5.21.2008

Wish List

Following are the top ten states where I think we could use some fresh polling data.

10. Illinois. All the other big states get polled -- even the ones that aren't expected to be especially competitive. But Illinois seems to be taken for granted and hasn't been sampled since February. While that's understandable in Obama's case, the regression model thinks there's an outside chance that McCain could compete against Clinton in Illinois if there were a sufficient amount of backlash from Obama supporters. It would be nice to be able to test that hypothesis.

9. Connecticut. Another state that's more interesting in the Clinton scenario than the Obama scenario, but if Clinton is making progress with the white working class, it would be helpful to know if she's losing ground with the investor class. There's no better place to evaluate that than Connecticut, and previous polling had shown the Clinton-McCain matchup relatively close in this state.

7. North Dakota and 8. South Dakota. Every day that goes by, our model gives less weight to the tantalizing SurveyUSA poll from February that showed Obama four points ahead in North Dakota, and therefore his win percentage goes down there. But the Dakotas have decidedly moderate electorates, and with Obama polling extremely well in neighboring Minnesota recently, we're overdue for a check-up.

6. Massachusetts. SurveyUSA data has sometimes shown Massachusetts to be surprisingly close in the McCain-Obama matchup, whereas the only Rasmussen poll put Obama safely ahead. Getting a third opinion from a Suffolk or a University of New Hampshire would be helpful.

5. Montana. While Alaska has been polled surprisingly heavily, Montana really has not been. And yet, it might be the more plausible of the Big Sky states as it has more history of electing Democrats -- including darkhorse VP candidate Brian Schweitzer as well as John Tester and Bill Clinton (in 1992).

4. South Carolina. The Palmetto state has been polled just once, and that poll put Obama just three points behind. While we can certainly make some inferences about South Carolina based on the polling in North Carolina and Georgia, this state had a somewhat special relationship in securing the nominations of both McCain and Obama, and it would be interesting to examine the localized effects.

3. West Virginia. I was disappointed that we had a meaningful primary in West Virginia and yet didn't get a single general election poll out of it. While I don't expect the state to be competitive for Obama, it is so idiosyncratic demographically that it would help us to calibrate our estimates in other areas. And it certainly is an interesting state for Clinton on the chance that she gets the nomination.

2. Nevada. It's received considerably less polling attention than Colorado or New Mexico, and yet is just as important as a part of Obama's potential Western strategy. Moreover, it's a difficult state to get a hold on demographically, as it combines some extremely wealthy demographics with some extremely poor ones.

1. Michigan. Although Michigan has been polled some, it lags way behind Ohio and Pennsylvania in its depth of data and yet ranks second on both Obama's and Clinton's swing state lists. Particularly in light of Obama's recent visit to the state and the continuing debate over the disposition of its Democratic delegates, it would be interesting to have a better idea of where we stand.

16 comments

Rasmus said...

I would add 4 other states:
Florida:
There are a lot of polls. Either they show a Toss-Up (Quinnipac, SUSA)or a double-digit McCain lead (Rasmussen, PPP). What is true?

Indiana: You know, there are those two polls that keep the Democrats competitive. I´d like to see either a third one what would make Indiana purple, or a poll that shows McCain ahead, what would clarify the situation, too.

New Hampshire: You regression shows a Toss-Up, most polls do. Rasmussen is the outsider, first for Obama in February, now for McCain. Is New Hampshire Republican, or got Rasmussen it wrong and it´s still a Toss-Up?

New Jersey: Obamas Average is +8,6.
There are actually 7 polls. 2 show McCain ahead, one a tie, and all that keeps Obama ahead by a significant margin, is the Gannett poll. To a lesser extent this is also true for Clinton. I want new polling data on this.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Rasmus, especially about NJ. Another poll would confirm the Gannett poll and take NJ off the table or make it clear that NJ is still in play. As I recall, the Gannett poll also gave Obama a boost everywhere else through the regressions.

Sensible Person said...

Alaska has mainly been polled so much because of the competitive Senate race there (and all the pollsters being shocked by / wanting to independently verify polls showing Stevens behind). Since they're already calling people up to ask about the senate race, they figure why not ask about the presidential race, as well? (Speaking of which, I'd like to see some more CO, MN, and NH senate polls - not to mention TX.)

For the presidential race, I'd like to add to that wish list some: More Wisconsin, more NH (as someone who lives in MA closer to the NH boarder than to Boston, I just don't see McCain winning by 10 up there... the state's been trending very blue. Although McCain will run well in New England in general, because he isn't obsessed with religion). I'd also like to see more VA polls... just PLEASE nothing more from Florida!!!!

Anonymous said...

Its not a state but I'd like to see a poll in Puerto Rico.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a pollster, but being on the ground here, I can say that Obama's prospects in eastern North Dakota are very promising.

Anonymous said...

McCain could compete against Clinton in Illinois if there were a sufficient amount of backlash from Obama supporters. It would be nice to be able to test that hypothesis.

It would be nice, but not very useful, seeing as there is no way Clinton can win the nomination.

While I don't expect [WV] to be competitive for Obama, it is so idiosyncratic demographically that it would help us to calibrate our estimates in other areas.

What other areas? Seems to me the only important estimate is the Obama-McCain matchup. Because there is no way Clinton can win the nomination.

Fleisch said...

I agree with also wanting more data from IN, WI, and NH.

Of course, there's always Dilbert:

http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2008-05-08/

AllenJMears said...

re: Michigan.

Are you able to predict/project what the Obama vs Clinton results would be in Michigan using your model? Would be an interesting what-if scenario, as Clinton continues to try to shove MI/FL down everyone's throats.

Hillary: STFU already.

jonas said...

From my own conversations, work in the field, and what I know about the North Dakota/South Dakota electorate, I would not be surprised to see Obama winning North Dakota by 6-8 points at this moment in time and losing South Dakota by 5-10 points.

My basis for this is honestly slim, but Cass, Burleigh, Grand Forks, and possibly even Stark counties seem to be leaning Obama, and they comprise around or a little over four-sevenths of the population of the state. Grand Forks also has the University of North Dakota, which Obama started organizing for the fall well before the final period. Stark and Burleigh both have smaller colleges which could act to swing the margin (and Burleigh has typically been more moderate than the state as a whole). In addition, Obama should look to win about 70-80% of Sioux County, which is entirely the Standing Rock Reservation and is decently populated.

The one North Dakota caveat I have is that Minot and Grand Forks (or at least part of it), with their extremely large air force bases, went very strongly for Wesley Clark in 2004 and I think will likely go strongly for McCain in the general. That said, Obama has overperformed in military households to a surprising extent; however, the military families in North Dakota are very different: generally conservative socially and interventionist internationally.

My South Dakota guess is much less certain, but is grounded largely on the entire non-Watertown and -Souix Falls western half of the state will likely go 66-33 for McCain. This is mostly based on 2004, demographics, and a strong hunch. The South Dakota caucuses should shed a lot of light on how the state swings. If the Republican caucus' turnout is 1/2 to 2/3 that of the Democrats, I don't think Obama will invest there too heavily, because it will be hard for him to do anything of note there in the general.

Mike H in Cali said...

To the states mentioned above, I'd add Delaware (that used to be considered a swing state) and I'm also curious about what Obama's current margin in Vermont is, since the 34-point margin in SUSA's 50-state survey was Obama's biggest (bigger than Hawaii and Illinois even).

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else notice Dick "Dick" Bennett's West Virgina update? He's back at it attacking the easy target, the turnout predictions that he doesn't even bother to attempt. He's also claiming victory on his West Virginia predictions, however slim it may be.

In terms of absolute numbers compared to the actual results, he had Clinton -1, Obama -3, and Edwards -2, while Poblano had Clinton +/-0, Obama +3, and Edwards -3. If you leave out his undecideds, you get Clinton +3.2, Obama -1.5, and Edwards -1.7. Either way, it's not much better than Poblano's model, so he's essentially declaring victory by way of a tie. If he has anything to brag about, it's Kentucky, although his Oregon abortion makes up for it.

James in MD said...

I would like to see another polling of my own state (Maryland) done. The pollsters haven't been here in three months, and it would be interesting to see how the numbers look now, as this is a state where the key demographics (income levels, education, proportion of black voters) should all tilt very heavily in Obama's favor. I'd be curious (like you said with CT) to see how Hillary is polling here since she put the "populist" hat firmly on her head, and (like you said with IL) whether she'd suffer a backlash here if Obama were denied the nomination at this point. I'd also like to know whether Obama's gained or lost support here among the various demographic groups in the months since the Potomac Primary.

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