
I thought that South Dakota was going to be a fairly simple little state to project. But it's actually rather idiosyncratic, in ways that tend to perplex the model.
What Barack has going for him: For the most part, South Dakota is as white as a fresh snowfall over Sioux Falls. If we treat it as a congressional district (which is exactly what South Dakota is), it ranks 426th out of 435 in terms of the percentage of African-Americans. But it's also a certain kind of white -- the whites that we call "WASP"s and which represent people of German, English and Scandinavian descent. Barack Obama has tended to do well with those kinds of white people, who are also fairly prevalent in (for example) Oregon and Wisconsin.
What distinguishes South Dakota, however, is its extremely large Native American population. Nearly 10 percent of its population is in whole or in part Native American. Although Native Americans have fairly low turnout rates -- they tend to vote Democratic when they do turn out. So we can probably expect a similar share in tomorrow's electorate.
Which candidate tends to do well with Native Americans? So far as I can tell, there is no polling data on this issue. Frustratingly, in the other states with sizable Native American populations like New Mexico and Oklahoma, Edison-Mitofsky just lumped them into the "other" cateogry in its exit polling and did not break out their data.
But the regression model is fairly well convinced that this is a good group for Barack Obama. The case of New Mexico in particular might be instructive. New Mexico is a relatively poor and heavily Hispanic state, but Obama, somewhat unexpectedly, nearly tied Hillary Clinton there. He also performed much better in AZ-1, which has a huge Navajo population, than you'd anticipate from the underlying demographics. And he did exceptionally well in Alaska's caucus, another substantially Native American state.
There are, naturally, some counterexamples; Barack Obama didn't perform well in Oklahoma for instance (although he barely fielded an organization there). But the relationship is fairly substantially statistically significant, and it dovetails with anecdotal evidence that suggests that Obama's Native American outreach has been unprecedented in its breadth. Native Americans could save Obama in South Dakota -- either bringing him a victory that he might not have earned otherwise, or keeping the margin close in the event of a loss.
As an aside, Native Americans are also a reason why South Dakota might be difficult to poll. I have no idea about the mechanics of reaching someone by telephone on an Indian Reservation (reservations occupy perhaps 20 percent of South Dakota's territory). And if you're not used to polling the state, you might not know enough to recognize their absence.
What Hillary has going for her: Although South Dakota might quite be Clinton's kind of white, it still is very white. It's a fairly old state, and rather uniformly middle class. Unlike some other Western states, where the Democratic half of the electorate can actually be quite liberal, South Dakota's Democrats gravitate toward the political center. And it has a closed primary, which our model is (finally) getting around to recognize as a slight advantage for Clinton.
But Hillary probably would not be especially likely to win South Dakota if she hadn't spent quite a bit of time there. The New York Times records her as having made 10 campaign appearances in the state, an exceptionally high ratio relative to the number of delegates available. Obama (quite wisely I think) returned to South Dakota over the weekend, and so this is not a case of Obama blowing off a state like he did in West Virginia and Kentucky. Still, the advantage in time spent on the ground is worth several points to Hillary.
Although South Dakotans aren't very much like Kentuckians, there may also be some truth to the notion that these are the types of voters that Clinton is doing better with than she had been earlier in the nomination process. I played around with a whole bunch of different interaction variables related to the timing of different primaries, leading to some versions of the model that showed Clinton a few points ahead in South Dakota. However, this led to a messy model with all sorts of multicollinearity issues, so what I eventually did was to compromise by removing the interaction variables, but giving more weight to recent primaries in determining the regression coefficients.
That brought Clinton a couple of points closer to Obama, and if I'm wrong about something like Obama's performance among Native Americans, she could very easily win South Dakota (it should probably be thought of as a "toss-up"). Even a win of some magnitude (high single digits or very low double digits) would not completely stock me; I'm not saying that this is the most likely scenario, just that it's a difficult enough state to pin down that we shouldn't rule it out.
Still, this is not a state with an especial amount of affection for Clinton -- witness, for instance, her exceptionally poor fundraising numbers. Something like the ARG scenario seems completely batshit crazy to me.
Prediction: Our model's official prediction is Obama 52.5 percent, Clinton 47.5 percent, for a margin of 5 points exactly. We're also projecting distinctly heavy turnout of 130,915 voters out of South Dakota's roughly 200,000 registered Democrats, for voting tallies of Obama 68,701, Clinton 62,213, a net gain of about 6500 votes for Mr. Obama.
Delegate wise, with just one congressional district, South Dakota is completely boring. The final split will almost certainly wind up being 8-7 for one or the other candidate. A candidate would need to win by 22.2 points to get a 9th delegate, and would earn a 10th delegate if they won by 25 points. So our delegate projection is Obama 8, Clinton 7.
Monday, June 2, 2008
South Dakota Projection: Obama by 5
-- Nate Silver at 8:51 PM
Labels: demographics, primaries, south dakota
41 comments
wow. pretty impressive analysis. Thanks!
In reading some of the comments at Talk Left there seems to be a suggestion that the SD anti-abortion initiative is influencing women there to be especially grateful to Clinton presence there. They are attributing her good numbers in the ARG poll to that.
Impressive analysis as always. ARG is sort of betting the farm on the poll.
Why, Poblano, do you think that for so long everyone assumed that South Dakota would be an Obama slam-dunk?Is it the Daschle /Johnson /Herseth influence?
Thanks! Your view of approximately a toss-up is consistent with where the intrade market is at right now. In addition to competing with the polls, you could also compete with the intrade market (which is obviously influenced by the polls but could be considered a separate prediction outlet). In any case, either you or Bennett will have egg on the face tomorrow night. Ha, ha, just kidding. (One final techy point: I think almost certainly interaction effects are prevasive in actually driving the outcome. Too bad the statistical models can't include them without raising these problems. I think the error term in a lot of these stats models is really just a bunch of high-level interactions.)
One thing that may be underestimated is that Obama has had a presence in the state for quite a while with a sophisticated GOTV and that early voting has been taking place since April.
For what it is worth.
Is there a reason why the 9th delegate threshold is at 61.1% and not 60% (9/15th of the vote)?
Anon, because it's not that simple. There's pledged delegates, and then there's Pledged PLEOs.
Nate,
Last time I looked, the data by county hinted that Obama's performance among Native Americans varied highly by tribe. South Dakota and Montana should be interesting in this regard.
ARG latest poll took a few days ago Hillary 60 Obama 34, with this most recent pollong data available here
http://americanresearchgroup.com/
this projection is the most off base I have ever seen....
600 Likely voters in a small state... even if they are off 5 pts the PROJECTION is as Kool aid driven as Ive ever seen.
Sir: Just learned about this site from a friend. It is great. Are you willing to share the actual regression model (ie., with the weights, etc) that you use? I bet some of the statistical types would love that (eg., they could re-run your data, etc). But maybe you don't wanna to make the secret formula public (KFC never would).
As an Obama supporter from the Midwest, I was worried about South Dakota because it is so old and so rural. Each of these is bad for Obama to begin with, but when they go together, it is like there is an extra effect that works against him. I don't suppose that is one of the interactions you tested?
--Gerry
Interesting analysis, watching SD results come in will be fun. I'm predicting 18% MT win by Obama.
BTW, what are your current takes on North Dakota being competitive in the general? I see 30% chance for Obama but it has been mentioned by many as a possible target on the blogosphere. Any realistic chances? If so, this would be poaching McCain territory.
Also, you may want to consider making of the US slightly larger where you can click on each state and get info like demographics, pollings, etc? Might be fun and easier to do once it is down to McCain-Obama.
PS Poblano >> Nate (mystique-wise)
I could be wrong, but I think the intrade market for Clinton to win SD went down about 7-10 points in the last 45 minutes. Nate: did your post likely cause that shift? Is that possible?
Nate and others,
The California sanctity-of-marriage amendment qualified for the November ballot today. It has been suggested that this will result in a huge GOP turnout on election day. I'm curious why it's so widely suggested that the referendum will result in a bigger boost for GOPs than for the Dems (many of whom - one would think - would want to turn out to vote against the amendment).
I'd like to believe your SD projections, but you were way off on Kentucky and Puerto Rico - what makes you think you're going to be doing any better here?
I think that the people who want gay marriage banned care more than those who want it to be legal (with the exception of the gay community itself).
A couple of random questions/comments:
1. From everything I've read, Obama has done extremely well garnering endorsements from Native American leaders. But, these were primarily in NM, OK, AZ, and other SW states. Not sure if Native American support among these tribes will be a good ind