Washoe County, home of Reno and Sparks and 19% of Nevada’s vote, may be on the verge of having more registered Democrats than Republicans. It would be a stunning development.
As of September 18, the county registrar reported 87,971 registered Republicans and 84,705 registered Democrats, a gap of 3,266 (down from 5,648 at the end of the primaries).
But as of that update, more than 5,000 registration applications were in the queue.
If 82% of those are Democratic registrations (5 to 1), Washoe would now have more registered Democrats, with 17 days from the time of that update (Sept 18) through the close of mail-in registrations (Oct 4).“Unlike any time I have seen in 30 years of doing this, there is a really aggressive move from one party,” (Washoe County’s Voter Registrar Dan) Burk said. “It’s really unusual to see this intense growth in such a short period of time.”
In 2004, registered Republicans outnumbered registered Democrats by approximately 17,000 voters. George Bush beat John Kerry by 6,696 votes in Washoe. The Republican formula for winning Nevada has been hold down their losses in Clark County, run up the lopsided score in rural counties that account for 13% of the vote, and win Washoe by several thousand votes.
There may be a little excuse-making going on.Heidi Smith, chairwoman of the Washoe County Republican Party, said Democrats are gaining in the county because more than 48,000 Californians have moved here since the last election and bring their liberal views.
In fact, from 1999 to 2007, a net 27,873 Californians migrated into Washoe, 35% of new residents. (This is all residents, including many not of voting age.) The bottom line is that Obama's new voter registration project has been going since well before the January 19 caucus. You simply cannot cram that kind of work into a few short weeks before a deadline, as the Republicans now appear to be trying.
One big question: how will the 30,377 independent voters swing? "Two Westerners versus a Midwesterner and an Easterner" was how preliminary speakers at Sarah Palin's September 13 Carson City rally framed the race, and certainly that Western appeal will play well with Washoe independents. At the same time, Barack Obama performed strongly in northern Nevada during the caucuses, drawing many crossover voters.
We'll keep an eye on Washoe County -- a true swing county in Nevada. But the voter registration writing may be on the wall.
9.23.2008
Is Washoe County, Nevada About To Flip Blue?
by Sean Quinn @ 1:55 AM...see also nevada, voter registration
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All of the outside poll effects will be hyper inflated by the result. If Obama loses, we'll hear all about the Bradley effect. If he wins, it will be irrelevant.
Voter registration might matter much more.
ooohhhhh yes. The "blame California" excuse. This is common for republican party officials in both OR and NV, playing on the distate locals have for Californians that drive up property taxes. The truth is up until 1990, more people from NV and OR moved IN to California (to work) than out, and there was significant Calfornia bashing THEN.
I live in Reno and attend the University of Nevada, Reno. For the last two weeks or so on campus there has been a voter registration table sponsored by Barack Obama, and many volunteers on campus with clipboards and voter registration forms.
I am sure that a big portion of the new registrations in Washoe County are due to these efforts on campus, as well as many volunteers knocking on doors and spreading the word.
Saying that Nevada is turning Blue because of Califoria is like saying Palin gets foreign policy experience through osmosis because Alaska borders Russia. There may be an influx of Californians to this state, but Nevada will always make up its own mind. I think that you will find come Novermber 4th, that Nevada has made up its mind for Obama.
As an aside, I am a registered Republican here, and there is no way my vote is going to McCain. I have also not seen any McCain campaign efforts whatsoever either on campus or elsewhere in the Biggest Little City.
I have been spreading the word to all of my friends and every person that will listen that our votes here in Nevada count for multiple times what they would in California or New York or any southern state. Nevada is on the brink and I think we are on the verge of painting it blue.
When people talk about Californians moving into their state and affecting local politics it is important to look closer and see from where in California are they coming? Example: Idaho turned deep red, right wing in the 1990s as people fled Orange County at a rate of 20 to every one liberal who moved from the Bay Area to Sun Valley.
Some more observances:
I heard on NPR (and possibly on here) the other day that the McCain campaign has an office in Reno that is overflowing with volunteers. I have yet to see the efforts of these volunteers anywhere in town.
Back in 2004, George W Bush had a huge presence here. The college Republicans were really active, many of my friends had signs in their windows and on their cars that read "Outdoorsmen for Bush" or "Farmers and Ranchers for Bush." People were truly behind his campaign.
Today it feels like the other way around. 4 years ago, I would have never found myself campaigning for Kerry, or even against Bush for that matter, but this weekend I am going to be knocking on doors getting out the vote for Obama.
A friend of mine who volunteered this past weekend knocking on doors said that many of the volunteers she worked with had carpooled up from California to help. She was amazed that they would come all the way from the Bay Area just to volunteer in Reno. It goes to show how important Nevada's electoral votes are, and the lengths people are willing to go to to change the course of this country.
Another thing, I love what you have done with fivethirtyeight. It is a fantastic source and I have found it to be truly insightful. Keep on keeping on.
I wonder how the Reno Sheriff's department will be voting.
Nevada would be a nice pickup, but if VA goes to Obama (which seems much more likely than NV at this point), NV is irrelevant. As a matter of fact, given how the polls are moving, I'm having trouble coming up with a likely scenario where NV really matters in this election.
That said, I really hope NV does go to Obama, because it would go a long way to back up his promise to redraw the map.
The election looks like its gonna be close. Every vote will be needed. Winning Nevada gives Obama a path that doesn't include either FL,OH,VA or CO.
Kerry + IO,NM,NV = 269 EV and the presidency.
Keep up the good work Nevada.
I am coming from the Bay Area in October to Reno to help the Obama campaign. Yep it means that much to me. Hope everyone else does thier part too.
When people talk about Californians moving into their state and affecting local politics it is important to look closer and see from where in California are they coming? Example: Idaho turned deep red, right wing in the 1990s as people fled Orange County at a rate of 20 to every one liberal who moved from the Bay Area to Sun Valley.
I'd guess that most of the people moving to Reno from CA live along Highway 80. Which is basically the Bay Area and Sacramento, and all pretty darn blue.
Thanks for your insights, 6789. I hope it encourages more people to share their personal stories from the various states. It's much more interesting to read than the trash that sometimes fills up these comments sections.
Interstices makes a good point about Californian emigrants. In Washington state I got the impression that a lot of Californians who leave CA are actually fairly conservative. A lot of them move to other western states because they think the taxes in CA are too high, the culture is too liberal, etc, etc.
These numbers continue to amaze me. Not just Nevada numbers, but all over. The turnout for this election is going to be historic. From the primaries to Nov. 4th the Democrats will have made huge strides in changing their numbers in so many places, and win or lose that's gonna be a lasting legacy. My only concern would be whether or not states are ready for the turnout. Even here in Alabama in '04 I didn't get to vote until 7:45 - 45 minutes after the polls were supposed to close - because of voter turn out.
The Editor: Remember that Nevada's voter registration deadline is October 4th. It is among the earliest in the nation. Also, thank you and everyone who has volunteered for your efforts, they are much appreciated.
Also, Nevada only has 5 electoral votes and will be fairly insignificant statistically should OH, FL, VA, or CO turn blue, but nevertheless it would be great to see Nevada contribute to the change in direction that we want to see in this country. A few insurance points have never hurt especially given the results in 2000 when New Hampshire and all of its 4 electoral votes could have swung the election.
The western argument presented by Palin is a fairly good one, but driving through some of the suburban neighborhoods here and seeing every other house with a For Sale sign in the driveway is enough of a reminder that we need to replace the current deregulating administration. I'd imagine it is still worse in Las Vegas.
I would really like to see the numbers from Clark County (Las Vegas). A large democratic shift there would pretty much negate the votes of the rest of the state.
Sean: How does the ad about McCain wanting to bury nuclear waste in Nevada but won't let them truck it through Arizona play in NV? Is this an issue?
Nevada DOES matter.
Looks to me thatr Obama is winning this election exactly the way he won the primary. Total atention to every last detail.
Consider McCain's options. He could put most of his resouces in Pennsylvania. He probably will and then there is a good chance he will win it.
But with NV, NH, VA and CO Obama still gets 270 and the White House.
Nor is that all. There is every possibility that Indiana might flip due to superior Dem GOTV. Might? Better make that should. I would bet money on a totaly one sided GOTV & registration drive operation
VS a slight deficit in polled support.
Obama can win this thing in the ignored smaller states.
McCain Transition Head Lobbied for Freddie Mac Before Takeover
By Jonathan D. Salant and Timothy J. Burger
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Sept. 23 (Bloomberg) -- The lobbying firm of the man Republicans say John McCain has chosen to begin planning a presidential transition earned more than a quarter of a million dollars this year representing Freddie Mac, one of the companies McCain blames for the nation's financial crisis.
Timmons & Co., whose founder and chairman emeritus is William Timmons Sr., was registered to lobby for Freddie Mac from 2000 through this month, when the federal government took over both Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.
Newly available congressional records show Timmons's firm received $260,000 this year before its lobbying activities were barred under terms of the government rescue of the failed mortgage giant. Timmons, 77, is listed as a lobbyist for Freddie Mac on the company's midyear financial-disclosure form.
While Republicans say Timmons is making plans for the transition if McCain wins in November, the campaign wouldn't confirm his role. Timmons didn't return a phone call seeking comment.
McCain has labeled Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae as prime culprits in creating the financial storm that has roiled Wall Street and Washington.
``At the center of the problem were the lobbyists, politicians, and bureaucrats who succeeded in persuading Congress and the administration to ignore the festering problems at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,'' he said last week in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
``Using money and influence, they prevented reforms that would have curbed their power and limited their ability to damage our economy,'' he said. ``And now, as ever, the American taxpayers are left to pay the price for Washington's failure.''
`Cooked the Books'
McCain has criticized Democratic nominee Barack Obama in both television advertising and speeches for his ties to former Fannie Mae chief James Johnson.
``Fannie cooked the books and Johnson made millions,'' said a McCain ad, released Sept. 19. ``Then Obama asked him to pick his VP and raise thousands for his campaign.''
Johnson is listed on Obama's Web site as having raised between $200,000 and $500,000 for the campaign. He left Obama's vice presidential search committee June 11 after just a week, following reports that he received preferential mortgage rates from Countrywide Financial Corp., which suffered losses due to the collapse of the subprime-mortgage market and was bought by Bank of America Corp.
McCain's campaign also ran an advertisement that said Obama had received advice on housing issues from a more recent Fannie Mae chief executive officer, Franklin Raines.
Under Fire
Raines said he had only met Obama once, before Obama was sworn in as a senator in January 2005. ``I am not an adviser to Barack Obama, nor have I provided his campaign with advice on housing or economic matters,'' Raines said in a statement released last week by the campaign.
Campaign-finance reports show that Raines hasn't contributed money to the Obama presidential campaign either.
Timmons is a longtime power in the Washington lobbying industry whose clients include the American Petroleum Institute and Chrysler LLC. Visitors to the company's Web site are told that ``Timmons and Company pioneered the concept and the industry standard for Washington representation.''
He founded the company in 1975 after leaving the administration of President Gerald Ford, and has worked to elect every Republican presidential nominee since.
When asked about his role in the McCain campaign, spokesman Brian Rogers said: ``We're not discussing any aspect of the transition.'' An aide to Timmons who didn't give her name while taking a message at his lobbying firm said that only Timmons himself could discuss ``his work for Senator McCain.''
Times Flap
The McCain camp was also dealing with reports about the lobbying work of campaign manager Rick Davis.
The New York Times reported yesterday that Davis was paid almost $2 million in fees over five years by a group primarily funded by Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae that was intended to help stave off more stringent federal regulation of the housing companies.
McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds said other members of the Homeownership Alliance included Habitat For Humanity and the National Council of La Raza, saying the group ``was focused strictly on promoting homeownership.''
McCain senior adviser Steve Schmidt accused the Times of being biased toward Obama. ``Whatever the New York Times once was, it is today not by any standard a journalistic organization,'' Schmidt said on a conference call with reporters. ``It is a pro-Obama advocacy organization.''
What was that I heard falling? An ACORN, you say?
Good luck with those registrations. And top analysis. Make sure to leave out information that may be hurtful to your hopes, such as recent polling showing Obama's registrations only going to him 47% to 45%. Drop the ACORN asists, and it may not all be roses.
Oz.
niedda;
Good idea. Let's go the associations with Freddie and Fannie route. Should play out well for Obama.
Not.
Oz.
I am absolutely stunned by the GOTV operation, to the point where I'm not sure it can be believed...
In any case, even if the GOTV nation-wide is exaggerated, that is terrific news for democracy. In political science classes we learn that the US has one the highest rate of abstention in the world, and reading Tocqueville we realize that is a great danger.
If Americans start voting above 70%, than that is the sign of a healthy democracy, and that is better for everyone, not matter who they vote for. Gives real legitimacy to the President and Congress to get things done, even the hard stuff.
God knows there are enough challenges out there...
@OZ are you from Australia?
Oz,
Forget ACORN. The number of ACORN registrants that were accused of committing voter fraud is <15. In an organization of over 350,000 members that is a terribly small number of people to attribute these number to.
These gains, at least here in Washoe County are a result of thousands of people volunteering their time and energy to change the course of this country. You can try to undermine their efforts by insinuating involvement with a few bad people in an overwhelmingly good group, but you will fail miserably. One Lazy-Boy critic is surely not going to take away from what they have accomplished in getting many more people involved in the political process and exercising their right to vote.
If you want to talk about a more relevant affiliation, especially considering the recent Wall Street crisis and ensuing bailouts, why don't you Google the Keating Five.
This is EXCELLENT NEWS!! For McCain!!!
Cora, it's about the same reason that saying "that is a fine shirt... " "why, than--" "FOR ME TO POOP ON!" is funny.
Blame---
While the thought is tempting, I would place money on Obama losing Ohio and Indiana for sure. I think the Obama people know their best chances do not lie in OH and IN, and I think they have finally figured out a way to win the White House without worrying about Ohio: NM, IA, and CO.
Good idea. Let's go the associations with Freddie and Fannie route. Should play out well for Obama.
Not.
Yeah, because Obama's staff is basically the lobbying crew from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Oh wait. That's McCain's staff. Whoops.
Obama will win Indiana for sure
Ord
Obama loosind Ohio is more that likely. You won't take money from me there. The reason being that Ohio is a traditional Battleground. Both sides can be expected to be well dug in & giving their all. In short what we are seing in the polls isn't going to change much even if one side or the othe shifts dramaticaly in the national polls.
I will have to disagree with you on Indiana. The latest, and most respectable poll is Rasmussen with McCain +2. That is about equal to the house bias to GOP with Rasmussen. Ignore that and looking at all IN polls and it is difficult to find much fault with Nat's eastimate projection of McCain +1.3.
The projection is a pure poll projection. It does NOT include assesment for relative strength of GOTV or regestrations that are yet to be processed. The way I see it Obama has the advantage.
Native Renoite long transplanted in Oregon loving the trend toward blue in Washoe County where I was born...
Great news that eyes and minds are wide-open. I enjoyed comments by elevation6789; good to hear there is such outreach and involvement at UNR. Go Obama volunteers! You're doing great work. My thoughts are with you.
elevation 6789 said:
I would really like to see the numbers from Clark County (Las Vegas). A large democratic shift there would pretty much negate the votes of the rest of the state.
From the end of January to the end of August the registration increases for Clark County are as follows:
Democrat + 40,491
Republican + 2,812
Non-Partisan + 7,614
I saw George Will (conservative commentator) tear into McCain this past Sunday on This Week. Now he's got a column slamming McCain for being erratic and going against conservative principles:
Under the pressure of the financial crisis, one presidential candidate is behaving like a flustered rookie playing in a league too high. It is not Barack Obama.
Channeling his inner Queen of Hearts, John McCain furiously, and apparently without even looking around at facts, said Chris Cox, chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, should be decapitated.
It looks like McCain's response to the economic crisis could be coming at a price - fiscal conservatives. Somewhere, Bob Barr's stock is going up.
So totally off topic, how in the hell is Lindsay Grahm keeping his seat after nation whiners comment. I mean, that should be pretty damning right?
Not sure what the numbers for September are so far btw or what is currently in the queue there, those numbers are based on the August monthly report from the website of the Nevada Secretary of State. That's better than a 14:1 D to R ratio in registration though. Looks good to me.
Except Phil Gramm made that comment Derek.
OH WOW, I feel dumb now. Thanks Joseph. I was wondering that. Not sure why I thought that they were the same person.
Even if it was Lindsay Graham, his seat is pretty much a lifetime appointment. He took over Strom Thurmond's seat, and Thurmond was there for damn near 50 years. It would take a lot more than a verbal gaffe like that to take down Lindsay Graham.
But like Joseph said, the "nation of whiners" quote was from Phil Graham.
This website is a complete joke ... it should be renamed five hundred thirty eight reasons why Obama will win. What a waste of time and effort for all you people ... it reminds me of when I plan how I'm going to spend my lotto winnings (please, please, please let me win).
I visit this site now solely for entertainment value. RCP is far more objective and believable. Predicition: 538 will be merged with MoveOn.org within a year.
bpulliam -
Thank you for your kind words. Hope you come back to visit often. Have a blessed day.
Michigan Obama 48, McCain 44 Obama +4
Minnesota Obama 47, McCain 45 Obama +2
Wisconsin Obama 49, McCain 42 Obama +7
Colorado Obama 49, McCain 45 Obama +4
According to RCP, the Battleground Tracking is still showing McCain leading by two points, this is the only tracking poll showing McCain ahead. Off course, republican leaning RCP does not include D2K tracking poll
bpulliam-
Say that this entire raqce comes down to two states, colorado and virginia, and both are total tossup. If Obama needs to win only one of those two, and McCain needs to win both, what are McCain's chances of winning the election? Well, there are four possible outcomes, McCain wins both (1 in 4), they split (2 in four), or Obama wins both (1 in four). By my math, that means Obama has a 75% chance of winning it all. Low and behold, take a look at the front page, where Nate has computed this thing at about 75/25. Damn near all the states are decided and it comes down to just a few states results. If you don't like the results that doesn't discredit the mathematical fundamentals underneath it all. Sorry bro, McCain is losing currently, it's just the way it is. Perhaps the republicans shouldn't have ruled so poorly for eight years.
This time of the day there is an usual up tick for McCain in the Intrade prediction markets, the new battle ground poll just released and published on RCP has created a swing of 5 points to McCain's favor.
Remember who beat McWar in the Republican primary in Nevada? Those people won't be voting for McCain.
shadowguidex-
If that's the case why include the other 48 states at all?
It is not the fact that McCain is losing that bothers me ... I can go to RCP and get the current picture. The problem is that I feel that I can't trust the overall model. In the last 10 days I have witnessed on this site 1) a "tweak" to the model whatever that means 2) discrediting of the 6.0 point Bradley effect (from AP)3) 2.8 points bump for Obama assigned to the "cell-phone effect" 4) and now this Nevada flip due to voter registration.
Polls usually turn out to be wrong based upon faulty assumptions. Two weeks ago I felt like 538 had tempered their enthusiasm for Obama but now it dominates every article and I believe invaded the model ... which means I have a hard time buying it. It would be much more believable if things weren't always assumed to be working in Obama's favor. That is I would like to see a model that incorporates a 6% Bradley effect and no voter registration/cell-phone effect. This seems like the worst case for Obama and if he still leads then I would be convinced he is winning. Otherwise, you are assuming the best case scenario which has a high probability of letting you down.
I voted for Gore and Kerry by the way ... and you are right, I am voting for McCain this time around. Does the model account for this?
@bpulliam" your quote below;
"I voted for Gore and Kerry by the way ... and you are right, I am voting for McCain this time around. Does the model account for this?"
Yes, keep voting for losers....
There is no 5% Bradley Effect, because you're not understanding the def8inition of what a Bradley Effect is. Bradley Effect doesn't mean that 6% dont vote for him based on race - the polls already pick that up, it's that people lie to pollsters claiming they will vote for Obama and instead vote for McCain. Since McCain is a viable candidate and there are a multitude of reasons why you could pick him that are legitimate, there is no reason to lie to a pollster. The Bradley effect takes place mostly when the white candidate is a bad candidate and people are ashamed to be voting for them - McCain doesn't fit that pattern.
Voters not voting for a black candidate is fine, the polls pick that up already - it's lying to pollsters that's a Bradley Effect. Understand?
06:58 | 23/09/2008
Chuck Todd
NBC Today Show
The NBC/Mason-Dixon Battleground poll of Florida released this morning shows Obama with a slight lead:
Obama: 47
McCain 45
Also, it should be noted that the ground game is not accounted for in polling very well either. Most polls use the "likely voter" model, meaning they only count the responses from voters they consider likely. Voters who have never voted before are not considered likely. Take a state like Indiana in this cycle. They had 4 million registered voters coming into this election cycle. This year, over 500,000 new voters have registered to vote, which is an astoundingly high number. None of these half a million new registered voters are "likely" voters to most pollsters. When an entire 1/9th of your states registered voters responses are being tossed out, it really makes the final result hard to predict using models and patterns from 2004 or 2000. I must add, it isn't only Indiana that this is occurring in - many many states are having unprecedented numbers of new registrants like they have never seen before. Nate's model has some accountability for all these unpolled voters, which are likely to be young, or older disgruntled first time voters. Historically, Republicans don't like high turnout, and they certainly don't like new voters.
bpulliam -
First of all, the 6% "Bradley Effect" included a 4.5% margin of error. Secondly, it included 4% of voters that are republicans and were unlikely to vote democrat in any election. Thirdly, Nate has PROVEN through thorough analysis that there was a very limited race effect in the Democratic Primary, which is where it should have been most prevalent. Fourthly, I don't think Nate added in the cellphone adjustment, only discussed it. Fifthly, the "tweak" to the model meant that the model became more sensitive to new information - as the race progresses closer to the election, the more likely the new data is true.
You really should follow this site closely. This post, and many of Nate's posts are sometimes just thoughts, supported by facts, that have NO effect on the model.
shadow - where are those polls from?
mj-
Quinnipiac
yeh where did you get those polls shadow?
I know PPP left a hint lastnight about a new CO poll
From Quinnipiac University/washingtonpost.com/Wall Street Journal polls:
COLORADO: Obama 49 – McCain 45
MICHIGAN: Obama 48 - McCain 44
MINNESOTA: Obama 47 - McCain 45
WISCONSIN: Obama 49 - McCain 42
Dates conducted: September 14-21; Error margin: Ranges from 2.6-2.7 points.
do you have a link for those polls?
@vanessa here are the links
http://thepage.time.com/
Various Media
23 September
From Quinnipiac University/washingtonpost.com/Wall Street Journal polls:
COLORADO: Obama 49 – McCain 45
MICHIGAN: Obama 48 - McCain 44
MINNESOTA: Obama 47 - McCain 45
WISCONSIN: Obama 49 - McCain 42
Dates conducted: September 14-21; Error margin: Ranges from 2.6-2.7 points.
The PPP poll should corroborate that CO position for now.
Chuck Todd's polls always show Obama up, don't put much into that Florida poll, when 90% of the polls give McCain a lead.
About this voter registration, WHO CARES! We all know that not everyone votes. College Kids and Blacks will still not go out in droves to vote this election, and they NEVER will.
It's great for the numbers, but it means nothing. NV IS RED, AS IS OH-FL.
Now McCain better get his ass going to hold on CO or steal PA!
Wisconsin +7 Obama feels a bit too high for me, but we'll see. I think the final margin will be Obama +3, but definitely Obama winning. Minnesota should be about +3 in the end also.
Excellent results for Barack Obama so far. Lots of Tuesday left to go, lets see how it all unfolds.
So your banking your hopes on Nov4 on black and young people not voting? Good luck with that one, have you visited a college campus or a black neighborhood recently?
CtStW
The story goes like this. The voting drive in my small college town in '04 was tremendous. Unfortunately, the polling machine broke at about 3pm, and another had to be driven over much later (ironically enough, after voting ended). Nearly everyone who registered (~900 of the 1500 students at the school) got in line, most of them were in line at 3 or got in line after. Hundreds were in line, waiting to vote.
Voting finished at about 3am.
I know it's only one objective experience, but it's evidence enough to me that college kids will get out and vote.
"So your banking your hopes on Nov4 on black and young people not voting? Good luck with that one, have you visited a college campus or a black neighborhood recently?"
This election is going to break every turnout record in all age groups and demographics.
I am a native Nevadan (Reed High '00, UNR '05), now living in Washington, D.C. It brings a tear to my eye to see my home state return to its "Silver & Blue" progressive Democratic roots. This used to be a Democratic/populist state before the Reagan revolution. Hopefully the spirit of William Jennings Bryan will continue to influence behind-the-scenes.
From Quinnipiac University/washingtonpost.com/Wall Street Journal polls:
COLORADO: Obama 49 – McCain 45
MICHIGAN: Obama 48 - McCain 44
MINNESOTA: Obama 47 - McCain 45
WISCONSIN: Obama 49 - McCain 42
Obama holding the needed Kerry states and looking good in CO.
The Kerry + IA/NM/CO path is in tact.
VA might break next.
The debates are crucial for both. McCain needs a dominant performance just to stay competitive. Obama can seal the deal.
The latest polls are EXTRAORDINARILY ENTHRALLING!!! For John McCain!!!
Quinnipiac:
Obama leads in Colorado, Michigan, Minnesota and Winsconsin.
Obaam leads in Florida (Mason-Dixon).
Here is waht I've just sent John at RCP
Sir john@realclearpolitics.com
For sake of impartiality and avoid to further solidify the notion that you're republican, you need you include D2K tracking poll in your average polls or exclude the dubious battleground tracking, which I understand doesn't poll on weekends!
Cheers, M.P.
Obama needs NV. Keep up the GOTV efforts!
Nate,
Sean Oxedine bitch slapped you again at the The next right.com. Still waiting for a response, before November 4 settles the whole argument.
"The latest polls are EXTRAORDINARILY ENTHRALLING!!! For John McCain!!!"
extraordinarily enthralling = the gayest thing I've ever seen on this site.
Maybe you can get a date now with McCain's cheif of staff, Mark Buse, the newest Republican Closet case.
If Obama wins VA NH and NV he can afford to lose PA
"The latest polls are EXTRAORDINARILY ENTHRALLING!!! For John McCain!!!"
For suicide.
If Obama wins VA NH and NV he can afford to lose PA
That's a net loss of one electoral vote, and the Kerry states (which include NH) add up to just 252. Are you assuming Obama wins IA, NM and CO?
New Quinnapiac/WSJ/WP
Michigan
Obama - 48
McCain - 44
Minnesota
Obama - 47
McCain - 45
Wisconsin
Obama - 49
McCain - 42
Colorado
Obama - 49
McCain 45
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x4141.xml?ReleaseID=1216
Was it really only a couple days ago that we had conservatives arguing the national polling must be off because we weren't seeing any Obama-friendly news in the state polling?
Seems that way...
"If Obama wins VA NH and NV he can afford to lose PA"
He'd have to win Colorado, too, right?
It's almost not even fun arguing with conservatives on this site about McCain's slim chances.
Maybe Rasmussen will swing back to McCain today to give them *something* to hope on.
Sedi,
Odumbo did not lead by 8 in VA. That is Nate Silver BULLSHIT. It was a 3 point likely voter lead. Anything else is wishful thinking. McCain has led in 5 out of 9 polls published in the last 2 weeks in VA. Some by 9 to 7 points.
Only in the mind of Nate SILVER does ODUMBO have a lead in VA.
"Odumbo did not lead by 8 in VA. That is Nate Silver BULLSHIT. It was a 3 point likely voter lead. Anything else is wishful thinking. McCain has led in 5 out of 9 polls published in the last 2 weeks in VA. Some by 9 to 7 points.
"
Wait, we care about the number of polls led now? So you'll be giving up on Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota?
yeh including Colorado and Iowa.
I mean if he lost PA he'd really have to thread the needle.
George Will compares McCain to the "Queen of Hearts"
"yeh including Colorado and Iowa."
Iowa's a given at this point, they really hate McCain (amusingly, for an issue that I agree with him on).
"Iowa's a given at this point, they really hate McCain (amusingly, for an issue that I agree with him on)."
Same here. LOL.
Corn ethanol is a disgrace.
"Odumbo".
This sis the bad of democracy. The vote of this type of "persons".
Dario: it's all about racism and hate with folks like 'jack black'. They are not representative of most Americans, fortunately.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13769.html
The big, scary question: What if the bailout doesn't work?
This is quite literally the last bullet in the chamber.
And by literally, I mean figuratively.
I'm buying foreign currency today.
"I'm buying foreign currency today."
I have a canadian fiver, a loonie and a toonie at home. Might be time to expand that...
George Will compares McCain to the Queen of Hearts"
Is Will suggesting that JohnnyMac play a nice game of Solitaire?
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Here's an interesting tidbit in Central Florida. Listed below are 'TV Ad Tallies' that I personally witnessed since waking up a few hours ago:
Obama - 11 ads
McCain - 0 ads
Non-Campaign - 1 ad (Obama Against Surge)
I'm not sure why the McCain ads have dropped so sharply in the local market this week. It previously was around a 60%-40% McCain TV Ad advantage right up until about 10 days ago, when Obama began an advertising 'surge' of his own. Of course, this is just one morning's snapshot. But its clear that Obama is at least spending SOME of that '$39mil For Florida' that Mr. Plouffe was laying out last week.
To the folks saying Nevada is insignificant: you're wrong! There are many scenarios where it is important. For example, what if Obama wins Kerry+Iowa+NM+Col, but loses NH. He will be stuck at 269. Then Nev. comes into play, even though I like Obama's chances if it's a tie.
They are wrong generally. Oklahoma is irrelevant. Georgia is irrelevant. Every state where Obama is within striking distance--especially a state like Nevada where the prospects of a long-term shift are very good with the influx of Californians and a quickly growing Hispanic population--is highly relevant.
Despite Shrub's contentions to the contrary, a governing mandate comes from wide-spread support. A shift of 10 electoral votes, even if not needed to squeak out 270, is a big deal.
NV, NM, CO, VA, and NC are very important, beyond just this election. They represent a possibly new Democratic coalition based on demographic shifts. Show them the effort now, and they will reward you for it for years to come.
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"VA might break next."
I'm not sure what you mean by this. In three VA polls yesterday, Obama led by 6 (SUSA) and by 8 (ABC/Post) and trailed by 2 (Ras). In five other polls released on 9/14 or later, Obama has led in two, trailed in two, and tied in one. VA is clearly not secure for Obama, but polls from yesterday were extraordinarily good (enthralling?) for him.
"break" meaning consistent polling showing Obama ahead during the upcoming weeks - not just 2 polls. McCain has led VA consistently (or a few ties) until recently.
Nevada is hugely important, because this election is not just about numbers and winning... it's about governing.
The more smaller states in the center of the country that turn blue, the more Obama will be able to govern as the president of all the people, not just the elite urban states along the two seaboards.
Breaking the stranglehold of partisanship and regionalism on our polictical process could be the historic, enduring legacy of this extraodinary election.
Obama 50-46 in PA
http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/
Right wing is rigging PBS polls
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September 22, 2008,
PBS is running a poll which asks if Palin is qualified to be VP. The right wing has organized a Yes campaign and at the moment, the yes option is winning.
Please consider doing this. It's important. It takes 10 seconds.
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
They're also running this one about who is more qualified to handle the economy:
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-437.html
""break" meaning consistent polling showing Obama ahead during the upcoming weeks - not just 2 polls. McCain has led VA consistently (or a few ties) until recently."
I think he means "open up for Obama", not break. Breaking happens among a specific group or rank of voter.
I am hesitant to say VA is opening up for Obama just yet. There are so many X factors at play here and in NC (for that matter, SC, too). Minority turnout in 2008 will be at a record level. New registrations are keeping clerk's offices open 24/7 to process the volume. The demographics of VA (and NC for that matter) are more educated, more white collar, and less apt to consider race. Throw in a libertarian (Barr) in traditional GOP states where GOP voters are looking for an alternative, and you have A LOT of X factors that will keep these states from being called right after the polls close.
Combine that with anger and the fact that VA and NC are both 70% plus on the belief we are going in the wrong direction and you can see why talk of an Obama win is not out of the question. The longer these states stay undeclared, it tells Nevadans on the fence at 5 PM that the nation is breaking toward Obama.
Call that the "Reagan Effect". States in the west broke after 5 PM at the polls once the landslide projections on the east coast were being made. In a close election, perception will matter.
I know a lot of people who've moved from California to Nevada, Arizona and Colorado. Most of the Colorado implants were liberal and going there for either high tech jobs or the environment. Most of the Nevadan and Arizonian implants that I know were leaving the state to avoid the high cost of living here. They are primarily conservative blaming the high cost of living in the Bay Area on "liberals" and "immigrants". So to say that Californians in Nevada are primarily liberal is a bit of a stretch.
Re: Washoe County
Thats what I'm talking about!
As someone who worked their ass off over Labor Day weekend in Sparks and Reno for the Obama camp, I can say there is definitely a shift going on from the ground.
I work at the local paper in Reno, lived here for two years, and voted in the primaries for Obama. I have never seen such excitement in young people as I have this year. Washoe is going for Obama, you can guarantee it.
Obama can't play for the 269-269 tie! Winners go for the outright win.
Remember Maine and NE split the EC votes.
In 2004, MN went 9 for Kerry and 1 for Edwards. Thats why every state in play is important.
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The Obama campaign is pulling out all the stops in Washoe County. They knocked on over 15,000 doors this weekend. And this isn't some anecdotal report like the claim that "the McCain campaign is overflowing with supporters"--you can see pictures here: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/23/44921/2385/334/606833
"...Barack Obama performed strongly in northern Nevada during the caucuses, drawing many crossover voters..."
I rather say they were voting against Hillary than for Obama. One would like where Obama stands with the Union/Hispanic voters on Nevada
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