That Nevada poll isn't Obama +5, its Obama 41 McCain 41.
Another sign of picking and choosing results that favor Obama, when it the past you have tossed out polls that favored in McCain to use ones with Barr/Nader included instead.
Barry, Nate's treatment of the NV poll is only the start.
"the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" This is so obviously a metaphor suggesting that Obama (the quick brown fox) will leap past McCain (the lazy dog) during the coming. This is yet another -- and perhaps the most egregious -- example of Nate's pro-Obama bias. It's outrageous!
Even after what we've already witnessed tonight, CNN is still at it with relentless concern trolling, in particular, Wolf Blitzer, John King, and the unbelievably insufferable David Gergen. They just won't give it a rest. They also deliberately snub non-primetime speakers. Evan Bayh was on the VP shortlist for fuck's sake. I'd also like to have heard Patrick Murphy & Veterans. CNN and FOX have been a disgrace all week.
TIME POLL (pre-convention):
Colorado: McCain 47 - 46
Nevada: Obama 49 - 44
New Mexico: Obama 53-40
Pennsylvania: Obama 48-43
BTW, Brian Schweitzer was an absolute joy as a guest earlier on. His command of the CNN interactive electoral map was mesterful.
I see I didn't have to worry about Bill Clinton after all. I'll bet he went to a quiet room, lit a cigar, and said "that'll shut 'em up". I forgot how good a speaker he is.
It does make me nervous when he calls Jill Biden fabulous, though.
Matthew H, I thought you were going to say "Poor Biden" because he had to speak after Bill Clinton. It's like a rock band having to go on stage after having Bruce Springsteen as a your warm-up act.
Say what you will about Bill (and I said a lot of things about him during the primaries) but he rocked the shit tonight. The island that the dwindling ranks of the hardcore PUMA freakazoids are living on just got a lot smaller.
I thought it was obvious that's what I meant, Sedi.
The good news for Biden, Kerry is speaking now. Hmmm, I was going to say that Kerry is terrible, but he's getting warmed up. "Talk about being for it before you were against it".
Kerry really took the gloves off and with substance and intelligence. Sadly lacking so far in this campaign so far. Nearly as good as Hillary. Better than Giuliani will do.
"I thought it was obvious that's what I meant, Sedi."
I was a little thrown off by the last line where you referenced Jill Biden.
We are in agreement -- following Bill would be an unenviable task. Kerry certainly held his own, however. I never really liked him as a candidate, but he gets a bit of a bum rap. What I saw of his speech was excellent.
Barry, Nate's treatment of the NV poll is only the start. This is yet another -- and perhaps the most egregious -- example of Nate's pro-Obama bias. It's outrageous!"
Hey! If you don't like the site and think Nate is biased and "it's outrageous!" Then WTF are you doing here?
WTF are you doing wasting our time with your drivel?
There's a whole World Wide Web out there, or haven't you heard of it?
Why don't you go somewhere that's NOT "biased" or "outrageous?"
No need to come here and tell us how "biased" it is and how "outrageous" Nate is!
You contribute nothing and you're a complete waste of time.
Barry, Nate's treatment of the NV poll is only the start. This is yet another -- and perhaps the most egregious -- example of Nate's pro-Obama bias. It's outrageous!"
Hey! If you don't like the site and think Nate is biased and "it's outrageous!" Then WTF are you doing here?
WTF are you doing wasting our time with your drivel?
There's a whole World Wide Web out there, or haven't you heard of it?
Why don't you go somewhere that's NOT "biased" or "outrageous?"
No need to come here and tell us how "biased" it is and how "outrageous" Nate is!
You contribute nothing and you're a complete waste of time.
I took Sedi's comment as a joke, poking fun at the paranoia that so clearly infests many of the Republican trolls who infest this site.
Reading that fort of idiocy into the Quick Brown fox is a caricature of the kinds of crap that wingnuts of all persuations use. Reminds me of that old Tom Lehrer lyric to "Smut" "When correctly viewed Anything is lewd I could tell you stories about Peter Pan And the Wizrd of Oz- there's a dirty old man."
Dems are 3-3, although tonight was more of a double than a home run. But I'll bet good money that McCain noms his VP tomorrow to step on this buzz.
So McCain will eat his words? Or is this a metaphor for how the Republicans are tearing themselves apart from the inside out? Or are you calling McCain a black widow?
"Hey! If you don't like the site and think Nate is biased and "it's outrageous!" Then WTF are you doing here?"
Cugel, Uh, yeah, judas_priest was right about it being a caricature. I was mocking Barry and others who claim bias everywhere but then don't bother to actually look at the whole picture (like the fact that Nate treated all of the CNN polls the same). I thought trying to see bias in Nate's "quick brown fox" line was so over-the-top ridiculous that it couldn't be read any other way than as mockery. Apparently some of the more ridiculous folks here are so out there that my joking could be interpreted as serious. Oh, it that painful.
Anyhow, sorry to annoy you. I've made several mocking posts lately because I think some of the arguments coming from fringe right-wingers her are just inane and don't deserve serious treatment. I thought I had built up enough of an identity as a rational thinker on this site to get away with a few jokes. I'm a 538 addict, and if someone thinks Nate's model is biased then I can't imagine what model they would think is objective.
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That Nevada poll isn't Obama +5, its Obama 41 McCain 41.
Another sign of picking and choosing results that favor Obama, when it the past you have tossed out polls that favored in McCain to use ones with Barr/Nader included instead.
the lazy dog is a wanker.
Barry, they are the leaners.
Barry, Nate's treatment of the NV poll is only the start.
"the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" This is so obviously a metaphor suggesting that Obama (the quick brown fox) will leap past McCain (the lazy dog) during the coming. This is yet another -- and perhaps the most egregious -- example of Nate's pro-Obama bias. It's outrageous!
Barry will chase Nate to the gates of hell to make him change his polling data on that...
Relax, these #'s really do not matter much at this time.
Wait until mid-September...
SEDI
too funny... or is it true ?
impressed - Nate has '31 followers' right now over on the twitter feed.
I will check back laterr when something is happenning
Even after what we've already witnessed tonight, CNN is still at it with relentless concern trolling, in particular, Wolf Blitzer, John King, and the unbelievably insufferable David Gergen. They just won't give it a rest. They also deliberately snub non-primetime speakers. Evan Bayh was on the VP shortlist for fuck's sake. I'd also like to have heard Patrick Murphy & Veterans. CNN and FOX have been a disgrace all week.
TIME POLL (pre-convention):
Colorado: McCain 47 - 46
Nevada: Obama 49 - 44
New Mexico: Obama 53-40
Pennsylvania: Obama 48-43
BTW, Brian Schweitzer was an absolute joy as a guest earlier on. His command of the CNN interactive electoral map was mesterful.
Poor Biden.
I see I didn't have to worry about Bill Clinton after all. I'll bet he went to a quiet room, lit a cigar, and said "that'll shut 'em up". I forgot how good a speaker he is.
It does make me nervous when he calls Jill Biden fabulous, though.
Bill did good. Let's see what McCain and Bush can do at the Republican convention.
Matthew H,
I thought you were going to say "Poor Biden" because he had to speak after Bill Clinton. It's like a rock band having to go on stage after having Bruce Springsteen as a your warm-up act.
Say what you will about Bill (and I said a lot of things about him during the primaries) but he rocked the shit tonight. The island that the dwindling ranks of the hardcore PUMA freakazoids are living on just got a lot smaller.
Guess who is on Fox News?
Dukakis!
While Kerry is speaking.
ZZZzzz
I thought it was obvious that's what I meant, Sedi.
The good news for Biden, Kerry is speaking now. Hmmm, I was going to say that Kerry is terrible, but he's getting warmed up. "Talk about being for it before you were against it".
The good news for Biden, Kerry is speaking now
Are you kidding? This Kerry speech is BRILLIANT! Talk about substance. He's fleecing McCain!
It takes a flip-flopper to know a flip-flopper.
Kerry really took the gloves off and with substance and intelligence. Sadly lacking so far in this campaign so far. Nearly as good as Hillary. Better than Giuliani will do.
Kerry started really slow, but when he got into Candidate McCain vs. Senator McCain, I got interested. After that, he did extremely well.
"I thought it was obvious that's what I meant, Sedi."
I was a little thrown off by the last line where you referenced Jill Biden.
We are in agreement -- following Bill would be an unenviable task. Kerry certainly held his own, however. I never really liked him as a candidate, but he gets a bit of a bum rap. What I saw of his speech was excellent.
crossover between joe biden's intended audience and mogwai fans: 0.
"Sedi said...
Barry, Nate's treatment of the NV poll is only the start.
This is yet another -- and perhaps the most egregious -- example of Nate's pro-Obama bias. It's outrageous!"
Hey! If you don't like the site and think Nate is biased and "it's outrageous!" Then WTF are you doing here?
WTF are you doing wasting our time with your drivel?
There's a whole World Wide Web out there, or haven't you heard of it?
Why don't you go somewhere that's NOT "biased" or "outrageous?"
No need to come here and tell us how "biased" it is and how "outrageous" Nate is!
You contribute nothing and you're a complete waste of time.
"Sedi said...
Barry, Nate's treatment of the NV poll is only the start.
This is yet another -- and perhaps the most egregious -- example of Nate's pro-Obama bias. It's outrageous!"
Hey! If you don't like the site and think Nate is biased and "it's outrageous!" Then WTF are you doing here?
WTF are you doing wasting our time with your drivel?
There's a whole World Wide Web out there, or haven't you heard of it?
Why don't you go somewhere that's NOT "biased" or "outrageous?"
No need to come here and tell us how "biased" it is and how "outrageous" Nate is!
You contribute nothing and you're a complete waste of time.
Cugel:
I took Sedi's comment as a joke, poking fun at the paranoia that so clearly infests many of the Republican trolls who infest this site.
Reading that fort of idiocy into the Quick Brown fox is a caricature of the kinds of crap that wingnuts of all persuations use. Reminds me of that old Tom Lehrer lyric to "Smut"
"When correctly viewed
Anything is lewd
I could tell you stories about Peter Pan
And the Wizrd of Oz- there's a dirty old man."
Dems are 3-3, although tonight was more of a double than a home run. But I'll bet good money that McCain noms his VP tomorrow to step on this buzz.
So McCain will eat his words? Or is this a metaphor for how the Republicans are tearing themselves apart from the inside out? Or are you calling McCain a black widow?
"Hey! If you don't like the site and think Nate is biased and "it's outrageous!" Then WTF are you doing here?"
Cugel,
Uh, yeah, judas_priest was right about it being a caricature. I was mocking Barry and others who claim bias everywhere but then don't bother to actually look at the whole picture (like the fact that Nate treated all of the CNN polls the same). I thought trying to see bias in Nate's "quick brown fox" line was so over-the-top ridiculous that it couldn't be read any other way than as mockery. Apparently some of the more ridiculous folks here are so out there that my joking could be interpreted as serious. Oh, it that painful.
Anyhow, sorry to annoy you. I've made several mocking posts lately because I think some of the arguments coming from fringe right-wingers her are just inane and don't deserve serious treatment. I thought I had built up enough of an identity as a rational thinker on this site to get away with a few jokes. I'm a 538 addict, and if someone thinks Nate's model is biased then I can't imagine what model they would think is objective.
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