8:56 CDT. [Nate] The gap in prep time is showing ... you can tell the moments when Obama is going off script (hint: more 'ums' and 'uhs'), but those moments aren't occurring very often.
8:56 CDT: [Sean] Obama plays "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" card.
8:48 CDT. [Nate] The true wedge issue of 2008: tactics versus strategy.
8:45 CDT. [Nate] That clip of Obama telling McCain he was wrong will probably lead Morning Joe on Monday.
8:45 CDT: [Sean] Wow. And just as they started to bore Nate, Obama lays the smackdown. "You were wrong." That'll be played over and over after this is over.
8:40 CDT. [Nate] This affair has been a little anticlimactic so far.
8:39 CDT: [Sean] Whoever had "Miss Congeniality" in the buzzword drinking contest, take another swig.
8:37 CDT: [Nate] Both candidates' ties are doing funny things on television, or at least the TV that I'm watching. Maybe that's one of the things the candidates didn't get to double-check given the curtailed prep time.
8:30 CDT: [Sean] Thirty minutes in and we're not on foreign policy.
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Does anyone actually want to hear about foreign policy tonight?
I think we're finally starting to see it.
Does this debate even really matter? Aren't the Astros as likely to make the playoff as McCain is to win the election?
"Orgy" for the win!
right when nate ask's about foreign policy we get it.
McCain Landslide !!!
Did McCain just admit that Bush tortures prisoners?!
If McCain doesn't start taking over this debate, it's going to be a long week (month?) for him. As the topic turns to foreign policy, McCain needs to excel. After one answer, he's doing fine. Then again, so is Obama.
Where's McCain's flag lapel pin???
The Debate: Live Analysis
Obama 301, McCain 237
Obama just crushed the "Lessons from Iraq" question.
thanks sean...we actually had "fundamental" in our debate drinking game!!
I have caught McCain lying during this debate
jeremy said...
Where's McCain's flag lapel pin???
September 26, 2008 8:42 PM
not a good move
oh for heaven's sake! he just said it was mismanaged in his view obama! your actling like he never said that.
I'm pretty sure this is hilarious. McCain is old. Obama is running this debate biatches! lol
McCain is being like a "Grandpa" and telling stories rather than actually answering questions. Trying to evoke emotions because he is flailing
Everyone knows I'm an Obama guy.
So far, I'd have to give it to McCain by an edge. Too much intellectual stuff from BO. More emotional and more smiling needed.
No concrete answers by McCain.
Independents definitely look like they're trending towards Obama, at least if those little lines in that goofy graph are right.
Obama is crushing McCain right now
Yeah Indies are tending more towards Obama and even the Repub line upticked for Obama. The Dem line goes way down for McCain and IND stays toward the middle and occassionally uptick for McCain. However, I don't know where they're getting the data for the lines.
I can not stop looking at the lines.
Obama: You were wrong about Iraq in 2003
Mccain: I spent a july 4th in Baghdad.
Shark jumped lol
Don't know if it is because I am in the bag for Obama, but he is kicking gerkin butt right now!
I think the visuals and split screen are really working in Obama's favor.
how many times is Obama saying "that's not true"? It's a very important reinforced message I think.
other note - McCain actually doesn't know the difference between tactics and strategy. He made a mistake there.
They're mesmerizing.
* balls explode *
Just caught McCain stumbling like Palin and rambling on. What did he actually say??? WTH???
That fancy audience reaction ticker shows Independents closer to Democrats than to Republicans.
McCain still doesn´t look at Obama - weird. I think Obama has a good advantage so far, but I am a little biased. But even if it is tied so far, that´s an advantage for Obama.
Cindy, bring John's bed on stage. He needs his nap.
Obama's weeklong debate boot camp is really showing here tonight.
I hope CNN keeps the lines for everything now.
Every time Obama says "strategic" he emphasizes the word... just to get on McCain's nerves?
Where is everyone watching the live reactions to the debate?
republican ticker on cnn goes up when obama speaks WTF ?
Snark from Nate? I expect such from Sean, but you Nate?
mccain's staff shouldn't give him the horse tranqs before debates anymore
Obama's doing a great job using a "1, 2, 3" bullet point strategy to lay out his plans. It keeps it simple and straightforward. It's a good tactic for someone who tends to overthink and overspeak his answers.
"You don't say that out loud." RIght -- you just go ahead and do things under the table.
I think Obama emphasized the right points about the Iraq War and Afghanistan. He mentions strategy about Afghanistan but he has not even mentions the specifics? Do you guys understand the gobbledygook?
obama emphasizing "strategy" was right on point.
people respond to body language and subtle signals and mccain looks extremely defensive, esp w the lack of eye contact as people on here have mentioned.
where is that other 538 forum?
who's liveblogging this the best?
MCCAIN IS PISSED!!!!!!!!
cnn scores anyone?
Oh... he hit McCain with "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" musical number. THink that will get played back to back with McCain's original dity?
I am trying really hard to not be biased, call it what you want, McCain is not answering questions I feel like he is just talking. Obama is very quick to clarify,use clear and specific examples and restate so that McCain gets his attacks right and even if he has no clue what he is talking about, is pulling it off fantastically. McCain who should know what he is talking about looks like he would rather be sitting on the couch with a stand in so he could take the credit.
Obama is just getting better!
McCain is getting nasty
"Coming from you, who likes to sing songs about bombing Iran"
THANK YOU! That just made my night!
It's Grandpa McCain's storytime and all three lines tanked.
Does Mccain intend on saying anything relevant?
all three lines tanked?
I thought the next president wasn't going to have to decide yesterday's decisions. Now he's showing off his record.
McCain going back to the past again with Reagan and Lebanon...now the first Gulf War.
Not smart in an election defined by change.
I'm biased, but it seems like Obama is clearly at least holding his own here, in not outright winning. He's challenging McCain, he's being clear, and (if it matters), is making sense.
Dear McCain:
Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama, Look at Obama.
- Everyone
Okay now the DEM and IND lines are tanking and REP are steady in the middle. No one likes his stories.
Did McCain just claim foreknowledge of the terrorist attacks in Lebanon?
Yeh I'm seeing that!!
I'm a Obama supporter but also a major political junkie with former respect for Mccain... I do not feel McCain is performing well. Obama is doing better then average but not the best.
Does McCain have anything a bit more current that he's done? I don't need to hear about how he and Abraham Lincoln saved the Union together.
I wish Obama would say... "But I thought you knew how to WIN wars sen. Mccain"
Great comeback by Obama....
Brilliant response by Obama right here.
The most telling thing is the INDs are not responding to his emotional "let's not quit" speech.
Obama took the gloves off with the prudent "Bom, bomb" and extinction remark.
Best line of the night so far.
All three lines raising high for Obama!
But his comeback about his own bracelet was PERFECT. This is where my man shines!!!!!! Go O!!
I don't know what debate any of you are watching, but its either a dead tie or McCain is winning. And this is coming from somebody who is definitely voting Obama.
Holy crap, this is an ass kicking by Obama.
cam someone publish the numbers in the debate trackers? (or a link)
New post up!
you think that come back was good too?
I was terrified by that line!!!
Can someone hook me up with a link for these lines?
McCain has played out his veteran stories card.. his service should be commended but America will not elect someone based on military service right now
why does mccain keep bringing up how many stamps are in your passport?
What does McCain mean by strategy?
"I don't know what debate any of you are watching, but its either a dead tie or McCain is winning. And this is coming from somebody who is definitely voting Obama."
Then why is the CNN focus group clearly favoring Obama?
Can someone post the link to the CNN live polling graphs? I can't find them.
Look at my record..when George Washington said we should stand against the British, I stood up and voted to support the troops....I'm just that old!
>>I was terrified by that line!!!
the bracelet? I didn't like either of them bringing that up - too corny - aiming for pathos
Sarah Palin can see Pakistan on a map so she's a foreign policy expert.
WTH??? Didn't he mention bombing Iran?? Now a diplomacy??
A League of What????? Do we really qualify as a democracy after the past 8 years?
"We can't allow a second holocaust?"
Where have you been McCain? Did you notice Rwanda? Have you watched genocide in slow motion in Darfur?
Jewish Americans know the horror of holocaust isn't limited just to the "chosen people." Why doesn't McCain?
Good comeback by Obama!
No pre-conditions did not work for the strategy for North Korea
Ackma.... what?
The look on McCain's face now is classic....he looks pissed...
Please, please, please post the link to the CNN polling lines everyone keeps talking about.
9:10PM CDT
and people have realized they don't give a f%&k
Good response regarding Iran by Obama....solid example of Bush's failure in dealing with Iran and North Korea
smackdown! Spain!
Obama look very Presidential tonight!
Becky, Not sure that there is a link.... we are seeing it on CNN I believe, I am. Quite frankly as a real Obama supporter I am worried about how Mc Cain plays. I waited forever for this and now want it to end !
repression causes you to be 3 inches shorter??
McCain is failing in distancing himself from Bush right now.
McCain is ruffled. Seriously ruffled.
repression causes you to be 3 inches shorter??
bad diet might.
nutrition causes you to be shorter. I've seen it first hand while working in the '3rd world'
My bad, I thought the lines were online, not the actual channel.
McCain looks much older from the side.
Obama pivots to energy; score!
and again "that's just not true"
MCCAIN: Strong. Decisive. Virile. Leader. Maverick.
OBAMA: Weak. Indecisive. Professorial. Intellectual. Elite. Soft.
WINNER: MCCAIN!
McCain just admitted torture
With regard to George....Bush and cronies encouraged them to invade Ossetia (please forgive my spelling)
REALITY CHECK: Brainwashed. Automaton. Reading from talking point note cards.
EVERYONE ELSE: Thoughtful. Processing information in real time. Actually watching the debate.
WINNER: I think you know.
Good comeback by Obama!
McCain threw in again about the "experience" card....getting old....Obama should mention about Palin...NOW
Obama should mention about his youth and fresh perspective, etc. that would be advantageous over old age...
POW card! Yay!
Obama just sounds like a far left liberal loon liar. MCCAIN WINS! SURGE IN THE POLLS! SLAM FUCKING DUNK LIBS!
Live with it.
YEAH!
MCCAIN WINS ON TAXES AND SPENDING!
HE SAID JOHN MCCAIN IS RIGHT IN AN AD! PUT IT TOGETHER! SLAM HIM WITH IT!
HEEEEEEEEEELLL YEAH! KNOCK OUT!!!!
My assessment, is that McCain held his own, but Obama seemed more confident and his answers were clearer and more to the point.
Neither got a knock out blow, but seeing that the ball is in Omama's court at the moment the result works in his favor by far.
Obama flat out got his ass kicked. "Teacher, teacher, I have a bracelot too!"
By the end, Obama looked tired and thoroughly beaten. The old man looked like he could go another 15 rounds.
Obama performance is truly pitiful... not to mention he might be the scariest candidate for president ever.
@robtomorrow: I pretty much agree. Given that tonight's topic (nat'l security) was supposed to be McCain's strength, he needed to do much better than this.
Ronald Reagan is the person he admires most? Voodoo economics, among other things.
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