Last week, Julie Hensley made one of her thousands of phone calls on behalf of Barack Obama. A woman answered. As Hensley ran through her short script, the husband impatiently broke in.
"Ma'am, we're voting for the n***er." And hung up.
Hensley wasn't having it. "I went and made a couple other calls but chafed over this absurdity," she told us, "so I called them back, as I still had a couple questions for the wife." This time the man answered, asked pointedly who she was, and when she replied he hung up again.
We continue to hear stories like these in Appalachia. Big Stone Gap, where Barack Obama's southwesternmost field office in Virginia sits, gave us our latest version.
In Abingdon, where John McCain's Victory Center field office has been open nearly a month, we spoke with Don Carty, one of John McCain's U.S. Naval Academy '58 classmates. He strongly supported his fellow Middie in 2000, only to see "the ultraconservatives in the Republican Party (keep) him off the ticket."
Remembering the days when the "Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell crew" ignored McCain's offer to speak in this part of the state, Carty told us how he'd worked a booth at the county fair for a week prior to the Abingdon office opening where folks stopped in for bumper stickers and yard signs.
Noting that this was the most he'd ever seen people express interest in the Republican campaign since he'd moved to the area in 1993, Carty offered that it was precisely because the independent voters in the area identified with McCain's maverick argument. When Sarah Palin was added to the ticket, Carty thought to himself, "John McCain just won the election."
Two or three people a day drop in to make phone calls each day, Carty said, and the office was more involved with the state elections.
Another McCain volunteer, David Goldman, a native Englishman and resident of Dallas, Texas, gave us an interesting story. He'd contacted the campaign, asked where he could best volunteer, and on his own dime found his way to Abingdon, where he helps in the office every day.
"I have no political experience," Goldman emphasized, "but I was so frustrated, having grown up in socialist England, I just know what Obama's going to bring." Health care, and his view that Americans didn't understand how terrible the situation was in England, was his primary concern. Highlighting the long waits for doctor visits and expensive care in England, Goldman said, "I'm just tired of hearing about how great England's health care system is. People are dying because they're not getting that treatment."
Feeling compelled to help in any way he could, the middle-aged software salesman had been working since Sunday making phone calls, preparing canvass sheets, and doing whatever else he could to help. "It's just blocking and tackling."
"I don't mind Democrats or Republicans," Goldman said. "This is far left wing socialism." Since he'd been volunteering, more and more folks had dropped by the office, getting involved when they wouldn't normally do so, he observed.
Goldman isn't the only native European to apply sweat labor to the Battle for Virginia. Back in Charlottesville, we encountered Alex Englehard, a German from Heidelberg pursuing his legal degree and on break after his fifth-year exams. Englehard, a dedicated full-time Obama volunteer, said many Americans "don't realize how big an impact this one election has on the rest of the world."
He reported getting a few scattered complaints that a foreign citizen would get involved in American elections, but that they all came from people who told him they were supporting McCain. Nobody brought it up the day we tagged along.
Though Englehard speaks English fluently and has many direct connections to America, some cultural gaps remain, which one recent incident illustrated. Englehard and a canvass partner approached a door of a house where a racist bumper sticker adorned the car parked there. Englehard had seen the sticker; his partner hadn't. Englehard hadn't understood the bumper sticker's implication, and the two avoided a possible confrontation when the door went unanswered. On the way out, the partner noticed the sticker. "He gave me a good lesson on what to watch for," Englehard chuckled.
[UPDATE] Many queries. The bumper sticker said "If I'd known it'd be this much trouble, I'd have picked the cotton myself." You can see why this would go past a foreign citizen.
Mitch Stewart, Virginia State Director of Obama for America and one of the heroes of Iowa, told us in a sit-down interview that the Campaign for Change now boasted 49 offices in Virginia, with an additional 23 Virginia Coordinated Campaign party offices. 40 additional GOTV offices, not including the myriad GOTV staging locations clustered out from those offices, were already up and running.
One of the cultural inside baseball games of campaign staffs, especially one as data-driven as the Obama campaign, is that everywhere you go there's a competition for numbers. Regional field directors must beat other regional field directors for doors knocked. One state must beat another for voter contacts. Individual field organizers must beat others in their office for dials. The competition is friendly but fierce. It's a pride thing.
So when Stewart heard that his friend Jeremy Bird in Ohio had reported reaching 90% of his state's Neighborhood Team Leader goal, Stewart made sure to tell us that as of last Friday, Virginia's organizers had identified and trained 92% of its NTL goal. Your serve, J.B.
[UPDATE] Bird was happy to inform us that Ohio is now at 93% of its NTLs trained and tested. Sorry Stewart.
On a more serious note, Stewart talked about the success of the Iowa and the lessons the campaign had learned in developing its field program for the general election. "In Iowa," Stewart said, the question was, "will young voters under 30 and first time voters show up?" The answer was a resounding yes. "If you design a program and actively engage these voters" you can get the turnout you need, he said.
Strong Virginia voter files are complemented by Catalist, the sophisticated datamining tool Democrats have begun to use the past two cycles. Catalist fills in holes where the voter file isn't complete. As Chris Schoenewald told us on the Republican side, good localized voter databases are better than a modeling tool, no matter how predictive the tool is. Voter Vault and Catalist predict voter behavior. Voter files are actual records of party-to-voter contact.
Stewart told us that what the Obama campaign had done from the beginning of the race was more than traditional door to door and phone calls, more than just social networking, but "an extreme data acquisition" so that downstream the campaign could advertise and educate its potential voters. "It's all about education," said Stewart. Text messages and email addresses the campaign collected, for example, allowed the campaign to much more precisely aim its message as well as technical details like what to bring to the polls when voting, or where an individual's polling location was. Fundraising, of course, and pushing back against smear campaigns are included in this direct contact from the campaign.
Virginia saw 438,000 newly registered voters this cycle, in large part due to the same systematic, relentless outreach to under-registered potential Democratic voters. If Virginia goes blue for the first time in 44 years at the presidential level, it shouldn't be forgotten that this race was won upstream with that effort.
By chance, we ran into James Gibbs, National Director of Organizing for the United Mine Workers of America, in Obama's Big Stone Gap office. After President of the UMWA Cecil Roberts endorsed Obama, "the membership went wholeheartedly" for the Democrat. "We want health and safety in these mines," said Gibbs. For the UMWA membership, Gibbs said, Barack Obama was the clear choice, and the membership was actively canvassing and phonebanking in nearby Castlewood and St. Paul.
UMWA member Dennis R. Blagg, Sr. told us of his canvassing experiences in Big Stone Gap. Having knocked on at least 250 doors in the last two weeks, Blagg was "puzzled by some of the... slurs" aimed his way as he canvassed for Obama. Referring to the Republican ticket he viewed as responsible for fomenting racially harmful attitudes in his county, "they try to have scare tactics" to gin up division.
It was Joe Biden's visit two and a half weeks prior that spurred Blagg into action. Referring to McCain, "They talk about experience... that guy's had 26 years of experience. Why hasn't he used it?"
As for Hensley, her story ended with a twist. A couple hours later during a pause in her dials, her phone rang. She recognized the number. "This is going to be good," she remembers thinking, getting ready to scrap.
It was the husband. He was calling for the woman on whom he'd hung up. She then got something she didn't expect -- an apology. Calmly, Hensley told the man she'd accept his apology on one condition -- he had to tell her who he was voting for.
"Oh, I don't normally talk about it but I feel like I owe you," the man said. "I am voting for Senator Obama." He asked if Hensley would like to speak to his wife, as he'd interrupted the original call. Hensley mentioned that she had been surprised when he'd called to apologize. Apparently the husband and wife had been talking the entire couple hours since the original call. "Did she get upset with you?" Hensley asked.
"What do you think?" the man replied.
Eleven days.




285 comments
Great post!
Don't underestimate the high level of racism in VA and PA. Obama's ground game is incredible, but it will still be a bit of an uphill climb...
Fantastic piece. The "On the Road" pieces of sort of eclipsed the polling virtues of this site, imo. Great stuff.
Racism is a luxury.
keep it up. we all need to give some time to this election. we need Obama to win big as the republicans will certainly be able to tamper with the vote in a few states.
Did you guys see that NBC is going to move Virgina and Colorado to the lean Obama catagory?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14927.html
“We’re going to be, this weekend, moving Virginia and Colorado – two tossup states – into the ‘lean Obama’ category,” political director Chuck Todd told “NBC Nightly News” anchor Brian Williams from Chicago. “That moves his total to 286.”
This is great stuff.
Sean and Brett should be so proud of their reporting.
I hope that all of you are making big bucks from this effort.
At least as much as Sarah's makeup artist.
Obama's Senate Coattails
Debunking the Bradley Effect, Again
Has Zogbys came out yet?
Fantastic work as always.
What are you three going to do after the election?
Zogby 10-25
Obama 51.1
Mccain 41.6
Here is the link
http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1608
The "we're voting for the ni**er" stories are sounding awfully urban legend-y. It'd be awesome if true, but something just doesn't sit...
That was great. Now, for all you female Obama supporters who want to go above and beyond, go find yerself a "low-information", white, male racist, and marry him. You've got a little over a week to get the conversion :P
Racism is alive and well in every state
Even with the racism, the ticket should continue to forge ahead and supporters should forge ahead as well.
I think of the Jackie Robinson story often times during this campaign and what he endured. Barack's journey sort of parallel Jackie Robinson's story and being the first AA baseball player in the major leagues.
Sean and Brett should totally try to publish a book when the election's over.
A good write-up! "We're voting for the nigger" is becoming something of a meme. Since John McCain has "I'm Joe the Plumber," does this have the potential to be one of Obama's final campaign slogans? I wouldn't mind seeing a montage of friendly working-class white couples happily saying "We're voting for the nigger, and you can, too!"
^^^
OMG...that is so so so horribly bad but i could not help but falling on the floor and laughing.
I've been hearing a fair number of "racists for Obama" in the WV-OH-KY Tri State area.
Honestly, I bet RuPaul would get 45% in West Virginia right now based on things folks around here are saying about the economy.
RuPaul......LMAO
@ F master flex...
said....I wouldn't mind seeing a montage of friendly working-.
class white couples happily saying "We're voting for the nigger, and you can, too!"
Your statement is absolutely absurd.
WTF is that lame suggestion you offered up.
Great piece. It's great to be in Virginia I can tell y'all. These past five months have been a blast watching things explode from one office into about 20-30 staging points scattered all over. It's been an honor being part of this historic campaign.
I'll bet Ru Paul has spent less on his wardrobe in 20+ years as Ms Palin has spent in two weeks. And somebody told me he was straight. Is he?
Anyone else having trouble commenting tonight? :(
When are y'all coming to North Carolina? When you do, come over to Chapel Hill.
I dunno how long David Goldman has lived in the USA; I came here from London to work for a few months in 2005, and moved over for real earlier this year. I have no idea how he got so full of crud about the healthcare issue. I miss universal healthcare more than any other part of social/political structure back home. I guess David Goldman isn't among the 1/3rd of Americans who are on less than $10 an hour, basically. In which case he could buy private insurance if he lived in Europe...but he didn't, he moved to the US and whined about it instead.
The entitled sack of...
...really, I'm surprised how strongly I feel about that one comment. It is so. much. bull unless you have no idea what it's like being poor.
I came for the polls, but these articles are wonderful. Pictures are, of course, super.
g-night everybody.
i hope to wake up to more polls...
the first poll zogby for 10-25 as i said is Obama ahead by 9.5
I'm an old fart, but I remember the Hot Nuts coming down to Austin. I knew something was brewing up there in Chapel Hill!Chapel Hill is probably more like Austin was than Austin is now, so I'm not really that surprised about what's going on in NCA this year. Chapel Hill must be a great place!
@broberts,
Me too - that pic of the road at sunset is incredible, and the stories tell more than the numbers can ever show.
Eleven days. Eleven days.
@Chris James,
So, are we agreed that RuPaul is a more viable candidate than Ron Paul?
This site is my sanity. Thanks for another thoughtful, insightful post and the gorgeous pictures.
Between the numbers, analysis and the On the Road stories, it's "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the 2008 Election."
If Ron Paul can siphon enough votes from McCain in Montana for Obama to win, I'll take that any day. And believe me, Ron Paul WILL get votes in Montana!
If Ron Paul can siphon enough votes from McCain in Montana for Obama to win, I'll take that any day. And believe me, Ron Paul WILL get votes in Montana!
I find it sort of amusing when intelligent people say, "I know it looks awfully good for Obama right now, but we don't know what's going to happen. There is still a LOT of racism in this country".
No shit. And?
The polls are the polls. Among the 40+ percent that support McCain, a certain smaller subset of that number are - SURPRISE - the racists you're worried about!
Racists, by and large, are not answering poll questions by indicating support for Obama if they are racist. No "self-respecting" racist would be caught dead proclaiming support of a minority. He might DENY racism in the call. He might claim he supports McCain because he's a conservative and McCain represents his views.
For those worried about the so-called "Bradley Effect" - it's been pretty well debunked, and if it exists at all, it doesn't cover the type of lead that Obama possesses.
Quit worrying, go out and vote, and Obama will be the next president. I promise you.
Agree, Bradley Effect has been debunked. Racist will say they are not voting for Obama for various reasons. So it is reflected in the polls.
There is an anti-bradley effect.
People won't tell there other white friends "I'm voting for the n*****"
we won't find out until election day.
I don't think I'm voting for the n*****" is a bad thing.
I means, they are pissed off at both sides for calling and robo calling and lying and they know Obama is better, and they're trying to tell you to shut up and let them vote :-P
This is going to be a landslide. People my age don't see Obama for his race at all.
I've never posted a comment, but this piece was so beautifully written and illustrated that I couldn't be happy with hypothetical opprobrium.
With that said, you guys do great work, and I'd totally buy a book, too!
Jesse,
I often forget that Obama's even black. Once in a while when I'm reminded of it, I get literally goosebumps thinking of how fortunate I am to exist right now, that I might be a witness to Obama making US history as the first colored President.
WOW
Sorry, repasting from the last page of the prior thread, but everyone left :-(
Zogby internals are just way too volatile. For Obama to go from a 26 point lead to a 16 point lead among independents in one night makes no sense.
And I'm sorry, but McCain does NOT have "a slim lead among Jewish voters". That's almost IBD/TIPP-like in its absurdity.
So, I'm phoning for Obama in Florida, and I get this guy who uses the n-word plus every possible hateful meme of this campaign from Islam to 666. I told him he sounded very angry and that I felt badly for him. I also engaged him on some of the end times stuff--the idea that extreme right Christians want all the Jews in Israel in order to hasten the Second Coming, at which time they'll be slaughtered if they don't convert to Christianity (small print, gotta love it). His mind did a back flip and then he yelled "get outta my life!" I wondered how many women and children he had yelled those words to...
Very nice post..good job!
I live in a racist part of the country(Ozarks). They are not shy about it.
Myself and my four year old daughter went to our yearly car inspection. After spending four hours and eleven certified inspection places, no one wanted to pass my car. My wife (white) went early next morning to get the car inspected. Of course she gt it passed the first try. What was the difference? Hispanic male with his daughter ad same car, verses white female.
Incredible Pictures! I am impressed.
And the article was nice as well.
What is the feeling regarding McCains latest attempt, using Bidens "Barack will be tested" comments in his latest attack ad. Is this likely to resonate with voters and is there any indication it is impacting with soft Obama supporters?
I'm not in the US so hard to get a feel on how this is playing.
SEAN
wow, a long story tonight - but well worth the read.
we are getting it done down here in FL, one voter at a time.
John & Sarah are stumping hard this week here in central FL after Obama came through earlier in the week.
But today our little city [New Symrna Beach] got a visit from Jill Biden at the local women's club.
I went to represent. Lots of local activists, volunteers, women, seniors & union guys - hundreds crammed into the auditorium.
A diverse group did the warmup & intro. Senior white man started it off briefly, then an eloquent young black man[the 2 county field rep for Team Obama] spoke, then a blaxck preacher did a short invocation, then a young AA female school teacher introduced Jill who gave a nice energetic speech heavy on education, military & health - and the urgent need to GOTV in FL.
Jill Biden is an asset to this campaign - who knew ? she is so real, the lady is still teaching 4 days a week during this campaign then going out on the stump on long weekends like this [3 stops caravaning today down the east coast of FL from Daytona to Cocoa].
I got a chance to shake her hand afterwards & tell her how my mom & sister are both teachers & admire her alot. Jill said to thank them & to help make sure we elect Barack & Joe so they could work on improving education - the lady has skillz talking intelligently on her feet on the fly!!! no Sarah Palin...
A great local event that touched the people here directly - especially compared to how the McCain caravan went through the area yesterday... The entire event went off in & out in an hour - including the early arrival. worked out great !
I scored 2 nice Obama/Biden T-shirts & lots of swag like stickers & pamphlets to distribute. Got to also personally thank the county organizer [I am bad with names] & the young lady who did the intro for all the good work they were doing. The teacher was in her 1st year where FL teachers make no money - but she was still volunteering her time to the campaign too.
When I went back to my car parked several blocks away due to the crowd, I got to see Jill again as they were boarding the campaign bus sponsored by the Painters Union & decked out with a bold custom paint job in Black & Gold 'Obama/Biden' & the painter's union logo too. It pulled away to get down to the Cocoa event on time.
But as I opened my car door a block further away by the river in this old historic downtown area, 2 elderly folk were walking past me giving me the 'eye'. I had on my new OBAMA/Biden 'It's About Us' T-shirt. I though they might be GOPers - then I heard the lady say "I wanted one of those T-shirts for my husband - but they were out of his size".
DAMM... she sounded so let down. So I bit, and asked her "what size did you need?" she said an XL... I had picked up an extra T-shirt in XL to give to a friend.
I asked her if she would like it for her husband - she did not answer... instead she jumped off the sidewalk walked right through a large puddle of rainwater & stormed at me [I was on the drivers side by the door getting into my car]. Turns out she wanted it BAD !
But before I agreed to give up that swag [a good looking shirt], I made her promise to get her husband to wear it & put it to good use. She promised he would wear it out in public night & day until the election. She lives beachside [I live on the mainland] so it was a deal.
Then I saw her eyeing my sheet of new Obama stickers with his image in 3 differnet designs. So I offerred her half the sheet of 12 to pass out in her neighborhood if she told me her story.
Turns out she was a GOP [must have been 65-70 y/o] but had enough of Bush & his crowd & now was solid for Obama & Kosmas [our DEM candidate to replace Tom Feeney]. Same for her husband at home.
That got her a hug too. Then her male companion told me he was also a reformed GOP [he was at least 65-70 too] and was not only voting for Obama & Kosmas - but he was doing volunteer phone banking at the local DEM HQ on Canal St in NSB !!!
He was hoping I would take the shirt off my back [literally] butr I couldn't part with it... However, he shared with me a great GOTV story.
Most of his calls are to people who ID as GOP in this area - but he doesn't try to sell them on Obama & the DEMs. He just listens to them as they tell him sad stories about how unhappy they are having voted for Bush & Feeney & that crowd. After awhile, they sell themselves & become Obama supporters [privately]. Also endless stories about how we all 'come out' as Obama supporters in our neighborhoods that are supposedly hotbeds of the GOP - only to find lots of hidden supporters or persuadables jsut waiting to find the right reason & excuse to swing over to the BLUE side.
Now my neighborhood wants all the stuff I brought back today - plus my absentee ballot arrived in the mail so I can vote early. The lines at the local poll are still 2 hour waits all week - and today they waited IN THE RAIN !!!
a great day in FL -come down here soon & document what is going on as FL goes BLUE !
[sorry this is long, but I felt like sharing]
@rain33
Obama closed the sale in the second debate. In order for an ad like this to work there has to be some plausibility to it and this late in the game I think people pretty much have their minds made up about the character of Obama. Also, I doubt McCain have enough money to get through the Obama chatter.
Thai - I don't even think about race. I just hear what he says. He is someone I could talk to for hours about economics. He is as smart as my economics professors or probably more so.
I know exactly what his plans are. All economists even the so called "neo-conservative" ones would agree with it. Unfortunately, some of the most well known ones (outside of us economists) have died and can't speak up anymore.
I think that Obama will bring a time of economic stability like what I am told there was in the late 50s to early 60s but this one will be accepting socially.
One thing that bothers me is that Obama keeps asking me to go "all in" for him now because I gave him a large donation.
If he were willing to personally email me I would consider it. He has more than enough money.
I guess since I am in California and do not have the time to visit other states I will not be meeting him. I give him more money than someone my age would logically give, but then I eat out less.
Biden's comment was dumb. But the assumption that the commercials are making is that McCain is somehow "ready" for any situation. Which is garbage. He was a Dubya cheerleader to get us into Iraq. If he's the POTUS, he'll declare war if someone steals his metamucil.
Biden's comment was accurate.
John McCain would have been tested too, and failed.
He's basically telling the baby boomers that Obama is Kennedy. He should be evoking quotes from Eisenhower about Social Security and the military-industrial complex. Those are quotes that many of us had up online in 2003
Rain33,
I think by now that kind of attack is old and desperate, and the American people are seeing it that way. By now, most people have already decided that they're more worried about the economy, especially since the stocks are on a hell of a roller coaster, and make it into the daily news.
INDIANA
Mac is the old man who shouts, "GET OFF MY LAWN !"
give him commander in chief & put his finger on the button, ol' John will nuke 'em all starting with the N. Koreans & Iranians...
just ask Cindy about that temper
dcm in florida:
Excellent post.
I worry about FL, after Palin got that big crowd of seniors at the Villages(is that right?) a month ago. The polls are too close for my comfort.
Thanks for doing all you can to make FL blue.
Here is Eisenhower's leaving speech.
Listen to how different things were... I mean read.
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html
Basically, he was warning us against people like Bush and McCain.
Another amazing piece, Sean. You're getting closer and closer to me now. We can't wait till you get to NC! <3
What's the blog equivalent for Pulitzer or Peabody? There should be one; you should be up for one.
John Zogby wants us to know....
"What's important here is that this race is not over.
I detest him, I really do.
Because tomorrow, you know it'll be a little closer and he'll say something along the lines of...
"Something is happening here"
"If that trend continues, it is something that has got to raise red flags for Obama”
He just loves to do that!
I hate him
MADDY
that 'crowd' in the Villages was exaggerated by all independent accounts
but that is a GOP area, and she was a curiosity
on a slow weekend, what else did they have to do except drive down on their golf carts to take a gander ?
the bloom is off that rose
as a matter of fact, Sarah is back thisa weekend - but she is dragging along Elisabeth Hasselbeck [?] to try to draw bigger crowds & more buzz
another move that will backfire with the INDs & swings IMHO
the AA vote in FL is gonna be HUGE & unprecedented from the looks of things here so far
that along with higher youth/ college/cellphone demos should push Obama/Biden safely over the top unless the voter suppression the GOPers are using is successful
but that is not gonna happen this time
Rain33
See Brian William's latest interview with McCain and Palin on MSNBC. William's had a gotcha moment for both, basically stating that Biden said same thing Lieberman had. Further nailing McCain down, William's reiterated that he didn't see any difference between Biden's comment and Lieberman's, at which point McCain started blustering crap. Biden's comment to me is non-story, but McCain's gasping campaign is desperate to run with anything. I don't think Biden's comment was idiotic in any way...frankly, I think Biden's a freakin' breath of fresh air.
DCM, I loved your long post. Thanks for writing it all down. Every little bit helps.
On Friday, here in northern Wyoming we had a Rally for Change to promote registering and voting. I live in one of the most Republican counties in a very Republican state. There were 60 of us out there at noon today and the support from those passing by was quite surprising. The disgust of some of the drivers was pure gold though.
A few people today told us about canvassing in Montana and how organized the Obama campaign is. They go into a neighborhood and only visit the houses where there is an undecided or leaning Obama vote. Very efficient and I think this effort across the state will push Montana blue.
people seem to be skeptical of the "voting for the n#%$@*r" stories
I believe it, and it is happenning here in FL too
the crackers are rationalizing their votes AGAINST the GOP by saying out loud that they will vote for the "black [or colored] guy - because he is half white after all"
and "he's gotta be better than that old grumpy guy and the last 8 years with that Bush Motherf&%#@r"
I have heard that for myself, and I say whatever works !!!
maybe they have been hearing to too much hard-core hip-hop ?
BTW - at the Jill Biden event today, between speakers they played Kanye West's 'Testify'
I squirmed a bit at first since it was a little bit 'edgy' for that crowd today - but no one else seemed to mind !!! The crowd was buzzing...
Then they played softer non-lyrical muzak which was probably a better choice...
Mr. Marty, sir,
Your photography is excellent---very evocative. Thank you.
I don't get it. The guy says in the very beginning, "ma'am we're voting for the n***er." Did the writer of the article forget to put a not in this sentence?
PDB
thanks, and good for you & all those who make the effort to get out there in states like MT & for heavens sake WY !!!
it is hard enough here in FL !
all the best to all of you people who put it all out - on both sides of the aisle as long as they are playing it fair
the partisan sniping from the church pulpits & hatred & race-baiting is another story - a shamefull one I fear
David Goldman either lived in the US so long he forgot the benefits of the National Health Service, or he's lying. The NHS has its faults, but it's for everybody. It saved my life. Since I've been diagnosed diabetic, I've had everything I need. In the USA, my retirement savings would have been eaten up by meds costs. And no, I couldn't have got health insurance in the US, because either my premiums would have been way high because of my 4-generation family history of this condition, or I'd have lied and the insurance company would have refused to pay up because I didn't disclose my family history.
Rich folks in the UK (like Goldman?) can anyway top up with private health insurance - what's his problem? The NHS is a source of huge pride to everyone here for all its faults - Tories have to spend every election denying they'd ever dismantle it.
Nail these lies. The US scores poorly on one measure of civilisation compared to Japan and Europe - average ages at death - because so many of your poor die younger. You can fix this!
HORATIO
the moral of the story is that even some racists & bigots are voting for Obama...
@Timothy -
It's just statistical noise. Ignore it. Subsamples are tiny (even independent voters) and so have really bad statistical variation from sample to sample. In this case, you're talking about variations between two samples of 400 (the one that rolled on and the one that rolled off). At 30%, that's 120 people, which is a huge margin of error.
New Colorado Poll
Obama 52%
McCain 40%
Previous August poll McCain up 3%
@
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/24/rockycbs4-poll-obama-has-12-point-lead-state/
Hey All~
dmc in FL -- Great work!! Please turn FL blue for us. Pleeeaaase!
I have a cute GOTV story in NM. I was driving home on Thursday from work. The Straight Talk Express was parked at a local gas station (mind you, this is really in the middle of nowhere NM between Santa Fe and Los Alamos). I needed to buy some sodas, so I went in. The bus did not have an entourage, just a driver, so he must have been heading out to pick up the Mavericks. The two young people working the desk began to complain as I was making my purchase about that "McCain bus" being there for so long. I handed out a slew of Obama stickers and reminded them to early vote. Felt really good. I hope that driver stumbled upon my efforts before he left.
Loving that CO poll!!! WOOT WOOT!
HEATHER
way to work it on the ground in NM !
every little bit helps
here in FL yesterday, Mac had a fleet of 4 buses - but minimalimpact as it was all over-scripted & controled to death
all about tom the plumbers & bob the boob.. local yokels that come off looking goofy at best
Echoing the impressed commenters above me - I love nothing more than these personal stories from the road, Sean. You're a fantastic writer. Someone above said you and Brett should try to write a book - I absolutely agree! The world needs to read the story about how the little people fought tooth and nail for this historic victory.
Eleven days! :)
WAIT ... sorry to have to ask, but what did the bumper sticker say? I'm curious since Englehard didn't 'get' the contextual meaning of the wording.
SORRY. Gave out Obama 08 Obama/Biden 08 and Latinos for Obama stickers.
Thanks, dcm, you keep up the work there too. Tomorrow will be a day of canvassing until about 3PM, then a road trip to Albuquerque to see Barack tomorrow night. This will be my second time. It is nice to live in a battleground state.
JOE
well, one of Brett's photos above shows an NRA bumper sticker on a pickup rear window- but not sure it is overtly racist
otherwise, I guess we have to use our imaginations
Oh, you are talking about the one in the story. My bad. Way past my bedtime, joecub
@joecub2008
Maybe its not fit for repeating?
HEATHER
every time Barack comes to central FL I am either out of state or cannot make it to the event...
I had to miss the big rally in O-Town with Hiallry on Monday
I swear when he comes here next week [I assume he will be back at least once more], I will sure try to see him live
wish I was close to NM...
I luv Sante Fe & Taos btw
DCM, whatever we are doing in WY is building for the future. We are hoping to get Obama/Biden to 40% this year and then try to add 5% each four years? With the number of people moving into the state it should go more blue. Attrition will also help that some too. The ultimate goal is the get Trauner elected as the representative. That's right folks, we only have one.
I would be interested to see what this Colorado poll does to the color of Montana. I am not sure how Nate's model connects them, but in my opinion the western slope of Colorado and the eastern plains (not along the populated Front Range) is very similar to those same areas in Wyoming and Montana. The population centers also match up since some are more liberal or more conservative.
This is a great website because it carries the unmatched bookends of unparalleled statistical analysis and then the reports from the field. And best of all it lets other sites and cable tv handle the theatrics of the campaign: the gaffes, the money, and all the hot air generated by the pundits.
Today's dispatch was top rate.
build a base for the future is good
we cannot let this be a one shot deal & be satisfied with a victory or it will be fleeting
that is a problem here in FL
the GOP has an entrenched machine in place while the DEMs have been in disarray - so they get played even though they have the populist support on the issues
hopefully the GOTV effort & coordinating efforts will be carried forward to the mid-term elections & beyond to build a BLUE future for FL right up through the statehouse
besides the statehouses & legislatures are extremely important for the census & apportionment coming up real soon !
Awww. I do love NM. He was here about a month ago in Espanola. I live north of Santa Fe, and work in Los Alamos. He will hit FL before Nov. 4th, I'm sure. It is quite something to see him.
Espanola is a small Latino town (you probably know this if you've been to Taos). There were 10,000 people at the rally, so we doubled the size of the town in one day.
In December I move to Vienna, Austria. Call it a just-in-case-McCain-wins strategy. JK. I have a job there for the IAEA. It has been nice to know that I could avoid the entire McCain presidency though.
Great piece, Sean. Nice way to end the day.
HEATHER
good luck in Austria. represent the 'new america' era that POTUS Obama will hopefully help usher in & salvage our national goodwill & restore our standing in the court of world opinion
@dcm in fl
I am looking forward to it. Since Bush, the folks in Vienna tend to think Americans are a bit nuts. I hardly have a counterargument for that point.
Keep up the good work. If I am to be coherent at all for canvassing in the morning, I need to get to bed.
I have some contact with the Canadian health care system since my wife is dual US/Canadian, born in Toronto. All her family is still in Canada.
Their experience with the system is good. Yes, there are times when things don't work as well as you would like, but that happens here even with insurance coverage.
As an example, her uncle lives way north of Toronto and needed an MRI. To get one quickly he had to go to near Montreal. Some of that was because his condition was not life threatening and the nearby MRIs were booked for "casual" use for a couple of months.
My wife and her mother did a tour of east coast Canada a couple years ago. Her mother got a stomach ailment from seafood. They did their tour but also stopped about every other day in an ER. No hassle or payments for all of those stops.
Brett -- the shots on this post are amazing! I really liked the Obama poster through the window. It's a really ethereal effect.
Simply, wow. Sean, that was a great post. So vivid man. Thanks.
Li said...
Racism is a luxury.
Hmm. Interesting. I never thought of it that way.
As a person living in socialist England, I'd like to say that the bloke quoted in the piece is an *idiot*. There is a reason that no mainstream politician in Britain would ever dream of speaking against the National Health Service, and that the charge of undermining it is a powerful one (when aimed, as it has been recently, at some Conservatives when they seek to promote private healthcare). The reason is that the NHS, for all its faults, is simply essential. If people don't like it, they can go private. If they can't afford to go private, they don't have to, and they will get healthcare. If Obama were really going to bring such a system to the USA, he would deserve to be president for four terms.
The baffling part, of course, is that Obama isn't going to bring such a system to the USA, but merely seek to make private healthcare more affordable. I don't understand why Americans think that this is socialism. I don't understand why "socialism" is a negative word in America either, but that's a different matter.
In short, please don't think that bloke's comments are typical of Britain - as you can see when you remember that in Britain, as in most countries, Obama is far more popular than McCain. There's even an ad campaign on the Tube in London, involving a series of slightly odd-looking pictures; one of them shows Obama waving and smiling in front of the door of No 10 Downing Street, as if he had just become prime minister. Most people like that idea, impossible though it may be.
Bush Administration Buries Regulations for Appalachian Mountain-Top Strip Miners
Too bad Appalachians don't want Obama's liberal environmental policies.
Mining Agency Buries Streams and Science
The Office of Surface Mining (OSM) proposed to eliminate a key rule that protects Appalachian streams and communities from a coal-mining technique known as mountaintop removal mining. The Office intends to replace the rule with a regulation that streamlines the approval process for coal mining permits.1 This marks OSM's second attempt in five years to scale back restrictions on the Appalachian coal industry, distorting scientific procedures for assessing environmental impacts in the process.
http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/abuses_of_science/mining-agency-buries-streams.html
Environmental Impact Statement, OSM-EIS-34: Excess Spoil Minimization - Stream
Public Comment:
http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocumentDetail&d=OSM-2007-0008-0553
"broberts said...
@rain33
Obama closed the sale in the second debate. In order for an ad like this to work there has to be some plausibility to it and this late in the game I think people pretty much have their minds made up about the character of Obama. Also, I doubt McCain have enough money to get through the Obama chatter."
Not only that, but I think McCain's biggest weakness in this instance was a complete lack of a plan of attack. They have moved from argument to argument and the more they go on the more desperate they look. I would venture to guess that the only people that might possibly be swayed by this ad are the ones that were begging for a reason to vote against Obama in the first place. I just can't see how this ad sways anyone from Obama to McCain and that's what he needs at this point. Even claiming every undecided out there won't save his chances at this point.
". . . as if he had just become prime minister. Most people like that idea, impossible though it may be."
If you believe some in the rabid anti-Obama camp perhaps it's not as impossible as you think. As stunningly silly as it sounds, there are those who believe he was born in Kenya (hence not qualified to run for POTUS). Kenya was a British colony at the time.
JonathanCR you are absolutely right. Obama is just going to make healthcare affordable. You can still go without it if you want.
I am convinced that the term "socialism" is being abused here in the USA. Certainly not by democrats, and not by republican's who are in the know. I bet even McCain knows that this is NOT socialism. Palin, I'm not too sure.
The problem is, that here in America we have republican party leaders that are controlled by the far right and spend all of their time demonizing the democrats while they, the republican leaders, abuse their power and make themselves rich while keeping their supporters "scared" of everything. They are scared of Muslims, Gays, ethnic people, the list goes on and on. And now the new fear is Socialists. I bet they don't even know what that is! Thankfully, not all republicans fall for this shit, just enough to cause a stir.
Sean,
Having lived, worked, and hiked Appalachia, I can confirm Senator Murtha's premise that rural Pennsylvania has racist tendencies. They're completely shameless about it. And I'm from Alabama. IT WILL BE A FACTOR.
Davy said...
"Sean,
Having lived, worked, and hiked Appalachia, I can confirm Senator Murtha's premise that rural Pennsylvania has racist tendencies. They're completely shameless about it. And I'm from Alabama. IT WILL BE A FACTOR."
Of course racism is a factor. However, those racists that won't vote Obama are flat out saying they won't. That means that the polls are fairly accurate and Obama is leading anyways. And that's assuming they'll even bother TO vote.
No idea how bad the situation is in socialist England?
WTF is this guy on? The healthcare that I and my family have received is amazing. The professionals who help you are fantastic. My wife just gave birth - think how much that would cost in the US. The midwives are exmplary and the facilities second to none. You'd have to be completely insane to prefer a system where you only got helped for profit.
@rick
I hope you're right. Perhaps Pennsylvania won't be critical for a win. I'll settle for FLA, OH, VA, NC, CO, and NV. Obama only needs to win by one vote but I'd prefer a comfortable margin of error.
Davy said...
"@rick
I hope you're right. Perhaps Pennsylvania won't be critical for a win. I'll settle for FLA, OH, VA, NC, CO, and NV. Obama only needs to win by one vote but I'd prefer a comfortable margin of error."
The rural and racist areas of PA won't have anywhere near the needed votes to take over the urban areas. Obama has been polling anywhere from 5-12 up in PA and the low ballers have usually been Republican leaning pollers. I wouldn't worry. Ohio is also now looking to be 5+ points if you want to go conservative, I'd say 8 might be closer to the truth and Georgia and NC are likely to flip. This won't be a close one on election day.
Davy said...
"@rick
I hope you're right. Perhaps Pennsylvania won't be critical for a win. I'll settle for FLA, OH, VA, NC, CO, and NV. Obama only needs to win by one vote but I'd prefer a comfortable margin of error."
The rural and racist areas of PA won't have anywhere near the needed votes to take over the urban areas. Obama has been polling anywhere from 5-12 up in PA and the low ballers have usually been Republican leaning pollers. I wouldn't worry. Ohio is also now looking to be 5+ points if you want to go conservative, I'd say 8 might be closer to the truth and Georgia and NC are likely to flip. This won't be a close one on election day.
Hey y'all,
Have you seen this Ron Howard clip? Kinda cute.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/cc65ed650d
PA Morning Call Tracker
52-41 Obama
PA John said...
"PA Morning Call Tracker
52-41 Obama"
Morning John. Could you please calm down the folks that feel PA might go Rep somehow?
Blues' Legace suffers hip injury after tripping on carpet for Palin
Ouch..
Amazing news on Intrade...
McCain is FINALLY out of the teens!
He's now at 12.8.
PA John said...
"Blues' Legace suffers hip injury after tripping on carpet for Palin
Ouch.."
LOL, that should turn a few hockey fan votes against her.
Jonathan CR,
I believe socialist in the US is a negative term because it was flagged by communist coldwar era states. USSR is just one such case. Many Americans think politics is about giving effective soundbites (Obama socialist), there is a profound mistrust of in depth analysis. Having visited the UK often I surely perfectly know that European health care systems are part of welfare policies and are viewed neutrally in terms of socialism. Overall we tend to despise federall spending never really discussing our military spending, it is allmost dangerous to bring it up. But we are also a Federal nation, so healthcare policies do differ state by state. And there are examples of "socialism" being enacted. Not even Obama dares to question the essence of our hc which is based on private insurance industry who's main goal is profit (which I consider perfectly natural for private industry). I have the gut feeling that if the economic crisis hits the insurance sector heavily then and only then will we see the whole hc system questioned. It has happened now with banks and it has been quite an ideological shock for the extremist derugulators. So even healthcare could, via insurance defults, open gates to pubblic intervention.
PA is safe. 11 points? maybe not at the end, but still safe. I remember Bob Casey Jr. was beating Santorum in the polls by 11-13 points 2 years ago, and toward the end we heard a lot of noise about how Santorum was really closer...Casey ended up winning in a monumental blowout.
If you have followed the Obama campaign then you know they rarely make grand statements - but when they do, they've always been right. Well, here is what Dave Plouffe thinks about PA.
We can be confident, but not arrogant about PA. Ten strong days - we will seal the deal.
Sean,Brett,
your "On the Road" reports are always good stuff,but this one,including that picture of the road at sunset,is a masterpiece.
10 days left...you know I am almost sad that from 5th november on your "on the road" series will end.
please guests,don't check my spell,cause I am not American,so I am forgiven.
:)
cora said...
Having visited the UK often I surely perfectly know that European health care systems are part of welfare policies and are viewed neutrally in terms of socialism.
October 25, 2008 4:46 AM
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Exactly,it work -/+ the same in whole Europe.
health care, welfare, unemployment assistance, school, kindergarten, are mostly public.
Are we socialist ??
Don't think so:
Gordon Brown, Sarkozy, Merkel are far from it ??
Are we dangerous??
I don't think either.
Sorry for this "game change", better I leave you to stay focused on election.
After you will elect Obama as president I Hope we can meet in this site again and re-start to talk about the entire world as matter of sisters and brothers.
:)
cora said...
"Jonathan CR,
I believe socialist in the US is a negative term because it was flagged by communist coldwar era states. USSR is just one such case. Many Americans think politics is about giving effective soundbites (Obama socialist), there is a profound mistrust of in depth analysis. Having visited the UK often I surely perfectly know that European health care systems are part of welfare policies and are viewed neutrally in terms of socialism. Overall we tend to despise federall spending never really discussing our military spending, it is allmost dangerous to bring it up. But we are also a Federal nation, so healthcare policies do differ state by state. And there are examples of "socialism" being enacted. Not even Obama dares to question the essence of our hc which is based on private insurance industry who's main goal is profit (which I consider perfectly natural for private industry). I have the gut feeling that if the economic crisis hits the insurance sector heavily then and only then will we see the whole hc system questioned. It has happened now with banks and it has been quite an ideological shock for the extremist derugulators. So even healthcare could, via insurance defults, open gates to pubblic intervention."
Most of the analysis above I'll agree with you on. Though I think that the sting of "socialist" is lost on the younger folks as a whole.
As for HC and other issues, while I'm not trying to argue they should be wholey socialized and become government agencies. However, what really is needed is more federal level regulations across many industries. Look at the ways that some groups, particularly Republicans in several states such as Florida are abusing HAVA to restrict early voting and trying to block demographics that typically are not kind to them in the voting booth. Corporation laws that encourage most corporations to technically form and hold an office in 2-3 states with favorable laws though they can then have offices anywhere else and still use the more favorable laws.
The same would occur if we went with McCain's HC plan that would allow buyers to buy across state lines. This would initially allow for buying the lowest cost plans, but over a fairly short amount of time you'd again find all of the HC providers clustered in 2-3 favorable states where the laws favored them over the average consumers.
As I said, in situations such as this I think we need more consistant guidelines across the states and that means we need it done at the federal level. We also need voting laws to be stricter so that party affiliated members cannot attempt to abuse the system as a whole to their benefit as some currently are.
To me, the "I'm voting for the ni##er" comments are very plausible. It seems to me that these people are trying to say that even though they are voting for Obama they are still defiantly racists, proud enough to shout the n word in your face. Their vote for Obama does not mean a betrayal of their core "values" (for lack of a better word).
Dominic said...
To me, the "I'm voting for the ni##er" comments are very plausible. It seems to me that these people are trying to say that even though they are voting for Obama they are still defiantly racists, proud enough to shout the n word in your face. Their vote for Obama does not mean a betrayal of their core "values" (for lack of a better word).
October 25, 2008 5:23 AM
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Probably I am pissing against the wind but, just a thought:
couldn't be possible that those people just overcame the racial meaning of that word and just using it addressing Obama as sort of confidential friendly word ??
The pumpkin patch picture reminded me of this: http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2008-10-23.gif
yashida is a genius!
visitor_xxx said...
"Dominic said...
To me, the "I'm voting for the ni##er" comments are very plausible. It seems to me that these people are trying to say that even though they are voting for Obama they are still defiantly racists, proud enough to shout the n word in your face. Their vote for Obama does not mean a betrayal of their core "values" (for lack of a better word).
October 25, 2008 5:23 AM
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Probably I am pissing against the wind but, just a thought:
couldn't be possible that those people just overcame the racial meaning of that word and just using it addressing Obama as sort of confidential friendly word ??"
Deffinately not a friendly word no matter what way you say it. I've got an uncle in North Carolina that has tossed it about a few times. He works in a factory with many African Americans and he sees in those people the qualities he's looking for due to his conditioning. Since he sees what he expects it keeps his expectations there. I've often heard him rant about how lazy they are, etc. However, I have no doubt that he can work along side them without a problem, he just complains at home. I also wouldn't be surprised that there are some who he gets along with well, so long as they don't fall into the stereotype he's looking for. And quite frankly, Obama doesn't hit the prejudiced stereotypes.
That's not to say there aren't still many that won't vote for him, just as there are many I know who are deeply conservative and won't vote for him as he's too "liberal". I know that mindset well too. However, I anticipate that the "Bradley effect" is goinng to shortly become renamed the "Palin effect". Too many republicans that are staunch republicans and would never dare admit that they'd even concider voting for a Democrate are going to anyways though they'd never tell a poller that or admit to it where anyone could overhear.
Seeing how the question of race has influenced American politics like no other topic, from the Civil War to the Civil Rights, from the Solid South to Nixon´s southern strategy, I wonder what the election fo Obama will do to that issue. God, I hope he´ll be a good president, and we will get rid of racism - maybe not completely, but it will be much harder for racists to argue.
visitor_xxx said...
"Dominic said...
To me, the "I'm voting for the ni##er" comments are very plausible. It seems to me that these people are trying to say that even though they are voting for Obama they are still defiantly racists, proud enough to shout the n word in your face. Their vote for Obama does not mean a betrayal of their core "values" (for lack of a better word).
October 25, 2008 5:23 AM
###########
Probably I am pissing against the wind but, just a thought:
couldn't be possible that those people just overcame the racial meaning of that word and just using it addressing Obama as sort of confidential friendly word ??"
Deffinately not a friendly word no matter what way you say it. I've got an uncle in North Carolina that has tossed it about a few times. He works in a factory with many African Americans and he sees in those people the qualities he's looking for due to his conditioning. Since he sees what he expects it keeps his expectations there. I've often heard him rant about how lazy they are, etc. However, I have no doubt that he can work along side them without a problem, he just complains at home. I also wouldn't be surprised that there are some who he gets along with well, so long as they don't fall into the stereotype he's looking for. And quite frankly, Obama doesn't hit the prejudiced stereotypes.
That's not to say there aren't still many that won't vote for him, just as there are many I know who are deeply conservative and won't vote for him as he's too "liberal". I know that mindset well too. However, I anticipate that the "Bradley effect" is goinng to shortly become renamed the "Palin effect". Too many republicans that are staunch republicans and would never dare admit that they'd even concider voting for a Democrate are going to anyways though they'd never tell a poller that or admit to it where anyone could overhear.
Sorry about the double posts. This thing keeps making it seem like my comments aren't going through.
I keep seeing this nigger discussion going on and must say, I've seen this attitude first hand. The rebel flag waving guy next door (Louisiana) told me "We have to give the nigger a chance".
Also, to someone asked if it was a friendly term... it's complicated.
It'd definitely not friendly but it doesn't mean what it did 20 years ago. A lot of people aren't "racist" in the sense of wishing bad on people or thinking that as a race that are subpar. That said, they do hold on to some stereotypes and use that word to define them.
bizkid23 said...
"I keep seeing this nigger discussion going on and must say, I've seen this attitude first hand. The rebel flag waving guy next door (Louisiana) told me "We have to give the nigger a chance".
Also, to someone asked if it was a friendly term... it's complicated.
It'd definitely not friendly but it doesn't mean what it did 20 years ago. A lot of people aren't "racist" in the sense of wishing bad on people or thinking that as a race that are subpar. That said, they do hold on to some stereotypes and use that word to define them."
It's something they cling to alongside their guns and religion.
The parts of PA that Murtha talked about are not places that Dems win statewide elections. While I am not fully confident in the polls (Obama was polling 6 points ahead of Hillary in the primary, and still managed to lose by 9), I think we will squeak by here.
thene said...
I dunno how long David Goldman has lived in the USA; I came here from London to work for a few months in 2005, and moved over for real earlier this year. I have no idea how he got so full of crud about the healthcare issue...
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Couldn’t agree more with what thene and chris said about the british healthcare system in earlier posts. From a German point of view the health care system in the UK is even too privatized. Correct me if I’m wrong but I even think it is the further privatization of it under Blair that has led to severe shortcomings and capacity overloads. In Germany you can still pretty much get a decent health care without having a private insurance, the waiting lines might sometimes be longer for people with state insurance. But what Goldman says in the interview is simply disinformation and contrary to whatever experience people I have spoken with have made in both the US and most of Europe.
Spread the health!!
I can TELL YOU, unequivocally:
I live in the UK, and have NEVER been afraid of going to the doctor or the hospital because I COULDN'T afford it, like in the USA.
And the care and service I get here is FIRST RATE.
I had a prostate operation, green-light laser surgery, cutting edge, went home the SAME afternoon, Brilliant.
What did it cost me?
Cab Fare.
Rick
I agree with you on the Palin Effect - I think there are alot of folks who will not vote McCain/Palin because of Gov Palin
They will either
1. Vote Obama/Biden
2. Vote for a 3rd party or not vote at all.
This may be the first time for many elections where the Rep turnout falls behind the Dems - not because folks think it is all over, but because they won't vote for Palin.
There will be over 400 EVs for Obama (my estimate) - a massive win. I think he would have won without the Palin effect but it would have been a much closer race. I wonder if she will ever realise this fact?
LizandLou said...
"There will be over 400 EVs for Obama (my estimate) - a massive win. I think he would have won without the Palin effect but it would have been a much closer race. I wonder if she will ever realise this fact?"
I highly doubt it. Given her response to the ethics report it doesn't seem that she's overly connected to reality. My guess is that she'll fully blame it all on them not making better use of her and that had she been given more control over it she'd have essentially brought it home single handedly.
rick,
bizkid23,
thank you for the explanation.
:)
"Blues' Legace suffers hip injury after tripping on carpet for Palin
Ouch.."
McCain/Palin - just one F**kup after another.
Obama is not a ni**er
as a redneck race is not a problem for me
i vote on what they offer
good morning
Real Joe said...
"Obama is not a ni**er
as a redneck race is not a problem for me
i vote on what they offer"
Morning Real Joe. How's the book deal going? I think a great deal of folks who never would have thought they'd vote for an African American under any circumstances and are less tolerant than yourself are finding out there are indeed worse people out there.
Bill Clinton on Friday predicted a blowout win for Democrat Barack Obama, urging Arkansans on the outset of a two-day campaign swing to back the “one option” to fix a broken economy and inspire the world.
Loved the story. Especially that callback with the dialer, fascinating!
Racist, politically ignorant, & all-around poorly educated people have factored heavily into the campaign coverage this year (on both sides). Let's hope it's not just a glimpse through their windows, but an opening of doors.
Early voting in Arkansas
By 4:30 p.m. Friday, Naragon said, 130,540 early votes had been cast statewide. In the 2004 presidential election, 300,350 votes were cast
Real Joe said...
"Bill Clinton on Friday predicted a blowout win for Democrat Barack Obama, urging Arkansans on the outset of a two-day campaign swing to back the “one option” to fix a broken economy and inspire the world."
Nice, guilt trip them with the obvious so they don't want to be the only ones that didn't back Obama.
Rick said
I highly doubt it. Given her response to the ethics report it doesn't seem that she's overly connected to reality. My guess is that she'll fully blame it all on them not making better use of her and that had she been given more control over it she'd have essentially brought it home single handedly.
Which comes back to many early comments - "She doesn't know what she doesn't know" Scarry!
Palin blaming Bush for her problem seems to be all that remains
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27364991
Hello Real Joe - have you found the "October event" yet?
Really, really well written piece. Seriously, you should get into the business. One of the best political stories I've read.
See FoxNews and MSNBC - this is what balanced and even handed look like.
And with pictures to boot!
Also important is the exposure that the Midwest / Appalachia is getting in this election... Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Indiana, West Virginia. It has reminded me, at least, that voters from this region can confidently walk in stride with the worst of Southern stereotypes.
Geoff said...
"Also important is the exposure that the Midwest / Appalachia is getting in this election... Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Indiana, West Virginia. It has reminded me, at least, that voters from this region can confidently walk in stride with the worst of Southern stereotypes."
We do our best :)
(AP) - Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean is to appear at Nov. 1 get-out-the-vote rallies in Fargo and Grand Forks.
State Democrats say the Fargo rally is scheduled at the Fargo Civic Center next Saturday afternoon.
thene and the others are right -- David Goldman is infuriating and sounds like a fraud to me. There are problems with every health care system, and I wouldn't put the UK as anywhere near the best system in the world, and I think we can do better as we design universal coverage for ourself, but in terms of health care outcomes, universal access, and in general satisfaction with the health care system, they're far ahead of us.
Battles in Lake Co. may decide Indiana race
Link
Politico:
Palin allies report rising campaign tension
Link
AP:
After Joe the Plumber, Joe the Hothead?
Link
AP:
Democrats headed toward big gains in House, Senate
Link
Real Joe,
Obama must have asked Dean to head some place where political damage would be minimal in the event of Scream II. Fargo fits, doncha think?
Rick,
As I am formerly from the south & currently in the midwest, I too hope that we're doing our best. ;)
Nate was on the NPR Show 'On The Media' this morning talking about the Bradley Effect. Go Nate, great job.
Real Joe said...
"Politico:
Palin allies report rising campaign tension"
Just as I thought. She blames them and their handling for all of the problems she's had.
Good morning Joe!
How bad is the tension in the McCain campaign - are the Palin folks still talking to the McCain folks? It seems she is going to be the one thrown under the bus after this fiasco....along with Schmidt.
Good morning Joe!
How bad is the tension in the McCain campaign - are the Palin folks still talking to the McCain folks? It seems she is going to be the one thrown under the bus after this fiasco....along with Schmidt.
fred said...
"Good morning Joe!
How bad is the tension in the McCain campaign - are the Palin folks still talking to the McCain folks? It seems she is going to be the one thrown under the bus after this fiasco....along with Schmidt."
Schmidt's a deffinate. Possibly Davis as well. However, I think that while it is likely that McCain will attempt to blame Palin, she's the more popular one with the base and so it's likely that her blaming McCain and his people in turn will allow those that like her for whatever reason to justify continuing to support her.
I saw a poll that had Romney leading for 2012 repub nomination, followed by Huckabee, then Palin.
McCain's brother and the 911 cal abut traffic...this is some funny crap. Those McCain boys sure think they should get special treatment, don't they?
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/joe-mccain/
lol fred, that's hilarious!
palin/mccain. more fun than punch & judy.
Early voting numbers high across state of Texas
(AP)
Texans went to the polls in huge numbers as Friday arrived and the first early voting week neared its end, far outpacing totals from the 2004 presidential election.
More than 1.1 million Texans cast ballots in the 15 most populous counties through Thursday, compared with 655,265 in those counties four years ago, according to figures released by the Secretary of State's Office on Friday.
Harris County – the state's largest – had gotten 208,010 ballots through mail or in-person voting, representing more than a 2-to-1 increase over 2004.
Even in Galveston County, hard hit by Hurricane Ike, early voting numbers were high. A total of 28,272 ballots had been cast through Thursday there, up from 17,032 four years ago.
Leading the way in percentage of early voters among the largest counties was Travis County, a Democratic stronghold where Austin is located and where 17.6 percent of registered voters had cast ballots.
The Secretary of State's Office said it isn't surprised by the large numbers because of heightened interest in the presidential race between Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain, as well as important local and legislative races.
"The convenience of early voting appears to be something that many Texans appreciate and see as an alternative to what may be long lines on Election Day," said Randall Dillard, spokesman for the state election agency.
The agency only tracks early voting totals in the 15 most populous counties. Early voting ends Oct. 31, but the results of those ballots aren't known until election night on Nov. 4.
Both major political parties are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars this season and devoting money and volunteers to intensive final get-out-the-vote efforts. Democratic and Republican rallies are planned throughout the state today.
"We've got people on the ground working every night, and phone banks," said Bech Bruun, a spokesman for the Republicans' Texas Victory 2008 operation. "It's time now to make sure they all have their marching orders."
Republicans expect to do well in suburban counties around metropolitan areas, including Montgomery, Collin, Fort Bend, Denton and Williamson counties, Bruun said. Texas Victory 2008 made a point of tracking down and registering thousands of newly relocated residents in those high-growth areas, he said.
Texas Democratic Party spokesman Hector Nieto said high turnout is a good sign for his party. Democrats are looking for big pockets of support in Travis, Dallas and Harris counties, Nieto said.
Democratic Party chairman Boyd Richie distributed an e-mail Friday telling party activists that by the time the election arrives the party will have sent 2.7 million pieces of mail and made 1.8 million phone calls urging votes for all Democrats on the ballot. The calls will include two rounds of live calls and four rounds of automated calls from prominent Democrats.
Good morning to all the east coasters. I'm about to go to bed (West coast creative type who stays up late). Just wanted to chime in one last time on the use of language.
I personally think we should disempower the word 'nigger'. I grew up in Alabama and I am aware of its connotations. This is actually indicative of a movement I've been noticing of late. It's a movement that smacks of McCarthyism. We've seen evidence of this in the current campaign as the republican party goes down in flames.
I've heard other people lambasted for use of perfectly legitimate language. For example:
A prominent professor was fired for using the word 'niggardly'; a real word that means miserly.
'Uppity'. Forgive me but I've always associated this word with a sexist bent, as in 'uppity bitch'. I was unaware of the racist use.
'Lynch'. A legitimate word; and not to mention a legitimate last name for many people.
There are others. Personally, I've worked with African Americans who would often use the term 'nigger' in chiding manner; as in "nigger, please" indicating incredulity. Maybe one day, none of this will matter.
But It bothers me on a basic level that people are using 'anti-American' rhetoric as easily as racist rhetoric was once used unashamedly. It's code for 'Us versus them' or 'they aren't real Americans like us'. Bandying the word Muslim about as though it means you're automatically a terrorist.
The one thing that frightens me most is religious, fanatic, fundamentalism. And I'm not referring to Islam.
G'nite
Obama up 52-40 in the DKos tracker. He got a 11+ last night.
great great piece from Salon for all of those who think Obama's leads in the polls are somehow 'fake' or artificially high
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/25/obamas_lead/
Obama wazzzzzzzzzup commercial. It's really good!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq8Uc5BFogE
Newsweek
Obama 53, McCain 41
Dates conducted: October 22-23.
Error margin: 3.4 points
http://www.newsweek.com/id/165586
NH tease for president tomorrow, but senate race released:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/10/25/in_nh_poll_signs_of_a_democratic_sweep/
Shaheen, a former three-term governor, has the support of 49 percent of likely voters polled, compared with 36 percent for Sununu. Only 13 percent were undecided.
"Don't underestimate the high level of racism in VA and PA. Obama's ground game is incredible, but it will still be a bit of an uphill climb..."
But also don't over-estimate the racism. Virginia elected the nation's first black governor, Doug Wilder. While some people say the race showed a Bradley effect, the fact remains, Wilder still won. And this was almost 20 years ago.
@Timothy -
It's just statistical noise. Ignore it. Subsamples are tiny (even independent voters) and so have really bad statistical variation from sample to sample. In this case, you're talking about variations between two samples of 400 (the one that rolled on and the one that rolled off). At 30%, that's 120 people, which is a huge margin of error.
Yes you are correct , but what pisses me off is if the asshole had an honest bone in his body, he would say the same thing and he wouldn't be trying to picture it as a shift toward McSame.
In a 3 day rolling sample with sucha small number of voter interviews, there is no way that one days polling can predict a shift of anykind
I am from PA and this is not racist territory. What Murtha was referring to is a KKK movement in the rural areas of Western PA. That's a small part of our population and it was spun out of control. We have not gone red since 80 and we are not about to. Our governer is Jewish for heaven's sake. Can people please stop identifying PA as racist just because you see the idiot Palin mobs there? There are idiot Palin mobs everywhere and it's not our fault that they won't get out of here. I don't think Virginia is incredibly racist either.
Colorado-Rocky Mtn News/CBS4
O-52
M-40
I think people are using the N word not because they are unecessesarily racist because they are ignorant. When you have people that don't live amongst blacks often times they don't know that word is taboo, especially the older people, since the rappers use it in their videos and they probably don't understand the distinction and don't know it's not okay to say. I'm not making excuses for their ignorance. I'm just saying using that word doesn't necessarily qualify someone as a full blown racist.
the christian right is at it again...doomsday is approaching if Obama is elected:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/24/christian-right-intensifi_n_137752.html
talking about fanatics, fundamentalist and religious extremists, when will America finally get rid of these fascists? I really hope moderate faith is soon going to turn against them and ideologically engage them
Some old floks in FL actually think Obama is the anti-Christ. Pretty amazingly idiotic people.
So, this is the second time I've seen a "I'm voting for the n****r" story from a campaign worker. I have a feeling this is an urban legend in the making.
I am wondering if it is urban legend as well. I would love the pic of the trailer with the conferderate flag and the Obama sign to.
Re: healthcare in Britain. I speak as a MASSIVE fan of our healthcare system, but there is one thing we really don't do as well as elsewhere, and that's paying for the latest, really expensive, cancer (and some other) drugs.
Because everyone's healthcare money comes from the same pot, unless they go private, it's allocated according to where it's most useful - and it's difficult to justify tens of thousands of pounds on cancer treatment that will keep someone alive six months when it could go to other treatments that will keep someone alive six years. Of course, we only spend about half what the US does on healthcare per capita (both in absolute terms and as a proportion of GDP); I expect if we spent as much as you do, we could probably afford a few more nice drugs too.
Apart from that, there are a few other problems with the healthcare here (some waiting times, though dramatically shortened over the last 10 years, are still longer than most would like; hospitals often charge for 'extras' like phone calls and parking; it can be difficult in some areas to see a doctor out-of-hours), but nothing as serious as leaving millions of the poorest people practically uncovered.
Palin injures Blues goalie! Loses MO votes!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/hockey/nhl/10/24/blues.palin.ap/index.html?cnn=yes
This is beginning to remind me of a story I heard about Bobby Mitchell on the local news station a few years ago. Mitchell was the first black player for the Redskins in 1962.
A journalist was recounting the time and the situation, and said he recalled the transition of the community as follows:
"Who's that n***er?!"
"Throw it to the n***er!!"
"Throw it to Mitchell!!"
Looks like in 2008 we're only getting to phase 2 :(
Race is much better than it used to be and many folks no longer even see skin color. The rural areas always take longer to join the educated masses, but they will get there to.
This was a great, great post. Eleven days...
Kati said...
The parts of PA that Murtha talked about are not places that Dems win statewide elections. While I am not fully confident in the polls (Obama was polling 6 points ahead of Hillary in the primary, and still managed to lose by 9), I think we will squeak by here.
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Obama trailed Clinton by 7 on the day of the PA primary after being down 20+ a few weeks earlier:
http://www.pollster.com/polls/pa/08-pa-dem-pres-primary.php
Good catch jim. how the hell does someone think obama was leading hillary in the polls in pa? the news was filled with nothing but stories about clinton's surge and how she was gonna win PA.
Couple of Marist polls...
New York (so so proud to be a New Yorker!)
O: 65
M: 29
New Jersey
O: 56
M: 39
Lautenberg leads Zimmer in NJ Senate race 48-41.
Can someone please tell me how the GQR poll of 10/24 was given a weighting of ZERO?
AP:
Obama's victory plan: economic focus, TV ad finale
Link
now that's a good plan from Obama
Jim thank so much for putting those numbers up. For some reason people have began to spread this idea that there was some kind of sense that Obama was going to win in OH, PA etc and he lost because the polls lied. NOT true as you point out. Obama came closer than anyone thought he would. He actually overperformed the polls which had him losing by 10 or 12 and he lost by 8. There were some polls that put it closer but averaging all the polls he tended to do better both in PA and in OH.
While I am not fully confident in the polls (Obama was polling 6 points ahead of Hillary in the primary, and still managed to lose by 9), I think we will squeak by here.
Horse feathers... That's not even remotely true... He NEVER had a lead in PA with the exception of a single poll by PPP that had him +3, one they admit they just got wrong. By election day Hillary was up 7-10 points in every of poll and what dragged the average down was that single outlier. If you're going to concern troll, that's fine - just be factual.
Rick said...
" ... I think that while it is likely that McCain will attempt to blame Palin, she's the more popular one with the base and so it's likely that her blaming McCain and his people in turn will allow those that like her for whatever reason to justify continuing to support her."
So, I can just see McCain and Palin rolling around in the dust, each trying to throw the other under the bus! Hopefully, they will both land there. SPLAT!
good link real joe but it makes me laugh that the AP is saying that the race is tighter. That may have been true last week but all the polls this week show a widening lead.
A quick story from the Wilder election in '89. Miners were striking in Wise County(the county where Big Stone Gap is located). WIldler in addressing a group of miners, said, "Ive heard that its been said here that you would rather vote for a n****r before a Republican . Well nows your chance." Wilder went on to win the razor close race, partly due to the smaller margins in SW VA.
AP haS BEEN SKEWED TO mCcAIN IN THEIR REPORTING SINCE THE CONVENTIONS.
" the Wilder election in '89"
I used to live in Va but forgot they do their gubernatorial races in odd years. Good for political junkies I guess, but it also sucks b/c there is an election pretty much every year. The signs just come down for the presidential race as the gov race signs are going up.
exactly PA John. I just don't get this push to misrepresent Obama's polling both in Ohio and PA as him leading and then losing for some 'mysterious' reason. he never lead he closed the gap actually but never came close enough. Also--he was running in PA and OH against the machinery of the state which was working for Hillary. Now the democrats who run the state govt are with him NOT McCain. Those who think he can run like Hillary in PA assume McCain will have the same forces with him and nothing could be further from the truth.
"Can you come up and take me to vote? I need to go vote for that n*gger" is exactly the words I heard from my own Grandmother 19 years ago, in Virginia. I drove to Frederick County VA, took her to vote, and we went to Jolly Jacks for chicken and cole slaw.
My grandmother was born in 1898 of course, but it's not hard for me to believe that there are people in Virginia what are 19 years behind the curve.
Remember, Doug Wilder did win!
We are very proud of our NHS, Thatcher didnt dare touch it, and it probably turned a landslide +100 for blair in 97 into a wipeout +179.
The 7 days to save the NHS was a very effective campaign strategy.
The NHS is seen to some as a sympbol for uk like the stars and stripes is in the USA.
Its seen as a one of those great achievements of our better selves, of our forefathers which could not be replicated today.
Churchill's great achievement was to win the war, atlee's was the NHS. Atlee is generally rated as a better PM. - So be carfeul
My first time posting a comment.
I love this site, especially all the blue I see on the electoral map.
But today I just had to say, despite the occasional typo or misspelling, the writing is superb. I absolutely love the stories from around the country. I also want to encourage the guys to publish a book when the election is over. Between the articles and the photos, I've just been blown away. Seriously, they bring tears to my eyes.
I'm a lonely Obama supporter down here in Alabama, and I doubt we'll be seeing the 538 guys or any Obama bigwigs- our state's been written off, and rightfully so. It's heartening to see all the work going on through the rest of the country!
Obama/Biden '08
Obama leads McCain 49% to 46% in Ohio Newspaper Poll
Link
Also--he was running in PA and OH against the machinery of the state which was working for Hillary.
Very true. Hillary had Rendell, Mayor Nutter, and almost every Democratic house member outside of Philly backing her here. Obama had Bob Casey Jr.
All McCain has to draw from that are about 500 angry PUMAs in Scranton.
I am *the* Julie Hensley of the article. Let me assure you that while this may be an urban myth to you that the phone call took place. I even remember the folks' names. I assure you that a 'not' wasn't left out and that the guy was not being facetious or admiring when he used the 'n' word. That is why my acceptance of the apology, later, was conditional on finding out who he was voting for - his comment had been so cryptic, ironic and disturbing that I couldn't even guess.
Also, it's not unusual, I have another friend who is an Obama supporter with a racist brother (and a more racist sister-in-law). Recently the brother explained that he and his wife were going to vote Obama. He said they'd put their racism aside (and that it was very hard to do) and listened to Obama. Afterwards they decided to vote for him.
Are they still racist? Yes. Perhaps that will change in time now that they've challenged it themselves. However, they've confronted their concerns or fears enough to give Obama his chance and he rose above their bias.
So anyone who doesn't see the hilarity in creating another group - complete with rally signs, tshirts and badges - that call themselves "Racists for Obama" really don't get the South in general or most Monty Python humor I suspect.
Yes, it's crazy, insane and absurd but it's true.
MO
O 48
M 47
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/politics/story/41E46DFC3AFB93AE862574ED000FB829?OpenDocument
That's the U. of Cincinnati poll that had been consistently showing McCain ahead.
Ohio
PPP
O-51
M-44
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