8.06.2008

The Oprah Effect, Revisited

Perhaps the most interesting work I've seen in this election is this study (PDF) by University of Maryland economists Craig Garthwaite and Tim Moore, who studied subscriptions to O! (Oprah's Magazine) and purchasing patterns in books recommended by Oprah's Book Club to conclude that Oprah Winfrey had a major -- and possibly even decisive -- impact on the Democratic primaries, netting Barack Obama more than one million votes.

I've read -- well, skimmed -- the whole paper, and it strikes me as exceptionally thorough. The thing you worry about when you are conducting one of these sorts of analyzes is that there is some latent effect that you can't capture well through other variables -- some piece of DNA that might not manifest itself in traditional demographic categories like age, income or race, but which simultaneously makes one both more likely to subscribe to Oprah's products and to vote for Barack Obama. Garthwaite and Moore do everything they can to identify such latent variables, by (for example) searching for an Oprah Effect in the 2004 Illinois Senate race (there wasn't one) and also looking at subscription patterns of other popular women's magazines.

It's pretty convincing work. And it's important work too, because endorsements are a notoriously slippery thing to study. If you come right out and ask people whether endorsements matter, they are likely to tell you 'no'. But I doubt that people are being entirely honest. It's not that they're consciously lying to pollsters -- they're lying to themselves. If you stood outside of a Best Buy and surveyed everyone who had purchased an iPod, and asked them whether their purchase decision was influenced by iPod's ubiquitous advertising, I doubt very many of them would say yes. But the reality of the situation is that Apple's slick advertising and precise branding are hugely responsible for their dominance in the MP3 market, where they succeed in selling at a high price point in spite of a product that is not all that strongly differentiated from its competitors.

As a matter of pride, people are going to resent the implication that they aren't capable of making their own decisions. And certainly, Oprah doesn't hold anyone in a hypnotic spell (her ability to get hordes of people to purchase crap like A Million Little Pieces notwithstanding). But she might get people to get up off the couch and start becoming more engaged in the election, and when they do, to perceive things through a somewhat Obama-friendly lens. The researchers found that Oprah's involvement also increased votes for the other Democratic candidates -- just not as much as for Obama.

73 comments

Matthew H said...

So...is she planning to stump for him in the General Election? I think she'd do very well for him in Georgia and North Carolina, campaigning to Christians, saying basically "I'm comfortable with Obama as my President, so you can be comfortable too".

Jack-be-nimble said...

At least Oprah has accomplishments.

sugerfunk said...

Nate,

Not to nit-pick but I really think you should include the latest Rasmussen MT poll taken July 29 -- it seems you overlooked it.

As far as Oprah is concerned, Obama needs to get her out there and campaigning in September and October if she really has that much of an impact! (I'm as surprised as anyone else about that.)

Lupercal said...

i have been quite skeptical about this study. what pundits sometimes fail to recognize is that Oprah didn't market Obama like a product. that wasn't the point. it wasn't oprah trying to sell the next new thing. The whole point of having Oprah was part of a massive Organizing effort. Obama knew that if the election came down to the usual voter, he would lose. he didn't have the right connection. and we at times forget this, but back in Iowa and NH and SC, Obama had to build his organizations from scratch. no state parties and the existing democratic structure to give him a hand. so, he had to find new voters. Oprah was part of that effort to bring people who usually don't vote, and are a bit curious, are attracted to her and couldn't pass up a chance to see her to come together in a political context, give their phone numbers, and personal info, and engage in a massive phonebanking for obama. and yes, the fact that they came provided the frame through which obama would be seen for this large swath of the population. so, it was no marketing power. just organizing facilitator. one more thing, the main opponent to obama back then wasn't policy or any personal deficiency. it was cynicism. anytime you can get people to look at you and not see the caricature of every lying, manipulative politician that ever existed, you've got a 10 feet wide opening for your policies. people won't just assimilate your policy if they don't trust and respect you. so, it was important to convey a sense of possibility. but i am highly skeptical of this "oprah got obama a million vote" thing.

Timothy said...

Is Oprah in the veepstakes?

Jack said...

Timothy:

On Letterman, Obama did a top ten list of campaign promises. His #1: Vice President Oprah.

dsalkovi said...

Jack-be-Nimble,

Please stick to facts, not slime. Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress.

Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005.

Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate.

His record is in fact quite impressive for a junior Senator from Illinois.

Most of his legislative effort has been in the areas of:

* Energy Efficiency and Climate Change (25 bills)
* Health care (21 bills) and public health (20 bills)
* Consumer protection/labor (14 bills)
* The needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces (13 bills)
* Congressional Ethics and Accountability (12 bills)
* Foreign Policy (10 bills)
* Voting and Elections (9 bills)
* Education (7 bills)
* Hurricane Katrina Relief (6)
* The Environment (5 bills)
* Homeland Security (4 bills)
* Discrimination (4 bills)

And the full details including bill numbers? See http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/obamas-senate-accomplishments/#more-6370

His accomplishments blow McCain's out of the water. Easily.

el ganador said...

Don't forget that Obama is a freaking Constitutional scholar. He taught the Constitution for 12 years at Chicago Law, and knows it inside out and backwards. That would be an amazing change from the current crew.

Jose Marichal said...

I think Lupercal is on the right track. It's not so much that Oprah affects voters perceptions of Obama (although that might happen in some cases), it's that her popularity brought tens of thousands of people out who were then deftly harvested by the Obama campaign and put into databases. If I recall, a ticket to the Oprah rally in Iowa was contingent on a promise to caucus for Obama. We sometimes forget the brilliance of the Obama campaign early on with respect to organizing. I'm surprised they didn't get all 200,000 Germans on some kind of list..then again who knows :-)

John said...

Barack Obama was also the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, earned a Juris Doctor magna cum laude from Harvard, wrote two best-selling books, and won two Grammys for the spoken word versions of his books.

No accomplishments, my ass!

Adam said...

"I'm surprised they didn't get all 200,000 Germans on some kind of list"

Well, you know, I hear from FreeRepublic he's running for president of the world...those might come in handy.

Harvey said...

Using Oprah's just a good example of targeting. You find those demographics that are inclined to support you - but haven't quite committed - and focus like a laser beam on them. Where do they live? What TV shows do they watch? What magazines do they read?

Of course, I may be putting the cart before the horse here. Oprah chose to campaign for Obama, not the other way around. But the effect remains the same.

Harper said...

Rasmussen NJ Poll - "The survey was conducted in partnership with Fox Television Stations, Inc.". I know they lean GOP, but I hope they don't always partner w Fox.

John said...

The Rasmussen NJ poll shows Obama +10 with leaners. They had him +3 last month.

moondancer said...

While the profile is different, I can't help but think that she can nullify the passive-aggressive Clinton subterfuge.

Citizen Grim said...

Wasn't there a story a few months back about how the majority of people working for FOX are Obama supporters? Just because they're less enthusiastic than Olbermann doesn't disqualify them, I dont think.

BruinEric said...

Oprah's ability to influence is incredibly high. And this isn't just in book sales -- we can see the success that "movements" have after being promoted by her. Examples would be things like "The Secret," and how guests such as James Van Praagh and Deepak Chopra gained serious traction in the marketplace based on exposure on her show.

Oprah has moved far beyond a typical talk show and is positioned as influencing her viewers on cultural and "personal well being" issues.

So her enthusiastic endorsement of Sen. Obama surely helped in the primaries and will of course help in the general election in ways that go far beyond the support of the Clooney set. She can actually get votes for him.

Jack-be-nimble said...

If you put Oprah's accomplishments next to Obama's, he looks like a preppy schoolboy.

By the way, I'm not a personal fan of Oprah's as far as her new-age pseudo-christianity. I do have to admire her business success.

Obama has never run a business and has no foreign policy credentials. In this day, the only near independent role of the executive is foreign policy.

By the way, going to school is an academic accomplishment, nothing else.

His entrance to the school was with the benefit of Affirmitive Action program. His entrance to the school, likely moved out another caucasian/asian, low income student with the same or better grades and scores.

humanist said...

I've skimmed the paper carefully and I must admit I don't understand its conclusion.

I take it that there is a very strong and interesting correlation between O! reach in its various forms and Obama supprt, controlling all otherwise demographically accessible information.

However the paper - and you, Nate, in your take on it - draws the conclusion that we have direct evidence for the causal impact of Oprah's endorsement. They voted this way because they like Oprah and Oprah endorsed Obama.

But is it not as likely that they voted this way simply because they have the otherwise inaccessible demographic characteristic of BEING OPEN TO AN OPRAH-TYPE MESSAGE? - which makes sense after all as Obama's message is not all that MUCH different from Oprah's.

If so, they would have voted for Obama to some extent with or without Oprah's endorsement - simply because they like Change We Can Believe In.

I agree that controlling for Illinois Senate would be the relevant was to go about this question - but that campaign was very different after all.

And note carefully: this is after controlling for all other demographics. It merely shows that O!'s circulation is a good indicator of something in and of itself.

tomthress said...

"The Rasmussen NJ poll shows Obama +10 with leaners."

And Nate's Regression was saying Obama +9.7. Unfortunately, I'm obsessed and spend hours here, but I'm pretty sure that I could go away for 2-3 weeks, come back, and find things exactly as they were before (only with 10,000 new posts explaining how McCain's and/or Obama's campaign had finally broken free and was guaranteed victory because of any of a thousand trivial reasons) - this race just isn't moving at all yet.

Oh, and Ras also has NY +19 (55-36) for Obama w/ leaners (v. a 538 Regression of +15.8.

tesaar said...

Gah Rasmussen has also polled NY. Obama +20 down from +31 in June but why bother with NY anyway?

Harvey said...

Citizen Grim:

I for one don't care if the pollster is the Club for Growth so long as their poll results are reasonably accurate.

Darío said...

Rasmussen pools from Nwe Jersey and Ney York.
In NJ Obama leads 52-42 with leaners and in NY he leads 55-36.

Adam said...

"Obama has never run a business and has no foreign policy credentials."

I'd say running an incredibly efficient, wildly successful primary operation with many hundreds of employees and a budget over $100 million counts as running a business.

Of course, John McCain has never run a business of your definition of any sort.

I'd say knowing that Iran isn't training Al-Qaeda, that Sunnis and Shi'ites don't like each other, and that Iraq and Pakistan don't share a border makes for quite a comparison on foreign policy credentials. Unless, of course, you want to argue being shot down makes one a foreign policy expert. You should probably let him know that so he'll stop making so many gaffes that reveal a complete lack of knowledge.

"His entrance to the school was with the benefit of Affirmitive Action program. His entrance to the school, likely moved out another caucasian/asian, low income student with the same or better grades and scores."

You have absolutely no evidence for that, and you know it. You're completely making up a smear just because you don't like the guy.

And of course, getting into to the Naval Academy entirely because your father and grandfather were admirals, and then finishing at the bottom of your class, in *no way at all* denied a spot from a more qualified applicant. Right?

David said...

Okay. We've had *FIVE* polls from New York since we've had a poll from Indiana. Arrrgghhhhh! Pollsters can be quite infuriating.

Darío said...

New Time National pool: Obama 46, Mac 41.

Adam said...

"Okay. We've had *FIVE* polls from New York since we've had a poll from Indiana. Arrrgghhhhh! Pollsters can be quite infuriating."

From what I understand, it's illegal to robocall in Indiana. As Rasmussen and SurveyUSA do entirely robocalling, it would be much more expensive for them to do a manual poll. It'd have been nice for some other firm to step up, though.

Lupercal said...

"His entrance to the school was with the benefit of Affirmitive Action program. His entrance to the school, likely moved out another caucasian/asian, low income student with the same or better grades and scores."

nah. i have to respectfully disagree. obama didn't even mention that he was AA in his application to Harvard. Mccain however wouldn't be in Annapolis if it weren't for Legacy admissions, because his gramps and dad were admirals. not that there is anything wrong with it but the fact that mccain finished 844 out of 849, i think. correct me if im wrong. oh, right. and here's actual proof.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/opinion/06dowd.html

Lorne Guyland said...

*sigh*

"Jack", I'm sure you have some proof of Obama's academic unworthiness, other than the color of his skin of course. One hint: the Law Review presidency was bestowed by his fellow students, white, black, and other.

You may wish to read up on the circumstances of St. McCain's admittance to, and graduation from, the Naval Academy -- hint: it bears a stunning resemblance to GWB's history at Yale.

I'm inclined to think Oprah's usefulness to Obama was of a get-me-in-the-door nature, and is probably played out now that he's the nominee and more of a known quantity.

PeteKent said...

Ms Winfrey ahd the good sense to sample briefly the theology at Trinity United Church and fled from it and Reverend Wright. She showed good judgment there. Why did Obama stay so long? What was the appeal?

Also, there should be a study of the Obama effect, my understanding is that it has been reported that Oprah's ratings have declined measurably since her endorsement of Senator Obama.

PeteKent said...

In NJ why is Obama running so far behind a superannuated incumbent Senator who will be 90 during the course of his next term should be get one.

Is America turning into a Country for Old Men?

Jack-be-nimble said...

Lepercan said Obama not affirmitive action. Guess again.

Obama stated just last week that he was AA. The account came up over his criticism of McCain's support of many states having initiatives ridding themselves of race-based preferences.

Adam said...

"Ms Winfrey ahd the good sense to sample briefly the theology at Trinity United Church and fled from it and Reverend Wright. She showed good judgment there. Why did Obama stay so long? What was the appeal?"

Hey Pete, the culture wars are over. You lost. The only people who still care an ounce about Wright would never vote for a black man to begin with. You're very obviously one of them.


"Also, there should be a study of the Obama effect, my understanding is that it has been reported that Oprah's ratings have declined measurably since her endorsement of Senator Obama."

Oh, really now. *Surely* you won't mind providing any source at all to back up an utterly ridiculous claim. Of course, we all know you won't.

PeteKent said...

And what up with New York?

First MA and now NY. Big declines in leads for Obama. Movement in NY seems to be to undecided.

Is that the liberal base/fringe elements feeling doubtful or are these the working class types persuaded that Obama is too arrogant? Does it prefigure a larger trend nationally as Obama's support seems to be ebbing?

noiateerickson said...

Jack-Be-Nimble...

Look at Dowd's latest article on Obama..turns out he didn't even put that he was an African-American on his Harvard application...There goes your Afirmative-Action smear....

Jack-be-nimble said...

Btw, my "AA" meant Affirmative Action, not African American or Alcoholics Anonymous.

Adam said...

"First MA and now NY. Big declines in leads for Obama. Movement in NY seems to be to undecided."

And Pete once again goes to a new low, as Obama not leading by 31 in guaranteed blue states is now a problem.

And of course, if he *were* leading by 31, Pete would be saying that since all his votes are concentrated in the northeast, he must have dropped significantly elsewhere since national polls haven't changed.

It's going to be really funny when Pete's reduced to complaining that winning 290 electoral votes doesn't give Obama a mandate.

filistro said...

I love the way Dario always says "pools" for "polls."

It sounds so Latin and sexy :-)

PeteKent said...

Adam -- do you own scholarship.

You would like to think the culture wars are over, but they are not, my freinds, they are not.

Obama has had so many curious associations over the years. Tell me with who you associate and I will tell you who they are.

It has nothing to do with racism. If it did than Obama would not have left the church. He knows he won't get the racist vote - -except among black folk.

Adam said...

"You would like to think the culture wars are over, but they are not, my freinds, they are not."

No, no, for you, my good friend, they are indeed not. You will keep fighting on against the gays and brown people until the day you mercifully die.

The rest of us, however, are moving on. It must have killed you that all his "curious associations" didn't kill his candidacy in March so you could unleash your undoubtedly much larger smear collection against Hillary.

But by all means, do everything you can to keep pushing Wright and Ayers now that it's clearly obvious there may well not be a single undecided voter left who cares at all. We enjoy being amused.

Darío said...

Sorry filistro.
Polls. Do you like it now?.

harold said...

Jack-be-Nimble -

As someone who started out in life as a very low-income white student, I find your comments inaccurate and/or unconvincing.

"Obama has never run a business and has no foreign policy credentials. In this day, the only near independent role of the executive is foreign policy."

Relatively few presidential candidates of recent years have 'run a business'. I don't think GWB can fairly be said to have successfully run any businesses; at any rate, his presidency has been a failure.

Foreign policy 'experience' is of no value to me if I disagree with the candidate's foreign policy stances. I prefer an obviously intelligent candidate with good policy proposals to a candidate who has been in the senate longer, but makes policy proposals with which I disagree.

"By the way, going to school is an academic accomplishment, nothing else."

I must vehemently disagree with this on many levels.

First of all, I disagree with your belittling of the value of academic achievement, for its own sake. I think that it is a sign of poor character to belittle academic achievement.

Second of all, of course, there is a strong correlation between academic success and financial success. Yes, of course, there are those few who succeed financially despite lack of formal education, but they are few, and fewer now than they used to be. And there are those who sacrifice some potential financial gain for teaching and research, to whom you should be grateful.

However, overall, academic achievement is virtually a prerequisite for a high probability of financial success.

"His entrance to the school was with the benefit of Affirmitive Action program."

Do you know this? If not, if it is merely a racist smear that you would direct at any African-American with an advanced education, then it speaks very poorly of you.

Even if this is true - and I believe that Obama actually had a very strong record at all educational levels, but even if it is true - research on affirmative action, such as the extensive series of studies done by UC Davis Medical School, does not indicate that being a recipient of affirmative action is in itself evidence of subsequent poor performance.

This really is an egregious smear. What could any African-American ever do to avoid it?

"His entrance to the school, likely moved out another caucasian/asian, low income student with the same or better grades and scores."

This is a laugh. It may be technically true, but anyone who was good enough to miss U of Chicago or Harvard Law narrowly will do fine.

George W. Bush, unlike Obama, is an extreme example of affirmative action ("legacy admission") lavished on a very academically undeserving individual.

I can assure that for those of us who did overcome obstacles, legacies and similar things are a far greater source of unfairness than "affirmative action".

Jack-be-nimble said...

noiateerickson said he didn't put his race on application.

You think that means they didn't know? Don't be naive.

Secondly, getting your references from a columnist is not proper form or a good idea. It would be like someone saying because Rush Limbaugh said it on his radio show meant it was true.

In Rush's defense, he is right on things more often than MS Dowd.

filistro said...

Hey, Pete just called us "my friends." Ooooh... could it be.... nah.

McCain doesn't even know how to log onto a computer. Whew.

Which reminds me... wasn't it Bill Maher who quipped that McCain is the only person on earth who can say "my friends" and make it sound like a death threat? LOL...

someperson718 said...

Oprah has said she is ready to go door to door whenever Obama asks, she is a VERY powerful woman, let's see how she will help the general.

Adam said...

"noiateerickson said he didn't put his race on application.

You think that means they didn't know? Don't be naive."

So your claim was forcibly rejected, amusingly enough on a column that came out the same day, and your response is to say that either she's just making that up, or that she's not and Harvard decided to let the person with the exotic name in anyway, because, you know, clearly that's how Harvard works. The same person, of course, who ended up graduating at the top of his class and was president of the Harvard Law Review. Clearly *he* didn't have the scores to get in. (Although, ironically enough, if he didn't have the scores to get in, his performance shows that the system they supposedly used to give a leg up to underrepresented minorities was the correct thing to do.)

David said...

"From what I understand, it's illegal to robocall in Indiana. As Rasmussen and SurveyUSA do entirely robocalling, it would be much more expensive for them to do a manual poll. It'd have been nice for some other firm to step up, though."

I dunno, SurveyUSA polled Indiana twice in April and once in June. However it is true that Rasmussen has yet to poll Indiana, so I don't know what the deal is.

It's just frustrating to see a state not get polled when, from what limited evidence we have, it appears to be a swing state. Maybe things have changed since SUSA polled Obama +1 there on 6/22, but it would be nice to have some evidence.

Harvey said...

It was my understanding that daytime TV in general suffered a drop in ratings.

Truth be told, I've never much liked Oprah anyway. But then again, I'm not her core demographic.

filistro said...

Dario... noooo, I think I like it better the other way. (But then, I always enjoy your posts anyhow :-)

Lupercal said...

"Lepercan said Obama not affirmitive action. Guess again."

it's fun toying around with you. but i don't think you really have point. i mean, you certainly don't wanna be having a discussion about who of the two candidates displays intellectual curiosity, demonstrates mental acuity, and has shown himself to be highly competent. Obama could get any job he wanted. he declined everything to serve a cause greater than himself. he accepted a meager annual salary of 27,000 bucks, i think, and an old beaten down car, went into a state where he knew no one, and there was no guarantee of success. senator mccain left the armed forces after a heroic service for his country when he understood it was clear he would not be an admiral like his father and grandfather before. he divorced his first wife, and started anew. he went into politics. got involved in a corruption scandal and had to start all over again.

if you ask anyone around this country, of the two, who's the most intelligent, they WILL say Obama. and with good reason. he had to prove everything. no rely on their public image to strike fear into their opponents. he never go bankrupt while the most famous names did: clinton and mccain. if this doesn't show a keen business sense, i don't know what will.

Shap said...

"It would be like someone saying because Rush Limbaugh said it on his radio show meant it was true.

In Rush's defense, he is right on things more often than MS Dowd."

Haha - this has GOT to be a parody of nonsensical wingnuts. Nobody's really that dense, right?

Adam said...

Shap, to be fair, Dowd is an incredible hack whose constant fluff stories are virtually always a waste of ink. I *guess* she's a bit above Limbaugh, in that she's just inane instead of harmful, but not by much.

Jack-be-nimble said...

I think Obama is race-baiting,

"McCain will say, I don't look like the other presidents on the dollar bills"

Is proof enough that he expects to be elected by some kind of convoluted Affirmative Action plan.

Until the McCain campaign called him on it, he planned to criticize any attacks on policy to racism.

John said...

New survey from HCD Research:

Republicans Report Being Disturbed, Skeptical and Angry after Viewing New John McCain Ad

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/08-06-2008/0004863225&EDATE=

Russell G. said...

Nate:

I'm no Apple-can-do-no-wrong fanboy, but you're wrong in saying that the iPod isn't/wasn't significantly differentiated from its competitors. Though the hardware itself was basically the same as other MP3 players (no FM tuner or other whiz bang features), it was the interface of the iPod and it's ease of use in it's seamless integration with iTunes (for loading and unloading music) that DID differentiate it from its rivals. The TOTAL PACKAGE of the iPod experience was more than the sum of its parts and triumphed despite a price premium and, initially, only being available for Macs.

If I might, I'd say that Obama is much more iPod like than other politicians in that, though he fulfills the function of a politician/candidate in much the same was as others, he offers a superior package of inspiration, consistent messaging (mostly...FISA...cough cough), branding, and intercompatibility (appealing to a broader swath of voters than just the party faithful and appealing to other nations).

Okay, tortured analogy over, I promise!

Shap said...

Jack-be-nimble-

I'm guessing you didn't see the McCain ad that placed Obama's face on Mt. Rushmore, and replaced Ben Franklin's visage on the $100 bill with Obama's?

What Obama said was not 'race-baiting', it was a true statement.

Shap said...

"Is proof enough that he expects to be elected by some kind of convoluted Affirmative Action plan."

And did you realize that your statement makes no sense at all? How could someone be 'elected' through affirmative action.

I guess you're just playing the race card which you've assailed so eloquently in your previous postings.

Clark Miller said...

@John -

What I don't understand about the HCD poll is why that ad slightly improved McCain's ratings among some democrats.

realistxxx said...

Forget about Oprah's endorsement.

Pawlenty praised Obama's positive and optimistic message in a speech today, and then tried to stumble back and say McCain is positive too.

The Mac campaign actually released a statement to clarify what Pawlenty meant.

A few days ago Palin endorsed Obama's energy plan.

I guess there's always Mitt.

Lupercal said...

"Uh, that would be "uber-liberal" DNA."

hello mule. perhaps you're having a little fun, but it must be a bit startling getting your hand in your granma's cookie jar. i thought you "always" wanted to have constructive discussions. hey, it's funny. but im only pointing this out to bring up the fact that all of your previous posts have kinda been attacks on other people, and then rants crucifying people who disagree with your ideological branding of their politics.

im still a big fan tough. im always thoroughly entertained by anything that you say. wether they're relevant or not.

realistxxx said...

Mule,

McCain was hoisted on his own petard 2 times yesterday and had one unforced error. All of these have been played up in the press yesterday and today.

1) Paris Hilton completely skewered him for his silly celebrity ad. She also got in so many references to his age that have to sting

2) The tire guage ploy (again silly) has completely backfired. Handled deftly by Obama in his OH town hall

3) (unfeorced error) Pimping his wife for Miss Buffalo Chip... complete with "sanitized" footage of the contest.

I think honesty in politics is so rare that it will almost always be well received. However, if you saw Pawlenty's speech, he clearly fumbled badly especially when he tried to backtrack.

Larry Parker said...

I agree that Oprah was a huge factor in getting Obama the nomination.

She helped convince voters in Iowa that Obama would be a great President. After Obama won Iowa, Blacks in South Carolina started believing that a Black man could win the nomination and the Presidency. Then Oprah made an important visit and speech to 30,000 people in South Carolina to restate her belief that Obama should win, and could win, if those listening would vote for him.

judas_priest said...

Jack-be-nimble:

Please provide a cite to document your claim tht Obama admitted that he got in under Affirmative Action. (That is what you claimed when you said:
"Obama stated just last week that he was AA. The account came up over his criticism of McCain's support of many states having initiatives ridding themselves of race-based preferences.")

Otherwise please be nimble enough to crawl back under your rock.

lilnev said...

Robocalling Indiana:

"The case centers on the 1988 Indiana Autodialer Act, which limits the use of automated phone calls. The statute mandates that a live operator first disclose the source and purpose of the call, as well as any goods or services being promoted."

and:

"Indiana requires introduction of any prerecorded message by a live operator; the message may not be played unless the called party grants permission."

So they can use pre-recorded polls, but there's an extra hassle of an in-person introduction and gaining permission.

Lupercal said...

oprah gave the SC speech before the iowa caucus. so, i don't think your theory holds up really well.

Darío said...

Thank you very much filistro.

Larry Parker said...

oprah gave the SC speech before the iowa caucus. so, i don't think your theory holds up really well.

OK, I guess I had the order in South Carolina wrong. But the point is still the same, but I will reverse the order.

1) Oprah told 30,000 people in South Carolina that Obama was the man.

2) Black voters in South Carolina, after hearing Oprah, THEN seeing that Obama won Iowa, (in part because of Oprah), decided they needed to vote for Obama.

The end result, just as in Oprah's Book Club: An Oprah recommendation leads to unprecedented positive results.

realistxxx said...

Mule,

I've seen the Paris "ad" multiple times and it is hysterical and potentially damaging.

I know if something like this happened to Obama and he was hit on his weakest points (say race although hard to imagine or being an empty suit etc.) I would be very upset... to say the least.

The McCain camp strategy appears to just laugh it off, which likely means they have no counter punch. Again, I know if this type of sharp satire was directed at Obama and getting wall-to-wall media coverage, I would not be laughing.

Edward said...

I read the paper over the weekend & found it to be very reasonable technically. I thought there might be some confounding between Oprah's influence & propensity to contribute to Obama. They provided a reasonable analysis that Oprah's effect was something else, and their pre-endorsement analysis of the Oprah effect with Obama's senate primary campaign was pretty convincing.

That being said, this appears to have limited applicability to evaluating endorsements in general. I think the key factor that made Oprah effective was that there was little policy difference between the two candidates. It is doubtful an endorsement would be as effective between Obama & McCain for example.

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