8.21.2008

Road to 270: Oklahoma

Note: Over the course of the next two months, we will be previewing the Presidential Election matchup in each of the 50 states. The previews are built around a key set of demographic variables in each state. We continue with the Sooner State, Oklahoma.

WHEN THE WIND comes sweeping down the Oklahoma plains, it sweeps Republican red. Only once since Truman – the LBJ landslide – has Oklahoma chosen a Democrat over the Republican for President. Ironically, Democrats hold nearly every statewide office (governor, AG, treasurer, education secretary, labor and insurance commissioners, etc.), but at the federal level the only Democrat is Representative Dan Boren in OK-2, and he has not endorsed Barack Obama. No wonder, then, that our projections show John McCain beating his rival by over 27% on election day.

Key Demographics



Note: Factors colored in red can generally be thought to help McCain. Factors in blue can generally be thought to help Obama. Factors in purple have ambiguous effects. Except where otherwise apparent, the numbers next to each variable represent the proportion out of each 100 residents in each state who fall into that category. Fundraising numbers reflect dollars raised in the 2008 campaign cycle per eligible voter in each state. Figures for seniors and youth voters are proportions of all residents aged 18+, rather than all residents of any age. The figure for education reflects the average number of years of completed schooling for all adults aged 25+. The figure for same-sex households reflects the number of same-sex partner households as a proportion of all households in the state. The liberal-conservative index is scaled from 0 (conservative) to 100 (liberal), based on a Likert score of voter self-identification in 2004 exit polls. The turnout rates reflect eligible voters only. Unemployment rates are current as of June 2008.

What McCain Has Going For Him

What’s not to like? Politically, this was a top-5 Bush state in 2004, and a top-5 conservative state on its Likert score. McCain out-fundraises Obama here, and 44% of the voting population are registered Republicans. There are lots of military veterans here, as well as the 2d highest percentage of white evangelicals, a group that strongly favors McCain over Obama. Social factors like same sex marriage and our vaunted Starbucks:Walmart ratio place Oklahoma in the most McCain-favorable 20%. Relative to the rest of the country, incomes are lower, the education rates are lower, but employment rates are higher. If high unemployment is thought to cut against the incumbent party and higher education rates track with Democratic voting, McCain has little to fear in those factors.

What Obama Has Going For Him

It’s a stretch to say Obama has anything going for him in Oklahoma beyond generalized wrong track dissatisfaction, which will be far from enough for him to be competitive here. Oklahoma has a relatively high (top 25%) youth population. Demographically, that’s about it. Obama has ignored Oklahoma, not visiting during the primaries or the general election so far. Despite the 50-state strategy, it would probably take a natural disaster like last year’s killer tornado that hit Greensburg, Kansas to get him to make a trip. His 31% share in the primaries foretells the eventual outcome in the general election.

What To Watch For

Watch the Senate race between Andrew Rice (D) and James Inhofe (R). While our projections show Inhofe winning comfortably and we still list the race as “Safe GOP,” recent polls have shown Rice becoming more competitive, and it’s a far closer race than the presidential blowout appears to be. Chris Cillizza focused on that race this week, noting that polls showing a tightening race (from 20 to 9 points) were not strongly disputed by Republicans. This is still a far cry from saying that Rice, a netroots favorite, will win his race. In fact, it’s a little bit reminiscent of the Brad Carson-Tom Coburn Oklahoma Senate race in 2004, which Coburn ultimately won by double digits.

In short, there's little drama in Oklahoma this year, and both campaigns have certainly chalked it up in McCain's column. It will be interesting to see whether Obama puts any organizing resources here; the campaign says it will put some staff in every state. Also, it will be curious to see whether Inhofe tries to tie Rice to Obama, and whether that strategy will finally work (it didn't in three special elections in the spring). If it were going to work somewhere, it probably would in a state that Obama has seemingly snubbed.

68 comments

Above my Paygrade said...

I am not really thrilled about the analysis of Oklahoma, but its OK.

What is the Walmart:Starbucks ratio, and who does that support?

p smith said...

If Obama can get out the youth vote, he might just flip this state blue. No?

Actually if McCain were to come out and call Obama a f****** n*****, he would still win Oklahoma by double digits.

Which is why this article is pretty anodyne.

Mule, by all means abuse Nate.

SarahLawrenceScott said...

Starbucks:Walmart ratio is exactly what it looks like: take the number of Starbucks in the state and divide by the number of Walmarts. While there is a connotation that Starbucks is a place where liberals go and Walmart is a place where conservatives go, it's probably more strongly correlated to population density. There are rarely Starbucks sitting out in the middle of farmland, and you can't have a Walmart on every corner of a big city.

Either way, though, lots of Starbucks relatives to Walmarts is a good sign for Obama. The ratio in Oklahoma is one of the lowest in the country.

Jack said...

Tying Rice to Obama might work. Though it didn't with Cazayoux, Childers or Foster, Rice is more liberal than those three. The reason it didn't work with the congressional candidates was that it was ludicrous; they were very conservative Democrats. Rice is not; rather, he's a progressive.

As a liberal, of all the Senate races, this is probably the one I'd most like Democrats to win, because of both Rice's progressive ideas and Inhofe's extreme, conspiracy theory laden conservatism (saying that global warming is the greatest hoax since the seperation of church and state, for instance), but the fact is, Oklahoma isn't too far to the left of Inhofe, and certainly far to the right of Rice. I can't see Rice winning this one unless Inhofe murders a few children.

x0lani said...

Yay! My Walmart vs. Starbucks deathmatch craving is being satiated!

Thanks Nate. Thanks Sean.

Bryan said...

Either way, though, lots of Starbucks relatives to Walmarts is a good sign for Obama.

How's Vermont going to get handled, then? 1 (zero divided by zero, sort of), or infinity?

Alex S. said...

Not much to say about Oklahoma, Obama can forget it.

I heard that Oklahoma has benefitted a lot by the oil price spike. Can anyone confirm this? The per capita income is still relatively low though.

Citizen Grim said...

Both Oklahoma's senators (Coburn and Inhofe) are stellar, from a conservative point of view.

Bret said...

Why are states like Oklamhoma so neo-fascist Right wing? How can so many people be duped into supporting the party that exploits them? What's the Matter with Kansas? What's the Matter with Oklahoma?

Jordan and Bacon said...

I'm glad the Road to 270 is back, I enjoy them. Even when they are about states that are so far out of play it isn't funny.

PeteKent said...

Nate is having a busy day. Could he have picked an easier, less interesting state? LOL

PeteKent said...

I meant to call out thtrue author -Sean!

PeteKent said...

Sean mentions the "Fifty State Strategy". Is that still operative?

x0lani said...

Yeah, there isn't much interesting to say about Oklahoma. Let's have a flame war instead! ;)

John Micklethwait at The Economist said, "Unless the party can unite convincingly and Mr Obama show the sort of courage that John McCain has, the Democrats will lose the presidency. If that happens, after Katrina, Iraq and an economic crisis, they should consider an alternative line of work."

LOL. It's funny because it's true...

dwbh said...

Gallup tracker today sez Obama 45, McCain 44.

Jackson said...

Nate is having a busy day. Could he have picked an easier, less interesting state? LOL

He said form the outset that he was going to do all 50 states.

Which state would you have preferred today?

Adam said...

Pete,

I'm curious. Do you know how many homes you own? :)

Watch the legs on this one.

Kennyb said...

Be careful about the Starbucks:WalMart ratio in New England. Dunkin' Donuts coffee rules up here.

Kennyb said...

It's a "fifty" state strategy because that sounds better than a 49-state strategy. Obama has zero percent chance in Oklahoma and local democrats do not need (or probably want) his "help" and have shown success anyway.

And Inhofe is hardly a conservative's dream. He's more like a liberal's dream, since he makes the far right look as kooky as someone like Kucinich makes the far left.

Overrated said...

How many homes? Ah yes, back to the "class warfare" rhetoric. Divide and conqueor...very effective, but is not the "same old Washington game" Obama, the Great Uniter (of those who hate the "rich").

Mule Rider said...

p smith,

Agreed. McCain could reveal that he is the Antichrist and that he plans on raising taxes on the poor and lowering them for the rich and he'd still win by several points over Obama.

So, to get on with what I'm here to do...even though Nate is not the author...

Sean, you too are a wanker.

Adam said...

Overrated,

You're right. It's Karl Rove's world and we're living in it. Since the polls clearly show wedge issues and class warfare are the way to win elections, welcome to a taste of your own medicine. This one is taking off big-time, and all you can do is whine that only you're allowed to do stuff like that.

Andy said...

I'd be interested to know whether Obama has a lead with under 30s in Oklahoma. I guess that he would have a small advantage.

RedsManRick said...

Why is a low Starbucks:Walmart ratio a mark for Obama? Am I wrong in presuming that Starbucks:Demo as Walmart:Rep? Or is it reverse because Starbucks is a sign of wealth and white collars while Walmart is working class and blue collars?

In this race, it would see that the Starbucks crowd would be more pro-Obama and the Walmart crowd more pro-McCain, despite the historical economic interests.

Jack-be-nimble said...

Please don't evaluate any state where a candidate is likely to win by more than ten points.

What a waste of time.

Adam said...

RedsManRick,

"Why is a low Starbucks:Walmart ratio a mark for Obama?"

It's not. You're reading the graph incorrectly. A blue bar benefits Obama the further to the right it is, so a short blue bar is bad for him. Counterintuitive, I know.

DarienCrow said...

That whole Starbucks/Wal-Mart analogy is a total load of crap.

I'm a Republican and I drink Starbucks all the time. I have Starbucks French Roast beans loaded in my automatic espresso machine at all times.

I never go to Wal-Mart. Feels like a flea market to me. If I go to a store like that I'll go to Target.

If Obama becomes president I won't be able to afford to drink Starbucks or go to Target at all. His taxes and entitlement nanny state programs will kill the economy. My business, like all business, depends on people having money to spend.

x0lani said...

kennyb: That's right, I forgot about him. Wasn't Inhofe "outraged over the outrage" at Abu Ghraib? And said global warming is the "greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people."

There ya go, McCain. You want to galvanize your conservative base? Meet your running mate.

Jack said...

It's a "fifty" state strategy because that sounds better than a 49-state strategy.

It really should be more like 47 states or so. It's going to be hard to make inroads in Utah or Idaho, for example, although conservative Democrats can occasionally win in the (relatively) moderate districts in the states, such as Jim Matheson (UT-2) and Dan Boren (OK-2). But I do agree with the idea of investing in other deeply red states in which the people have good reason to vote Democratic, but for various reasons vote Republican. Eventually Democrats can pick up meaningful numbers of House and Senate seats, and create new swing states that were once safely red. I'd like to win this presidential election first, though.

Overrated said...

Adam said -
You're right. It's Karl Rove's world and we're living in it. Since the polls clearly show wedge issues and class warfare are the way to win elections, welcome to a taste of your own medicine.

Adam - I know if makes you feel better that Karl Rove and his "dirty" politics always defeat the "right and noble" Dem candidate, but the reality is that Americans don't elect liberals for President. Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were not liberals in the traditional sense. You will be reminded of this again in Nov, but will hide behind the "GOP attack" machine excuse so as not to accept the truth of this fact. Watch and learn

Rachel said...

I moved to Oklahoma four years ago in the middle of the last campaign cycle.

I'd never heard the term "liberal" used as a curse word before, but it is here. Democrats can and do get elected here for a variety of things, but they are by-and-large DINOs. They have much more in common with traditionally Republican views.

While both Tulsa and Oklahoma City have been shaping up to be very modern, progressive areas (Oklahoma City has fallen onto more "best places to live" lists in the past few years than I could count) the general tone of most born-and-raised Oklahomans is very pro-military and very deeply moralistic-religious. There is no way that the Democratic party on a national level will find any success here for at least another 20-30 years.

Jack said...

How many homes? Ah yes, back to the "class warfare" rhetoric. Divide and conqueor...very effective, but is not the "same old Washington game" Obama, the Great Uniter (of those who hate the "rich").

Well, he can't be the "Great Uniter" if he loses.

yiannis said...

Forget OK, while Obama's numbers are sagging nationwide, his PA numbers are staying at 48% and another local poll has Obama up by 10 in MN.

You need to remember we're still on offense and more hungry than ever.

Adam said...

Overrated,

"I know if makes you feel better that Karl Rove and his "dirty" politics always defeat the "right and noble" Dem candidate"

No, it's atrocious and he's the worst influence ever in modern politics. But I am extremely happy to know that we have a tough Chicago politician who promises to bring a gun to a knife fight, instead of Kerry and Gore. Watch the traction this house line gets. Remember "invented the internet"? "For it before he was against it?" Enjoy your own version.

And tell me on November 5th that we don't elect liberals.

I'm out.

Overrated said...

Yes, Adam.....McCain is toast.

Virginia Conservative said...

From McCain:

"“Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses? Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people ‘cling’ to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans?”

Good luck with that route, liberals. Looks like it backfired already.

John said...

$4 million isn't even rich by McCain's own standard

and Obama actually earned his money, unlike McCain who just married an heiress...

Pontus said...

My first comment on this fantastic site. Didn't Obama go to Oklahoma in late March 2007? I really think he had one rally there. In fact I belivethe only state he hasn't been to as a part of this campaign is Alaska.

jack black said...

If this is the best Obama can come up with he is doomed. Can't understand why he wants to bring up the issue of houses. He may go to prison over his house!!

Well, maybe he can eat arugula in Federal Prison contemplating why people cling to their guns and bibles.

Reverend Wright can visit him in prison minister to him ( Maybe they will Pledge Allegience to the flag together, and William Ayres can get his old Terrorist buddies together and plan a breakout by blowing a hole in the wall.

Shap said...

"$4 million isn't even rich by McCain's own standard

and Obama actually earned his money, unlike McCain who just married an heiress..."

Yes, didn't McCain just admit that Obama is Upper-middle-class? That should show how detached he is from regular, non-UMC Americans!! He's sort of rich!!!

Shap said...

Translation of Jack Black's last post:

"If this is the best Obama can come up with he is doomed. Can't understand why he wants to bring up the issue of houses.

REZKO

ARUGULA

BITTER (not me!)

REV WRIGHT

WON'T SAY THE PLEDGE

WILLIAM AYERS

TERRORIST

MUSLIM

Love, Karl"

DarienCrow said...

No Pontus I do believe that Obama himself has told us that he has been to all 57 states.

Jack said...

Could someone spare a couple of minutes to answer my questions?

One. Is the only measure of a presidential poll the final result. I can do that by averaging the final polls.

Two.Does not the MOE of error make every poll reasonably accurate?

Three. Does this blog owner work for Rasmussen, as several have suggested. Is not Rasmussen a far right ideologue?

Four. About three weeks ago Rasmussen had McCain ahead in Ohio by ten points. Now he has it less and says McCain is gaining. Am I missing something?

Five. As an Oklahoma resident let me assure all that Obama has about as much chance to win here as I do, at 76, to win the Olympic gymnastics. Jack M. H. To distinquish from other "Jacks".

Subterranean said...

Oh SNAP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Axelrod_(political_consultant)

Note---this is the gentleman behind the Obama phenomenon, and...well...he's not a Gentile. Sorry McCainiacs. :(

Game over, Obama wins. It's all about surrounding yourself with the Chosen People.

Cugel said...

We're all just waiting for the VP selections, and there's no point commenting on Oklahoma. It will be the last state to catch up to the 20th century, sometime around 2030.

As for the VP pick, I laid out the exact same case for Hillary as Nate did several days ago: viz: all the negatives about Hillary unifying Republicans are out the door now. They're unified in total denial that they were in any way responsible for all the failure and misery of the Bush era by voting for him twice.

But, there are all the unknown Bill scandals waiting to explode like an uncleared minefield. That's why Obama will NEVER pick Hillary. There's just too much ordinance out there waiting to go off and no way to predict when you're going to step on a mine.

"McCain will follow every policy that Bush did. Therefore, McCain = Bush,

But, McCain will just do everything better. So McCain does NOT equal Bush."

That's Republican logic for you.

QED.

I wanted to get my Hillary argument in before Obama picks somebody OTHER than Hillary later today or tomorrow.

Virginia Conservative said...

Its not happening today.

Its not Hillary.

yiannis said...

VA Cons.

With liberal love from me to you:

1) I don't remember how many houses I have

2) i don't remember how I voted on female contraception

3) I don't remember that Iran trains Shiite not Sunni (3x)

4) I don't remember that tax cuts in a time of war offended my conscience

5) I don't remember that I don't know much about the economy

6) I don't remember saying that Americans are better off than they were during the Clinton administration

Above my Paygrade said...

John said, "Obama actually earned his money" He put out two, basically ghost written, ecocentric why I am savior of the world, biographies for which he recieves millions in royalties. Explain to me how this is him having actually earned his money.

Virginia Conservative said...

yiannis-

Ask Obama how many states there are in the Union.

McCain made millions from his books, the same way Obama did. Independently of his wife.

Cugel said...

Obama tip: It's NOT Joe Biden!

"I try to surround myself with people who are about getting the job done, and who are not about ego, self—aggrandizement, getting their names in the press..."

That pretty much eliminates Joe Biden right there. He's as much about getting his name in the press as Mitt "did you catch my good side?" Romney.

Looks like by process of elimination, Evan Bayh. Blah. Color me not impressed at all.

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/
08/obamas_vp_the_candidate_drops.html


"Okay, so the first qualification he mentions is someone who won't be all that interested in getting his or her name in the media. That would seem a high bar for the famously voluble Joe Biden to clear.

I think people will see that I'm not afraid to have folks around me who complement my strengths...

Obama is both gifted and precise in the way he uses language. Here, interestingly, the word he chooses is "complement," not "supplement" or "augment." This would suggest that this choice will be someone who has experience or expertise that Obama himself lacks, rather than a pick--such as Bill Clinton's of Al Gore in 1992--that reinforces his message. My guess here is that is not good news for either Governor Kathleen Sebelius or Tim Kaine. Though both have executive experience that he doesn't, their chief political assets are much the same as Obama's, in that they bring an ability to blur party lines.

I'm not a believer in a government of yes—men. I think one of the failures of the early Bush Administration was being surrounded by people who were unwilling to deliver bad news, or who were prone to simply feed the president information that confirmed his own preconceptions.

This may well be the most telling part of his answer. It sounds as though he is offering a rationale for picking someone who has disagreed with him in the past on something big, and the Iraq War immediately leaps to mind.

All that put together, if I were to guess who it would be based strictly on what Obama himself has said, I would say the pick is either Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana (low profile, both executive and foreign policy experience, but a supporter of the Iraq War), or a surprise whose name has not been circulating on the pundits' short lists."


I think we can safely eliminate all the dark horses (except possibly Reed) because they provide nothing. That's WHY they are dark horses.

Virginia Conservative said...

BTW who was the ghostwriter of Obama's books? Was it Axelrod?

RedsManRick said...

If the colors of the bars are fixed based on the nature of the issue (blue bars are "Obama issues"), and the size of the bar indicates how good/bad the issue is (short = bad news for, long = good), it would be much more intuitive for the bar to function as -/+ from a neutral midpoint and extend out to the left (negative) or right (positive) based on how the issue plays out in that that state.

lisalgreer said...

Virginia, don't make me laugh. You are kidding, right? I don't think McCain was ever head of the Harvard Law Review. Yeesh.

pluckon said...

I can't see Rice winning this one unless Inhofe murders a few children.

All he'd have to do is say they were gay children, and he'd get off. Now here's an idea: Obama's surrogates should play up McCain's adopted black children, just like Bush's surrogates did in 2000.

In racist states in the South, the argument would be that one way or the other there will be black people in the White House so you might as well vote on other issues.

Better yet, get some pictures of Cindy McCain with those black kids and pass them around. The "low information voters" that the Republican just loooooooove to exploit could draw their own conclusions.

Virginia Conservative said...

lisalgreer-

All politicians have their books ghostwritten.

President of the Harvard Law Review (or in any law school) is a POLITICAL not ACADEMIC position. Its how well you network more than how brilliant you are.

pluckon said...

By the way, the explanation for Orange County, California, and the Central Valley of California, is the Okies who migrated there in the Dust Bowl years of the 1930s. Wherever Oklahoma goes, nastiness and ignorance follows.

eltoro said...

Virginia Conservative,

The ghost writer on Dreams of My Father was Barack Obama himself.

As for the Audacity of Hope, it appears to Obama's staffers did some of the writing on the book, but most of the writing is Obama's. So Audacity of Hope was not really ghostwritten, but it has contributions from people other than Obama himself. Obama seems to have acted as the head writer on this book, rather than its sole author.

On the other hand, most of the writing on McCain's books was actually done by Mark Salter. So it appears McCain's books are more deserving of the description "ghostwritten".

To be fair to McCain, he was at least the primary source of the material that Salter actually typed out. However, the same can be said about Obama on the Audacity of Hope.

Dunno How Many Houses said...

VirCon: what law school did you go to?

Nice to see some non-Razzy polling today. NV: Obama +1 (LV), and MN: Obama +10 (LV). Nate, if you're not some sort of shill for Razz's ridiculous manipulation, I expect you'll be modifying the numbers pronto?

Ooooooooooh, ouch ouch ouch, the HOUSES. Oh, man, that's a killer. And for those of you who indicated that it came from the Obama camp, McCone's "answer" was in response to a reporter's question. He must not have gotten THAT one in advance. Body blow! Damn! I also loved the response by the McClown camp: "frickin'"? Are you frickin' kidding me? Also, mention of arugula: check; mention of POW status: check.

[sound of poll numbers plummeting]

In VP news, it's Hillary or Al Gore.

Mike F said...

Virginia Conservative,

Obama himself was the ghost writer of Dreams of My Father.

On the Audacity of Hope, Obama was at least the head writer, if not the sole one.

On the other hand, McCain's books have been mostly written by Mark Salter. So McCain's books are more deserving of the phrase "ghostwritten."

To be fair to McCain, he was at the primary source for the material that Salter wrote. However, Obama also was the primary source for the material written for the Audacity of Hope (much of it written by himself) and Dreams of My Father (where he was the sole author).

Billy Jack said...

Man, Republicans are such an effing embarrassment. How we survived 8 years with a retarded President is a miracle. How any American can vote to return the Republic Party to the White House is an effin joke. The Republic Party has no incentive to correct their ways, as long as retards like "Pete Kent", "Jack Black", "Va Conservative", and other right-wing lunatics on this board keep voting for them.

Robbie said...

billy jack, it really is a testament to how amazing this country is that we survived (even though we're in quite a few muddles), isn't it?

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