10:31 EDT: [Nate] Congratulations, President Obama.
10:30 EDT: [Sean] McCain's final answer was strong, but it was: "I'm a humble servant of America like a long line of McCains, so hire me." Obama's is about policies to grow the economy and the middle class. As Nate says...
10:26 EDT: [Sean] McCain keeps saying Palin's son has autism, but it's Down's Syndrome.
10:24 EDT: [Sean] John, Obama's wife is named "Michelle."
10:19 EDT: [Nate] McCain is treating this debate as though all the undecideds were Fox News viewers. Bet he'll win the Luntz focus group, though!
10:17 EDT: [Sean] Who's in charge of toweling off Roland Martin after this debate? He's hitting that button like he's fighting Mike Tyson at the end of Punch-Out.
10:15 EDT: [Sean] Obama's answer to Nancy Reagan: "Just say no to cavalier sexual behavior?"
10.15.2008
Say It to My Face Debate Liveblog #4
by Sean Quinn @ 10:15 PM
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I had pretty low expectations for this debate and thought it would just be a warmed-over rehash of the previous two, but I'm glad to say I was pleasantly surprised by it.
I thought Schieffer's questions were thought-provoking and required candidates to state their positions clearly and that the format actually allowed enough give and take for real debate.
I thought it was the most substantive and useful one of the campaign and really showed the contrast between the two options people have. Everything from policy, temperament, judgment, their vision of what's important and relevant to the American people and intangibles like body language were all on display here.
For my taste I'm Obama all the way, but there were issues on which I either agreed with JMc or at least got his point as a valid counterpoint to Obama's.
Given how crappy that could have been I thought it went really well. Kudos to the organizers, moderators and candidates.
side note: I need this election to happen already so I can get my life back. I'm wound up so tight wanting BHO to win that I fear I might just start leaking fluids once the results are clear on election night.
Did anyone else notice how John McCain used airquotes and was generally very dismissive while talking about women's "health". This was more than a cringe worthy moment for me. I don't think it's being talked about enough.
It's actually 53% for the next POTUS, and 22% for McCain:
Link to the final nail in McCain's electoral coffin
Bill Bennett is such an idiot...i love how the polls completely disgraced him...this election is OVA!!
JUSTIN:
I was skeptical about Bill Clinton as well, until I saw him last Sunday speaking at Virginia Commonwealth University. He was comfortable and advocating change, particularly Barack Obama. I won't say that he is 100% gun-ho... it is a tough loss to accept, but President Clinton played the role well and I was impressed by his speech. I'm sure there are links on YouTube.
AxmxZ said...
Autism, Down's Syndrome - a 'tard is a 'tard is a 'tard to Senator McCain.
I just choked on my drink. Well done.
In one sentence McGrampa discussed how McFalin would be an advocate for special needs children and in the next sentence he had a hissy fit when President Obama suggested we increase funding for research for autism. McGrampa = capital arsehole.
Nick Loucks:
I am not so sure you really were joking, since you tried to prove yourself by linking to an NIH study.
The thing is, women may be more emotive creatures, but what they bring to the table is undervalued anyway. What they have to offer is a positive thing and not a negative or irrational one.
Logic, justice, reason, these are our societies values, because Western philosophy is almost all male. But they aren't just logic, justice, or reason, they're very MALE logic, justice, and reason. Male philosophy asks questions like, 'Can I ever be truly giving or altruistic, since every kind thing I do results in some satisfaction for myself' and comes up with depressing answers that all human beings cannot truly be completely caring. The traditionally feminine thought process doesn't view things that way- since we're all interconnected, there's no judgment value placed on giving and taking. It's OK to get something out of giving. And so on and so on. Justice, reason, and logic themselves are defined subtly in male terms.
Frankly, female emotiveness, interest in connection with others, care and responsibility are LACKING in government, and we need MORE of it.
Obama was plenty logical, and McCain was illogical at times.
Women might be leaning Obama because they relate to his openness more than McCains tough talk and assumption of power. It's no surprise they support Obama on education and free choice, either- logically!
Women and people with different philosophies bring a ton of great contributions to the table. Obama is the new kind of person, not stuck in a 'male' or 'female' view, that we need. If he is elected, he and Michelle will represent possibly the first caring, sharing, equal, fully reciprocal couple in the White House.
-20 year old female for Obama
I think Sen. Obama has improved at these events so much since the primary season.
On second thought perhaps it is just the ineptness of his opponent. I know that I'm biased but I just don't think Sen. McCain has done a good job on any of the debates.
I recall those glasses of Daschle's from the *beginning* of the primary--I'm sure there's footage somewhere.
I can see it now. McCain reprsing Jack Nicholson and Obama taking on as Tom Cruise with some artistic liberty:
McCain:I lost? Is that what this is? I fucking lost? This is funny. That's what this is. This is...
[lunging at Obama]
McCain: ...I'm gonna rip the eyeballs out of your head and piss in your dead skull! You fucked with the wrong Marine!
McCain: [contemptuously] You fuckin' people... you have no idea how to defend a nation. All you did was weaken a country today,
Obama, that's all you did. You put people's lives in danger. Sweet dreams, son.
Obama:Don't call me son.I just kicked your ass in the debate. And you, you're cronies, and lobbyists are out of the white house you lying self serving son of a bitch!
Down Syndrome, now Down's Syndrome. Sorry, I'm a future special education teacher. And I agree that McCain obviously forgot what disability Palin's son has.
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