Fresh numbers in from Gallup show Barack Obama emerging with a 6-point lead over his Republican rival.
Rasmussen does not yet show a discernible bounce -- their poll still has the race tied. But they also hint that, based on a review of their day-by-day results, an Obama bounce may be coming:Reviewing recent single-night polling data—rather than the three-day average--shows that Obama lost ground immediately following the selection of Joe Biden as his running mate. That had little or nothing to do with Biden and everything to do with the fact that the running mate was not named Hillary Clinton. The impact of that choice was reflected in the polling results released Tuesday and Wednesday showing modest gains for McCain.
A quick note: the conventional wisdom is that firms that weight by party ID, such as Rasmussen, will tend to show less of a convention bounce than those that don't, since some of the purpose of a convention is to sell the brand of the party rather than the candidate, which may result in short-term (and presumably short-lived) shifts in party identification.
However, events are moving rapidly this season and the impact of the convention is starting to replace the impact of the Vice Presidential announcement. New polling data shows that 74% of Democrats say their convention has unified the party and 84% believe Hillary Clinton’s speech will help Obama in the fall.
Obama’s poll numbers have improved over the past couple of nights and today’s update shows a tie race because it includes a mix of both recent trends. But it seems likely that Obama will end the convention with a modest lead over McCain. Then, of course, it will be time for the Republican Vice Presidential pick and, next week, the GOP convention.
Still, Obama has to be feeling pretty good about those Gallup numbers, as one-third of the interviews in their current sample are effectively pre-convention (conducted on Monday before Michelle Obama's speech), and essentially none of them will reflect either Bill Clinton and Joe Biden's speeces yesterday nor Obama's performance at Invesco Field tonight.
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I wonder how far his bounce will go. Time will tell.
I saw a interview with Plouffe that had him tearing his hair out at the poor quality of the dailies(especially Gallup) and many of the swing state polls.
Also they NEVER look at the top number. He said they drill into some breakdowns that tell them the real story. Any elaboration on that Nate?
First time in about 3 weeks that the libs have even a morsel of good news to hang their hat on.
Keep in mind that Gallup is still using registered voters and registered voters don't vote. Likely and Certain voters vote. It is mostly that reason that Ras has it a tie, not the party id.
Big deal. He's gone up 3 pts. in basically a week and half of hype.
He can't break 50%. He can't close the deal with the American people, and his posing as a Greek god tonight won't help things.
Barackcropolis!
I imagine tomorrow's and saturday night be pretty good too. I wonder if the leak or planned and much touted ad rebuttal by McCain will affect these.
So Nate--if it continues to show this trend and it is higher than 6 or Obama breaks 50, it means it was a good solid bounce?
Virg, you are a funny man.
These will be an interesting set of numbers over the next 12 days or so though.
I am not assuming there will be a big discernable bounce under the conditions this year with the conventions on top of each other + a major holiday.
So the huge Gallup swing today is surprising, as is the hint that Rasmussen gives that a bounce seems on the way.
But as Gallup noted in today's release, the +6 is a pre-bounce because:
"the final "official" post-convention bounce used in comparison with other recent conventions will not be tabulated by Gallup until interviewing for Friday through Sunday is completed (reported next Monday on gallup.com)."
so we will have to wait until the GOPer party starts to see where the DEM #'s shake out.
Still for a pollster who is +2 McCain 'house effect' such as Gallup today's news is of interest at least for a trend.
RR with a 'house effect' of +3 McCain starting to trend up already is also better than anticipated IMO.
Keep up the good work on the ground in Denver, Nate & Sean !
And if McCain choose Lieberman he´s a toast.
Wow that's a HUGE bounce! and it only comes after Hillary's speech. I'm wondering what it'll look like after Bill and Biden speech and Obama's walk on.
When I made that joke yesterday (overhyping Obama's jump from -2 to +1 in the Gallup in the style of PeteKent) I said that I expected Obama to be up +8 by Friday - picking a figure that I thought was far too high. With the jump he has shown (remember that the +6 is a three-day rolling average) he must have gotten more than +10 is yesterday's polling.
I will be surprised if my "prediction" were to come true, but I will not be shocked the way I would have been looking at it from yesterday.
Via Abinder--Pawlenty is canceling interviews for today. I think this is the beginning of the leak guys. By six we will know who it is or be close to certain.
So I guess Obama can use his speech to brand the ticket too.
The election will tilt further and further toward an Obama blowout. The repugs have a counter timing the next Biden gaffe, they could better be preparing for the next McCain hissy fit.
The Time magazine tantrum-interview shows McCain is not level-headed. He is an incontinent curmudgeon, who does not have the patience or judgment to handle unscreened interview questions, let alone be president. Americans are starting to see this clearly.
Good to know!
FYI Nate: Your link to Gallup is wrong (looks like it's pointing to the form to make posts on this blog! No luck guessing your password though =P )
@vc: 48% with 10% undecideds, it is fair to assume Obama breaks 50, not to mention in recent american presidential elections a candidate rarely breaks 50 before election night (take a look at ramusssen and Gallup polls for 2004 & 2000, bush almost never broke 50)
@moondancer: Do you have link to that interview?
If he's up to 51-52% and stays there for three days or so, I'll be worried Christopher.
Pawently?.
A boring man from a boring blue state.
He doesn´t help him.
This hints at a solid bounce in the (admittedly crappy) Gallup daily. Gallup doesn't release the actual daily numbers, only the 3-day average. However, given the stability of the trand before yesterday, it's probably a reasonable assumption that the individual daily numbers were probably around 45-45 for the last week or so. If that is the case, yesterday's numbers would need to have been something around 54-36 to push the 3-day average up to 48-42.
This may of course be all bunk, but the basic math would be pushing Obama up over 50 and McCain under 40. Still useless from a projection perspective, but very nice from a PR perspective.
Big deal? Maybe. The numbers themselves don't matter but the reasons for them changing could.
There were quite a few Clinton supporters holding out until the convention, and quite possibly waiting for the endorsements that Billary provided over the last two days. This is no big news to anyone, it's been discussed widely, and the Republicans have been gloating over it.
Well, it could be that this is coming to an end, and the same Republicans have now taken to whistling past the graveyard.
With two months to go anything can happen, but this could very well be more than just a convention bounce. And really, the Obama team hasn't even started going after McCain yet.