Dan Riehl of Riehl World View, whom I directed some criticism at the other night over the New Yorker cover faux-controversy, writes in.
Here's from my original post:Hence, the irony of the cover art. (The right's favorite punchline about the cover seems to be, "all humor has it's basis in reality" [sic]. To which I'd ask: what part has the basis in reality? The terrorist part or the terrorist part?)
Here is the passage I quoted from Dan in fuller context:"Oh, and lest someone else forget to point it out ... all humor has its basis in reality. Evidently the article doesn't, as it suggests the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy has been painting Obama to fit the cover. Since when has Hillary been considered part of that?"
Here is Dan (over e-mail):I don't believe Obama is a "terrorist." If you read the reality portion of my post, it's in the graph with Hillary. In other words, yes, some have tried to paint Obama as a Muslim, potentially even a terrorist sympathizer - making the satire on mark. But much of that came from Hillary and Co. not the right. Though I'd expect it in the Fall when it matters. Hopefully a careful reading will make that more clear, though perhaps not. Best -- Dan
You can determine for yourself whether I mischaracterized Dan's original argument, but I'm actually very much in agreement with the argument as he clarified it in his e-mail. An awful lot of the most vicious anti-Obama smears have in fact come from the disillusioned left. Probably not "most of" -- but as Dan says, "much of".
Certainly, the right is not without blame. Fox News was responsible for the madrassa smear, the "terrorist fist jab", and the original and widely-distributed Muslim smear e-mail has been traced back to a RedState poster.
Still, there is no site more virulently and violently anti-Obama than the ostensibly left-leaning No Quarter, which bore responsibility for spreading the "whitey" smear" and on a daily basis accuses Obama of things ranging from faking his birth certificate to encouraging pedophiles through his "Kids for Obama" website.
Moreover, there is reason to believe that the "whitey" smear may have been propagated by pro-Clinton forces that went beyond Johnson. This is from a post I drafted about a month ago and never went live with, but which seems topical now.There are no people who have to have seen the Michelle Obama "whitey" tape.
I might also add that county chairs in the Clinton campaign were caught distributing the Muslim smear e-mail.
Furthermore, there are no people who claim to have spoken with anybody who has seen the Michelle Obama "whitey" tape.
This is because the tape does not exist.
There are three people who claim to have spoken with people who have spoken with people who have seen the tape. Those people are Larry C. Johnson, Bob Beckel, and Roger Stone.
What do these people have in common?
Larry C. Johnson is a Clinton -- let's call him a Clinton enthusiast.
Bob Beckel is a Democratic strategist.
So we have two Democrats. The oddball was always Roger Stone, who is a Republican dirty tricks maestro.
Except that today, in a video posted at Barack Obama's smear-fighting website, we see that Beckel told Sean Hannity that his source was someone in the Clinton campaign:Because I have heard this from people who are not mid-level in the Clinton campaign, not at the lower level -- I've heard this from people who have a lot of credibility, to me, as serious people.
I am not suggesting that this was any sort of organized effort on the Clinton campaign's behalf. For one thing, many of the people involved may be capable of lying. For another, part of the Clinton campaign's problem was a lack of coordination, so we would probably be talking more a lone wolf sort of scenario where something went off and did something stupid without approval. But it does seem plausible to me that someone with some measure of authority in the campaign was inventing, and disseminating, these rumors.
If you want to get into circumstantial evidence, the timing of the rumors, coming at the very end of the primary process when Clinton's prospects for the nomination were slim and her campaign was desperate, would certainly seem to be more fortuitous for Clinton than the for the GOP. Her main objective at that point was to find some way to freeze the superdelegates and extend her clock, and this is the sort of thing that might have done it.
It would also make sense in terms of the degrees of separation involved. Nobody on the Clinton campaign can claim to have had access to the tape, because then the question would be why weren't they using it. But they can claim to have spoken with people who have access to the tape, and claim that those people were Republicans who were waiting to use it as an October Surprise. Why a Republican who was in possession of the tape would tell a high-level operative in the Clinton campaign about it, I don't know -- this would certainly seem to ruin the 'surprise' element -- but it provides some cover for plausible deniability.
Finally, the Clinton campaign was accused of this precise kind of behavior before -- not spreading a rumor, but spreading a rumor about a rumor -- back in November through the vehicle of Bob Novak.
Here, I suppose, is the thing. There are all sorts of reasons to be opposed to Barack Obama's candidacy. Most of them are perfectly legitimate -- you think he'll raise your taxes, you want to keep in the troops in Iraq, you think he's too young and inexperienced to handle a crisis, etc. A small minority of them aren't as legitimate: you don't like black people. You think he's part of a Muslim sleeper cell.
If you take your typical Republican, they'll have lots of these legitimate reasons for opposing Obama's candidacy. They might have some illegitimate ones too, but the basic disagreements with the Democrats on economic and foreign policy would suffice to preclude from voting for Obama. That doesn't mean there might not be some strategic benefit to their spreading smears about Obama (see Dan's warning about expecting such things in the fall), but of the Republicans who oppose Obama, I'd assume that relatively few of them do so for such reasons.
On the other hand, if you're a Democrat, that takes a whole lot of the legitimate reasons for opposing Obama off the table -- particularly as his views were in alignment with those of his leading opponent, Hillary Clinton, on about 98 percent of issues. So most of the criticisms necessarily go to character, some of which are reasonable enough ("he's too arrogant") and some of which are not ("he's a black dude").
Put differently, if you oppose Obama, it becomes much more likely that you do so for reasons related to his race, or because you believe one of the smears about his character, if we also learn that you're a Democrat. Of course, there are many fewer Democrats who oppose Obama than Republicans. But I would guess that racism, hatred and stupidity are pretty evenly divided across the political spectrum.
Tuesday, July 15, 2008
Equal Time
-- Nate Silver at 10:30 AM
Labels: controversy, obama
130 comments
It's racism. The Muslim smears persist only because Obama looks like a potential Muslim. If a white candidate with German ancestry is running, we wouldn't have 10% of the country spontaneously thinking of "Nazi" when asked for an adjective.
ha, it's also possible that this Beckel person just totally made the whole thing up himself by shifting the blame to "someone" in Hillary's campaign.
I can always claim that i hear from "someone" that obama sucks balls for fun and it can still end up on fox news front page.
it's occam's razor. either those three people just made it up and blame someone else, or, they actually heard from someone. simple as that.
The whole thing supports my thesis as relayed elsewhere that all of this race and Muslim baiting is enervating the public and they will soon tire of the baggage that Obama will bring to the Presidency.
Many of you will not want to hear this, but we don't care that Obama may be a Muslim or that he is being attacked because of his race. We want a leader who can lead us, not someone who will be constantly moored in squabbles over his race and ancestry.
Obama has made a huge miscalculation at this point in not ignoring all this stuff. He is becoming defined by it, even if people believe him and have sympathy for him. It is too big a distraction.
Our nation and our president have bigger and important things to contend with than anti-Muslim prejudice and racial animus.
It is a quagmire that Obama seems unwilling to get out of.
McCain will win because of it.
America was prepared to elect Obama President, but it quails at electing a "Black President".
He could not pass the post-racial test, let alone the Commander in Chief one.
Whaaa? Look, the charges that Obama is a Muslim are worthy of nothing more than ridicule, but Obama's father was born a Muslim. Obama's middle name, Hussein, is common among Muslims. To dump it all on "racism" is beyond naive, trending into stupid.
I know someone who has seen a tape that shows McCain sodomising young boys. Perhaps if another ten people mention this, the New Yorker will produce a parody of McCain in a 'humorous' paedophile pose.
Just satire right? A bit like McCain telling his wife that she is a trollop and a c*nt (save that that would not be satirical because it would be true)
Obama has made a huge miscalculation at this point in not ignoring all this stuff.
Actually, Obama and his campaign has pretty much ignored all of it. The media, of course, can't stop talking about it, neither can some people on the left.
Obama himself, though, has been focused on policy as you suggest he ought to be. I'm glad to hear that you approve of this approach, and I'm sure that on that basis you'll be voting for him in November.
It may sound weird, but I think the smear thing tends to help Obama. He can credibly say, see they called me a terrorist and I can prove I am not, therefore they must be lying when they say I will raise your taxes, or I am pro partial birth or live birth abortion. The credibility of the issues that need to be argued gets swallowed by the inane rants of the smear campaign.
there is a new 527 called vetsforfreedom that claims to be impartial, but says they would never support a candidate who would commit to pulling out of Iraq before being in office and analyzing whether the job is complete. Sounds like the attempt at Swiftboating Mr. Obama is beginning.
I'm with Tybalt.
Please read the speech given today by Barack Obama on Iraq and terrorism and foreign policy. It is a strong, articulate, coherent, winning strategy for our country.
Neither George Bush or John McCain have offered anything comparable.
I see the "inexperienced" argument in Poblano's commentary.
How experienced was Lincoln when he took office? About the same as Obama.
What "experience" did Bush have when he came to Washington? After 8 years of an imperial Presidency, would you trust his judgment based on experience?
What has 24 years of being a Senator given in terms of "experience" to McCain?
So Poblano, how does "experience" count in serious arguments for people to reject Obama legitimately?
Peter - you are a sad, sad person. The sadddest part is that you can not let go enough to see how your own pain has clouded your mind and influenced your actions.
I pray for you.
Nate - are you now labeling your partisan posts under 'poblano'? Not sure if it's necessary as most site visitors are aware of your political leanings.
Although you can blame Fox for the widespread publicizing of the "terrorist fist jab" dig at Obama, this might have also been a rumor-about-a-rumor left-wing reverse hit as I recount in a blog posting:
Second, and much less serious, is the "terrorist fist jab". Where did this (admittedly great) phrase first come from? I first heard about it from Andrew Sullivan, who linked to this posting at Slate which claimed that Cal Thomas at Human Events called the Barack-Michelle pound "a Hezbollah style fist-jabbing." A subsequent edit at Slate admitted that Cal Thomas had not made that accusation, but it was instead one of the commenters...but which one? As best I can tell, the only comments on Cal Thomas's post referring to a "Hezbollah style fist-jabbing" were left-wingers responding to the ludicrous accusation. Somebody, somewhere, accused Cal Thomas of a ridiculous statement...commenters responded without actually RTFA...and everything started cross-posting and a meme was born.
But it was (of course) Fox News who brought it to the air and cemented "terrorist fist jab" in our language. Thank you, E. D. Hill.