10.31.2008

Senate Projections, 10/31

We are beginning to get a much clearer idea of where the action is going to be on Election Day. Although the Democrats are on the verge of wrapping up several pickups, their chances of earning a 60th seat have somewhat declined.



Democrats were always going to pick up seats in Virginia and New Mexico, and remain in position to do so. You can add Colorado to that list. Mark Udall now has double-digit leads in essentially all polling, and perhaps as much as two-thirds of the state has already voted; he will become the next senator from the Rocky Mountain State.

Our model also classifies New Hampshire as "safe", meaning that it attributes Jeanne Shaheen with at least a 95 percent chance of picking up John Sununu's seat. But I wouldn't completely turn out the lights on this race. While Shaheen remains comfortably ahead in most polling, there has emerged a pretty significant gap between her support and Barack Obama's, meaning that there are fair numbers of Obama-Sununu voters. That isn't so out of character for New Hampshire, which contains as many independent voters as anywhere in the country, but if for some reason the polls are overestimating Obama's performance, perhaps Sununu could make a race of it. Still, Sununu has been behind all year, he remains that way, and his time has basically run out.

Oregon is breaking Jeff Merkley's way, as a hot-off-the-presses poll from PPP gives him an 8 point lead, his largest on the year to date. This follows polling earlier in the week by SurveyUSA and the Portland Tribune which had shown him ahead by 7 and 5 points, respectively. Gordon Smith has been left to fend for himself in Oregon, where John McCain never developed any momentum, and there is evidence that turnout is down in areas where his base might be located. With many of Oregon's ballots already having been turned in, Smith's chances of pulling this race out may be less than the 16 percent that the model assigns to him.

In Alaska, we have a post-conviction poll from Rasmussen, and have wiped out all pre-conviction data. That poll shows Mark Begich ahead by 8 points. The regression model is still a bit confused by this race and thinks it could be closer than expected, but I'm not really buying that. If the Research 2000 poll comes back this weekend with strong numbers for Begich, it will move toward the Safe Democratic category.

You can draw a line right about here ... those are the six Democratic pickups that I'd describe as relatively safe (partly in the belief that the model is conservative on both Merkley and Begich for the reasons articulated above). We then get into what will be the three most closely-watched races on Election Night:

The first of these is in North Carolina, which continues to lean toward Demcoratic challenger Kay Hagan, but where we are waiting to gauge the reaction to Elizabeth Dole's controversial new ad which implies that Hagan, an elder at the First Presbyterian Church, is an athiest. The ad has drawn a harsh reaction from the local media and a Rasmussen poll conducted on Wednesday night, just as the controversy was starting to brew, had Hagan moving into a 6-point lead. But, the Carolinas have a long tradition of last-minute attack advertising, and the only reason it has that tradition is because sometimes such things work. Dole's ad is callous enough that it seems likely to be one of the exceptions, but this remains a race to watch.

In Minnesota, polling from PPP and the Humphrey Institute is showing movement toward Al Franken, but polling from Rasmussen and Mason-Dixon showing just the opposite and breaking in Norm Coleman's direction. Such highly volatile polling is sometimes characteristic of races involving third party candidates, and Dean Barkley continues to hold onto about 15 percent of the vote in this race. As I suggested on Tuesday, it is likely that some of that Barkley vote will collapse, and there are some hints that is more likely to break toward Franken, but characterizing this race as anything other than a toss-up would be generous.

The other contest that will be watched very closely is in Georgia, where Jim Martin remains stuck about 2-3 points behind Saxby Chambliss in most polling, but where both early voting patterns and the nature of the undecided vote suggest that the race may in fact be closer to a toss-up. My guess is that there's at least a 40-50 percent chance that the race is headed for a runoff, which is what would happen should neither candidate receive an outright majority of the vote.

The last group of races to watch are two contests breaking away somewhat from the Democrats, constraining their opportunity to pick up a 60th seat. The first of these races is in Kentucky, where Bruce Lunsford has stalled out at about 44 percent of the vote; he will need the undecideds to break to him in a big way if he's going to win. The other is in Mississippi, where Rasmussen has become the second consecutive poll to give Roger Wicker a double-digit advantage. Our regression model seems to think that Obama may have more coattails in Mississippi than the polls are letting on. But Ronnie Musgrove has gotten somewhat boxed in, being portrayed as a liberal in attack ads by Wicker, but seen as too conservative by many progressive Democrats to warrant their money and attention, which has instead gone to candidates like Lunsford and Martin. The DSCC may need to look at its internal polling and figure out whether it wants to try and preserve an opportunity for Musgrove, or perhaps go all-in instead on a race like Kentucky.

There is no longer really any sort of fourth tier of races, though Nebraska hasn't been polled in a long time. The two Democratic-held seats that the Republicans had hoped to put into play, in Louisiana and New Jersey, continue to look completely safe for the incumbents.


260 comments

kimmy said...

First ...

Dave Reiner said...

Go Barack!

Bede the Youthful said...

Joe Scar needs a bunch in the face.

Also, this Khalidid stuff makes me sick. HOW DARE YOU KNOW AN ARAB DUDE!

Ed said...

Shame on Liddy Dole. To think I once had a shred of respect for this women. I can only hope, in the end, this is her undoing.

I'm tired of politicians not being called out on these sleazy tactics. The press only seems to like it. Winning at any cost seems to mean to our national press that a pol is "bold" and "just wants to win", but is really a good guy.

Blech.

Bede the Youthful said...

That ASU poll is the biggest joke I have ever seen. What is the MOE for a 200 person sample? 10?

Aussie bloke said...

Hey from a long long way away.

If you want some satire, listen to these guys. Aussie take on the US election.

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/racerace/

They're the guys that hijacked the APEC forum last year and drove a "Canadian" motorcade with fake dressed up Osama bin Laden right outside Dubya's hotel in the middle of the secure zone. Well worth a listen.

Do the world proud next Tuesday guys, don't let us down.

Aunt Karen said...

Well, the response to the Dole ad was quite powerful, itself. I'm hoping that strong pushback will help Hagan get momentum.

jslater said...

Sixty was always a long shot. The goal will be, when the Repubs try to fillibuster, to get a few Repubs to vote for cloture. If we just need 2-3 Repubs, that's not so bad.

Sean said...

First off, I live in Lexington, Kentucky (Home of the "Latte-Lapping Liberal"). Just a disclosure.

The poll commissioned by the Herald-Leader (Research 2000: http://tinyurl.com/5crqwn) showed that although the undecided vote was 10% in the race, 22% of African-Americans were undecided between Lunsford and McConnell in the Senate race here. The white undecideds were 8%.

I've wondered if perhaps they are hiding their support in order not to make Lunsford into the "black candidate," as some of the more unsavory types here in the Bluegrass State have labeled Obama. Has this trend been noted in other polls, I wonder?

Bede the Youthful said...

Was that MSNBC piece supposed to be shocking? All the Manhattanites seemed pretty decent about it. What the hell are they talking about? They are making a story out of nothing. If you tried the reverse, you'd be lucky not to be stoned.

Bilbo Hussein Baggins said...

Aussie bloke said...
Hey from a long long way away.

If you want some satire, listen to these guys. Aussie take on the US election.

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/racerace/


This is pretty good stuff!

kimmy said...

Bede the Youthful said...

Was that MSNBC piece supposed to be shocking?


Joe Scag is PISSY because his man is losing. ..

What pisses me off is that the other panelist are sort of agreeing with every stupid thing he says ...

I saw NOTHING wrong with the piece ...

This is New York and If I did NOT see a SINGLE middle finger salute, I will say that went Pretty WELL ...

dlg said...

Just an anecdote I have from South Carolina. Last night I was talking to my 80 year old, affluent, white aunt who lives in Aiken, SC. She told me that she decided to try early voting, and went to the one place in Aiken where she could do it, and was "dismayed" to see a huge line of mostly black folk. She "didn't feel comfortable" standing in that line, so decided to vote on election day. And this aunt of mine is a Democrat who is going to vote for Obama! I think the black turnout is going to be enormous, and who knows what "side effects" there may be.

p smith said...

Strategic Vision has Obama up 5 in PA, up 9 in NH and up 13 in MI.

The PA figure is of course the most interesting and I noted that this pollster had Obama up 7 two weeks ago.

While I'm not worried, it does at least confirm a tightening in the PA race which I think was inevitable. That said, I remain of the view that PA is a certain blue state.

One question. Why the hell is Obama in Iowa today? That race is over given early voting. I would rather he was in PA if he wants to shore up a Dem leaning state.

dkliman said...

You're missing the october 24-28 University of Minn/MPR. Poll that has Franken ahead 41 37 against colemen.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/10/30/senatepoll/

Matt said...

InsiderAdvantage polls

Missouri
M: 50
O: 47

North Carolina
O: 48
M: 48

IMO Obama squeaks by in NC but falls short in MO.

p smith said...

Here is the link to the SV polls

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/10/31/strategic_vision_obama_leads_in_new_hampshire_pennsylvania.html

blueinkansas said...

How I wish there were long lines of Democrats waiting to vote.........Kansas still a neo-cons vacationland! Please send help, red color only goes with my shoes.........Dorothy

tezro said...

As an ex NH voter...

Will straight ticket voting have an impact on results? NH is a state which allows voters to choose one party across the ballot by checking a single box. So Obama/Sununu voters need to feel strongly enough about Sununu over Shaheen to fill out the whole ballot.

If I were still an NH voter (I recently moved to VT) I would have a really hard time voting for Shaheen. I didn't like her as guv and her campaign style is shallow and negative.

If there was already a solid Dem majority, I would probably vote for Sununu, but given the circumstances, I would hold my nose and mark Shaheen to add to the National tidal wave.

matador said...

howdy folk, good morning.

As several of you should know I am foreigner (Europe) following this site and waiting breathless for an Obama victory on Nov. 4th.
Meanwhile, can someone explain me the meaning of:
"...The Starbucks: Walmart ratio is over 8-to-1..."
from Nevada-Sean's post below????
Cause I know Starbucks and Walmart but I don't have a f***k clue about what the comparison between them means.
Anticipate thanks a lot to the merciful person whom might care to answer.
Go Obama !

p.s.

Nate:
Good job as usual,but…take some rest.
;)

Herunar said...

I really think you're significantly underestimating AA turnout, Nate, and it's making your model suck. You should check the reverse Bradley effect during the Democratic primaries, especially in the South, and artificially add a few points to Obama and other Democrats' polling. I'd be surprised if AA doesn't take up 30% of the vote in Georgia. They're taking up, like, 40% for early voting?

Sreenu said...

@psmith
"One question. Why the hell is Obama in Iowa today? That race is over given early voting. I would rather he was in PA if he wants to shore up a Dem leaning state."

I think it could one or more of these reasons:
1. He canceled a rally there last week when he had to go to Hawaii to visit his ailing grandmother.
2. He feels obliged to visit them at least once more before the election since IA is the state that propelled him first to get this far.
3. He is planning to go 'trick or treating' this evening with his daughters (I think in Chicago)..so the proximity matters :-)

donelson said...

I will tell you: I am so OUTRAGED at scummy Republican "political pornography" these days, that I have been donating to Democrats in election races where they have been unfairly attacked.

Today I donated for the first time to Kay Hagan.

If you feel raped by Republicans, please donate to Kay at -


https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/khagan

dsunbury said...

Hey Aussie Bloke which part of Oz are you from? I live in South Yarra, Melbourne and been breathing the presidential race daily. The Chaser Boys are way too funny :)

Go-Obama!!!

[ tyler curtain ] said...

Kay Hagan responds to Liddy Dole in the NC race. It's scorching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k76tRXq0ZC0

(the verification WOTD is 'whagi' as in the hateful tail of politics whagis the moral dog)

Dominic said...

matador said...

howdy folk, good morning.

As several of you should know I am foreigner (Europe) following this site and waiting breathless for an Obama victory on Nov. 4th.
Meanwhile, can someone explain me the meaning of:
"...The Starbucks: Walmart ratio is over 8-to-1..."


Comparing the number of Starbucks outlets to the number of Walmart outlets is a sort of cultural shorthand, comparing two different types of Americans: those who sip "Vanilla bullsh*ts" at Starbucks and those who buy plastic floral arrangements and Mom jeans at Walmart. However, I don't know how relevant it is, I personally would be embarrassed to be seen in either establishment.

Dave Brodbeck said...

Pretty good response by Hagan, though I mean if I were voting and found that someone yelled 'there is no God' they would have my vote pretty quickly....

Sreenu said...

@matt:

I think I will agree with you on NC and will actually go with what PPP will say on their final poll for the state..they are from the state and know it better than any other pollster.

On MO I think there is still a good chance of Obama squeaking by especially if he wins the PV by anything over 5 points (remember the primaries when he was down by a few points and came back to win in a squeaker)

matador said...

Dominic said...

October 31, 2008 7:37 AM

*********

I knew there were at least one merciful soul out there.
:)
thank you.

LAT said...

There is a report on today's Washington POst that McCain is putting all his money on ads this weekend at the expense of the big GOTV effort done by Bush last time around. He has only 750 volunteers going to ALL the battleground states' on part of the RNC.

This seems madness to me. He thinks going hyper negative on ads will change the minds of independents and obama supporters and then people will just turn out to vote?

Can someone explain this one to me because I simply do not get it.
My WV--comode! we need Joe the Plumber.

scarne said...

Huffington Post had a potential MN game-changer yesterday. A Coleman supporter funneled $75,000 in unearned income to Coleman's wife. This came to light through a Texas civil suit for benefit of the corporation used as a funnel. Suit and pleading is verified by link. Coleman's reaction was taped - fast walk/retreat to SUV and refusal to comment. Considering the high degree of negativity in this campaign, I see erosion on current Coleman support, probably to Barkley.

kittles93 said...

Is Obama only in Iowa today?

What is his schedule?

kimmy said...

I can't believe I actually just saw a Faux Noise commercial on MSNBC ...

newsinOH said...

lat,

Mc DEFINITELY upped the buy here in OH but they're the same old, same old ads. O, on the other hand, has multiple ads hitting many issues, including the two new ones, rearview mirror and the one where they note Buffett's (Warren, not Jimmy) and Powell's endorsements.

Wisdom of it? Who knows at this point. Maybe they figure Rs usually vote at a higher percentage anyway so best to get them to make up their minds first.

kimmy said...

Schedule for Today

Fri., Oct. 31

Barack Obama holds rallies in Des Moines, Iowa, and Highland, Ind.

John McCain holds rallies in Hanoverton and Columbus, Ohio.

Joe Biden holds rallies in Newark, Del., and Kettering and Lima, Ohio.

Sarah Palin campaigns in Latrobe and York, Pa.

Aussie bloke said...

@ dsunbury:

I'm from Canberra so we too get Melbourne Cup day off so will go to our own races. Wednesday here (Tuesday arvo/night US time) I'll be taking a 'recovery' day and throw in the election watching too. Should be good.

The Chaser boys are king.

Jeremy said...

Nate,
I live just across the Mississippi border in Memphis, Tennessee. Our local TV stations serve large suburbs in MS. Regarding the Musgrove/Wicker race, I can assure you the DSCC has not taken your advice. Prior to a week or two ago, I hardly ever saw any Musgrove commercials. Starting about a week ago, I began seeing a new DSCC commercial for Musgrove (rather against Wicker) just about every day. Clearly the DSCC still thinks this is a potential pickup.

newsinOH said...

lat,

Additionally, Mc's campaign apparently hasn't drawn too many people along the way so they likely just don't have the bodies to pull off a great GOTV effort. Since GOTV requires months and months of sustained effort, rather than an instantaneous, reflexive tactical decision, it would not have been on Mc's radar . . .

Bush Whacked said...

That schedule seems to indicate that the Obama campaign is very concerned about PA

Darío said...

Why Obama was in Iowa today?

TBender said...

Some early voting info from the Houston area:

29% of RV have voted in Harris County (Houston)
34% of RV have voted in Montgomery County (North of Houston)
41% of RV have voted in Ft. Bend County (SW of Houston)

Today is the last day of early voting.

Just amazing numbers. Half of my county (Ft. Bend) will have voted before Tuesday.

newsinOH said...

bush whacked said...

That schedule seems to indicate that the Obama campaign is very concerned about PA




yeah . . . terrified

Darío said...

Strategic Vision new:

PA: Obama 49-44
NH: Obama 50-41
MI: Obama 54-41

newsinOH said...

That would be Strategery Vision

MysticLaker said...

@dario He is making up for not cancelling last week. He also wants to be in the mid-west for the evening to see his family before pushing out for the next 4 days.

LAT said...

thanks news for your replies I just think one of the things that Rove did right was to use the last 72 hours to seal the deal with an army of GOTV troops. McCain gave up on that--he has not big mass of volunteers and now if they want to GOTv they need to do it on their own dime. I think you are right that he is trusting that his message will get the people out. Seems mad to me!

Is Rass out with state polls today? i am betting he puts out a PA poll that has Obama down to 5. Like SV.

Bush Whacked said...

newinOH said...

yeah ... terrfied


Exactly. Perhaps we should follow their lead an chill out.

PA John said...

Strategic Vision new:

PA: Obama 49-44
NH: Obama 50-41
MI: Obama 54-41


McCain's ceiling in PA is about 45%

kittles93 said...

Since GOTV will rely a lot on unpaid people now for McCain (meaning pay even for your own lodging and transportation), I wonder how many who normally would travel from say New York to Ohio simply don't.

Weird decision by McCain. And it strikes me as one that means he is simply trying to avoid a rout.

Darío said...

Why the Obama supporters not vote?.
They´re crazy with his guy and not vote. Remember that ignorant rednecks vote, so the polls not win the election, the votes do.

matador said...

is there early vote in PA ???
If yes how was it ???

kittles93 said...

No early vote in PA.

Aunt Karen said...

@matador

Essentially no, there's no early voting in PA. Really, every state has some form of early voting (absentee ballot), but some states (PA is one, VA is another, MA a third) have restrictions on who can get an absentee ballot.

In some other states, the early voting is all by absentee ballot, but those states have what are called 'no excuses' absentee rules, meaning you don't have to have an excuse for why you are voting absentee.

Darío said...

Rasmussen?

LAT said...

where is Ant? paging Ant with the early Rass numbers.
(thanks ant)

dario---this idea that Obama voters will not show up seems very off to me. Especially regarding the youth vote. They showed up in the primary when everyone thought they would not they will again.

Brad said...

PA is key, McCan't does seem to be getting some traction in the state. Iowans didn't fall for the Palin BS, looks like the T is PA is not as smart as Iowa.

BHO needs to get more out on McCain and Kalidid (and McCain's giving Kailidi lots of cash), the Kalidi story is getting some legs with the low info types.

Ras out yet for subscribers?

kittles93 said...

Ras

51-47

McCain up 1, O no change.

Antmatic said...

Kittles beat me to it

Real Joe said...



AP/YAHOO

Obama 51, McCain 43

Darío said...

Honestly, i don´t think Obama will win.

Darío said...

the AP/Yahoo poll is a joke.

Brandon said...

According to an article on Politico, the Insider Advantage poll for MO shows blacks giving Obama only 65% support.

I don't think so!

Real Joe said...



The Obama campaign manager will host a media conference call on the state of the race at 9:30 am ET

Real Joe said...

darío said...
Honestly, i don´t think Obama will win.


McCain Surge !!

Antmatic said...

Hotline
O-48
M-41

Undecideds going up?

shadowguidex said...

In my city, we have one Starbucks and one Walmart, and oddly enough they are right next to each other. We're Obama country though, so it's ok.

Antmatic said...

Dario, which states do you think Obama will lose?

kittles93 said...

shocking, dario. shocking.

I think you have made your thoughts abundantly clear on Obama's chances. (And done so in a fair fashion.)

Aussie bloke said...

Oh teh narrowing!
Oh teh surge!!
Oh teh victory!!!

Oh teh huge manatee?

Darío said...

Antimatic, Missouri and Indiana, maybe Ohio because the large ignorant population.

shadowguidex said...

"Honestly, i don´t think Obama will win."

Honestly, I don't think McCain has any chance in the world of winning, not from what I see, read, and interact with every day. One of us is clearly wrong.

cora said...

Darío said...
Honestly, i don´t think Obama will win.


why ?

War Hussein Obama said...

dario, obama needs none of those states to win the election.

Darío said...

why?.

Yo can see that on November 5.

newsinOH said...

dario,

which still doesn't get you anywhere close to a loss . . . plus, Ohio is slow to move in either direction. It has been O for weeks now (last M poll was Strategery Vision). OH will be blue.

Next?

War Hussein Obama said...

LOL at AP/Yahoo


talk about a wild swing

LAT said...

dario--Obama losing those states does nothing for McCain. McCain needs to still win PA and he will not.

Good to see Obama still at 51 on Rass. He had a great night last night on Dkos tracker. So all good.

Bilbo Hussein Baggins said...

Is this the first election where both candidates are left handed?

mc9cain said...

Dario,
There's lots of little graphs around the internet that show that Obama losing OH, IN, MO have nothing to do with winning the election.

antmatic,
thanks for the numbers. Hotline is a -1 for McCain today.

Pierre said...

Extremely stupid strategic decision by McCain to forgo normal GOTV operations in favor of a media campaign. If he hasn't been able to influence independents with his guilt-by-association and "Obama is a socialist" ads of the past month, upping their frequency won't do it, either.

He would have been better off using all of that money for GOTV.

But I guess a flyboy can never understand the important of boots on the ground...

Jeremy said...

Dario.

Obama doesn't need those states to win. He's massively ahead in IO, NM, CO (the last two with early voting in which he's ahead by more than 60-40), plus VA and NV are in the bag - so what are you worried about?

cora said...

Darío said...
Antimatic, Missouri and Indiana, maybe Ohio because the large ignorant population.


OH MO IN is not enough,
were else will he lose ?

jslater said...

Both candidates are left-handed? Really? Not significant, obviously, but an odd bit of trivia.

Darío said...

Jeremy, take the ignorant factor plus racism.

LAT said...

thanks Ant (and kittles). Any state numbers coming out b Rass today?

dario thinks a black man will not win because of racism. basically that all the polls are lying and voting patterns will be wildly different. Right? I respect you dario but this is not the way it will play out.

shadowguidex said...

"Antimatic, Missouri and Indiana, maybe Ohio because the large ignorant population."

good thing he doesn't need any of them.

He needs: New Mexico, Iowa, and Colorado...

or: New Iowa and Virginia

or: Florida

or: Ohio

or: New Mexico, Iowa, and Nevada.


Seriously, he has a ton of winning combinations, and McCain has one....

McCain needs to win: Florida, and Ohio, and Indiana, and Virginia, and Colorado, and North Carolina, and Missouri, and Nevada.

Darío said...

Obama has more chances in the west than in the Rus-belt i think.

kittles93 said...

real joe,

what are your feelings on the race at this point? have they changed at all?

War Hussein Obama said...

Dario, if Obama wins in a landslide will you eat your own face?

Aaron said...

An Oregon follow-up: Jeff Mapes at The Oregonian has turnout by party numbers.

The enthusiasm gap is huge -- 49% of Democrats have returned their ballots, 41% of republicans have.

Dems already have a 240,000 vote registration edge, so overall turnout so far is 50% D, 31% R. I don't think that's an impossible margin for Gordon Smith to beat (I can see him picking up 15-20% of Dems and 60-70% of independents), but it's not easy.

cora said...

Dario,

you posted about Democrats not voting. Then you mention ignorance and racism.

You must have imagined a way McCain will finally win. Can we share ?

Accidental Hippie said...

Why are there so many McCain ads on here? They frighten me.

Darío said...

Racism is present in the Rusbelt (plus ignorance) and in the north-east.
But it´s not a problem in the west (NV, CO and NM).

PA John said...

Dario = concern troll

chris said...

Only 65% of AAs in Mo support Obama?

Small small sample again.

Like that poll that had McCain up 3 to 1 among 18-25s, but at least they starred it

Darío said...

pa john is my friend.

newsinOH said...

dario,

Again, the early in house voting stats from Cleveland--the largest voter block in OH:


Here's the breakdown on the in person voters (38,951 total):

D: 23,638

I: 8,278

R: 786 (yes, that's the correct number, no missing digits)

X (undeclared, usually a new voter): 6,249

Aunt Karen said...

@accidental

Click on those ads. That way, Nate gets paid, and it takes more money away from McCain. At least 10 clicks a day, more if you have the time.

On to the racism. I think a lot of racists just won't vote. The ones I know are staying home, at least.

Darío said...

Great numbers newsinOH.

chris said...

On Liddy Dole (to backtrack again )

Is she so stupid to label a Sunday school teacher a racist?

No, she said Hagen is in favour of a Godless America.

Code for vote Hagen = vote Obama = vote Muslim.

Shameful

newsinOH said...

Official numbers, dario . . .

Jeremy said...

Dario, I know you're not a mindless concern troll because I've seen your posts here over the months- but on this, ammigo, you're completely taking it too far.

Of course we should be diligent and fight every state like the entire election depends on it, but Obama has many paths to 270 and I for one don't see any way that this country has enough racist or people voting against their own interest for Obama to lose. Chill dude, and feel good about this because we are winning and winning big. :-)

PorridgeGun said...

After watching the first 5 minutes of Obama's infomercial the other night, I just finished watching the rest of it. I'd rate it 3/5. Not bad, but not great either. For the amount of money they spent on it I'd expect more bang for my buck. It got it's point across but didn't hit nay emotional high-points, particularly at the end. If Obama's numbers rise in the next couple of days, I suspect it will have had more to do with the Florida rally with Clinton, rather than the infomercial. Wednesday perhaps had too much camapaign activity to know for sure. But still, I think they should have hammered away more on policy and emotion.


BTW, has anyone noticed how the MSM have followed the same talking points as the AP hit-piece on the infomercia? Almost word for word Ron Fournier/Liz Sidoti hatchet job from CBS and CNN.




What's up with Missouri? It goes from competitive, to out of play, then breaking significantly for Obama, then back to McCain, albeit slightly. Yesterday's late night rally should probably be Obama's last in that state, unless the polls begin to break his way once again. His presence has already been felt, it will break one way or another regardless of whether he goes back.

LAT said...

news those numbers are staggering!

cora said...

Darío said...
Racism is present in the Rusbelt (plus ignorance) and in the north-east.
But it´s not a problem in the west (NV, CO and NM)

-------------
NE is as blue as Idaho and Texas are RED. Sometimes I have the feeling you assume this entire election is about racism. It is a factor, no doubt, but certainly not the only one in play. And not even a major one.

Stav said...

As a frequent Obama canvasser in NH I can tell you that NH voters do not like Shaheen. She may win because they dislike Sununu even more. This is a seat that will be decided at the polls, as voters select which of the two candidates is less likely to cause that little in-mouth vomit!

I'll be up there door-knocking for Shaheen/Obama again this weekend, but boy the locals sure don't like her. Even if she wins, we should have a better candidate ready for 2014.

newsinOH said...

lat,

They are indeed--but it's Cleveland. I can't emphasize enough how Democratic this county is. Now the final numbers will have more R votes because they'll mail in ballots and wander out to their comfy suburban polling stations, but clearly the Dem base is far more driven and far, far more numerous.

All O needed to do was sway enough of the southern OH voters so that the rest of the state doesn't cancel out the huge northern advantage. Every indication is that he's done that. Cincy will still go red, the far s.e. corner (by WV) will still be red, and a pocket near Defiance will be red, but there will be quite a bit of blue elsewhere in the state.

cora said...

LAT said...
news those numbers are staggering!


what numbers ?

Accidental Hippie said...

Aunt Karen,

Thanks. If it takes money away from McCain, then I'll click on the ad 30 times today. :)

NotYourBlog said...

Post faster please, falling asleep over here.

(Why must internet activity always drop on Fridays?)

markymark said...

Obama has enough in hand to win, but I think one or two states probably are concerning the campaign. PA is literally the Keystone in all of this, remembering that the way things stand McCain needs to win either PA or CO and VA. He holds onto Pennsylvanis, then it becomes virtually impossible for McCain to win looking at the polls from Virginia and Colorado.

I think we are seeing the strength of Obama's 50 (well not actually 50 but you know what I mean) strategy. I think Hillary would have had a 50% +1 strategy, and we would all be very very nervous right now. Obama has played a wider field and stretched the McCain camp beyond breaking point (especially with McCain's useless usage of surrogates), and is now reaping the rewards by having more routes to 270.

Pooji said...

@Bilbo Hussein Baggins

"Is this the first election where both candidates are left handed?"


Nope. All three in '92 (Bush, Clinton, Perot) were left-handed.

Aunt Karen said...

Racism in the very blue NE does nothing to help McCain, that's what I was trying to say. I live in a rather large neighborhood in Boston (Charlestown) where racism is alive and well. This was big Hillary country.

Some of those Hillarys are going to vote for Obama, but many of them are just not going to vote. There is not a high AA population in my neighborhood, some Latino (almost all from Central America), and some Asian.

I don't think my area is very different from others in this part of the country.

Real Joe said...

kittles93 said...
real joe,

what are your feelings on the race at this point? have they changed at all?


i was just going to answer dario

Kerry states + IA + NM + NV + CO = President Obama

+ VA is looking very good for Obama

+ FL,OH looking good for Obama

NC is moving to Obama

Obama is going to IA today to say thank you

tfitznc said...

Liddy Dole

FAILURE at the American Red Cross
FAILURE in the US Senate

and now

FAILURE as a decent human being

PorridgeGun said...
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shadowguidex said...

Pennsylvania. McCain hasn't lead a single solitary poll in Penn since April. I highly doubt 6 months of polls are suddenly all wrong and McCain wins Penn, particularly when Penn has voted democratic each of the last 4 election cycles.

dilguy said...

Key comment from Rasmussen:

"The tightening comes entirely from McCain solidifying his support. The Arizona Senator has reached the 47% mark on two of the past three days. Prior to that, he had not reached the 47% level of support in over a month.

However, while McCain has been solidifying support, Obama has not lost ground.This is the 36th straight day that Obama’s support has been between 50% and 52%.

LAT said...

again thanks news fro all the info on Oh. I just love that McCain thinks the JTP stunt is helping him there, my sense is the opposite.

Obama is not worried about PA. He has Bill doing some stumping there this weekend and the machinery of the dem party will gotv hard on tuesday. This is the key difference with the primary and people seem to forget that this is what won Hillary the primary, it locked in her advantage as it will do for O this time around. McCain does not have that so PA will go blue.

PorridgeGun said...

Nate doesn't really rate Strategic Vision. It's bias is pretty blatant.



Raspublican is getting a little too volatile. 5% over 3 days for McCain, to 2% swing back to Obama, then 1% for McCain. I was expecting +6 or at least no change. Those Zogby/Gallup-like swings.

KungFuGrip said...

Obama's infomercial wasn't about "revving up the base" or stirring up emotions. His base is already strongly behind him, as shown in the lack of movement in his line in the polls.

It was all about reassuring the 7-8% of the electorate that is still undecided or persuadable that Barack Obama is "just like you", shares your concerns, and has a plan to address them.

And I think he did a masterful job of it. The only question is whether the intended audience was watching.

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Real Joe said...

PA is going to stay blue

OTF said...

Anybody know what Rasmussen state polls are going to be released today?

Jeremy said...

@tfitznc: you can add failure with cosmetic surgery. Ouch!

Have you seen what she looks like? She's stretched so tight her ass itches every time she smiles.

InkStain said...

"Pennsylvania. McCain hasn't lead a single solitary poll in Penn since April. I highly doubt 6 months of polls are suddenly all wrong and McCain wins Penn, particularly when Penn has voted democratic each of the last 4 election cycles."

Ding. It shows you how absurdly desperate people are getting who don't want to admit the race is over (on either side).

It all comes down to McCain only being down 4 or 5 points in his best polling in a state he has never led, that traditionally goes Democratic.

And of course, he probably loses even with it, unless he sweeps a trio of other states he's trailing in.

G-Man said...

Jesse Helms invented the baiting attack ad, or at least turned it into an art form, right here in North Carolina.

And his former head man, Carter Wrenn, has called out Dole for the stupidity and classlessness of this ad, saying the next sound she hears may be the roof falling in on her.

Liddy must be getting senile frankly - this ad is so obviously way over the line and her insistent defense of it really just paints her as a delirious old woman.

markymark said...

shadowguidex,

All I think is happening is there is some evidence of tightening, the Obama camp knows that pretty much McCain can't win without Pennsylvania, so is going up to secure support and therefore the victory. noone needs to panic about it.

cora said...

PorridgeGun said...

Rasbublican tracker is getting a little too volatile. 5% over 3 days for McCain, to 2% swing back to Obama, then 1% for McCain. I was expecting +6 or at least no change.


All within acceptable statistic variance. Basically he is sayng that nothing is moving at all.

Buckeye said...

I am glad that the one guest told Joe Scarbrough that he was poll fishing for anything and that the fox poll was at best dubious (that Joe has been citing). Of course Joe angrily start overtalking the guest and saying ok just give the lection to Obama why have an election and all his other gibberish. I am so sick of Joe Scarbrough.

Badgerhair said...

I see that the McCain campaign first said that their crack GOTV troops would have to get out to the field on their own dime, but later revised it to on their own nickel.

So they're even being cheapskates about being cheapskates.

shadowguidex said...

God damn I just can't listen to Palin anymore. I mute the TV every time she's on speaking, and I'm beginning to mute conversations about her. I just want her to go away. DIAF, Palin!

LAT said...

McCain campaigning in AZ on Monday!
ha ha ha. This is so over. (via Politico)

Matt said...

@Bilbo
Left Handed Conspiracy Revealed

5 out of last 7 presidents left handed!

Brad said...

Joe Scarborough should be off his own show after the election. Maddow has the perfect personality for the morning if they have the guts to move her there.

Real Joe said...



http://www.electoral-vote.com

this day in 2004

Kerry 283 Bush 246

Obama 364 McCain 171 Ties 3

shadowguidex said...

"5 out of last 7 presidents left handed!"

There is a reasonable correlation between being left-handed and being a more reasoned thinker (not to be confused with intelligence).

markymark said...

On the Senate races, I think the 60 seat goal has never been set really by anyone realistically. I think if you look at the races left to get to 60, well its always been pretty damned hard.

Much as we'd like Chambliss to be booted out, or McConnell to be unseated, I would be highly surprised to see either happen.

Accidental Hippie said...

I am glad that the Ommercial showed on FOX. Usually, when FOX shows Obama, it's to talk about what a radical terrorist they think he is. You gotta love the sublte racism too. He had 30 unfiltered minutes with his infomercial. I think that was great for him.

Real Joe said...

lat said...
McCain campaigning in AZ on Monday!
ha ha ha. This is so over. (via Politico)


OMG !

now that's embarrassing

The Hipster said...

Dick Morris says that Joe the Plumber/redistribution of wealth is playing for young independent voters and the Rev. Wright ads will work with older voters. This will swing Florida, Ohio, NC, New Mexico, VA to McCain.
If this is true (which seems unlikely), does Obama still win?

Brad said...

NEW YORK (Updated Wednesday) We're in the homestretch! And the Obama-Biden ticket maintains its strong lead in the race for daily newspaper endorsements. The Democratic team now leads by 234 to 105, a better than 2-1 margin and an even wider spread in the circulation of those papers -- see full tally below as of today. The circulation of the Obama-backing papers stands at over 21 million, compared with McCain's 7 million.

Obama's lopsided margin, including most of the major papers that have decided so far, is in stark contrast to John Kerry barely edging George W. Bush in endorsements in 2004 by 213 to 205. Obama, with 231, has already easily topped Kerry's number with many more yet to be tallied.

At least 47 papers -- the most recent, the Cape Cod Times -- have now switched to Obama from Bush in 2004, with just four flipping to McCain (see separate story on our site). In addition, several top papers that went for Bush in 2004 have now chosen not to endorse this year, the latest being the Indianapolis Star in key swing state Indiana.

The Chicago Tribune endorsed Obama--the first Democrat that it has backed in its long history. Three of the top five dailies in deep red state Texas switched from Bush to Obama this time.

Please send any endorsements you see or make (that are not listed below) to: gmitchell@editorandpublisher.com.

shadowguidex said...

"Maddow has the perfect personality for the morning if they have the guts to move her there."

No way, mark my words - as soon as Obama gets in there, Maddow is going to be leading the left insurgence demanding more and more left-wing reforms that Obama won't be willing to make. I don't see her as a future ally of Obama, I see her as a far-left insurgent, long term.

I'm moderate-left, and I'm convinded she and others like her will demand a far too leftist agenda that Obama won't be willing to make. It will eventually be a huge problem...course right now, they all share a common enemy.

Accidental Hippie said...

Argh. SUBTLE.

Bede the Youthful said...

Obama expanding their ad buys: Arizona, North Dakota, Georgia!

GEORGIA!

Brad said...

When the Senate race started people looked at 55 at the top for dems, then 57, now they dream of 60. I think 57-58 is realistic top, but who knows...

shadowguidex said...

"Dick Morris says that Joe the Plumber/redistribution of wealth is playing for young independent voters and the Rev. Wright ads will work with older voters. This will swing Florida, Ohio, NC, New Mexico, VA to McCain.
If this is true (which seems unlikely), does Obama still win?"

Dude, with 4 days left, three of which are weekend days and one is Halloween, do you honestly think there is any chance of a late swing in perceptions?

Real Joe said...



Ben Smith:

Obama will advertise in Arizona

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe, on a conference call with reporters, says the campaign is expanding its ad buy into three states.

They're going back up on the air in Georgia and North Dakota, he said, with a negative spot picturing Bush and McCain in a rearview mirror.

Obama will go up with his positive closing ad in McCain's home state of Arizona, where McCain is reportedly planning to campaign on Monday.

markymark said...

accidental hippie,

I actually find it amazing how little the 'race card' has been called over some of the terrorist insinuations and stuff of that nature, because thats basically what it is, racism. If Obama was a white man then those insinuations would not stick, and like it or not, any white person who says they don't know enough about Obama to vote for him is saying 'he is too black'.

In a way its stuff the campaign can't say, but I am surprised that a Chris Matthews or a Keith Olberman or a Rachel Maddow for instance, hasn't made anything of it.

Brad said...

Agree on Maddow. I am moderate as well and I hope we need Olympia Snowe in the Senate and some moderate repubs to help filter the agenda.

I also think Maddow is sane, but who knows, she may not be, I don't listen to her radio show.

shadowguidex said...

"Obama expanding their ad buys: Arizona, North Dakota, Georgia!

GEORGIA!"

All it takes for those to flip is continued enthusiasm for Obama supporters, and the McCain followers to say fuck it, no point in voting. I'm actually willing to give Obama50-50 odds on Georgia, 40-60 odds on north Dakota, and 30-70 odds on Arizona. I would not be surprised, whatsoever, if Obama picks up any/all of those states.

Antmatic said...

GW Battleground
O-49
M-45 (-1)

Infomercial peeling off soft McCains?

PorridgeGun said...

Yeah, what's Obama doing in Iowa? He's back in Indiana, which is good, but I hope they're not losing focus. Biden and the missus are in Delaware, presumably as some sort of shout out to their peeps, then they're onto Ohio.



I don't know if it's the MSM, actually it probably is, but Biden has been marginalised, which is inexplicable because he's consistently delivered the best soundbites. You have to watch YouTube to hear him for more than 30 seconds on the campaign trail. Moosebrger wipes her arse and it's on the evening news.

markymark said...

Dick Morris knows like nothing, any prognoasitcation he makes turns out to be very wrong. He is the guy that pushed Clinton hard to the center, fair enough reasonable political strategy in some ways, but in a way that damaged the Democratic Party for a decade.

TBender said...

"sylili"
Describes the McCain campaign, no?

I'd take 57 -- just close enough to give the Democrats a reason to behave so 1994 doesn't happen again.

Flo said...

Dick Morris is a "dick" the name speaks... Don't be fooled by whatever he says... I remember he was saying that Hillary Clinton will be the dem nominee even after february... And than he after Obama got the nomination Dick was saying that Obama has no chance of beating McCain whatsoever... He now knows Obama is going to win, but he is just trying to give some hope to ignorant republicans, so they show up at the polls...

War Hussein Obama said...

I think Maddow is far left, but she is reasonable. Not some nutjob.

Gen Sherman said...

@porridge

BHO is coming back to MO. He will be here in Springfield Saturday night 9pm central.

The venue is Parkview HS and only holds 5K. I wondered why he picked such a small area, but then it is the OZARKS. Heart of the Republican party in MO.

Brad said...

This looks like a landlside for Obama, but there is enough poll movement in the polls I trust to worry me a little - we need more polls in PA, it all looks like it comes down to PA and lets face it, that is GREAT news for Obama...but what if it did flip?

War Hussein Obama said...

Antmatic said...
GW Battleground
O-49
M-45 (-1)

Infomercial peeling off soft McCains?


Maybe, but I wouldnt trust battleground as confirmation.

shadowguidex said...

The BEST thing for Obama to do it stick precisely to his campaign agenda, go no further, and wait till reelection time in 2012. If he goes too far with a left-wing agenda, it's a recipe for disaster and allowing the Republicans right back into the game. For further proof, see Jimmy Carter's 4 years - he battled with the hard-liberals in the congress and it ruined him.

Heather Nordquist said...

Hey everyone~

Well, despite the latest NM poll that shows Obama 17 points ahead, we are busy here in the Land of Enchantment.

My buddy from Los Alamos got an email to help out in Albuquerque, I am a poll clerk, my hubby will be a poll watcher at the same precinct. We are canvassing those that haven't voted today, tomorrow, Sunday and Monday.

NM is working hard to get those votes cast, and I am sure that Obama volunteers all over the country are doing the same.

If you can, get out there and help! If you are anywhere near a battleground state, just do it!!!

Heather

brooklynkevin said...

Nate, can you tell us what to expect from you on this blog on election night?

I know you will be with Dan Rather, but will you be giving us your blow-by-blow, state-by-state update? We really need you to do so, especially in regards to the house and senate seats.

I know, I know, we are a pretty demanding bunch. BTW, you're spot with Dan as excellent.

Thanks, Nate!

Zechaplunga said...

I'm surprised by the resistance to the idea that the race has tightened. it's clearly tightened a bit the past week or so.

The point is, for McCain to win, he's going to have to knock off about a point a day from now on.

It's not that that's impossible, but it's about as likely as Obama hitting 400 electoral votes.

putonci - Italian for eleven prostitutes

Pierre said...

@Brad:

If PA flips, I'll eat my shoe. I'll post the pic on picasa and link it here so that everyone can see me eating my shoe.

Flo said...

And then Dick Morris when McCain suspended the camp, said that Oh, It's a brilliant political move and McCain will benefit from it and win the election, and we all know what happened... He is ignorant...

Badgerhair said...

Over here in the UK, we don't get Olberman, Maddow, Scarborough and Matthews, which makes a lot of the comment here incomprehensible.

In fact, the only US news coverage I get to see is The Daily Show and the Colbert Report. Which of those has been the least biased, in your view?

markymark said...

Interestingly, and I know it was a different coalition in 1992, so not totally comparable, but the 1992 congressionals left the Democrats with some 58 Senators.

I think Obama is smart enough politically to learn from Clinton's mistakes mind, and I think some of the 1994 GOP sweep of congress was finishing off a realignment that made the south solidly red. So I don't think Obama faces the same issues, but I think he still needs to be sensible in managing legislation and issues over the next 2 years. (No fight over gays in the military right out of the gate for instance).

Raising one eyebrow said...

@Hipster-

Dick Morris is an assclown of the highest order. Feel free to automatically disregard everything that comes out of his mouth. I believe he was the one with the most hilarious fantasy electoral map of the season.

As for your question, though, even if Obama were to lose FL, OH, NC, NM and VA, which is absolutely not going to happen (NM and VA particularly are way out of McCain's reach now), he would still win with Kerry states+CO+IA+NV.

But I honestly believe that Obama is actually going to win all of those states, plus Georgia, Indiana, Montana and North Dakota. I also haven't given up hope on Missouri.

WV: broptf-Nancy Pfotenhauer's brother?

Brad said...

Carter didn't even realy negotiate with Congress...

If Obama follows through with repubs in hos cabinet that will be a real sign to far left that he is moderate. I think he will be a moderate, he has said all the right things to make me think he will run a moderate agaends with a couple leftie outliers in the right spots - like education.

shadowguidex said...

"The venue is Parkview HS and only holds 5K"

I'm just super grateful it isn't another nighttime outdoor event. If you're looking to put a candidate in seriously physical danger, put him outside at night, surrounded with heavy lighting. I hate hate hate seeing him in nighttime outdoor events.

jnorthrop said...

@ Badgerhair said...

"Over here in the UK, we don't get Olberman, Maddow, Scarborough and Matthews, which makes a lot of the comment here incomprehensible.

In fact, the only US news coverage I get to see is The Daily Show and the Colbert Report. Which of those has been the least biased, in your view?"

Both of those are comedy shows -- not news. And both are very biased towards the Democrats

PorridgeGun said...

Rather than campaign in Iowa, I reckon Obama should have been bold and hit Arizona. He has the polls to back him up, so it's doesn't look arrogant, and it would have dominated the news cycle. If McCain was within 4-7 pts in Illinois, you can be sure he'd be in there by now.

LAT said...

Take what Morris says make it the opposite that is what will happen

sorry brad---more polls out of PA? we have had TONS every day ALL with low double digits if high single digits. ALL with Obama around 53. That is all that matters. The idea that this is the one state is a fable constructed by McCain bought by the gullible media.

Heather Nordquist said...

@badgerhair

Daily Show and Colbert are just meant to be funny, not balanced. You can watch most of the MSNBC shows online. Scarborough was a GOP congressman, the others are really liberal. I would generally call CNN the most "middle" of all the networks. Maybe Campbell Brown or Larry King.

Nam Vet Joe From Jersey said...

Obama is left-handed....well that changes everything.

Dan said...

Wow a 96.3% chance of Obama winning?! That sounds really good Nate...

But with more poll participants expressing concern over Obama's readiness than any candidate since Dukakis, one has to wonder about a number like the above. 96.3%?... Really?...

Zechaplunga said...

Brad -
This looks like a landlside for Obama

_______________

It looks like 2 to 1 against a landslide, going by Nate's model.
________________

ogerske - giant language

Bilbo Hussein Baggins said...

Four Days!!!!

Four Days!!!!

Four Days!!!!


Dick Morris is a weasely slime that can be bought by the highest bidder.


I'm left handed, *hince*, I must be a reasoned thinker...lol

Badgerhair said...

Daily Show and Colbert are just meant to be funny, not balanced.

Really? I found out about this site from seeing Nate on Colbert.

But you are telling me Colbert shooting his audience members was a joke? It wasn't real? Nation, I'd never have guessed that.


And that's the word.

shadowguidex said...

"Daily Show and Colbert are just meant to be funny, not balanced.

Really? I found out about this site from seeing Nate on Colbert."

Sarcasm doesn't translate very well via blog - unless people are mindful enough when reading to pick up on it. Several here clearly didn't catch the original sarcasm regarding the bias of DS and CR.

Wake up people, if someone is asking if Daily Show is biased, you can probably assume there is some sarcasm involved.

Nam Vet Joe From Jersey said...

Don't think we need to worry where Obama is campaigning today---the strategy they have used so far has been pretty affective---I would not change a thing.

SP said...

Badgerhair, you get your "news" from Jon Stewart and Colbert? They're FAKE news for one thing, and totally on the D side of the equation. Doesn't BBC cover the US elections?

In other news, my SIL (in NJ) reported that she was grocery shopping and came upon a man and a woman having a really loud argument over the election. Lots of expletives flying in all directions, and she got the hell out of there before it got any worse.

Zechaplunga said...

badgerhair said:

Over here in the UK, we don't get Olberman, Maddow, Scarborough and Matthews, which makes a lot of the comment here incomprehensible.
__________________

You can see Olberman's spot online here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

I don't understand the popularity of the Daily Show. To me it's neither laugh-out-loud funny, nor very brave satirically. He gave Blair an incredibly easy ride, for instance. I agree with him about most things and he seems like a nice guy, but he's not that funny compared with a lot of US comedy. In fairness he does have to do a show every day i suppose.

tatervei - Yiddish lament upon burning the potatoes

andrew said...

There's a lot of anxiety on this board with only 5 days to go. What can you do? Even if you live in a non-battleground state, say CA or NY, you can still get involved:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/votercontact

The campaign will provide supporters in non-battleground states with a list of undecided voters in battleground states to call. With this tool, anyone can make a difference in the campaign. I think they start off assigning you just 30 phone numbers. Please send this to everyone you know, and consider helping out with this effort.

Brad said...

Two comments, Nate has landslide at 375 EV, I think anything over 350 is landslide territory.

Second, if Obama really think he can get AZ and GA this must be a landslide as those states were not anyone's real dem radar screeen (except maybe Rahm Emanuel). Yes, Obama was spending inthem early, but did anyone really think he could win them?

LEFTIES RULE!

Sarah Clark said...

"Dick Morris says that Joe the Plumber/redistribution of wealth is playing for young independent voters"

How many young voters make >250K a year? Or even >150K? And every young voter I know seems to think JtP is a bigger joke than Palin. Sorry Dick, not buying it.

mc9cain said...

Daily Show and Colbert are just meant to be funny, not balanced.

Well no that wouldn't be correct. Funny and truthful. Balanced in the MSM means half truths on both sides.

Lisa said...

@heather - CNN used to be liberal, than in the middle, now IMHO they are conservative leaning. Not as bad as Faux but definitely moving more conservative. Day late dollar short. Although AC360 is ok.

Speaking of PA, Tom Ridge predicts it's going to McCain:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/28/ridge.qanda/

I immediately thought... Hmmm he is longing to be back in Homeland Security so he could issue a few code oranges to scare up more Republican votes.

Brad said...

I only read fake news, the real stuff is just too depressing.

Brad said...

Good fake news!

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/struggling_lower_class

WASHINGTON—As election day nears, millions of the nation's poorest voters have reportedly yet to settle on the most profound and enduring way to completely fuck themselves over when they head to the polls this year.

"On the one hand, I'm pretty sure Barack Obama will undermine my best interests by maintaining the same centrist, pro-corporate policies of previous Democratic administrations," said Jim Estey, 34, a recently laid-off assembly-line worker. "Conversely, I agree with McCain and Palin on abortion, which might just balance out the fact that they'll further marginalize people like me by supporting deregulation and slashing social programs. So it's pretty much a toss-up at this point."

PorridgeGun said...

Joe Scarborough should be off his own show after the election


In the MSM you kinda fail upwards. That's why he's got his own morning show.


Joe Scarborough is officially the NEW Tucker Carlson. His primetime show on MSNBC got shitty ratings, at least compared to Olbermann, yet they still keep him around by giving him another show. I distinctly remember around the time the Scarcorous Country was about to get shit-canned he wasn't as big a douchebag he was during height of the Bush years. He even moderated his wingnuttery and even criticised the GOP. Now with job security and a forum to spout his ignorant bile, he's even nuttier than he was back in 2002-2005.

Accidental Hippie said...

Markymark,

I totally agree. It is painfully obvious that the terrorist and Muslim comments are a bit racist. FOX uses those terms to scare people since they can't be blatantly racist in the way they'd like.

SP said...

Speaking of PA, Tom Ridge predicts it's going to McCain

A. Old news

B. Only in his wildest dreams

Heather Nordquist said...

@badgerhair
I am on my first cup of coffee. Early here in the states. Plus doing about 5 things at once. How bout cutting me a little slack?

lucyp said...

From today's Baltimore Sun:

"We're still in this thing
And you thought nobody paid attention to blue, blue Maryland in the final days of the presidential campaign. The wonky electoral Web site FiveThirtyEight.com reported not one but two Baltimore-area references from a Barack Obama rally in Raleigh, N.C.

There was Sonja Sohn from The Wire, assuring the crowd that Obama would help people failed by all those Baltimore institutions they saw on the HBO series.

And there was former Dallas Mayor Ron Kirk, warning Obama supporters not to get too confident.

'Who was the most miserable person in the Olympics this year?" Kirk said. "It's the guy who thought he had the race won, and he lost by one one-hundredths of a second to Michael Phelps! We gotta be Michael Phelps!'"

Link: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-md.vozzella31oct31002027,0,3982788.column

Also, Baltimore had the highest ratings for the Obama infomercial. (We also had the highest ratings for one of the debates.)

Lisa said...

@SP - ORANGE ALERT!! - be afraid, be very afraid!

WV = tranin - how Biden getd to DC each day.

PorridgeGun said...

The moment CNN hired a right-wing loon like Glenn Beck they lost all credibility. His first couple of shows were notable for his sexist remarks against his female help and guests. People thought he'd last as long as Michael Savage on MSNBC.

Zechaplunga said...

Brad -

Fair enough if you're counting 350 as a landslide.

Can't see it though. Kerry + CO, IA, OH, VA. Maybe NV. That'll do.
______________________

ulables - things you can really wail about

Kennyb said...

tezro,

We do not have straight ticket voting in New Hampshire anymore. The Democratic leglislature got rid of it last year, just in time so it could not help them.

PorridgeGun said...

Of course, that was 2 years ago, and he's only gotten more despicable since then. And of course, he's now on FOX. replacing the insane John Gibson.