9.01.2008

Sarah Palin: Compassionate Conservative?

The essential appeal of Sarah Palin can be summarized in two words: compassionate conservative. She is perhaps as socially conservative as any politician ever placed onto a major-party ticket -- something which the right very much notices, and appreciates. But she does not necessarily come across that way to voters who might be turned off by such positions. Perhaps it is her unassuming style, and perhaps it is her strong biography; people see Palin as a compassionate person, and therefore they probably see her as a compassionate politician.

Pulling off this "trick" is hardly the exclusive domain of conservatives; I was an advocate for Kathleen Sebelius as Barack Obama's VP in large part because Sebelius's presentation and demeanor make her seem more moderate than she really is. Nevertheless, it is something the left needs to counteract if they want to turn Palin into a liability for McCain.

But is wanting to teach creation in public schools (in addition to evolution) really that far outside of the mainstream? How about something like swapping sex-education programs with abstinence-only initiatives? Below are five somewhat controversial positions that Palin holds, and their standing in the American electorate at large.

The Issue: Evolution

Palin’s Position: Although Palin’s personal views on evolution are ambiguous, she favors teaching creationism along with evolution in public schools (source).

America’s Position: A USA Today/Gallup poll in June 2007 reported that 53 percent of Americans believe that evolution is definitely or probably true, as opposed to 44 percent who think it’s definitely or probably false. More relevant to Palin’s position, however, a Pew Research poll in July 2006 showed that Americans favor teaching creationism along with evolution in schools by a 58-35 margin (source).

Conclusion: Although this fact will annoy many liberals – including yours truly – Palin’s views are squarely within the American mainstream.

The Issue: Global Warming

Palin’s Position: She does not believe that global warming is manmade (source). In addition, in an interview in May with Fox’s Neil Cavuto, Palin expressed skepticism that climate change is occurring at all:

We don`t believe that this speculation, again unprecedented, on computer modeling could forecast the effects of climate change, to the degree that leaves us in a comfortable position. It`s just too far out into the future, this speculative modeling (source).
America’s Position: An ABC News study in July showed that an 80-18 majority of Americans believe that global temperatures have been rising. A CNN poll in June broke responses down into three categories: 54 percent believe that global warming is real and manmade, 22 percent believe it is real but not manmade, and 23 percent describe global warming as a “theory that has not yet been proven” (source).

Conclusion: If Palin believes in global warming but does not attribute it to manmade causes, her views are at most somewhat out of the mainstream. If she does not believe in global warming at all, her views are strongly out of the mainstream.

The Issue: Hate Crimes

Palin’s Position: Opposes proposals to expand hate-crimes statutes to cover sexual orientation, and seems to imply that hate-crimes statutes are superfluous, period (“No [I do not believe in expanding hate-crimes statutes], as I believe all heinous crime is based on hate”). (source).

America’s Position: In a May 2007 Gallup poll, Americans favor hate crimes statutes by a 78-18 margin. When the definition of hate crimes is expanded to include sexual orientation, support diminishes slightly, but such statues are still favored by a 68-27 majority (source).

Conclusion: Palin’s position is well outside of the mainstream. Note: McCain also opposes expanding hate-crimes statutes to cover sexual orientation.

The Issue: Abortion

Palin’s Position: Believes abortion should be illegal “With the exception of a doctor’s determination that the mother’s life would end if the pregnancy continued” (source). Palin also said that she’d be opposed to abortion even if her daughter had been sexually assaulted (source).

America’s Position: Although most polling shows that Americans are pro-choice by only narrow pluralities or majorities, tolerance for abortion increases substantially in cases where there are mitigating factors. In particular, an October 2007 FOX/Opinion Dynamics poll says that by a 70-21 margin, Americans believe that abortion should be legal if the pregnancy was the result of rape or incest. A CBS News poll, also conducted in October 2007, revealed similar numbers: just 16 percent of Americans share Palin’s position that abortion should be legal only in order to save the mother’s life, while another 4 percent believed that abortion should be illegal in all cases (source).

Conclusion: Palin’s position is far outside of the mainstream.

The Issue: Sex Education

Palin’s Position: Would replace sex-ed programs with abstinence-only programs (source).

America’s Position: A broad consensus around the teaching of sex education has existed for decades, with 85 percent of Americans favoring sex-ed in schools as early as 1985 (source). The numbers appear to have increased since, as a 2004 poll conducted by NPR, the Kaiser Family Foundation, and the Kennedy School of Government showed that 90 percent of Americans believe that sex education is a “very important” or “somewhat important” part of the school curriculum, whereas only 7 percent believe that sex education should not be taught at all. In the same survey, just 15 percent of Americans supported abstinence-only programs (source).

Conclusion: Palin’s position is far outside of the mainstream.

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Liberals have often been reluctant to try and play offense on cultural issues. But Palin holds a number of positions that are in opposition to 70/30, 80/20 or even 90/10 majorities of the American public. Consider, by comparison, that about 34 percent of Americans favor legalizing marijuana (source), a position which seems to be completely untenable in candidates for national office, but which is far more "mainstream" than many of Palin's positions. To fail to go after these things would be political malpractice.

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UPDATE: More fodder for Palinophobes: CNN polling says she'd lose 54-41 in a head-to-head matchup against Joe Biden.

More fodder for Palinophiles: Check out this debate footage from 2006. She's pretty good!

515 comments

michael said...

Now that the news has broken that her unmarried teen daughter is pregnant, the Palins are starting to look like Appalachia North, breathtakingly irresponsible. I cannot pretend to know the mind of conservative evangelicals, but can't imagine it's a GOOD thing that her daughter got knocked up. On the heels of her astonishingly risky decision to take a 22 hour flight AFTER her water broke, and the very real mess of troopergate, I cannot see how this helps McCain overall, and speaks once again to his lack of judgment and his shoot from the hip temperament on important decisions. This is truly ominous when one thinks his finger could be on the button. Very scary...

michael said...

Not to mention that, with his poor health and advanced age, HER finger could be on the nuclear button!!!

Todd Dugdale said...

From usatoday:
"Whatever their views on their qualifications, voters say neither Palin nor Biden will have much impact on their vote. Two of three registered voters, 67%, say putting Palin on the ticket won't affect their vote; 72% say that of Biden.

Of those who say the running mates will make a difference, 18% say Palin makes them more likely to vote for McCain, 11% less likely. That net-positive impact of 7 points is similar to Biden's: 14% said his pick made them more likely to vote for Obama, 7% less likely. "

So Sarah Palin is big game-changer, right?
She appeals only to the base, as dozens have pointed out here for days. She will not win the West, she will not win the mythical "PUMA vote", and (as other polls have noted) she actually makes women slightly less likely to vote for McCain.

realistxxx said...

Linguist said...
Sarah and Todd Palin have issued the following statement: "We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby..."

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If my 17 year old daughter became pregnant or my son got someone pregant I would not be proud of them... I'd be furious and very concerned about their futures.

But hey, those are just my liberal family values. I happen to believe that almost all teenagers just aren't prepared for parenthood, marriage etc.

eve said...

Will McCain lose his convention bump due to the baby bump?

Virginia Conservative said...

What McCain should do:

Have a quiet discussion with Palin and let her know in no uncertain terms that if she doesn't pull herself from the ticket with a B.S. reason like "I've decided to spend more time with my family" that she will have NO FUTURE in the Republican Party.

stop_the_stutter said...

realistixxxxxx,

so you would just toss out the baby then, right?

eve said...

I don't know what all I would feel, realistxxx, but proud wouldn't be on the list.

it's sad to think of the girl marrying at 17.

Scott L said...

The best part about her "family values" is that now her 17 year old daughter is pregnant. Not recently pregnant, she's been pregnant for 5 months now, and is a senior in high school. I'm glad that abstinence-only sex education thing is working out just as well as an anorexic cooking class would.

stop_the_stutter said...

Where did it say WHEN she would be married?

Virginia Conservative said...

The only silver lining on this is there is a 10% chance since this was released in the midst of a hurricane, people will forget about it in two days. Maybe.

Jinnantonix said...

@ VC --

Bingo. There's an easy way out. "I've decided that what I need to do is to be the parent I've always strived to be. Although I can still serve Alaska and help my daughter, the calling of the United States takes a back seat to the needs of my family. Therefore, I regret that I will have to forego the chance to make history and to make change with the next President of the United States, John McCain."

Fade to black. Cut. Print. Move on.

Spin machine kicks in. Play up the family angle and duty to family before nation. Whole in hull sealed.

Delay the convention because of the hurricane -- again, easy to do. Then make a nice, careful pick.

But he won't. The talking heads will yap all night at the convention.

Matthew H said...

VC:

The picture of Bristol with an obvious baby bump is from March 9th.

So if she were 5 months pregnant now, she would have been a couple of weeks pregnant at most then. She looks more like 7 months.

My sister's husband's mom did that...had 5 kids in 4 years with no multiple births. But then, they were kids 4-8, not her first two. God, this has to be tough on a 16-17 year old body.

That assumes, of course, that she was 7 months pregnant early last March, had the kid in April (a couple of weeks early), and got pregnant again in June. They picked 5 months because by the time January rolls around and people have noticed that she still hasn't had the kid, the election would be over.

PMOC said...

Wow. Palin must REALLY be qualified.
Afterall, McCain says he KNEW about her daughters pregnancy. She must have told him in one of their two phone calls. So I guess NONE of the other potential vp candidates were even close enough to Palin that the knowledge of this baggage couldn't put them over the top. Yeah, he knew. Sure.

Bill P. said...

Dear Conservative Nutjobs:

Things we can't explain aren't the work of an invisible super being just because we can't explain them yet. It would be irresponsible to teach supernatural myths in our public schools.

Sincerely,

Rational People

eve said...

stop -- it's a sad situation -- some people do choose adoption so that a baby can be raised by loving and mature parents. That is not throwing out the baby. Some families have the grandparents become the parents.

Rhys said...

Exactly, jinn. That would be the responsible thing to do, and would even possibly improve Palin's standing for a future run.

If she persists with this she may well be through in politics. It's really embarrassing.

Scott L said...

"There is abundant evidence that the non-man-made factors are perhaps significantly greater than the man-made factors, especially cyclicality of sun patterns, which show a much greater correlation to temperature change on earth than any of the man-made factors."

Except that they don't. Solar output peaked out with the solar cycle that ended back around 1950. Its been decreasing since then, all while temperatures have increased.

Besides, if it was the sun, it would have a particular signal - warming stratosphere and troposphere. We have not seen this, we've seen a cooling stratosphere and a warming troposphere - a tell-tale sign that greenhouse gases are increasing in the stratosphere and causing warming at the surface.

Virginia Conservative said...

Look, I believe in theistic evolution. Does that make me a nut job, bigots?

WA Indie said...

Linguist,

that's what I was thinking when I read that.

Choice?

But isn't Palin against there being a choice in this situation?

This thing gets more bizarre by the minute.

And hey midpointman, fervently AGREE with you about abstinence and contraceptive not being mutually exclusive, but you need to convince the rest of the GOP, including Palin, about that big guy. ;) What you say on that matter is infinitely sensible.

I do understand the risks in dumping her from the ticket, but my goodness, this story has staying power and I think Virginia Conservative's point about "what else is there out there" is a good one. Vetting should have caught this! If it did, then bad decision, especially when there are other qualified GOP females out there as has been discussed already. Ack!

But this issue will not go away unless they hid Bristol from the media (they've done some of that already). People will be reminded every time she's on stage about this and all of these questions about parenting, being able to be VP with so many family needs, blah, blah, blah, fair or not will stay in the public mind.

Or they can hide her, after awhile that becomes a story in itself.

And does this mean the whole mono thing was a lie?

MidPointMan said...

All lefty hypocrites -

Would this be a story if it had been the son of a male politician who was rumored to have a pregnant girlfriend.

No, you would not even know about it.

You are turning the Democrats into the party of misogyny.

That won't win elections, promise me.

eve said...

If McCain dumps her, the next pick will automatically look better by comparison to Palin than the same person would have a week ago.

Virginia Conservative said...

He can't pick a woman again, if she leaves the ticket. That will look way too much like pandering.

Rhys said...

"If McCain dumps her, the next pick will automatically look better by comparison to Palin than the same person would have a week ago."

Yep. Some have even said this whole thing might have been staged.

stop_the_stutter said...

eve,

Realistixxxxxxxx implied that he disagreed with the decision to have the baby, not the baby's future after birth.

I commented on that premise.

DCM in FL said...

Re: Palin's daughter pregnant

Do the math. Today theu announce that Bristol is 'about 5 months prgnant'. Baby Trig was born on April 18 - 4 1/2 months ago or in GOPer speak almost 5 months.

Bristol skipped out of school from lare Dec, 07 thru when baby trig was born in April '08 - supposedly due to a bad case of mono [which is the catholic girl school excuse of choice for 'home for unwed mothers' to use].

Either Bristol got pregnant at exactly the same time as Trig was born to her mom... which still seems unlikely - or she is pregnant for the second time.

Plus apparently now there is evidence that Bristol is the one who was going to pre-natal care at Drs last winter, and that she got a citation from the police for an accident turning into a clinic.

Sorry folks, this is all just too weird to be believed at face value.

But if Palin was actually pregnant while in TX giving a speech, then it confirms that she is the world's worst mother for taking such a high-risk trip and leaving the children home alone to get into trouble too.

Still how could Palin not notify the airline when she flew BOTH ways to TX, and how could no one notice that she was 7 months pregnant ? Nothing about her story makes sense, but today Palin decides to throw her daughter to the wolves by publicizing the new pregnancy. Some mother indeed ! Abstinence & no condoms policy in action !

No wonder her mother-in-law is not supporting her !

BTW - today's tracker #'s comfirm Nate's hypothesis that he should dump the convention 'bounce' adjustment that was added to the model last week. It is adding nothing but more noise, so time to correct the model IMO.

stop_the_stutter said...

See how much more organized hurricane preparedness is when we have a Republican Governor?

MidPointMan said...

If McCain dumps Palin, he won't get A SINGLE woman voting for him.


A man would not be booted if his som knocked up a cheerleader.

You libs are bringing out a huge double standard and proving you have no respect for feminists rights.

I love your hypocrisy.

gougef said...

VC
"Look, I believe in theistic evolution. Does that make me a nut job, bigots?"

No, unless you expect me to believe it, and ridicule me if I don't.

I will admit that I have explored the same concepts without conclusions.

WA Indie said...

Not in my opinion Virginia Con, I subscribe to a similar belief system, but am fine with evolution being taught in schools. Creationism relies too much on faith for me to be comfortable with it in public education (even though I'm a Christian I have a firm belief in the separation of Church and State).

Oh, where to go from here. The Palin dumping scenario listed by one other poster would do much to help things, but geez is it risky. As some others pointed out, you might still hurt your chances more if you dump Palin than keep her. But that of course assumes nothing else bad comes out, and that this story goes away (any picture of Bristol will bring it back up).

America is distracted by a hurricane, the new TV series, and NFL opener. This is a BAD week for a convention. Delay it until next week and think a day or two on what to do about Palin.

Rhys said...

"You libs are bringing out a huge double standard and proving you have no respect for feminists rights."

What color is the sky in your world? LOL!

MidPointMan said...

DCM -

Home alone? They have a father, genius.

Wow...the lack of thought in some of these posts...

So only a MOM can stay home with the kids?

A DAD cannot?

When did Democrats start to HATE WOMEN so much?

You should be ashamed for what you just said, misogynist...

Virginia Conservative said...

I think there is some room for what the term "creationism" means to joe six pack. He could very well take the term to include theistic evolution.

realistxxx said...

stop_the_stutter said...
realistixxxxxx,

so you would just toss out the baby then, right?


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Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

I would not be proud of my kids for being irresponsible with their own lives or those of their new baby.

Keeping the baby is an honorable thing to do. Making the baby was not.

Sarah Palin's family needs her at home to take care of her special needs child and to make sure her pregnant daughter gets support. And she has other daughters too. I cannot imagine running a national campaign with family having this many high intensity issues.

eve said...

"Would this be a story if it had been the son of a male politician who was rumored to have a pregnant girlfriend."

Running as veep or for prez? Yes, it would.

It's a big story because Palin is running for veep.

Virginia Conservative said...

And when I'm talking about evolution, I'm referring to man's body. The soul is still created by God.

MidPointMan said...

The fact that the leftists are spending their time talking about Bristol Palin suggests one thing.


They are out of ideas....

beowulf said...

It would be unthinkable for McCain to remove Palin from the ticket, he would be done. That being said, I find it equally silly to hear people say that this will hurt the Obama campaign. The idea of a VP pick is to reinforce your key messages and strengthen your ticket - this flies directly in the face of much of the Republican message in terms of family values, morality, and even sex education/birth control issues. I don't think it is devastating, but it will dominate the MSM for awhile.

Blame said...

midpoint

"Every parent preaches abstinence to their kids. Are you insane? You apparently have never had a daughter."

I am the father of a 14 year old daughter, and I have more brains than to preach abstinance.

I have told her about the legal, medical, and emotional dangers of sex at her age. She knows all about contaception, and she knows she can visit our doctor without our knowledge.

I have also made it clear that should she have a baby before her education is finished, there is no way we will let her stop. She can see her baby after she finishes her homework.

She has decided to wait to till she is 18 for sex, and definitly doesn't want a baby she will not be allowed to look after full time.

Preaching to a teanager is counterproductive. They are, after all at the age of rebelion.

It is better to give them all the facts, and let them work it out for themselves.

I will trust to my daughter's finely tuned sense of self interest. She is not going to be presured into having sex before she is ready any more than she is going to smoke.

Palin's daughter is a perfect example of the "my daughter is a good girl so she doesn't need access to contraception or sex education" school of thought.

MidPointMan said...

Eve -

No it would not, because there would be no evidence HE knocked anyone up.

HE does not get pregnant! A HE can hide it.

A SHE cannot.

Did your parents teach you how this works?

GaMeS said...

Re: "Slander"

Seriously, Gov. Palin and right-wingers, I dare you -- I double-dog dare you -- to sue someone for slander on this.

First order of business: Request for discovery. Oh, look at all those medical records ...

It's so much easier to shout slander than to actually sue someone for it; after all, for it to be slander it must be untrue, and you would have to be able (and willing) to prove that this is the case in court and under oath, right?

So, put your money where your mouth is. I super-duper-triple dare you. :)

bryen193 said...

"Why do we care THIS MUCH about a pregnant daughter???"

Because the number one rationale for the Palin pick according to the republicans is that it "energizes the base". The republican evangelical christian base cares alot about issues of abstinance, premarital sex, birth control, and parenting. Are they still energized by Sarah Palin who is now public documentation of the failure of their prescriptions? We'll see.

stop_the_stutter said...

realistixxxx,

You really are an asshole aren't you?

You put out a snippet that stated that Sarah Palin was proud of her daughters DECISION to HAVE the kid. Not her decision to have SEX.

You said the opposite.

Before insulting people, try making sense....or at the very least read what you are responding to.

eve said...

How is this about "feminist rights"?

Exactly what "right" do men or women have that you are talking about here?

Jinnantonix said...

@ midpointman --

And your defense of the father staying home only points out one thing -- you don't know your facts.

Mr. Palin said he would quit his job when Momma got the Governor's job. She said it was their commitment to family values. Only he didn't. NOBODY stayed home. Mouth. Open. Foot.

Not true that no women would vote for him. The Evangelical vote and conservative vote won't switch and won't vote for Paul. So he'll be just fine if he can spin it right.

Nice decisions, Senator.

eve said...

well said, bryen

Rhys said...

I'm a man.

If I had a 17-year-old daughter who was pregnant while I was running a platform of "conservative family values" I would not even CONSIDER getting into the middle of a presidential race.

That's because I care about my family. Sarah Palin does not.

And that has nothing to do with gender. It has to do with character.

MidPointMan said...

Blane -

So you tell your 14 year old daughters to go have sex?

Nice, where do they live? HAHAHA.

Just kidding.

You can tell them not to do it, and also tell them about birth control.

Why is this so hard to understand.

I cannot believe you tell your 41 year old daughters to have sex...that is parental negigence.

Jinnantonix said...

@ midpointman --

And, actually, if a Dem VP candidate knocked up a cheerleader I would be saying he needed to be dropped as well. It's about political realities, not morals.

Rhys said...

"So you tell your 14 year old daughters to go have sex?"

Midpoint, have I expressed to you recently my sincere appreciation for so nicely supporting the facts about rightwingers being, uh, intellectually challenged?

MidPointMan said...

rhys -

What if you had a 17 year old SON? Who was only RUMORED to have gotten a girl pregnant?

You see, men can get away with it because it will always be a RUMOR about them. Their bellies do not show when they knocked somebody up.

Such hypocrites...all you lefties.

Virginia Conservative said...

This is horrible because McCain may lose the only weapon he had--making the election a referendum on Obama.

The sooner Palin leaves the sooner he can get back to making the election about Obama and not about he and his running mate.

MidPointMan said...

If you are not telling yuor kids to abstain, you are telling them to have sex.

It is simple.

"Sweetie, after you pass your drivers test, maybe you and your boyfriend can get a motel room to celebrate. Just let me by the condoms for you sweetie."

That is how you guys do parenting?

WOW!

gougef said...

Stop_the_stutter

"See how much more organized hurricane preparedness is when we have a Republican Governor?"

After Katrina, DHHS instituted a nationwide system of response with intense training. You are seeing the results when you a qualified person in charge instead of lackey like Brownie. Nothing to do with the Governor.

While I have your attention, it is despicable to make fun of a childhood problem like stuttering.

Have you ever heard of William F. Buckley, considered one of the greatest conservative commentators of all time? He spoked much the same deliberate manner that Obama does which is not unusual for a "thinking" person, unlike TPM's (talking point morons).

Virginia Conservative said...

I don't agree with shotgun marriages. If I had a daughter and she got pregnant the baby would be put up for adoption. I can't imagine marrying the girl I was dating at 17! *shudders*

DCM in FL said...

Again, on how McCain selected Palin, in the new PEOPLE magazine interview @
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20222685_2,00.html

Cindy McCain claims she was involved !!!

When asked if she was ready to be VP, Palin answered, "Absolutely. Yup, yup." !!!


And McCain says that her PTA work qualifies Palin for the job !!!

You can't make this stuff up folks !!!
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"PEOPLE was there for an exclusive backstage interview with the McCain and Palin families suddenly joined in the campaign for the White House. Sarah Palin, in ruby red peep-toe platform heels that showed off a pink French-style pedicure, first ducked into a holding room to change the diaper of her just-up-from-a-nap 4 1/2-month-old son, Trig.

The two families were all smiles..."

Q - Meghan [McCain], what did you tell your father about his selection?

MEGHAN MCCAIN: It's girl power and you know I'm all about that. She's very smart, has a sweet family. Her son's in the military and my brothers are in the military. We have a lot in common. This is my dream choice. I almost started crying on stage – and I am not a crier – when they were talking about this being the anniversary of women's suffrage. I couldn't be more proud. It's also a reinvention of the Republican Party. She's such a cool role model – and she's got great shoes! (Laughs)

Q -Mr. Palin, what does Sen. McCain need to know about working with your wife?

TODD PALIN: She's a hard worker and she's not wired normal. (Laughter)

Q - Sen. McCain, of all the candidates you considered, what drew you to her?

JOHN: Obviously, I found her to be very intelligent and very well-versed on the issues. But I think the important thing was that she's a reformer. She's taken on special interests since she ran for the PTA and the city council and mayor. The courage, I guess, is what most impressed me.

Q - Mrs. McCain, how much did you weigh in on this process?

CINDY MCCAIN: I was part of it. I was very enthusiastic [about Palin]. <<<<<

Q - Mr. Palin, you have this tiny baby with special needs. Do you worry that people may wonder if she'll be giving short shrift to her family?

TODD: She's heard that her whole ife – the challenges of being a female and mother in the work force. I remember the first time she ran for mayor one of her fellow council members told her you can't run because you've got three negatives: Track, Bristol and Willow. Those are the three kids we had at the time. So when you tell her that kind of stuff, she just gets fired up. We're an Alaska family that adapts.

CINDY: I disagree with anyone who would say she can't do both. Any woman who's been in a situation where they are working and have children know that you give 300 percent; no one will be slighted in any of this, least of all her baby. She has a lot of energy, she's a woman with great drive and great vision.

Q - A woman on the ticket is what a lot of Hillary Clinton voters wanted to see. What's your message to women who might see a second shot at shattering the glass ceiling?

SARAH: Certainly in this election cycle, women aren't finished yet. And women can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all.

JOHN: I think that Sarah appeals to a lot of voters – I think because of her independence, because of her reform agenda and her record of balancing both family and service. It is motivation to not just Clinton voters but to lots of voters.

Q - Given her young age and relatively short resume, why is she any more ready to be president than Sen. Barack Obama?

JOHN: I don't think it's a short resume. She first ran for office back in 1992. I don't know what Senator Obama was doing then, but the first time she ran was 1992. That's 16 years. I think that's a pretty, pretty event-filled and record-filled resume.

SARAH: And I haven't had too many years other than that to fill up yet.

JOHN: There you go.

Q - Do you feel ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency?

SARAH: Absolutely. Yup, yup. <<<<<
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There is more, but this entire interview is just plain SCARY by showing how the VP selection process did not work as it should... IMHO

bryen193 said...

It will be interesting to see if McCain maintains his habit of kicking women to the curb if they get a little disfigured...

MidPointMan said...

@ midpointman --

And, actually, if a Dem VP candidate knocked up a cheerleader I would be saying he needed to be dropped as well. It's about political realities, not morals.


HAHAHA...right.

We are talking about a DEM VP candidate's son, not the candidate.

After the John Edwards thing for you guys to throw stones about VP candidates is...

RIDICULOUS!

Todd Dugdale said...

geoff wrote:
Obama's speech on Thursday night, as dampened by Palin's announcement, resulted in a so-so daily poll result from Friday's polling (as reported Saturday). That number stayed the same yesterday (both trackers then included thurs fri sat numbers, still including one day of the Clinton bounce). Today's Gallup numbers will be very insightful as to whether Obama can hold the Clinton bounce as against the Palin excitement.

Well, geoff, that new Gallup poll is up there.
It's 49/43.

So, if this is "insightful", does it mean that the "Palin bounce" is non-existent? It makes just as much sense to say that the Palin pick gave Obama an extra point as it does to say that Palin gave McCain another point.

Obama leads by six points. You can talk about "depressing" a bounce all that you want, but McCain has only led one point for one day for the entire month. He's dropped to some of lowest numbers for the month since the DNC, while Obama has reached new highs.

But you think Palin will make all of the difference up?

Obama consolidated his base at the DNC, and that base is a lot larger than the GOP's base. That's why all of this "PUMA" nonsense is so ridiculous. Obama can afford to let 15% of his base go because his base is so large that he can win on 85% of it.

McCain has to get nearly every single Republican out there, so he is forced to pander and flip-flop and say conflicting things depending on whoever is in front of him that day.

You Republicans just don't understand that the base that you barely won in 2004 has shrunk 10% or more, while the Democrats' has increased by 10%. That's why you continue to see Democrat disunity as fatal. It's what makes them stronger, though.

MidPointMan said...

bryen -

Apparently he picked this one up off the curb...he knew before he picked her.

It is so funny that now a daughter's reproductive status is a qualification to you guys.

How funny. Comical, really.

...out of ideas. The left is out of ideas.

stop_the_stutter said...

I am not energized about Sarah Palin because of her daughter...maybe some are...but that is a non-issue. A mother cannot keep a 17-year-old free of making sometimes unwise decisions. Kids are kids...

I am energized about Sarah Palin because of Sarah Palin.

Rhys said...

"What if you had a 17 year old SON? Who was only RUMORED to have gotten a girl pregnant?"

Nope, wouldn't do that to my son either.

You've reduced yourself to blithering frothing lies in just about every post.

Rhys said...

"I am energized about Sarah Palin because of Sarah Palin."

You're energized about Sarah Palin because you're a sheep. You would have voted for McCain if he had picked a bag of compost as his VP.

MidPointMan said...

If you guys go after Palin on this, and you will because you can't help yourselves...

JOHN EDWARDS will be thrown back in your face.

He was your VP candidate and he was a philandering scumbag who cheated on his wife with cancer.

Up against that, Sarah Palin is untouchable.

The contrast will not serve your interests well, and women are already hating Edwards.

Wait until he gets wrapped around Obama's neck.

Obama will be toxic to women.

beowulf said...

VC - I actually like the discussions you are involved in when you are really serious...do you seriously believe McCain would/should remove her from his ticket? One of the oldest VP slogans is that it is the first decision a President makes...removing his first presidential decision would be game-ending.

stop_the_stutter said...

todd dugale,

Three errors in your post.

1. Obama has NOT reached new highs. Just tied his old high. This is significant because it is 49...still just shy of a majority.

2. This is a smaller one. You are right, McCain has only lead for one day...but it was by a slightly more significant 2 points...not one.

3. McCain is not at new lows. His low was 39. He hit that once. His level is basically where it has been.

What all this means is that McCain supporters are still McCain supporters. Obama has perhaps picked up a few leaners. We need more time to see if he can consolidate at this level...or by some change of fate, crack 50 for once.

Jinnantonix said...

@ midpointman --

You're 100% right about Edwards. But he wasn't quite the role model that your buddy Newt was. Newt actually served his wife who was DYING of cancer divorce papers.

BTW, guys, there's a new thread.

Virginia Conservative said...

Beowulf-

It just makes me wonder what else is out there. As long as he says that it was HER fault and says she lied to him, throwing her under the bus, his judgement won't come into question.

bryen193 said...

"he knew before he picked her."

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Could we at least agree that, if Palin should decided to drop out because of "family reasons", that might be an indication that John McCain didn't really know?

stop_the_stutter said...

You're energized about Sarah Palin because you're a sheep. You would have voted for McCain if he had picked a bag of compost as his VP.


I would vote for a sheep over Obama, definitely. A sheep wouldn't raise my taxes and make other poor economic decisions which....dare I say...are based on pandering to the "poor".

Virginia Conservative said...

"Could we at least agree that, if Palin should decided to drop out because of "family reasons", that might be an indication that John McCain didn't really know?"

Yes.

nkpolitics1279 said...

What is the cause of teen pregnacies ie Bristol"JUNO" Pallin in Juneau.
Is it Republicans preaching absitence only education or opposing birth control,contraception or is it these movies such as JUNO,or hearing about Jamie Lynn Spears getting knocked up the age 17.

MidPointMan said...

From Reuters...meaning it will be in every paper tomorrow...


McCain officials said the news of the daughter's pregnancy was being released to rebut what one aide called "mud-slinging and lies" circulating on liberal blog sites.

According to these rumors, Sarah Palin had faked a pregnancy and pretended to have given birth in May to her fifth child, a son named Trig who has Down syndrome. The rumor was that Trig was actually Bristol Palin's child and that Sarah Palin was the grandmother.

A senior McCain campaign official said the McCain camp was appalled that these rumors had not only been spread around liberal blog sites and partisan Democrats, but also were the subject of heightened interest from mainstream news media.

"The despicable rumors that have been spread by liberal blogs, some even with Barack Obama's name in them, is a real anchor around the Democratic ticket, pulling them down in the mud in a way that certainly juxtaposes themselves against their 'campaign of change,'" a senior aide said.



THAT MAKES THE DEMS AND OBAMA LOOK SUPER!

That rumor you guys concocted gave Palin a get out of jail free card.

Way to go!

DCM in FL said...

BTW - it still looks likely that Sarah Palin herself might have already been pregnant [with 19+ y/o Track who graduated in '07] when she ran off & eloped in secret before a judge with no witnesses exactly 20 years ago this week.

So that would help explain how Bristol is quite likely to do the same thing now as her mom did 20 years agoIMO.

But curious that now Palin claims her daughter is planning to get married - even though there was no apparent intention to do so before the announcement today...

A shotgun wedding indeed for political purposes.

Sounds kinda like Charlie Crist who announced this summer that he would get married to his beard in Dec - hoping that would squash the rumors confirming his sexuality so that McCain would choose him for VP. That did not work so I doubt he will follow through with the wedding. Apparently, McCain's vetter decided that Crist had too much baggage for VP - but they missed the boat on Palin with all these red flags out there already...

Todd Dugdale said...

VC wrote:
Would this be a story if it had been the son of a male politician who was rumored to have a pregnant girlfriend.

I honestly don't know, but it's completely beside the point. If you are running as a social conservative in this country, you place yourself under a higher moral standard.

That's not the Democrats' fault; it's the Republicans' fault. This new development won't cost her much in the putative support she would have allegedly gained among Democrats, but it will make a big difference among Republicans.
She was picked to appeal to the social conservative base, after all.

Virginia Conservative said...

DCM take off your partisan hat for a second and tell me, how competent is Charlie Crist as a Governor?

Blame said...

Midpointman.

I guess you are not to hot on reading. I have NOT told my daughter to have sex. I have just told her the pros & cons, and let her work it out for herself.

I take it you are a parent too, so let me give you some advice about teanagers. Their sense of self interest is far better developed than their obedience.

I would tell you where she lives but a kick in the balls often offends.... and that is what you would get from her with that atitude.... err just kidding back.

DCM in FL said...

VA CON

Chain Gang Charlie is a great politician but a terrible governor/leader

He is the ultimate pandering hypocrite in action - but a great politician since he jumps on popular issues then rides them ointo the ground for his advantage.

He is ruining the schools in FL even more than Jeb did, he has lied on taxes & insurance, he flippedon drilling, he is losing his popularity now too BTW

MidPointMan said...

VC -

Palin cannot drop out now. If she goes it will look like she was forced.

Do you want McCain to lose every single female voter? He would if it looks like she was forced to go.

Taking your advice, he will lose for sure.

stop_the_stutter said...

blame,

A good parent would do pretty much what you have done IMO.

I have a 9-yr old so I'm not to that point yet. But I am not so naive as to believe I can stop her from doing what she wills to do. I can only give her as much real life info as I can so she has the ability to make sound decisions in life. That's what a parent does, guides. You can't control.

Virginia Conservative said...

Jeb Bush would have been a good President. It is a shame he wasn't elected in 94 first, he was the one in line not George.

Virginia Conservative said...

Midpoint-

The shotgun wedding aspect of this is going to alienate moderate women as it is.

DCM in FL said...

Jeb is slightly better than George - but he also is not a compassionate conservative & gives undue influenece to lobbyists & cronies.

But he is definitely likeable & more reasonable than George. I doubt that Jeb would have chosen Cheney - which was George's worst mistake IMHO

MidPointMan said...

Blame -

You told her the "PROS" of pre-marital teenage sex?

HAHAHA.

What did you tell her, your favorite positions?

That is so laughable. Leave it to yuor 14 year old daughter to figure out...right.

"Honey, I know you are only 14, but you are old enough to make this decision...by the way, I left that Kama Sutra book on your bed if you decide to do it"

ARE YOU NUTS?

Virginia Conservative said...

I'll also say George Sr. is currently underrated as a President and his stock will probably rise in coming decades among historians.

MidPointMan said...

VC -

Why? Moderate women hate weddings?

Please elaborate...

Virginia Conservative said...

Midpointman-

No, they generally hate the idea of being forced to marry the guy they were dating at a welp 17.

MidPointMan said...

stop_the_stutter -

I can assure you that taking no position on premarital sex with your daughter will increase the odds she does it.

You are not doing anything to protect her.

It is true that plenty of kids will ignore their parents advice...eventually.

Better they do it at 17, 18, 19 than at 14...

That is the point. If you do nothing to dissuade them, they will rely on their hormones alone.

I have no issue with teaching common sense, but the idea that a responsible parent tells their teenage daughter that having sex at 14 is a reasonable decision to make is a complete joke.

A complete joke...

MidPointMan said...

VC -

Who says this was a forced marriage?

You are pulling things out of thin air.

Kids get married in these situations about 80% of the time.

The assumption that this is a forced wedding is a stretch.

beowulf said...

I really am trying not to to be partisan here, but this is not a story you can spin to help McCain and hurt Obama. I also don't think it has the impact that many others do...it will give many evangelicals pause and it severely undercuts several key conservative messages, but will it really stop people from voting for McCain? I am not convinced. What it does do though is:

1) Change the story - Gustav was and is the story, but not for long.

2) Kill momentum - any momentum McCain had will be gone.

3) Overshadows the convention - we saw with Obama what a 4 day campaign commercial in front of 30+ million people can do...the Republicans chance of that is gone.

Virginia Conservative said...

To my Democrat friends-

If you guys can't win now, you need to gay the way of the Federalists.

MidPointMan said...

Beowulf -

Evangelicals will see this from the Abortion angle. Bristol kept her baby and is getting married. They will sieze onto that angle of it.

They will delude themselves into loving this story because Palin's daughter is doing the right thing after doing the wrong thing.

The left will overreact, in typical fashion, and embarass themselves, as they did already.

The independents will shrug and say "live and let live" as they always do.

This is not an issue of substance, you are correct.

The only problem for Obama is that the McCain campaign is using the despicable rumors as cover for getting this out there harmlessly.

The DailyKos gave McCain a gift.

It won't hurt Obama directly...

...but indirectly it will only in the sense that it prevents this from hurting McCain.

MidPointMan said...

Beo -

I still think Gustav is the lead story, and that is actually a winner for the GOP at the moment.

This will get buried and only show up in a single news cycle. It will get mentioned along with the crazy DailyKos smear and the impact will be neutral.

...just my opinion.

Todd Dugdale said...

sts wrote:
McCain is not at new lows. His low was 39.

what I said was:
He's dropped to some of lowest numbers for the month since the DNC. I still maintain that is correct.

Obama has NOT reached new highs. Just tied his old high. This is significant because it is 49...still just shy of a majority.

You are right here on technical terms, I grant you that. What I meant (and what that sentence implied) is that he reached new highs for the month.

Nobody is going to get a majority in this election. Bush only got 51% in 2004, and that allegedly gave him a "mandate". But it's irrelevant since we rely on EV, and also since McCain is six points behind someone who is somehow "too unpopular" to break 50%.

This is a smaller one. You are right, McCain has only lead for one day...but it was by a slightly more significant 2 points...not one.

I stand corrected on that point. Thanks for checking my facts.

The bottom line is that geoff was pointing to the failure of Obama to rise above his record highs as some kind of indication that Palin is hurting him. I doubt that Palin was selected to hurt Obama; she was picked to help McCain with his base. And McCain is basically where he was before he picked Palin. Connect the dots.

nkpolitics1279 said...

Joe Biden (DE) got elected to the US Senate in 1972 at age 30 unseating a popular two term Republican incumbent Senator. He was re-elected to the US Senate in 1978,1984,1990,1996,and 2002 with 60% of the popular vote.
Biden ran for President in 1988,
Ranking Minority Member of Senate Judiciary Committee 1981-1987
Chairman of Judiciary Committee 1987-1995. Ranking Minority Member of Senate Judiciary Committee 1995-1997. Ranking Minority Member of Senate Foriegn Relations Committee 1997-2001. Chairmen of Senate Foriegn Relations Committee 2001-2003. Ranking Minority Member 2003-2007- Chairman of Senate Foriegn Relations Committee. Ran for President in 2008- was a third tier candidate but held his own in the debates.

John McCain got elected to the US Senate in 1986 running for an open seat vacated by Barry Goldwater. defeating a former state legislator by 20 percentage points. re-elected in 1992,1998,and 2004. ran for President in 2000. Chaired the Indian affairs committee- 1995-1997,2005-2007. Commerce Committee- 1997-2001. 2003-2005.
Armed Services. Ranking minority member 2007-present.

Barack Obama was a state Senator from Chicago when he ran for the US Senate in 2004- He had a tough primary against Blair Hull a wealthy millionare-IL's Jon Corzine and Dan Hynes a popular statewide elected official. Blair Hull's campaign got derailed because of evidence of adultery and spousal abuse. Obama won the Democratic nomination by building coalition of Blacks and White Liberals. His initial Republican opponent was Jack Ryan a wealthy businessman with zero political experience and ex husband of actress Jeri Ryan. If Ryan remained in the race and did not face the scandal- Obama would have still defeated Ryan. He ran for president in 2008- He was faced opposition from Hillary Clinton who was the national front runner and John Edwards- Obama won the Iowa Caucus- came close to winning NH and NV. Won South Carolina. won most of the February Super Tuesday Primary and Caucus States. Won every primary and caucuses in February. Obama won the Democratic Primary in June after all the contests were over he was ahead in the pledge delegate count and Super Delegates were comming towards his side.

Sarah Palin- ran for Governor of Alaska- in 2006 unseating the unpopular Frank Murkowski in the Primary. He beat former Governor Tony Knowles who just narrowly lost a US Senate Race in 2004 against Lisa Murkowski.

Blame said...

Midpointman

No I am not nuts. Are you?

Have you read the Kama Sutra? I have. There is not a lot about sex, but an awful lot about a moral code that is some thousands of years out of date.

Anyway. My daughter can find out about such stuff without my help. I certainly didn't see fit to mention such details. Every teanager knows more than enough about the mechanics of sex. What they don't learn is the emotional consiquences. (and judging by your posts you never leaned ether. You are coming across like the sort of puril boy I have warned my daughter about. For some boys there ARE no emotional consiquences).

No my words as to the pros were simple. Sex can be very nice (and before you critisize me for that. do you honestly believe there is a teanage who doesn't already know it, or would believe if I pretended otherwise?), but you can very easily end up feeling badly used.

What makes sex good is love, and it is important to be in a stable & loving relationship before you start. Especialy the first time.

Rhys said...

"JOHN EDWARDS will be thrown back in your face."

Go for it. Every time you do, Carol McCain will be thrown into yours.

Blame said...

If I am reading the polls correctly the main effect of the last few days is to make up a lot of minds.

Palin has swung a lot of the PUMA's from don't know to Obama, and Religious right fron don't know to McCain.

The combination of Biden & Palin pushed a few older voteres towards Obama.

Biden gained some who distrusted Obama's lack of experience, but push some Hillary fanatic over to McCain.

I would call the battle a draw, but stategicly Obama won. "Experience" is no longer amunition for McCain & Palin is probably a better target for negative campaigning than Biden.

newyorker2874999 said...

Governor Palin would foster the teaching of creationism - but only as a second opinion. In all likelihood, creationism was the only opinion that, as children, Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, Lincoln, et al were ever exposed to. And it certainly doesn't seem to have impaired their ability to think clearly or govern wisely.

journeyrose said...

I was appalled to hear this clip where Sara Palin laughs when a talk radio announcer calls one of her political rivals "a b**** and a cancer". The woman referred to is a cancer survivor.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=sara+palin+bitch+cancer&hl=en&emb=0#

The Anchorage Daily news reported this on January 25th, 2008 http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/293639.html

nebulaeric said...

You know what I hate about the GOP reaction to this? Not the way they're treating Sarah Palin and her daughter. They're behaving exactly the way someone should behave in those circumstances. The problem is that they don't behave this way with EVERYONE. When most people have a pregnant teenager its a sign of moral decay in America. But when Sarah Palin's kid has one it's a private family affair. When most gay couples have children, it's a blight on civilization, but when Dick Cheney's daughter does it, it's again a private family matter.

Let's not kid ourselves, if either Joe Biden or Barack Obama had a pregnant teenage daughter, the GOP would be all over it as evidence of their moral failings as parents. Republicans become remarkably flexible on family issues when life happens to them.

Steven said...

I am a father of two daughters, 16 and 14 years old. They are good kids, and both of them are high school cheerleaders. They are not yet dating which is fine with me for the moment. I am honest enough with myself, to know that either of them might become pregnant some day outside of marriage. I pray it won’t happen, but it could happen to me. I don’t blame Palin for her daughter’s getting pregnant.
I do blame her however for being such a clueless parent. If CNN’s reporting is correct the father is a 26 year old pharmacy student. If a 26 year old came near my daughter I would shoot him. To make things worse according to CNN they have been together since Bristol was 13. My God what kind of parents would let their 13 year old date a man 23? Let’s say the dates are wrong I take no more comfort if it’s a 14 year old with a man 24 years old. It’s the judgment stupid!
This shows me that Governor Palin has no judgment. Letting a man ten years older than you teenage daughter date her is just nuts. Don’t tell me that it’s the kids fault, if you cannot prevent your 13 year old dating a man ten years her senior you cannot do anything.
Speaking of judgment and parental instinct, super moms don’t have their water break and then immediately get on a plane and fly for 8 hours to the hospital. Once again that is nuts. Here you are, you know you are having a difficult pregnancy, that you are going to be giving birth to a special needs child and you get on a plane depriving your child and yourself of adequate medical care, you are without a fool. We do not need fools in the white house we have already tried that and how did that work out?

USpace said...

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This is going to be fun. History will be made, one way or another, and it looks more likely now that it will be the right history.

Even more Hillary supporters will go for McCain now. Obama is no longer a near certainty. Heaven forbid something happens to McCain, but I believe Palin would rise to the occasion. She has the right attitude. Everyone knows Obama is NOT ready for POTUS, Palin is only for the VP. Look at Dan Quayle.

YEY SARAH PALIN! YEY John McCain! Great pick! The 1st woman for the GOP VP? SCORE!

She's conservative! SCORE! She's a Governor! SCORE! She's pro-drilling! She's a hunter! SCORE! She doesn't believe the MMGW Scam! SCORE! She's a hockey Mom and played basketball in school! SCORE! She's pro-life! And she respects women! SCORE! She fights corruption! SCORE! She's high-energy! SCORE! She's tough! SCORE! She's got 5 kids! SCORE! Her son is going to Iraq in the Armed Forces! SCORE! She's married to a Blue-collar professional! SCORE! She's smart! SCORE! She's young! SCORE!

And she's a Hotty to boot! SCORE! The Left is going to go nuts! SCORE!
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CRLIndoland said...

PLEASE END THIS CIRCUS

To me it is despicable that in only this week we went from one of the most interesting and thought provoking elections of all time to a miserable, uneducated, tabloid festival of insanity.

Palin should have never been selected and that is a simple fact. Her candidacy is a joke and her family and all the new dirt that will eventually be raised will dominate the headlines to the end. Families matter and what they stand for matter because 300+ million people look at them everyday a idols. Is this family something we really want dominating the news for the next whatever years if for some awful chance they are elected.

Coming from a proud, uneducated, middle of the road family from small town America with now 4 children out of wedlock (from two girls both under 21) I know 100% what they are going through. Its not easy. But, my family is not running for vice president either. My family is made up of plenty of soccer mom’s and PTA leaders and even some local town representatives. They are active in their communities and they get DUI’s like everybody else. Their views and knowledge represent the smallest microcosm of American society. None of them, including myself, are no way shape or form qualified to run this country.

I keep seeing that she should be left alone and her family too. That is unrealistic. Her family will come to represent America, just like the Bush’s and the Clintons have. The media will crush them and drag every piece of dirty laundry they have…as they should. We live in a information society and we need to know everything about people we elect. We should always ask if a elected person is a good role model for Americans.

She should have been vetted. She should have been qualified. I am just sorry that this is what the election has come down to. Sad sad sad.

frogcatcher912 said...

Sarah Palin gave birth to a baby with Down's Syndrome at the age of 44.

Is anyone else appalled at this?

The risk of giving birth to a baby with Down's Syndrome is extremely high in women over 40 (and even higher when the father is also over 40).
http://www.webmd.com/infertility-and-reproduction/news/20030701/dad-age-down-syndrome

Sarah Palin "opposes the use of birth control pills and condoms even among married couples".

I am disgusted by this irresponsible behaviour. To give birth at age 44 to a baby with Down's because you refuse to use birth control inexcusable. Ignoring the dangers that you expose yourself and your baby to by refusing to use birth control after 40 is negligent and careless. To believe that a woman like this has the opportunity to become Vice President of the United States of America in 2008 makes me ill.

Does anyone else share this opinion?

Jonathan Guyer said...

I guess abstinence always works, except when it doesn't. This scandal encompasses all of the gaps in Bush's health and reproductive policy.

MIDEASTbyMIDWEST.com

Tomas said...

Actually, I think what we need is an OB/GYN of apolitical persuasion... not to test whether or not there is some conservative who is mentally flexible enough to convince themselves that this is a good idea regardless of medical expertise.

Clarkpark said...

Let’s talk outside the mainstream. While I doubt anyone’s actually taken a poll on this, what percentage of the American public do you think would support increasing the cost of gas just to make someone’s job easier or buy their re-election?

The Alaska Permanent Fund was created with the original windfall from oil drilling leases and permits on the north slope. Its current balance is around $38 billion; the state's annual operating budget is less than $6 billion. Each year enough of the dividends earned on this fund are added to it to keep it inflation-proof, five percent are divided among everyone who's been an Alaskan for at least eleven months, and the remainder is used to subsidize the budget.

Sarah Palin's only major initiative in her twenty months in office has been doubling the tax on oil produced in Alaska. After her increases, this year’s tax revenues more than doubled to $10 billion, or almost twice the state’s total budget. Last year the payout to each Alaskan was $1654. This year it’ll be around $2000 and Palin wants to add a second check for $1200 to help Alaskans pay for fill-ups.

Don’t get too upset. The gas companies don’t pass all of that on to the rest of us at the pump. Most of it’s written off against their federal income taxes, which increases the income tax burden for every resident and business in the other forty-nine states.

Alaska’s only metropolitan area, Anchorage, has only 325,000 residents, about the size of Utica-Rome NY. Half the population’s only been there for less than thirty years. Most of the state has no roads. Almost all of the state’s businesses can’t be moved overseas – it’s tough to relocate cold water commercial crabbing to Malaysia.

Sarah Palin’s never dealt with any budgetary problem other than looking for new ways to spend all the money she’s bilking from the oil companies. She has no inner cities or aging infrastructure to contend with. She competes with no other state or foreign country for economic development. She has nearly none of the experience that forty-nine other governors and several dozen big city mayors do.

The next time you fill the tank, take a second to silently thank Governor GasGouge for sticking the rest of us with the bill for making her job the easiest one in the country and buying her re-election at $1544 per vote.

Robert Fischer said...

You need to get the terms right.

The idea behind "compassionate conservative" is not that it's a conservative who is warm and cuddly. It's not a statement about attitude or approachability -- it's a statement about policy.

A compassionate conservative believes that welfare and other hand-out programs undermines people's motivation to improve themselves, doubly-so with the broke implementation that we've got ("Oh, you managed to save up $200 by working your butt off? Great -- let me punish you by reducing your benefits!"). So a compassionate conservative realizes that we have a system which is victimizing the poor by discouraging them to empower themselves, and wants to change that system in favor of supporting entrepreneurial activities, personal education, and consistent work -- all three of which basically translate into the government pushing people into the private sector.

Bush talked this way while running for President, and went half-way their with some faith-based initiative stuff, but then just kind of dropped the whole idea. (As usual, Jon Stewart points this out well.)

Palin is not a compassionate conservative. She's simply not like that.

Kwaayesnama said...

Please think about this.

Last night Sarah Pahin said the John McCain would care and work for the American people!

Do you belive the John McCain cares about you? Think again!

When John McCain entered the senate minimum wage was $3.35.

In 26 years John McCain had the opportunity to vote 18 times to help raise the standard of living for the neediest Americans. He voted 18 times against raising the minimum wage.

Why should that matter to you, because all salaries start with the minimum wage baseline.

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The Truth! said...

Sarah Palin is white trash and she lives the life to prove it. Her daughter just had a bastered child. The fact of the matter is this is a Black Man's baby. Sarah Palin force her daughter to end the relationship with him so it would look respectiable in the American eye. Too late her daughter has had the bastered. If she had a DNA test, I bet my life that's not the red necks baby who she claim it to be! And just think some of America's white trash wanted this in the White House. The fact of the matter is Sarah Palin was born a bastered so was her mother.

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