Sunday, June 22, 2008

Why Obama isn't like Dukakis

As several observers have noted recently, including yours truly, June polling has not been a particularly good predictor of November results. In four out of the last five elections, the candidate leading in the polls in June went on to lose the popular vote. The largest discrepancy was in 1988, when Michael Dukakis, 8.2 points ahead in June, would eventually lose the election by 7.8 points -- a catastrophic 16-point swing against the Massachusetts governor.

This election too could move in any number of different directions. While Obama can presently be regarded as the healthy favorite, think of what a 16-point swing would mean in this year's election. If that swing were in Obama's direction (giving him a 21-point victory when added to his current lead of about 5 points) we would project Obama to win all states except Alabama, Idaho, Oklahoma and Utah. If it were in John McCain's direction instead, giving him an 11-point win nationwide, we would have him winning 42 out of 50 states.

The way that the Republicans achieved that big swing in 1988, assisted by a couple of significant gaffes from the Dukakis campaign, was to portray Dukakis as too liberal for the American mainstream. The same basic strategic template was employed against John Kerry in 2004. However, this strategy is unlikely to work in 2008. How come? Barack Obama is already perceived as being very liberal.

In a Rasmussen Reports poll conducted last week, 67 percent of likely voters described Obama as liberal, including 36 percent who described him as very liberal. By contrast, only 45 percent of voters described John Kerry as liberal in May of 2004, and 53 percent by November, 2004.

This shouldn't be terribly surprising. Obama is best known not so much as a candidate for the Presidency, but as one for the Democratic nomination. In contrast to Dukakis, who had both Jesse Jackson and Gary Hart flanking him to the left, and Kerry, who was perceived as the more centrist, electable alternative to Howard Dean, Obama had emerged by the end of the primary campaign as running to Hillary Clinton's left (Clinton being no conservative herself). Indeed, Obama is already perceived as substantially more liberal than Kerry was even after the Swift Boat ads, months' worth of framing the narrative, and tens of millions of dollars in attack advertising had gotten done with him.

But Obama is winning.

It may be that the primary fault line in this election is not liberal versus conservative, but change versus experience. Voters might think that Barack Obama is slightly further from them ideologically than is John McCain -- but they might also think that the country has been governed for eight years by a conservative, and that this governance has failed.

It may also be that voters are more conservative in theory than in practice. According to Rasmussen, 36 percent of voters describe themselves as conservative as opposed to 25 percent who say that they are liberal. This figure is not all that different from 2004, when 34 percent of voters said they were conservative and 21 percent liberal in exit polling. But if you look at the specific issues that loom largest in this campaign, the liberal position on things like pulling out from Iraq, implementing some kind of national health care policy, and increasing environmental regulation each poll at roughly 70/30 majorities.

There is also a school of thought that voters in Presidential elections tend to base their decisions less on the ideological attributes of a candidate and more on the personal ones. Obama's favorability rating presently stands at a +25. By contrast, John Kerry rarely did much better than even on this metric, depending on the specific wording of the question.

Either way, this is a significant problem for the Republicans. If their strategy is to say "Hey! Hey! Barack Obama is a liberal!", the American public's reaction is likely to be "Well, no shit! We're voting for him anyway."

This is not to say that McCain can gain no traction at all by trying to seize the political center. In fact, in an election in which the Democrats have something like a 4:3 edge in party identification, McCain absolutely has to find some way to win a majority of independent voters, and perhaps a fairly substantial one. Moreover, while the voters appear to be ready to elect a President they perceive as liberal, they surely won't be ready to elect one they perceive as radical, and so we can expect the Republicans to continue to play up Obama's associations with figures like Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers. This remains relatively dangerous territory for Obama.

However, if the Republicans attempt to recycle the 1988 or 2004 playbooks, they will probably not find the results to their liking. And if McCain at any point refers to Obama as a "Card-carrying member of the ACLU", you can be pretty sure that this election is over.

62 comments

Anonymous said...

I haven't seen much written about it, but Obama has moved considerably to the center since wrapping up the nomination. In policy speeches and in answering town hall questions, he seems much more moderate than the "most liberal senator" that Republicans would like to paint him as.

gjdodger said...

That's normal; you run to your party's ideological wing to win the nomination, and then run as a "unifier" in the general. But I would suggest, with all due respect to Nate, that if you think McCain's supporters can't portray Sen. Obama further to the left than he's already portrayed, you're dreaming. They are going to portray him as a radical. It will be the first time--maybe since Goldwater--that a major party sought to brand the opposition's presidential candidate as someone who will seek to bring down America. It is going to be ugggg-leeeee.

Juris said...

Nate's article told only half of the story: how the GOP/McCain will try to portray Obama, including roping him to a Willie Horton type of rock and trying to sink him in Lake Michigan.

But the Obama campaign has a great deal to work with as well, tying McCain to Bush, big lobbyists, big oil, big pharma, militarism, and tax breaks for the rich.

This may well turn out to be the type of campaign that liberals have been wishing for for a long time: fought along left-right ideological lines, and that dimension dominating over 'distractors' and non-economic 'values' except the values of 'change' and caring for the interests of all the people.

Foreign reader said...

Sorry in advance for this completely, absolutely, überly off-topic comment.
I'd like to cast one more vote for the suggestion made by another foreign reader of 538 (an Australian IIRC), that Nate publishes the % of traffic that comes from outside the USA. It would surely be interesting. I'm guessing that it may be more than 10% of the total traffic of the site.

KQuark said...

The fact is that Obama will win the election because of the way the Bush administration is perceived by the American public. In every election where the incumbent power had an approval rating of less than 50%, the opposing party has been voted into power. Opposing parties have won general elections when incumbent governments have had approval ratings over 50% like in 2000, however. McBush does not have a chance to win this election.

Brenton said...

I think a better argument for why 2008 will not be a rerun of 1988 has to do with the fundamentals. The domestic economy, the foreign policy situation, and the popularity of the incumbent party are much different now than they were then; and social scientists have found that these are the best predictors of presidential vote share. These factors, rather than perceived candidate ideology, are what will win Obama the election.

Rasmus said...

Hey Nate,
you screwed up at least two sampling sizes, probably more, and forgot to add at least one statistically significant poll.
Now have fun searching for those polls :)

Your most humble and obedient servant,
Rasmus

Juris said...

Rasmus: How unkind of you. If you really want to be helpful, you could be.

I am a Fractal said...

What is a Liberal, or a Conservative, anyway?

These words come from revolutionary times. Both here, and in France, after their revolution, the people split into two major camps.

There were those who sided with the king, with the royalty, with the tyrant. they were the ones who wanted to CONSERVE TYRANNY. That's all they wanted to conserve. nothing else. just the status quo, of there being very very few wealthy and powerful, and the rest of us in abject poverty and with no power at all.

Then there were the LIBERALS. literally from the latin for "freedom," LIBERALS were for... LIBERTY... FREEDOM... basically the American way.

It is liberals who are generous. liberals are well educated, well read, more apt toward science, invention, innovation, good old american know how.

As a liberal, i want to see monopolies broken up. I believe in having a Renaissance. I don't want 1 rich family and millions in abject poverty.

I won't run away from the label that is what america stands for.

I replay the 1988 presidential debate in my head sometimes, when the man, george bush, who toppled many democratically elected leaders all over the world, to replace them with cooperative dictators had the gall to use the word 'liberal' against Dukasas as if it were some kind of curse word. I can understand that from the standpoint of somebody who has friends from the american fascist party, such as bush, who has always sided with the powerful elite few that take all of our money and freedom, something like liberty is a curse word.

but that's what america has been founded on. and i want our word back. most people in this country are liberal. they just don't know what the word even means.

Rasmus said...

"Juris
Rasmus: How unkind of you. If you really want to be helpful, you could be."

I am as helpful as Nate is to me.

Anonymous said...

I don't know. I think pointing out that Obama claims that he will bridge the partisan divide yet holds no conservative-moderate position on any major issue will help McCain who (much to the dismay of his Republican base) definitely is a liberal-moderate on immigration, climate change, campaign finance reform, etc.

Mike said...

Foreign reader, Alexa.com currently states that 90.2% of FiveThirtyEight.com's traffic is from within the United States with the bulk of the remainder from Canada and the UK. Alexa is not a perfect measurement by any means, but it is at least a good one.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/fivethirtyeight.com

Zach said...

I always thought it was a mistake to run from the Liberal name. Over the last eight years, every time the Republicans called someone a Liberal, I hoped that that candidate would just say "Yes, I am... so?" "Liberal" and "Conservative" are more brands than ideologies - who would consider today's Conservatism the same thing that was called Conservative in the 70s? By running from the name "Liberal," the Democrats have let the Republicans define their brand. Republicans have said "Conservative good, Liberal bad," and the Democrats have said "I agree" for the past 30 years. Running to the center is a necessary strategy, but where the Democrats have failed is where the Republicans have succeeded: They should be running to the center, while promoting ideas of the left, all the while calling themselves Liberals and being proud of it.

Mark said...

Fractal, the meaning of "conservative" and "liberal" has changed several times in different political contexts. There is substantial disagreement within the conservative moment about what "conservative" really means in a political sense. The conservative values of Rep. Ron Paul are considerably different from the conservative values of Pres. George W. Bush and Sen. John McCain, for instance.

Regarding the actual post by Nate, I agree with the analysis; I could be wrong, but I believe it would be unprecedented for the current ruling party to retain the White House with such an unpopular incumbent president, especially with a candidate so closely linked to him on a majority of major issues. June polling may be historically i