10.12.2008

Are McCain's Ads "Dangerous"?

Let's compare two commercials. The first is an RNC spot entitled "Chicago Way", which hits Barack Obama on his connections to Tony Rezko, William Ayers and (somewhat oddly) William Daley:



This is a pretty standard negative ad. The message is essentially: "Obama's a little wet behind the ears, he might be corrupt, and he's made some poor judgments in his associates". The ad is straightforward and -- dare I say -- relatively fair. Nothing is taken out of context. In poking fun at the Chicago tradition, it even seems to have a bit of a sense of humor.

By comparison, take a look at "Dangerous" -- the most recent spot put together by the McCain campaign:


This is a much darker ad. The viewer is caught in a matrix-like web of television screens. The colors are washed out. There a sinister (although barely audible) low-pitched hum in the background. The female narrator is humorless, scolding.

It is an ad, in short, designed to engage the viewer on an emotional rather than intellectual level, to play to the subconscious mind. And that carries through to the tagline -- "Who is Barack Obama?" -- a question that the ad addresses only obliquely. What, precisely, is that supposed to mean? Shouldn't the ad be telling us who Barack Obama is, rather than asking our imaginations to run wild?

I am no advertising critic, but the McCain campaign's ads are routinely among the most bizarre that I have ever seen, appearing to originate from a sort of parallel universe in which cartoonish Obama heads float disembodied before sepia-toned backgrounds, in which language is distilled to a technocratic shorthand, in which the line between imagination and reality is blurred. I find them exceptionally disturbing, and that is surely the reaction they are meant to evoke.

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Real Joe said...



Republicans Voice Concern Over McCain Strategy

Some fear the Senator waited too long to attack Obama over Ayers, say the issue doesn’t connect with voters.

Gingrich: “He has to make the case that he’s different than Bush and better than Obama on the economy. If he doesn’t win that case, it’s all over….”

GOP strategist Castellanos: “He doesn’t need an attack strategy, he needs a comeback strategy.”

Plus: Gingrich says he “can’t defend” McCain’s mortgage proposal.

Link

Real Joe said...

stepper said...
RWC can't even spell conspiracist properly. How can you trust anything else this ignorant trailer-dweller posts?


hahahaha

Helen said...

yvonne -- i think there are plenty of conservatives who use their brains and are informed, too, and have solid reasons for being conservative and/or republican. just saying :)

Yvonne said...

Helen,

you are right, but I was referring to the likes of RWC. I know some Republicans that I like very much, I just don't happen to agree with them.

sfergus483 said...

The shocking truth for you RCW is going to be when next month Barack Obama received millions more votes for president than any candidate ever.

Deal with it...

Bill P. said...

Woot!! Another $10 to OBAMA in the name of rightwingconspiricist!!!

Keep it up, son!!!

Chi said...

real joe said, "its very sad to leave a campaign that you invested in"

I know. But look at it this way: you're going to recoup your losses with Barack more than a hundred fold. ;-)

Right Wing Conspiricist said...

None of you BRAINWASHED LIBS will read my links, why? Afraid of the TRUTH?

Real Joe said...

helen said...
yvonne -- i think there are plenty of conservatives who use their brains and are informed, too, and have solid reasons for being conservative and/or republican. just saying :)


i'm one of them with a brain

that's why i jump ship

Bill P. said...

RWC claims he intentionally misspells 'conspiracist' in order to avoid the last seven letters.

They're still true in his case, of course, but he's too much of a pathetic simpering coward to even spell his name correctly.

Marx was right said...

Real Joe, you described Obama as a "pussy" because he wants to use diplomacy in foreign policy. That's not an opinion somebody with a "brain" would take.

Bill P. said...

Woot!! Another $5 in honor of RWC!!

Keep it up, you pathetic whining piece of conservatrash!@@

Correa-Jones Happenings said...

Obama is not only gaining the senior white vote, but the senior vote in general, more AA are also registering and those that are also realize they physically need to vote this time. My husband didn't even know he had been registered since 2001 until he got his card!! AGHHHH..Obama is also gaining in the Hispanic vote which would be his Ace......I myself have registered for the first time and I am 32, I know atleast 20 people that have either changed from the Rethuglican side and will vote democratic, or have registered to vote for the first time. If everyone knows atleast 5-10 people that are voting Dem then, well I don't even try to do the math. whatevah. FL, no matter what the polls say, will be interesting to watch Nov 4 and I hope it stays blue.

slicknickshady said...

When is Selzer going to come out with more polls?

Charles Crook said...

Early voting starts next Monday (20th) in FL.

Antmatic said...

right wing conspiratist and real joe-

Just curious, what percentage of the country do you think is "liberal" and is that number growing or shrinking?

Reading blogs like the Corner, I am always struck by how few liberals / Democrats a lot of conservatives believe are out there; they seem to think liberalism is limited to Manhattan and San Francisco. Same way they overestimate the popularity of Sarah Palin.

I'm a Democrat, but I never understimate how many conservatives are out there (many of whom are my friends)

Antmatic said...

right wing conspiratist and real joe-

Just curious, what percentage of the country do you think is "liberal" and is that number growing or shrinking?

Reading blogs like the Corner, I am always struck by how few liberals / Democrats a lot of conservatives believe are out there; they seem to think liberalism is limited to Manhattan and San Francisco. Same way they overestimate the popularity of Sarah Palin.

I'm a Democrat, but I never understimate how many conservatives are out there (many of whom are my friends)

Bill P. said...

I read your pathetic link, RWC. My reaction:

Awwww...the poor little conservatives don't like it when liberals talk back to them....poor little babies...

And another $20 to Obama for pointing me to that pathetic piece of fiction by a right-wing piece of human waste.

slicknickshady said...
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slicknickshady said...

I want more Selzer polls.

Helen said...

yvonne,

haha yup me too! ex-bf among them, such a smart guy. but i totally see your point! there are def some good examples of those w/o brains cells lol.

real joe,

haha yay!! what was the final straw for you?

Antmatic said...

I bet Selzer comes out with one final round of polling in like a week and a half

Real Joe said...

antmatic said...
right wing conspiratist and real joe-

Just curious, what percentage of the country do you think is "liberal" and is that number growing or shrinking?


its definitely growing

open border immigration is also contributing to this increase

most immigrants are liberals

slicknickshady said...

good. she has been money.

NoVa Commie said...

Reply of Clinton/Biden on CSpan

Ed M. said...

I don't follow your links because it's usually stale old bullshit that I've already made fun of somewhere.

I've got something useful for you though! A doll that makes randomnoise and some people say they hear Islamic messages in it! Or Satan! I bet you can find the hidden Obama brainwashing! Take a good long time listening to it. I know you find something and you can take it to redstate or somewhere and wave it around and you'll get gold starts.

Bill P. said...

Conservatives will never admit you have a point or allow you to speak your mind. They cede no ground - if you ignore them they consider you a wimp, and if you talk back to them they consider you a thug.

Conservatives are just ugly, filthy, disgusting people. There's really no way around it.

Antmatic said...

Anyone else seeing a lot more Obama ads today than normal? I live in New York City, I have seen two during this Arizona / Dallas football game. Is he buying national broadcast ads?

Bill P. said...

There have been a TON of Obama ads in the Seattle area today. Interesting since we Seattlites are a highly intelligent lot who will be voting blue regardless. :~)

Marx was right said...

"America will rise from the ashes of the Bushes."

Great line, Hillary. :o)

Genevieve said...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenumbers/2008/10/attack-blowback.html

How are voters reacting to McCain's attacks?

NoVa Commie said...

Virginia ads have changed - still health care, but now more detail on why McCain plan sucks...

Antmatic said...

By the way, the ads are these "McCain will tax health care benefits for the first time ever" while "Obama will offer the middle class 3 times more tax relief than McCain."

It's no wonder McCain is getting battered on the economy if the Democrat is out there saying that McCain will raise middle class taxes while Obama will cut them

Real Joe said...

real joe,

haha yay!! what was the final straw for you?


these attacks(bringing up race/religion/not patriotic)

i don't like many Obama policies but i don't believe he's a bad man

what will god think of us ??

:-(

Real Joe said...

antmatic said...
Anyone else seeing a lot more Obama ads today than normal? I live in New York City, I have seen two during this Arizona / Dallas football game. Is he buying national broadcast ads?


yes

$$$

Loralee said...

I can't agree that the RNC ad is even "relatively" fair. The claim that Rezko and Ayers gave Obama his political "training" is patently absurd.

Helen said...

real joe,

i totally see that. they are really starting to scare me. i never supported mccain (policy differences), but i always had so much respect for him. that's gone now. :(

gougef said...

Right Wing Conspiricist said...

None of you BRAINWASHED LIBS will read my links, why? Afraid of the TRUTH?

--------------------------------------

You are the one that is brainwashed.

Now go give Hannity his asswash like a good little butt licker.

Bill P. said...

antmatic -

Those are the ads running here. Obama is obviously taking away the tax argument by pointing out that McCain's plan raises taxes on most Americans while Obama's plan cuts taxes.

Nice. Very nice indeed.

Barack Obama will be an outstanding American president.

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Real Joe said...

genevieve said...
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenumbers/2008/10/attack-blowback.html

How are voters reacting to McCain's attacks?



not how McCain wants them to react

COPAY said...

"A parallel universe" is being black in America. One good by-product of this election is people who have never noticed racism before are finally noticing. Mystifying, isn't it? From reading the blogs, quite a few (racists) have changed. The remaining will be dead in a generation.

Barack has already changed this nation. I can't wait for him and his young staff to take over.

sfergus483 said...

Why the national buys?

1) Build up the ultimate margin, easier to govern after

2) Boost national horserace polls, which are at the point that they keep the story of "McCain imploding" alive and lethal

3) Battleground states are oversaturated with ads at this point, to the extent they show diminishing returns

Bill P. said...

I'm out for a bit. I'll scan all the posts later to see how much I'll need to donate to Obama on behalf of rightwingconspiricist.

Thanks, RWC. I needed some motivation to max out to the next POTUS, so I appreciate what you're doing for me and Obama.

fred said...

The ad differential could well represent the RNC pulling it's mpney to help Senate candidates.

Simon said...

RWC is an Obama fundraising machine!

Loralee said...

sfergus:
4) assist down-ticket races

bigdayqueen said...

Sunday is usually our family contact day, lots of phone calls to keep up with each other, so I decided to get an idea of where everyone's head was on the election. Mind you, of 26 registered voters scattered over PA, CO and VA ...2 are Dems, 2 Ind and the rest are GOP. But the current voting count is 12 Obama, 5 McCain and 9 just don't want to vote at all because they don't like either candidate and just want the election to be over!

eve said...

real joe said:

"its very sad to leave a campaign that you invested in"


It is. And it seems to me it takes a person very open to information to do so.

mc9cain said...

My idea for an Obama administration: He schedules a press conference to announce all his cabinet members in the Rose Garden. Obama comes out first and then he individually announces each one and they walk out. EVERY one of them is a young black rapper. The wingnuts will absolutely freak out!!! And then he says with a little smile: just kiddin' guys - just havin' a little fun.

Christopher said...

I'm reasonably certain that it there were any evidence of VOTER FRAUD and not regularly reported REGISTRATION FRAUD, then it would be all over the newspapers. There's a big difference between the two. What's more concerning and also not reported in the press is massive voter purging.

Alyssa said...

@RCW
MSM also isn't showing Palin's ABUSE OF POWER you dumbass.

ACORN doesn't mean shit. Fake registrations by PAID workers do not turn into votes. You really fucking think "Mickey Mouse" is gonna show up with his/her voter registration card and be ID'ed on election day? Or any name and ID'ed on election day for that matter.

You're a fucking lowest common denominator moron.

Alyssa said...

Real Joe was never a "real" McCain supporter.

Right Wing Conspiricist said...

No but they might bush HOMELESS PEOPLE IN to vote MULTIPLE TIMES.

Simon said...

mc9cain:

And the Secretary of State... Lil Wayne!!

Darío said...

Today´s polls?.
Only Nevada +2 Obama?

Alyssa said...

RCW
You can't vote MULTIPLE TIMES. There's this thing called ID check. Have you heard of it? Maybe you aren't old enough to vote and know better. You're posts are evidence of that.

Homeless people should be allowed to vote. They have nothing but they are still fucking citizens you piece of shit.

Every time you post I'm also donating $10 to Obama and I'm counting like Bill P.

mc9cain said...

Damn, no wonder so many people wanted to lose their home to be homeless. RWC says they get to vote multiple times!!! Shit, now EVERYBODY will want to be homeless!

Yvonne said...
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Charles Crook said...

Pending bank takeover ( before it fails ):

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122384934767726943.html

Yvonne said...

RWC,

starting now, I will donate $10 to Obama every time you post some bullsh$t.

Real Joe said...

darío said...
Today´s polls?.
Only Nevada +2 Obama?


Pennsylvania Morning Call Tracking

Obama 51, McCain 39

Delaware West Chester Univ.

Obama 56, McCain 38

Colorado PPP (D)

Obama 52, McCain 42

California Rasmussen

Obama 56, McCain 40

Real Joe said...

i'm out

good night !

Neil said...

To me, the second ad undermines John McCain's major asset, which is that he is supposed to be straight talking, the kind of guy who'd not use these kinds of techniques. I've been in two minds about how he presents himself in this campaign, and spots like that make me more uneasy about whether he's honest and straightforward rather than uneasy about Barack Obama.

EmonOkari said...

The angrier the far right conservatives get, the more tantrums they throw, the more ground they lose. So keep it up, right-wingers. Let Americans in all 50 states see you for what you really are....

Helen said...

'night, joe!

thought: who on EARTH actually advocates for not letting people vote if they don't have a house?? i mean . . . this is the new plan? forclose on poor people and then deny all people w/o homes the vote? GREAT. so american/christian/etc of you.

Jason said...

FWIW, I think those 'TV screens' are actually frames in a contact sheet, which is just a print of a bunch of negatives on a piece of photo paper. You can see the frame numbers along the bottom. Handy for getting a rough look at your negatives (haha), back when people used film...

Strange about the sepia thing, since contact sheets are almost always black+write, but maybe McCain didn't know that photos have moved beyond sepia...

PAJ said...

I want in on this game. I will donate $5 in the name of RWC to the Obama campaign for any of those crazy RW talking points that he posts. ---Go Eagles/Phillies

Real Joe said...



Obama Knocks on Doors in Ohio


Link


Yvonne said...

Good night Joe. Wait a minute, it is not that late?

ic170 said...

hey PUMA Petekent is back

Judas..

mc9cain said...

alyssa and yvonne,
ok, in bill p's absence tonight I will join you guys. Mine is going to be $5 for each RWC ignorant post while I'm on line until Nov 4.

So Right Wing, if you don't want to be one of the biggest Obama donors on this blog, you might want to THINK before you type. Here's the definition of think to help you out:http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/think

fred said...

bigday queen-

Great news! Congrats!

Right Wing Conspiricist said...

Waste your money libs. Right down the toilet.

The Bradley/Wilder/Obama Effect will make it all for NOTHING! HAHA!

mc9cain said...

cha-ching for Obama! Best money ever spent! Anything to drown out rats like RWC!!

Helen said...

aww the obama knocking doors is so sweet!!

Yvonne said...

Oops, there goes $10.

couchpotatoxxx12 said...

Waste your money libs. Right down the toilet.

The Bradley/Wilder/Obama Effect will make it all for NOTHING! HAHA!


'k

mc9cain said...

bigdayqueen said...
Sunday is usually our family contact day, lots of phone calls to keep up with each other, so I decided to get an idea of where everyone's head was on the election. Mind you, of 26 registered voters scattered over PA, CO and VA ...2 are Dems, 2 Ind and the rest are GOP. But the current voting count is 12 Obama, 5 McCain and 9 just don't want to vote at all because they don't like either candidate and just want the election to be over!

October 12, 2008 6:16 PM

Wow - that is VERY impressive!! A whole lot of Obamacons!

Alyssa said...

I thought I'd be broke from the economy... not a right winger.... oh wait.

ZING

Keep it up RWC...

spintrap said...

If one listens once in a while, for example, to the Rush Limbaugh show, it becomes clear where the codewords for these ads come from. Which brings the question of which voters will these ads speak to? The daytime talk show listeners are already voting for McCain, anyway.

Right Wing Conspiricist said...

All those people saying they will vote for Obama ARE LYING because they want to be P.C., especially when talking to a LIBERAL. They're just afraid of being called RACISTS!

pi09 said...

So then the ..abuse of power, unethical, betrayal of public trust
findings may now be the Joker, the 53rd in a deck of cards that maybe used at any time, anyhow and anywhen?
Yeah, I am all for that if the Dems and everyone would find this issue unnecessary and unimportant because the Obama-Biden ticket is already far ahead.
I still feel that this should be at the front page and headline news as it is supposed to be. It is too serious an issue that has to be given its due.

Right Wing Conspiricist said...

The press will TALK ABOUT ACORN soon!

NC_voter said...

RWC

You 'cons really are dumb pieces of shit, aren't you?

Tell me a scenario where someone would lie to a ROBOTIC POLLSTER about voting for obama?

In fact, as per the primaries, the REVERSE bradley affect will help Obama win NC and VA. The only states where the regular effect might show up is the rustbelt, where Obama is leading well over +10 in each.

Your the one who's gonna be cryin' like a girl on election night.

President Barack Hussein Obama. get used to saying it.

fred said...

Doesn't Obama knocking on doors just describe the reason you want to vote for him? McCain would never lower himslef to go to a middle class neighborhood.

don't panic said...

RWC

the liberal takeover must be getting out of hand: now they even control the automated phones!

Right Wing Conspiricist said...

DEMOCRAT PRIMARIES are not the same thing as a GENERAL ELECTION, libs.

NoVa Commie said...

rwc,
they certainly will - head organizer for ACORN was on CSPAN today owning the pimply faced reporter from Politico...I expect to see them in MSM soon.

Yay!

One$Earned said...

@couchp

It will have an effect...enough to completely discount every poll, doubt it.

But it will show it's ugly head, guaranteed!

fred said...

Talj about ACRON, as long as they are honest there is no issue with ACORN.

Will the press talk about Cindy's drug addition? Will the press talk about Palin's unethical abuse of power?

NC_voter said...

and ROBOTIC pollsters still show Obama with the same lead, you dumb conservative piece of garbage.


You troglodytes need to crawl back in your cave.

fred said...

Rasmussen is an evangelical, who uses robo-polling and no cell phones. He shows a huge Obama lead.

NoVa Commie said...

video of ACORN on CSPAN
favorite quote - "repeating a lie over and over again doesn't make it true"


http://www.c-span.org/search.aspx?For=acorn

Alyssa said...

Side note: It cracks me up to no end to see a few VA commie posters now. I giggle every time yall post.

NoVa Commie said...

we love you too

ThatOne '08

fred said...

What is a VA commie?

couchpotatoxxx12 said...

All those people saying they will vote for Obama ARE LYING because they want to be P.C., especially when talking to a LIBERAL. They're just afraid of being called RACISTS!

Nope. There are plenty of excuses/cop-outs to not support Obama without being called racists. Plus, the true racists are most likely 99% McCain supporters/republicans already.

Trout Chevy Pike Palin said...

Right Wing Conspiricist said...

All those people saying they will vote for Obama ARE LYING because they want to be P.C., especially when talking to a LIBERAL. They're just afraid of being called RACISTS!


You are an idiot but I agree that there might be a serious moron effect; people could be afraid to admit that they will vote for corrupt morons.

BTW I'm in on the pledge too. 5 bucks for DNC every time you mention racist effect. Can someone track it and give a count?

Helen said...

fred,

mccain walked all over AZ to win his first campaign. his shoes were so worn out cindy bronzed them for him to remember it. so, i think it's unfair to say he would think it'd be lowering himself to go into lower class neighborhoods. maybe his advisors??

however, the obama thing IS why im voting for him. :) i just don't think it would OCCUR to mccain to do that.

NoVa Commie said...

McSame's brother called us communists

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hby_5Pku5ywmfC_rEtEV5BcYKR5gD93KFH4O0

Eric said...

mc9cain said...
bigdayqueen said...
Sunday is usually our family contact day, lots of phone calls to keep up with each other, so I decided to get an idea of where everyone's head was on the election. Mind you, of 26 registered voters scattered over PA, CO and VA ...2 are Dems, 2 Ind and the rest are GOP. But the current voting count is 12 Obama, 5 McCain and 9 just don't want to vote at all because they don't like either candidate and just want the election to be over!

October 12, 2008 6:16 PM

Wow - that is VERY impressive!! A whole lot of Obamacons!







I've decided part of the reason for this is the "Bradley Effect". You and me are polling people we know. They know who we're for. They're more predisposed to tell us Dems that they're onboard with us. SOme of them likely won't vote for him in the end I bet. That being said, I've had a similar experience with my universe of family and friends in Texas, Colorado, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, and Michigan. More vote Pub than Dem in Prez elections, they pretty much all say they're voting Obama. At least 5 of them always vote Pub and have friends that vote Pub, but say they're voting for Obama. This is a better indication of what's going on than anything I read on the net or see on TV including pundits and polls. These folks have never indicated they were planning on voting Dem in the past.

Real Joe said...



in Nebraska, the Republican representative(Second Congressional District) Lee Terry ran a newspaper ad featuring support from a woman who called herself an "Obama-Terry voter".

EmonOkari said...

In the words of Junior Highers everywhere: "Obama Rules...McCain Drools"

One$Earned said...

RWC

What ...ist would you consider yourself?, Racist, Realist, Optimist, Fascist or Pessimist.

One or more answers is acceptable.

Alyssa said...

@fred
McCain's brother referred to northern VA suburbs as "Communist Country"... he lives in one apparently.

"I've lived here for at least 10 years and before that about every third duty I was in either Arlington or Alexandria, up in communist country," Joe McCain, a Navy veteran, said at an event in Loudoun County, Va.


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hby_5Pku5ywmfC_rEtEV5BcYKR5gD93KFH4O0

gougef said...

Right Wing Conspiricist said...

The press will TALK ABOUT ACORN soon!

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Where the fuck have you been? They are talking about that instead of the Phalin's abuse of power report which they should be reporting about.

You are such a MORAN!

fred said...

RWC-

Is this you at a Palin rally you racist fucker?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNFokenPInk

realistxxx said...

Redstate.com co-founder, Joshua Trevino, couldn't bring himself to vote for McCain. Wrote in Jindal for his mail in ballot.

http://joshuatrevino.com/?p=681

Maybe Real Joe is Real Joshua?

Thoughts.

fred said...

WATCH this video - it drove me to give Obama another $100, it should you to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNFokenPInk

Right Wing Conspiricist said...

You libs need to lighten up and get a LIFE! That video was funny, the man was just doing satire.

fred said...

If a fouunder of redstate cannot vote McCain,then idiots like RWC ned to go read his blog and Chris Buckley's and admit this is over.

Right Wing Conspiricist said...

I mean how many times have you guys compared George Bush to a chimp?

Real Joe said...

realistxxx said...
Redstate.com co-founder, Joshua Trevino, couldn't bring himself to vote for McCain. Wrote in Jindal for his mail in ballot.

http://joshuatrevino.com/?p=681

Maybe Real Joe is Real Joshua?

Thoughts.


looks like there are people like me

:-)

couchpotatoxxx12 said...

Lol, I am ashamed to live in the same state as those people.

Good thing I live in a better area. I'm sure they're all bitter Obama is ahead by double digits in the PA polls. =)

couchpotatoxxx12 said...

Bush has actually done things to make his IQ seem like that of a chimp, though.

They do it to Obama just because he's black.

fred said...

Bringing a monket he calls Hussein to a Palin rally is a joke? NOPE!

Racism! Hate! Palin! - three great tastes go great together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNFokenPInk

WATCH THIS!!!!!!!!!!

mc9cain said...

That's so cool about Obama knocking on doors today. When I saw he had no public events I figured he was spending a rare day at home with his girls. But no, he's busy canvassing door to door.

Alyssa said...

I counted 31 RWC comments. I didn't check if they were all stupid or not, because well... we already know the answer to that.

$310 so far for Obama from me!

CHA CHING!

gougef said...

My take on the Bradley effect:

20 years ago people may have hidden racism, but have you seen the people in the past week or during primaries who did NOT give a shit?

Why the hell would anyone lie to robo-poller like Rasmussen or Survey-USA?

There is probably a number or "racists" who are ashamed to admit to their friends that they will vote for Obama, but will be voting for him.

Even if it exists, there may be a number of people who will vote for Obama who would not vote otherwise, and balances it out..

Finally, I have made peace if it does happen. If Obama doesn't get elected because of racist, the country will get the result that it deserves, and keeps sliding down the shithole the Rethugs have sent us down.

Alyssa said...

mc9cain,

Link please?

EmonOkari said...

One a completely random note: I would love it if we could somehow sign up via the website and get an automated email each time a new post went live.

Right Wing Conspiricist said...

Get ready to keep screaming about "Rethugligans", gougef, when President McCain is sworn in !

realistxxx said...

Did anyone see this ABC poll?

Candidiate is Mainly attacking his opponent:

McCain 59%
Obama 26%

Candidate is mainly addressing the issues:

McCain 35%
Obama 68%

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenumbers/2008/10/attack-blowback.html

mc9cain said...

Fred,
I don't know if that was RWC as he hasn't yet identified himself as a pedophile too. I guess we will have to assume it was him though unless he denies it.

Eric said...

Gougef,

All I'm saying is of my universe of family and Friends I've personally gauged about 10 always vote Republican, many have given me great reasons why they intend on voting OBama and have friends doing the same. I'm simply saying they're not all telling me the truth, even if they want to believe it. That being said, I think most of them will vote Obaa and he'll win in a landslide

mc9cain said...

Obama knocking on doors story and picture in NYT is posted upthread by Real Joe at 6:32

fred said...

Obama knocking on doors is in the NYT blog.

gougef said...

couchpotatoxxx12 said...

Bush has actually done things to make his IQ seem like that of a chimp, though.

They do it to Obama just because he's black.

-----------------------------------

Actually, I believe that Bush would win the chimp-look-alike contest, especially the behavior (talent) portion.

Bush or Chimp

couchpotatoxxx12 said...

The republicants will lose in a landslide. Accept it, RWC.

mc9cain said...

While ABC was it at doing that poll, why didn't they ask who they were voting for?? Maybe they did and it was so good for Obama they aren't posting it. I just can't see asking those questions without asking the obvious one.

Alyssa said...

32 comments....and counting.

Tick tock goes my Obama money clock.

Bill P. said...

Yeah, RWC. Calling a black man a monkey is satire. What a pathetic, sick, thoroughly disgusting piece of puke that sicko with the monkey is...hmmm...kind of sounds like you. Was it you? Any answer will result in a one-time $50 donation to Barack Obama - $25 in honor of the pathetic idiot with the monkey and $25 in honor of your pathetic posts.

Thanks to EVERYONE who is responding to RWC with donations to Obama!!! Who would have thought a disgusting right-wing moron would be the catalyst for several hundred dollars in donations to Obama?

WTG!!!

Alyssa said...

Thanks mc9cain!
I missed that somehow. So awesome!

Josh said...

I'm very happy to hear about the national ad buys - I think it's a great idea. And I also love that they are running that ad about Obama cutting taxes for the middle class more than McCain - that's a great ad. It hits McCain on the GOP's perceived strength - lower taxes.

top 10 stories & videos.

realistxxx said...

mc9cain said...

While ABC was it at doing that poll, why didn't they ask who they were voting for?? Maybe they did and it was so good for Obama they aren't posting it. I just can't see asking those questions without asking the obvious one.

--------------

I believe this is just a teaser from their national poll that will be released tomorrow.

Marx was right said...

BO's knocking on doors is so cool. For some reason I find this really touching. I could imagine some "pied piper" scenario where folks just start following him down the street and the crowd gets bigger and bigger. :)

Josh said...

RWC - I too am going to donate another $25 to Obama because of your BS.

The neocon's pathetic lies will not work this time. We've heard them all before.

Obama/Biden '08.

JJ said...

Wright Wing Conspiriwhatzit didn't comment on my Latin lesson. I feel so lost and lonely now :(

One$Earned said...

That One!

2008

Seje said...

I think they did poll voter candidate preference and are releasing results later on tonight.

Alyssa said...

jj said...
Wright Wing Conspiriwhatzit



LOL

dominar-action said...

Anyone else think Palin is in this for herself now and to hell with Gramps McCain?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/12/palin-draws-a-line-between-good-guys-and-bad-guys/

Either that, or she didn't get the memo about "respectful" campaigning.

sniperct said...

If I could afford it right now I'd join in on the RWC money bandwagon.

I'd also donate for every paragraph Pete Kent spits out.

PAJ said...

I'm adding another $15 for being so oblivious to think the monkey commentary was satire. (Shaking head)

EmonOkari said...
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mc9cain said...

I came across this online quiz today about Obama by the Chicago Tribune. Even having read his two books and living in Chicago, I didn't do so well!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-obama-quiz,0,234858.triviaquiz

dominar-action said...

Oh, and for anyone wondering about early voting in VA:

Anecdotally, I don't believe it amounted to much. There was little public awareness and the papers/radio didn't even mention it. When I went to our county elections website, I couldn't even find a mention of it. Someone told me (and I later verified) that you could vote early in VA only if you could prove you could not make it to the polls on 11/4. Essentially, it's absentee voting.

thene said...

Oooh, pie chart update. HOLY WIN PERCENTAGE. 0___o Where did that come from?

couchpotatoxxx12 said...

DAMN! Look at all those 100%'s for Obama.

gougef said...

mc9cain said...

Fred,
I don't know if that was RWC as he hasn't yet identified himself as a pedophile too. I guess we will have to assume it was him though unless he denies it.

----------------------------------

One lives in his neighborhood so he is one by "association."

Brian said...

Did anyone see this story about Palin's reaction to the Troopergate report? Is this woman retarded? I guess she didn't read the actual report, but just the memo that the McCain camp sent to the press.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/palin-makes-tro.html


By the way, Obama has been running ads in Houston on the local stations for about 3 weeks now. McCain ran some ads for about a week, then I guess his funding ran out.

mc9cain said...

This story (from Oct 9 in the NYT) about how Obama is different than Pres. Clinton is really good.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09web-healy.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Josh said...

The Truth About ACORN.

When you read the truth about this ACORN situation you realize it's just another neo-con smear tactic. It's really disgusting when you think about it. These guys do real vote fraud and then accuse their opponents of doing vote fraud (when they aren't.)

mc9cain said...

brian,
Obama must have so much money to be advertising in Texas. That's great! Since Texas is expected to go McCain, are people engaged in the election there and do you think the ads would change any minds?

mc9cain said...

New thread. 5.9% for McCain!!!!!!!

fred said...

new thread

pygmy_owl said...

Wow. CNN is complete bullshit. They've just played a video of Castro saying that the US is racist and that Obama won't win because we're racist. (a) Castro is a dick and (b) does CNN play all of Castro's speeches about the United States, or is there something else behind this?

That Castro has said something is not news. That Castro says something about one of two candidates in our presidential race is only news because the news wants it to be news.

Wendy said...

"I just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don't have much of a vision for the future or you're not ready to articulate it."
-- John McCain, 2000

Jack-be-nimble said...

McCain will gain 2 points in the polls for every 500 dow points. Today alone, he will close two more points. Another 1000 points and its a tie game.

John said...

OK, this is barely on topic as it relates to:
* McCain's advertising
* 538.com
As if Nate will really read or answer this at the bottom of an old thread, but anyhow . . .

What's UP with the McCain*Palin banner ads on 538.com? There seem to be two in rotation. One has both McCain and Palin ("Country First") and the other just Palin ("A Proven Maverick").

But NEVER NEVER a McCain only banner . . .

Oh, well. Thanks for funding 538.com anyhow!!!

(This is great news!!! for JOHN MCCAIN!!!) lol

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