandal for Palin thrown in for fun
Sat: Another big-time endorsement for BHO
Sun: NFL
Monday: Who cares?
Tuesday: Obama elected.

Sedi said...

I remember when Sean first started posting and about half of the commentators thought that he was tainting the site, which should (in their mind) be purely about polling and numbers. Now, although a couple such folks are still around, they are outnumbered by people who argue that Sean's posts are the among the best posted here. With a moving, marvelously constructed piece like this one, it's easy to see why. Weaving together the 3 Ashleys so skillfully reminded me of the best Seinfeld episodes...except that your post was important and meaningful.

Bravo, Sean! And thanks for this gem!

dkan71 said...

That Bush ad is some good sh!it. I'm almost ready to vote for that guy. Hell, even knowing what I know today, my immediate response was "y'know W's really a good guy at heart, he just had crappy policies and ideas that ruined the country, but he's a decent man." That is some powerful advertising when I'm feeling nostalgic about W!

bobnsj said...

More on the AP story about ATF:

Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of the Nashville field office for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the two men planned to shoot 88 black people and decapitate another 14. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

The men also sought to go on a national killing spree, with Obama as its final target, Cavanaugh told The Associated Press.

"They said that would be their last, final act — that they would attempt to kill Sen. Obama," Cavanaugh said. "They didn't believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying."

Heather Nordquist said...

@pajohn@seretse

I posted it just after cameron. This is a huge deal. I don't pray, but if I did, I would send a little prayer out to the entire Obama family. OK, sending good thoughts out instead.

Darío said...

Remember that people vote, not polls.

Seretse said...

pa john said...
If this is true it's sobering news considering the meme being pushed by McCain/Palin about Barack Obama being "different" than the rest of us. Get a clue.


Much more overt than "different" how about "Terrorist!" on mailers with his face on it.

PorridgeGun said...

The timing of this is a bit suspect. What's more damaging to the GOP? One of their own, from ALASKA, being found guilty on all counts for corruption? Or being associated with Neo-Nazi skinheads?

Troy said...

The sad part is that the 102 people who are not Obama would have the better chance of dying in this situation. Those crazies would have a hard time getting close to BHO, but those high school students would be easy targets.

jnorthrop said...

PorridgeGun said...

The timing of this is a bit suspect. What's more damaging to the GOP? One of their own, from ALASKA, being found guilty on all counts for corruption? Or being associated with Neo-Nazi skinheads?

How about both... The news can cover more than one story at a time.

Nebulon Blendor said...

Matt W, Mason, Jeff NYC Dem: I'm not some dittohead; I voted for Obama. But I have some sense, which you are not showing. Everyone has a preference, but this site slanting hard to Obama with stories like this one will get the site immediately tossed in the dustbin, mentally, by the right. Any amount of meticulous analysis will be dismissed by Republicans, because it's now a lefty website.

It's really too bad - imagine if fivethirtyeight.com made an effort to appear nonpartisan - it'd be respected (and cited, and read) by everybody.

Heather Nordquist said...

Leave it to the right-wing nuts to dream up some grand scheme to fake an assassination attempt for good press. porridgegun, you are completely sick.

Joey said...

Has anybody posted this yet today? Sorry I can't keep up with EVERYTHING.

The L.A. Times Suppresses Obama’s Khalidi Bash Tape

Charles Crook said...

The ATF court records were just unsealed, so the investigation most likely had been underway for some time.

Gwen said...

That was awesome!

Andrew said...

Darío said...

Remember that people vote, not polls.


link?

markymark said...

I am not terribly moved by the Obama assasination plot foiled storyline. I am a bit surprised that we haven't heard more of this. I'd be amazed if this was the only plot against Obama (I would imagine there may well have been people plotting against McCain as well!) I am of coure glad that none of these have ever come to anything mind.

Of course the racist element of the story makes this a bigger deal, just goes to show just how scared a few people are right now of Obama's skin.

Heather Nordquist said...

@nebulonblender
If you don't like the commentary, go somewhere else. They attempted to cover the McCain campaign efforts in On the Road, but the buttheads at McCain offices kicked them out.

And, they are highly respected and cited and read by many. I'm sure they are not seeking an endorsement from you.

Another Mike said...

Damn.. That is a moving ad. Even now, it's still effective.

My thoughts exactly. A total appeal to emotion, but damned effective. McCain hasn't had anything close to it.

Andrew said...

Any amount of meticulous analysis will be dismissed by Republicans, because it's now a lefty website.

And that's a bad thing, because......?

Gerbie said...

Joey said...
Has anybody posted this yet today? Sorry I can't keep up with EVERYTHING.

The L.A. Times Suppresses Obama’s Khalidi Bash Tape


Funny!

PA John said...

More on the story here.

On the surface it does not seem like an intricate and sophisticated plot mind you, but Timothy McVeigh wasn't all that sophisticated, and neither was Columbine. The plot to kill Obama would seem to have been an ultimate goal - a sort of fantasy, but targeting a high school certainly seems within the realm of possibility. They were arrested Friday. It does not seem months old. It's disturbing. Period.

Bradley Effect said...

Let me preface my statements by saying that I am severely saddened by the actions of those RACIST skinhead members! Regardless of his policies I don't wish death upon anyone! I am extremely releived that they caught these idiots. I know many of you are undoubtedly shocked!


@ Nebulon Blendor-You are 1000% correct! Unfortunately, you will probably be flamed like I will, post this statement!

Joey said...

I just saw this ad on CNN. I've never seen it before.

Seriously? The Chicken Button??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geaYuQq5Gag

Aunt Karen said...

@jnorthrop

according to msnbc, Friday. Sorry, keyboard is sticking.

MotherHoose said...

A nail for RNC

LINK to Pittsburgh News


Ashley Todd is still in custody.

We are very upset!

PorridgeGun said...

Actually, PA John, one the things you and others disagreed with me on was how flat and uninspired Obama's speech was today. I said he looked like he had heard troubling news prior to delivering his speech. What's are the odds he was informed of this plot beforehand, like before he delivered his strangely subdued speech?



BTW, who shat in your cereal?

SHERWICK said...

Can things get any worse for the McCain campaign?

Rebecca said...

So how many crazy would-be assassins have been arrested so far? :(

Bradley Effect said...

Eating your own:

Heather Nordquist said...

@nebulonblender
If you don't like the commentary, go somewhere else. They attempted to cover the McCain campaign efforts in On the Road, but the buttheads at McCain offices kicked them out.

And, they are highly respected and cited and read by many. I'm sure they are not seeking an endorsement from you.

^
The guy even said HE VOTED for Obama, and he still gets flamed! WOW!

jnorthrop said...

@aunt karen --

thanks. disturbing. I was hoping this was some months old story just coming out now.

Heather Nordquist said...

@joey

LMAO on the chicken button ad. What won't they try?

Patricia said...

ladasky said...

"The contrast from four years ago is striking. Four years ago, the emotional fulcrum of the race swung between Bush v. Not Bush. Bush won, in part because he could make an affirmative, emotional closing argument."


Uh, let's not forget that Katerine Harris has been removed from Florida politics, and that the Ohio Secretary of State's office has switched from GOP to Dem. In 2004, the GOP had its hooks into the electoral machinery in a way that it no longer seems to possess.

...... ...... ...... ....

And so it is the shame of anyone, Democrat or Republican, who devotes a second of their life's journey to disenfranchising people of their vote. Ohioans know all too well how carefully we have to guard the polls and politics surrounding voting --even up to midnight before Nov 4, when we'll be running around the neighborhoods that are home to hundreds of Ashley's (Obama's), taking down doorhangers that tell people the wrong date and place for voting. A lot has changed in Ohio, but much remains the same. Get out and volunteer NOW!!! Every community needs you to walk, call, and drive for Ashley.

Joey said...

Joey said...
Has anybody posted this yet today? Sorry I can't keep up with EVERYTHING.
The L.A. Times Suppresses Obama’s Khalidi Bash Tape


Funny!


I can't tell if you really think it's funny or if it was already posted/discussed? I looked back and couldn't find anything.

Jeff NYC Dem said...

Nebulor - Do you levy the same cirtique at Real Clear Politics because 80% of their posted articles speak to a Republican viewpoint? No. That site is respected by democrats and Republicans despite it's partisan blather. Your'e debunked, even if you are voting for Obama!

Republicans have spent decades painting us as out of the mainstream, and americans are finally finding that liberals/progressives aren't. This site is a celebration of a return to progressive politics. So what if they don't give equal time to all sides, if one person is arguing the sun is a star and the other argues it's a fish, we do not give equal time to the fish argument. Republicanism in its current iteration has now been debunked on all fronts, social and economic.

livemild said...

anyone who wants straight poll numbers there are other sites that give straight numbers
-GO THERE AND GO NOW!

i think this is the best political site on the web and one of the reasons is the great storytelling and great photography, not JUST numbers.

oct said...

That video is disturbing and brings chills down my spine as I remember the 2004 election.

We were all put at risk by this man Bush.

He has ruined our Nation and none of us are safer. How safe do American's feel when a hurricane approaches the gulf coast? Or how safe to fixed income retirees feel about their 401(k)'s?

The Republicans are liars and have fooled America. I hope we are not fooled again.

NoVa Commie said...

Running for President/VP is dangerous. Being President even more so. All candidates - and winners - are at risk, which is why they have SS protection.

There are many institutions I do not have a lot of respect for, but the Secret Service is the exception. They will do their job.

Put out a good thought for all of the candidates (yes, even the awful Palin). Then trust in the SS.

SHERWICK said...

lol gerbie, yeah it's funny lol

btw, amazing how mccain's campaign is imploding before our very eyes !!!!

Jeff NYC Dem said...

Bradley -- we already told you, we flame idocy, not ideology.

PorridgeGun said...

At least now Obama will double down on his security from now until the inauguration.

Eric said...

this site slanting hard to Obama with stories like this one will get the site immediately tossed in the dustbin, mentally, by the right.

Oh dear! We sure wouldn't want to do or say anything that would piss off the Right!

Get a grip, jeez. If the right's sensibilities are so delicate that they can't handle objective data reported by two Obama supporters, then they are even deeper trouble than they realize. And no, I don't feel the slightest bit of sympathy for them. Neither should you.

What you are defending is willful and arrogant ignorance. On that count, you stand alone.

Another Mike said...

Even as someone supporting Obama on November 4th, I only visit this site for polling data and informed discussion of political tactics, not for invective against John McCain.

If you don't like it, don't read it. Lots of people who read here enjoy the commentary as well as the polls. So, if this were a Democracy, then I suspect you'd be in the minority. But, it's not a Democracy, it's Nate's site, and he can do whatever he wants to with it. Which gets me back to my original point.

Gerbie said...

Joey said...
Joey said...
Has anybody posted this yet today? Sorry I can't keep up with EVERYTHING.
The L.A. Times Suppresses Obama’s Khalidi Bash Tape


Funny!

I can't tell if you really think it's funny or if it was already posted/discussed? I looked back and couldn't find anything.

If such a tape exists, It would have been used by LA-times for commercial purposes, or, in case they don't want to do that for political reasons, it would have been leaked by some LA-times employee for money or to sink Obama.

There's no way this is true, unless we'll see the tape within two days from now.

So for now I'm asuming this is a smear or possibly a sick joke. Take the "funny" as a cynical comment.

OTF said...

SUSA Oregon:
Obama 57
McCain 38

Mason said...

Matt W, Mason, Jeff NYC Dem: I'm not some dittohead; I voted for Obama. But I have some sense, which you are not showing. Everyone has a preference, but this site slanting hard to Obama with stories like this one will get the site immediately tossed in the dustbin, mentally, by the right. Any amount of meticulous analysis will be dismissed by Republicans, because it's now a lefty website.

It's really too bad - imagine if fivethirtyeight.com made an effort to appear nonpartisan - it'd be respected (and cited, and read) by everybody.


Imagine that Nate, Sean, and Brett don't give a shit what you think, what I think, or what the righty-blogosphere thinks. Oh wait! I don't have to imagine that - they don't! They do their thing on their site. They say they're for Obama and it shows in their commentary. The numbers speak for themselves, and are sited as such. Start your own site. I think the domain www.538whiner.com is still available.

Heather Nordquist said...

btw, amazing how mccain's campaign is imploding before our very eyes !!!!

Well, at least he's still got the skinhead vote.

Mason said...

The guy even said HE VOTED for Obama, and he still gets flamed! WOW!

Clearly you're new around here. People get torn up for stupid all the time no matter their politics.

Mason said...

Running for President/VP is dangerous. Being President even more so. All candidates - and winners - are at risk, which is why they have SS protection.

You might want to consider using another abbr'v'n for "Secret Service". :-P

InkStain said...

"People get torn up for stupid all the time no matter their politics."

Stupidity, right-wingedness, center-edness, pretty much anything that isn't lock-step with the Obama campaign.

We're equal opportunity in our groupthink haterade.

NoVa Commie said...

Mason,

yikes! :)

my post lacked - spinesse

VimaxReview.com said...

McCain/Palin did have something to do with Ashley Todd. They immediately began to push her "story" for political advantage as soon as they heard about it. Because of that, they deserve all of the blowback they get (and more.)

Bradley Effect said...

InkStain said...

"People get torn up for stupid all the time no matter their politics."

Stupidity, right-wingedness, center-edness, pretty much anything that isn't lock-step with the Obama campaign.

We're equal opportunity in our groupthink haterade.

October 27, 2008 4:12 PM

^
Happy you know it

Heather Nordquist said...

LOL at the story of LA Times hiding a tape. Here are October's postings for Mr. McCarthy (appropriate name, huh?)

The L.A. Times Suppresses Obama’s Khalidi Bash Tape - 10/27
Another Communist in Obama’s Orb - 10/22
American Gun Owner = Trained Jihadist - 10/21
ACORN’s White Horse - 10/20
Obama’s Assault on Our Unum - 10/20
Why Won’t Obama Talk About Columbia? - 10/07
Do As I Say, Not As I Do - 10/02
Obama’s Assault on the First Amendment - 10/01

The 10/7 Columbia story is also about Khalidi. It didn't play then, so I suspect he is trying out the new angle.

David said...

I love the "More Perfect Union" speech.

That was the moment I went from believing Obama could be a good Democratic president to knowing he'll be a great American president.

StealthBadger said...

One of my favorite t-shirts ever:

"No, white lady, I don't want your purse."

Somehow the spirit seems to apply.

Andrew Loh said...

Thanks! This was a beautiful, poetic post.

Gamecoug said...

Hell of a post Sean. That speech moved me to tears when he gave it, and reading the excerpt brings them right back, and gives me goosebumps.

I voted for that one too.

Seretse said...

inkstain do you think this 2001 interview is politically damaging?

Mason said...

Bradley Effect said...
InkStain said...

"People get torn up for stupid all the time no matter their politics."

Stupidity, right-wingedness, center-edness, pretty much anything that isn't lock-step with the Obama campaign.

We're equal opportunity in our groupthink haterade.

October 27, 2008 4:12 PM

^
Happy you know it


String MouthStatus="AGAPE"

Aunt Karen said...

About the dissenting opinions being shouted down here. I've felt that way at times, too.

But, I'll just ask you a few questions. What's John McCain going to do for me? I mean, about these wars that are costing me and my friends $10 billion a month - how is he going to handle that?

What's John McCain going to do for my economic situation? Be specific. This is a fellow who voted for jobs to be shipped overseas, and I just don't imagine those are coming back. Maybe they are, but how?

The problem(s) you see here in postings have not so much to do with dissenting opinions as with two other things - people are very inspired and eager to get behind Obama, and people are tired of the old talking points that aren't backed up by substance.

If you have some substance, bring it on (intelligently), and it'll be met with substance.

MotherHoose said...

At first no one here in Piisburgh wanted to believe Ashley Todd was a plant.

But thinking of all the stupid things the GOP has done...gives pause!

Ashley Todd worked for the College RNC...her salary and expenses came from the RNC via the CRNC...she was not a volunteer.

Murtha called Western PA racist ...Ashley is assigned to the phone banks in Western PA...
Why a Texas accent in a Yankee state?...Why not Colorado? New Mexico?

Ashley while working on the Ron Paul campaign (through the CRNC) was asked to leave because of similar stunts. So why wasn't she fired by the CRNC?

IMO she was held in reserve for use in the field...and they planted her in Pittsburgh.

I not saying they wrote her script... they just encouraged her to do something.

Having worked in boiler-room phone-banks...the pump for results can get nasty.. (Hit the racist angle!)

The fact that her script changed..."robbed"..."beaten"
and when that didn't work...
up the ante to "unconscious" ... "sexually molested."

troubled young woman...
nah...trouble-making woman

Joey said...

Know what I wanna know?

Who is Ashley Faulkner voting for this year?

Bradley Effect said...

Aunt Karen--Go here:

http://www.johnmccain.com/

The answers you are searching for are on his site. No need to enumerate them here.

Gosh Darn Independent said...

Bradley Effect,

You're not welcome here with a name like that. Just having a name like that scores you a perfect 10 on the tool-o-meter.


Mason,

You know who I am. *wink*

Richard and Karin said...

Brilliant, brilliant post. Bravo Sean, you've outdone yourself.

Bradley Effect said...

Gosh Darn Independent:

What is wrong with my sn name...gosh darn independent? Aren't you the proverbial pot calling the kettle black?

Heather Nordquist said...

@bradley effect

You have been debunked by Nate, now go away.

Night said...

From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.

Gosh Darn Independent said...

Pot calling kettle black? Hardly. My name represents freedom from partisan rancor and division. That's hardly a disturbing quality. Your name represents hidden racial biases and misleading tendencies to cover those feelings up. A lying racist is a disturbing quality.

Bradley Effect said...

Not if my real name is B-R-A-D-L-E-Y!

Gosh Darn Independent said...

Bradley Effect,

You have been pwned. Go away.

Gosh Darn Independent said...

You need to leave now.

Gosh Darn Independent said...

You are not welcome here. At all.

Bradley Effect said...

Gosh Darn Independent said...

Bradley Effect,

You have been pwned.

^
Okay. Stay off the video games a sec. This is a BLOG not a video game!

Bradley Effect said...

Gosh Darn Independent said...

You are not welcome here. At all.

^
Say it loud! I'm black, and I'm proud!

Mason said...

Bradley Effect,

You have been pwned. Go away.


Bravo, GDI!

Verifacation: disms

noiateerickson said...

New Ras/Fox News #'s

Missouri- 0 48, M 47
Ohio-o 49 M 45 (Biggest Obama lead ever in Ohio from Ras)
FL- O 51 M 47
NC-M 49 0 48
CO-O 50 M 46
VA- O 51 M 47

The Report makes a note of how stable the race is...no real movement outside of Ohio (in Obama's favor) and NC (in McCain's favor)