10.09.2008

Senate Projections, 10/9

Democrats continue to make gains in senate races around the country, and now rate as having roughly a 1-in-4 chance of emerging with a 60-seat working majority.



The most substantial movement this week is in Georgia, where several polls now show a tight race between Saxby Chambliss and Jim Martin. Martin remains relatively underfunded, but his economic populist message is a good fit for his state, his advertising has been sharp, and Chambliss did not do himself any favors by voting for the bailout. Still, Chambliss remains narrowly ahead.

Kay Hagan, meanwhile, has continued to improve her position in North Carolina, which we now rate as Lean Democrat. About the only good news for the Republicans in Alaska, where Rasmussen now shows Ted Stevens with a 1-point lead, though Ted Stevens' imminent trial could change all of that.

I have also made a couple of changes to the regression model. Firstly, we are replacing the partisan ID variable with a variable indicating Obama's current standing in our presidential projections. Evidently, there are some coattails/synergies with Obama's ground game in states like North Carolina. And secondly, I have introduced a variable for the number of Southern Baptists -- our "scientific" way to demarcate the South -- as the economy seems to be playing differently there than in other regions of the country. Both variables are highly statistically significant.

95 comments

yiannis said...

Strategic vision's republican-commissioned poll has Obama up 14 in PA.

Here's to 60 Dem senators.

jdk said...

http://tiny.cc/granfalloon

Zenu said...

Why is it that the senate voting seems to be much more bipartisan than the presidential voting? I know this has been asked before, but can't remember anyone answering. It's just odd how some states that are deeply-red and always vote for republican presidential candidates can have democratic senators get voted in.

Rich Merritt said...

For our future, let's hope we get lucky. With GWB, our luck ran out, but if we act... maybe our "luck" will return.

jdk said...

Nate said: "I have also made a couple of changes to the regression model. ..... And secondly, I have introduced a variable for the number of Southern Baptists -- our "scientific" way to demarcate the South -- as the economy seems to be playing differently there than in other regions of the country."

1. Is Southern Baptists part of the presidential regression model?
If not, why not?

2. Why not publish the regression tables. I don't get the secrecy.

Ed_H said...

It would be very helpful to know which senators benefit from getting tax-cut earmarks in the bailout bill that passed so we can vote them out of office.

markedman said...

oh yes, oh yes

O-51
M-43


IN VIRGINIA

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_VA_1009535.pdf

Rich Merritt said...

And thanks to you fivethirtyeighters who've indulged me by reading this posting, but as a former southern Baptist, I know how this stuff resonates in those regions. Obama the Antichrist

War Hussein Obama said...

troopergate looks like it isnt going to be favorable to Sarah Palin, McCain camp is already trying to spin it so that Todd Palin takes the fall for it it seems.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2008/10/todd-palin-push.html


come discuss it over at the troll free pollwatcher forum VA Conservative created. I am "Rod" on that forum

http://pollwatcher.forumcircle.com/index.php

Jon said...

Assuming Obama wins, does anyone know what happens to Biden's Senate seat?

natetg said...

"Why is it that the senate voting seems to be much more bipartisan than the presidential voting? I know this has been asked before, but can't remember anyone answering."

Because Senate elections are local. The democratic senators from the red states tend to be more conservative and the republican senators from blue states tend to be more liberal.

Simon said...

He gives it to his son.

p smith said...

Nate

Rasmussen has Franken up 6 points on Coleman today (43-37). You can paint Minnesota blue.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_senate_elections/minnesota/election_2008_minnesota_senate

fattymelt said...

I just want to say thanks to Nate for all of your hard work and great information. It is appreciated by many.

Bryan said...

Assuming Obama wins, does anyone know what happens to Biden's Senate seat?

Biden resigns his Senate seat the day after the election, and the governor (a Dem) appoints someone. IIRC, the conventional wisdom a month back was that it would go to the loser in the Democratic gubernatorial primary (the current governor decided not to run for re-election). That primary's already been done, but I forget who won and who lost.

Aakash said...

Nate,
Do you have any new information about the new NY Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html.

I remember reading you were going to post something about Voter Protection issue when ya'll went to Colorado.

Thanks,
AK

Aakash said...

I can definitely see riots happening if this purging of voters happens again. How many elections do the Democrats have to loose before they grow a spin and fight....

AK

Michael said...

Does the 60 seats include Liebermann and Sanders?

If not, really the DNC just has to get to 59 right? Sanders has been pretty consistent in supporting there views.

Liebermann will defect to the republican party I bet.

Dale Petrie said...

The first thing I wanted to see when I saw that you updated the Senate trackers is where you had Minnesota now. We saw those competing Franken up 9 and Coleman up 10, but clearly the crosstabs on the Coleman +10 were out of touch with reality, so I'm a bit surprised to see it given as much weight as it is.

Second, yesterday, Minnesota Public Radio had another poll in Minnesota showing Franken at +4, I don't know why this poll is not included, but when you look at the RCP averages (and yes, I'm aware of how they cherrypick), it did actually flip their projection from Coleman to Franken.

Third, Rassmussen has the Franken +9 poll today, which appears to have missed your cutoff.

And finally, I don't know HOW Norm Coleman could POSSIBLY win after this little exchange between a reporter and Coleman's campaign manager:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/coleman-spokesman-humilia_n_133026.html

I know you have to cut off information at some point and can't include every poll you know nothing about, but there has been unmistakably clear momentum here that your trackers haven't picked up on...you've moved it from 57% chance Coleman will win to 55%, whereas the polling would suggest that Franken now has at least a 51% chance at this point, probably higher.

Just throwing it out there, otherwise as always, keep up the good work! And mad props on the Colbert interview!

piperyoung said...

looks good Nate. Are there any polls coming down the pipeline for Texas, or is this very slow trickle of few polls gonna be it? (for either senate or president)

Dale Petrie said...

Re my previous comment, the third point, Rasmussen has Franken +6, not +9, finger must have slipped...

Real Joe said...

VA is blue

Eric said...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081009/ap_on_el_ge/voter_purges

I wish Nate would write about the link above. I'm sure it's difficult to figure out hat to write exactly. Bottomline: The only way the Republicans will win this election is if they steal it! I'm a realist, never a conspiracy theorist, but I believe this 100%. Ohio is the best example. There are somne states where new registrations have closed Repblican advantages to about zero, where all things being equal 2008 would be close to a tie. The Republicans can take their chances in those states, but there are a couple where the Pubs are FUBAR. Best example, Ohio!. Bush beat Kerry in 2004 by 119,000 votes. There are 666,000 newly registered voters in Ohio, primarily Democrats. This can't be overcome! If Obama wins Ohio GAMe OVER. So what do the "by any means necessary" GOP party do? They have to destroy the voting process to have a chance. By purging voter registrations, they cna do tihs. People dn't know they've been kicked out of the voter rolls until it's too late. Whatever happens Nov 4th will stick. I've heard of counties in Ohio where the voter rolls have been purged with people being kicked off by a greater number than newvoter registrations. Much of this is likely corrupt and not legitimate. By November 4th it's too late. he reason the Republican party would be willing to go this far IMO is it's the only way they can win this time. Apparently it happened plenty in 2004, but to nowhere near the extent they're doing it this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Christopher said...

One of the really interesting things in this election is how quickly Virginia and Florida swung to Obama at the end here. It was almost a perfect storm between the collapse of Palin and the collapse of the Republican credit card economy. Glad to see those two states 'getting it'.

David said...

So what was the big announcement from McShame?

"http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/McCain_camp_making_news_in_the_morning.html?showall"

Only thing coming from him is yet another Ayers video, not exactly news or game changing. Is there something I missed?

Ayers didn't work for Hillary, it hasn't stopped Obama gains, how about McCrap doing something different like have a serious discussion on economic issues?

They are in such disarray that they can't even properly deflect the incoming bomb because Palin is a power hungry rabid dog.

Carolyn said...

I would put Lieberman in the R column - he doesn't vote with us, he campaigns for McCain, and he is DINO and no longer allowed in Senate De strategy meetings. He will be caucusing with the Rs until the next CT Senate election where the Connecticut for Lieberman Party will be gone. He is campaigning hard for a cabinet seat right now. If Obama wins he is toast.

RWD said...

Well, Slattery may have a zero win % in KS but he has given us some amusing ads. In one, people walk around bare-assed under hospital gowns (asses blurred out, of course). In another, it looks like big greedy executive is pissing on a bunch of people, until you see he's using a gas pump to hose them down.

Aakash said...

I concur with you Eric...Why the hell Obama campaign are not doing (anything visible atleast) to correct the problem...Colorado has less people registered the the 2004 election. Only way this is possible is if voters are being purged by crazy numbers. I read the article by JFK Jr and he mentioned something like 25% in Colorado...

AK

Stephen said...

My thought about Lieberman is that he will NOT leave to go caucus with the Republicans. He will not because the Democrats will have such a large majority that the Republicans will be utterly powerless, especially if they reach 60 seats.

If the Dems do not reach 60 seats, Obama can appointment multiple Republicans senators to the Cabinet, such as Spector of PA or Snowe or Collins in ME, it would allow a democratic governor to replace those vacant seats. Its a win-win for Obama, bipartian cabinet and larger majority in Senate.

Thomas said...

David

McCain tried to have a serious discussion on the economy.

Of course he came up with the ludicrous idea of the taxpayer giving the banks full price for bad mortgages.

David said...

Thomas,

Can any rational person call that a serious discussion?

TBender said...

The Dems need 59 seats so they can avoid giving Lieberman any power.

I'd rather see 57 and look at gaining the rest in 2010 versus getting 58.

Spam210wal said...

You missed Rasmussen's poll this morning showing Franken up by 6.

liberal_defender_of_freedom said...

George Will cracks me up believe it or not. He's got a quircky sence of humor.

"He (McCain)proposes several hundred billions more for his American Homeownership Resurgence -- you cannot have too many surges -- Plan."

HERE is the complete article.

Thomas said...

David - only in reference to the McCain campaign

Jason said...

Since 60 filibuster isn't a procedural vote Lierberman shouldn't be counted as a Democrat. He's not going to get together with Democrats to ram through progressive legislation.

Foregone Conclusion said...

I don't think we need 60 senators. Personally, I'd be happy with over 55. There are (just) enough liberal/moderate Republicans left for a deal to be hammered out on something like health care.

Rich Merritt said...

We keep talking (writing) about 60 democrats, but that's missing the point. 60 is a magic number because 60 Senators must vote to end a filibuster. Those 60 votes don't have to come from democrats. Obviously the more democrats there are, the easier it is to break a republican-led filibuster, but even short of 60 D's, all Reid has to do is find enough republican defectors to help him reach 60. Given the current dissatisfaction, that might not be such a difficult task.
We should be so lucky...

Sam said...

>>"My thought about Lieberman is that he will NOT leave to go caucus with the Republicans. He will not because the Democrats will have such a large majority that the Republicans will be utterly powerless, especially if they reach 60 seats."<<

You are assuming Lieberman has a choice. The best thing that could happen to Lieberman is the Dems getting a 60 seat majority so they will need his vote to stop filibusters. If the Dems come up at 59 votes, Lieberman can kiss his chairmanships and inclusion into the Democratic caucus goodbye.

gougef said...

If it gets down to 1 senator, LIEberman will gladly become a whipped puppy to maintain any taste of power.

It was before the convention, but Harry Reid stated that except the war LIEberman agrees with me on everything else.

mc9cain said...

zenu

Good question. My understanding is that it is exactly what Obama said at the DNC in 2004 "we are not as divided as our politics suggests" What has happened for many recent elections is that the nominees only campaigned in states that they needed to to win. In other words, in a red state if the presidential Dem nominee campaigned as much as the Dem Senate candidate, it would be blue.

Blame said...

I have grave doubts about Begich's chances against Stevens in Alaska.

Nobody would want to admit to voting for Stevens who is up to his neck in sleaze. However it has to be admitted that thanks to Stevens Alaska is swimming in pork.

This is an exact equivelent of the UK "Shy Tory" effect. People speak their hearts, but vote their pockets.

For the same reason I suspect Obama is under polling. There must be a lot of rednecks who really don't want to to be seen voting for a wimp and a n***er, but have a fairly good idea what will happen to the economy under McCain.

If Any of you feel like donating for the cause, I honestly doubt that Obama needs it, but Begich does. Begich can win, but it is going to be tough. http://www.begich.com

Karan said...

Hey Nate

RCP took out PPP from their state level polling. Shocking!
haha.. well they did put Obama ahead in NC and Ohio by 6, so I think you were on to something.

In future don;t give RCP the benefit of the doubt.

Thatcher said...

RCP just moved VIRGINIA to LEAN OBAMA - 277 EVS!

mc9cain said...

Blame,
I think you have it about right both on Alaska and Obama. Looks like Stevens will win unless he is indicted before the election?

markedman said...

RCP counted virginia, for the first time ever they show the state light blue

FINALLY!!!

David said...

RCP just went over the break point Obama/Biden 277. They couldn't keep VA from going to Lean Obama any longer.

Nickname unavailable said...

Fially RCP has Obama ahead with 277 solid or leaning EV. RCP had to do it after today's PPP poll of VA with a +8. He posted the PPP poll and then waited about 20 minutes before he tipped VA. RCP was trying to find some bullshit poll to put up to counter PPP, but couldn't.

RCP is a joke site. Pretends to be serious. But is swirling around Palin's underwear.

PorridgeGun said...

The Daily Show - The Town Hall Debate

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/10/the-debate-stewart-style.html



My head is still hurting from laughing so hard.

FreeThinker said...

Interesting juxtaposition of posts this morning. First Karl Rove, then the SBC. Aren't these the people that Rove collaborated with to get W in office? Didn't Bush and Cheney make appointments based on religious affiliation? Jimmy Carter left this organization because of their autocratic ways. Religion and politics...bad water.

One of Obama's vital early tasks will be to clean out these incompetents from every branch of government. They are like "sleepers" embedded in the beauracracy, waiting for "the time".

Desmond said...
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Desmond said...

Holy shiz, have you guys seen this?

The right-wing pundits were seizing on that Diageo Hotline tracking poll from yesterday, showing Obama +1.

Today it shows Obama +6.

It's a three-day rolling average.

A five point change in one day! To a poll with a three-day rolling average! Mindblowing.

That means in all likelyhood it's going to continue shooting up over the next few days.

The GOP is finished.

Phil James said...

Hey Nate--

In the Minnesota Senate race, isn't it time to consider the possibility of Dean Barkley's impact on that race? It's a third party challenge that looks like it's impacting the numbers there.

Thoughts?

Real Joe said...

desmond said...

The GOP is finished.


:-(

David said...

"I think you have it about right both on Alaska and Obama. Looks like Stevens will win unless he is indicted before the election?"

You mean convicted.

Joe said...

the 60 senator margin isn't like the 51 (where they need Lieberman). It's not a question of if he caucuses with the Democrats, only that he supports stopping a filibuster. And while Lieberman is very hawkish, he is much more to the left on social issues (taxes, health care, etc...) so I would hope he'd support such legislation. That is, assuming he doesn't do something out of spite.

justin32099 said...

"Today it shows Obama +6.

It's a three-day rolling average.

A five point change in one day! To a poll with a three-day rolling average! Mindblowing.

That means in all likelyhood it's going to continue shooting up over the next few days."

The D-H poll uses a really small sample size (less than 300 voters per day!) It's had multiple swings like this (I don't know about 5 pts, but I've seen 3-4 pt swings before) in the last few months.

I do think that overall, Obama's momentum has halted (not that he could go that much higher) and McCain may have improved by a point or two, but there's no indication that this race is on the way to becoming close again.

thesmothete said...

Stevens trial is not imminent, it's happening now! What's likely to occur before the election is the VERDICT, not the trial.

quantman said...

BREAKING NEWS!!


President Bush says " US will take STRONG action on the crisis"!

- What was President Bush waiting for?

- IF the actions that both his admin and Congress have taken recently, were NOT strong, then what the heck was it?

We are being BUSHed!!

Has Bush been waiting for McCain to be elected President, before taking strong action on the crisis?

I Can't figure this one out!

Can you?

Joey said...

In other news, the sheriff who made the "Barack Hussein Obama" speech at the rally may get fired.

Although apparently it's not because of what he said, but because he was on duty/in uniform and mixing work and politics is not allowed.

And now he has responded in a full page letter where he said he did it "because [he] wanted to"

bitwise said...

There is a new MPR poll showing Franken +4.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/10/07/senatepoll/

InkStain said...

"And now he has responded in a full page letter where he said he did it "because [he] wanted to""

Tough noogies. I can get fired at my job for outward displays of political affiliation in public, too. You know what I do? I don't do it.

PorridgeGun said...

I think it's safe to say, Alaska is officially the Dumbest State in the Union. Tubes Stevens was behind by double digits - that is until Mooseburger was put on the scum ticket. Now it's a toss-up. Bonkers!

nic said...

By any reasonable markers, Lieberman is going to lose his chair position after the election. They have needed him in the caucus to get 51 senators. If they only have 50 senators -- a tie -- control goes to the party that has the White House. So that would mean that the majority on all the committees would be Republican. That's why they've tolerated him, and he's bargained for a chair position as his payout.

They won't need him for that either way after the election, assuming Obama wins (and if he doesn't, we'll have a lot more to be worrying about than Lieberman). A tie will stay with Democrats, so they won't need to bribe him with his chair position and he'll be officially out of the caucus (as opposed to unofficially now). He will vote how he likes, but if he wants to lobby for the power of a minority committee chair position, he'll need to caucus with the Republicans.

The filibuster number would be nice, but the simple majority is much more important and that seems inevitable at this point.

bm said...

Hi Nate.

Nice. But how do you handle your "Baptism" variable for the states not included in the the list you linked. Missing or zero?

Also - do you suggest there is a causal connection between southern baptism and the different role of the economy - or does it simply serve as an indicator?

Thx

nkpolitics1279 said...

Virginia and New Mexico are the 2006 PA US Senate Race- Mark Warner(D-VA) and Tom Udall(D-NM) are going to win their Senate Races by a 60-40 margin. Jim Gilmore will end up being a Political Analyst at FOXNEWS.

Colorado is the 2006 OH US Senate Race. Mark Udall(D-CO)is going to win by a 55-45 margin.

New Hampshire is the 2006 RI US Senate Race. Jeanne Shaheen(D-NH)is going to win by a 53-46 margin.

Oregon ,North Carolina, and Minnesota are going to be the 2006 MO US Senate Race. Jeff Merkley(D-OR) and Kay Hagan(D-NC)and Al Franken are going to win by a 51-48 percent margin.

Alaska is going to be the 2006 MT US Senate Race.

Mark Begich wins by 50-49 percent margin.

Real Joe said...

RCP adds PPP VA

War Hussein Obama said...

Rasmussen: Is The Electoral Dam Breaking for Obama?

Ratty said...

lolz at AK. Fingers crossed, but still... lolz.

Real Joe said...



Obama Rally in Dayton, Ohio

http://us.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream2

Sean said...

Does anyone know when the Supreme Court is supposed to announce their ruling on Troopergate?

shalott said...

If you haven't seen this yet -- it's pretty vile, so go in with a strong stomach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E

(McCain-Palin supporters after a rally.)

War Hussein Obama said...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/09/politics/main4511568.shtml


Todd trying to take the fall in troopergate

War Hussein Obama said...

October Surprise = TROOPERGATE

sounds like if Todd Palin meeting with Palin aides to get a trooper fired is the EXCUSE to preempt the report and take the blame off of Sarah Palin.

This thing is going to be pretty damn bad news for Sarah.

Naraht said...

Anyone else having problems getting their heads around the fact that his numbers indicate that the Democrats have a higher likelihood of getting to 65 Senators (including the two I's) than the Republicans have of getting back to a tie by adding one senator? (and the scary thing is that this is mostly done without one of the races that a year ago was one that was considered most likely: Maine!)

nkpolitics1279 said...

Kentucky and Georgia are bellwether US Senate Races- If Democrats win either of those races- they will be get more than 60 US Senate Seats.

Polls in KY and GA close at 7pm ET.

David said...

I think it is hilarious that they are trying to blame the husband. Like that is going to help.

There were already stories of him sitting in on governmental meeting, which is highly inappropriate, now this? It doesn't say anything good about Sarah.

What will he try to pull if Palin is VP? Try to set the FBI against Caribou Barbie's "enemies" in Alaska?

jalawr said...

I too am very concerned about Voter Protection issues (URL previously cited in Comments)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html

Am worried all these mass purges in swing states could affect election results, contradicting poll projections of the win margin.

levijohn1981 said...

I think the issue is not just whether Obama wins but by how much. If we can win a big electoral landslide and put a couple "red" states into the Democrat column, it will really help out the party in two ways. First, Obama will have a huge mandate and be able to push things through the Senate whether or not we have 60 dems. Second, in terms of future elections, it will expand the "swing state" list and help Obama '12 and all dems to come.

Real Joe said...



527 action

Change to Win hits McCain on healthcare

The labor federation Change to Win will drop about a million pieces of mail ripping McCain's healthcare stance to members in swing states, an official there says.

The mail, which attacks McCain's suggestion that healthcare deregulation should follow the model of finance, is pretty direct: "George Bush and John McCain: Leaving working Americans SICK and BROKE," it says.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Change_to_Win_hits_McCain_on_healthcare.html?showall

Andy said...

" Firstly, we are replacing the partisan ID variable with a variable indicating Obama's current standing in our presidential projections. Evidently, there are some coattails/synergies with Obama's ground game in states like North Carolina. "

Wow this is almost exactly what I suggested in an earlier thread. You're the best Nate!

Napoleon said...

explaination on what you mean about Southern Baptist and which direction they break differantly. Personally I have been wondering if the gas shortages in the south have caused their polling to diverge from the rest of the nation the last 2 weeks or so.

Real Joe said...

black guy in McCain rally asking McCain to attack Obama

Sean said...

How do you account for what we see in Minnesota? Two polls conducted on the same day, one showing Coleman ahead 43-33 (+10), and the other showing him trailing 43-34 (-9).

Alex S. said...

The very recent developments & polls will give the victory to Al Franken I think. Apart from the already secure seats in Virginia, New Mexico, Colorado and New Hampshire, I would add Oregon, North Carolina and Minnesota to the Democratic column. It´s unbelievable that Stevens is still in a toss-up situation, but ok, ok, he isn´t convicted yet. Musgrove vs. Wicker looks like the same kind of race that gave the Democrats their victories in this year´s special elections. On election day, democratic enthusiasm, combined with Republicans apathy, will turn that seat blue. Georgia and Kentucky are looking promising - which is not really fair to those Republican senators who voted against their constituencies, but did the right thing, in my opinion. I actually see them both losing. Chambliss will lose to the newly registered Democrats, and McConnell was one of the prominent figures of the bailout vote.
Collins in Maine is having a few problems, but it still looks like she´ll survive. And my surprise-in-the-making: Lindsey Graham. I think his seat is less safe than most people, including himself, think. He has a rather unconventional opponent; so imagine it to be like Allen vs. Webb of 2008.

nkpolitics1279 said...

US Senate Race by margins
1)VA Warner(D) 65-35
2)NM Udall(D)60-40
3)CO Udall(D) 54-46
4)NH Shaheen(D) 54-46
5)NC Hagan(D)52-48
6)OR Merkley(D)52-48
7)AK Begich(D)51-49
8)MN Franken(D)51-49

Bridge said...

I'm not surprised about Susan Collin's substantial lead against Congressman Tom Allen in Maine, however well liked he was. She's one of the least "Republican" Republicans in the Senate & she's one of the nicest "famous" people I've ever encountered. I just don't have it in me to ever vote Republican, but if I did, during my ten years in Maine, I'd've voted for Susan. Back in August, I was at Logan Airport about to take a flight to Baltimore to see the Red Sox at Camden Yard, and she was at the same gate area, off to a thing in Martha's Vineyard. She had a dude who looked mildly bodyguardish with her, but I went right up to her and started chatting. She was engaging, pleasant and REAL (for lack of a better word). I thanked her for her work on behalf of ANWR; she thanked me for being a Maine educator (after I explained that I once was). Afterwards, my family asked, "Who was that?" And when I told them it was my fmr US Senator, they were SHOCKED that she was just sittin' there waiting for a charter plane. Our Mass US Senators have their own private jets and whatnot. They'd never converse with the lay people at Logan. Maine is fiercely independent; hence the moderate Republican ALL WOMEN Senators, the split delegates, the fmr Independent governor and the need to have campaigners there every election cycle. That's why it's the best state in the Union.
-Mrs. Nate Silver (http://bridge-inthepines.blogspot.com/2008/10/new-phantom-husband-nate-silver-of.html)

Jay said...

I understand why Mr. Silver is only tracking Democrats v. Republicans in the U.S. Senate races. However, there are three (3) candidates running in Minnesota (remember Ross Perot, Jesse Ventura?) and when the Independent party candidate is showing 14-18% of the polled vote, I don't believe you can normalize out (i.e., ignore) the "third man." That said, your report and analysis on the Senate race in MN is badly skewed, at best! I thought better of you Mr. Silver!

Bill (Dad to Deeboo &amp; Jay) said...

No, you can't normalize the Minnesota Senate race into a two-factor analysis. But because Minnesota has shown such support for independent candidates lately, you can probably assume that most of the Barkley voters will stick with him. This is a heavily anti-incumbent year so they're not going to break back for Coleman.

Nate, you need to update the GA Senate race projection. If the latest Rasmussen number is an outlier--and it looks like it may be--then there's an upset loss for Chambliss brewing.

John said...

Update, perhaps?

egapre said...

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