
I have beaten this particular horse to death, but if you went looking for a state that is white and working class, Oregon wouldn't be a bad place to end up. Just 1.6 percent of Oregonians are African-American (though it does have its share of Hispanic and Asian voters). It ranks below the national average in income levels while having one of the nation's higher unemployment rates.
And yet, there may be something about Oregon's political DNA that's a little different. As I mentioned previously, Oregon has the most left-leaning Democratic electorate in the country. The problem is that the relationship between ideology and voting patterns has been murky thus far in the primaries. Clinton did quite well for herself in states like Massachusetts and New Hampshire, which also have quite liberal electorates. But more recently, she has tended to excel in conservative areas.
I checked to see whether there was a time trend in the data and in fact there was. When the election cycle began, Obama was actually outperforming Clinton in Republican-leaning districts. In a district with a rating of R+10, for example (one where George Bush performed ten points better than his national averages), Obama would be expected to win by roughly 8 points. But now, the same district would be expected to go to Clinton by 8 points. Conversely, however, Obama would be expected to win a Democratic-leaning district that he might have lost before.
This helps to explain how polling in New Jersey and California, two states with fairly liberal-leaning electorates, now suggests that Obama might have won those states. But it also proved to be helpful in Oregon. My modeling was consistently showing Oregon to be a toss-up state -- leaning only slightly to Obama. And if Oregon had voted back in February, maybe it would have been a toss-up. It might be noted that in Washington's beauty contest primary (which the model does not use directly in its estimates), Obama beat Clinton by just 3 points. And Washington should be a couple of points stronger for Obama than Oregon, as it is wealthier and has a somewhat larger black population.
But now, that isn't how Oregon is likely to vote. Clinton smartly recognized that the states that were scheduled to vote late in the primary process were moderate or conservative-leaning states. As such, she has moved somewhat to Obama's right. That's going to work to her benefit in places like Kentucky, but she's liable to pay a price for it in the one Kerry state that remained on the calender, which is Oregon. Tack on a couple of points for the fact that Obama has engaged the state more actively, and he could be looking at a double digit margin.
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Apart from recognizing this time trend, I made a few additional tweaks to my model. Fundraising is now tracked at the Congressional District level, although as it turns out that you do best with a combination of local and statewide numbers. There is also a relationship between the fundraising numbers and a state's ideology; the more liberal a state's electorate, the more important the fundraising numbers tend to be. We have accounted for this effect as well.
I have also tracked candidate visits at the CD level; a visit may be split between two or more districts if the city a candidate visit straddles more than one Congressional District. As it turns out, a visit to a CD does not appear to have any strong effect on the way that the vote is divided up in that district; it only affects things in the state as a whole. However, candidate visits do appear to have a localized effect on turnout. If you think about a typical campaign event, it is probably designed more to generate enthusiasm among a candidate's supporters than to persuade undecideds, who aren't as likely to attend the event in the first place. This finding would be consistent with that characterization. You draw your supporters to the event itself, hoping to make sure that they turn out. But thereafter, you're mostly benefiting from the earned media, which is not invaluable, whose effects tend to be more dispersed across the state.
It is interesting, by the way, to see the different ways that the candidates tend to plan out the geography of their events. Obama is more inclined to double- or triple up in a particularly important Congressional District, whereas Clinton tends to blanket her states more evenly.
Finally, as Oregon has a decent number of Hispanic voters, we are accounting for that variable as well. Holding everything else like income levels constant, Hispanics perform worse for Obama than what we call our white Anglo-Saxons, but marginally better for him than certain other types of "ethnic" whites. When you see the large margins that Clinton rung up in South Texas, keep in mind that they were very similar to her numbers in West Virginia. Ethnically, the two areas are very different, but economically they are quite similar.
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Let me run through Oregon's Congressional Districts:

OR-1 (Northwest / Beaverton). We name the first district, tucked away in Oregon's Northwest corner, after the city of Beaverton, but it also includes portions of Portland. Either way, it's solid Obama country. OR-1 is Oregon's wealthiest and most educated district, its population is relatively young, and it's bohemian and gay-friendly -- all of which are favorable markers for Obama. Still, it isn't especially extreme in most of these departments as compared to the national averages, whereas its 1.3 percent African-American population is exceptionally low. It's not out of the question that Obama could get a 5-2 delegate split here, but our model thinks he'll fall a few votes short. Projection: Obama 62.1, Clinton 37.9; Obama 4-3 Delegate Win.
OR-2 (East / Bend). The second district, making up the eastern three-quarters of Oregon's land mass but only a fifth of its population, is among the most difficult in the country to characterize. It is the third-whitest district in the entire nation, it is very much blue collar, and it also has a high senior population. But Clinton has not fundraised at all well in OR-2, and it has a high veteran population, which is one of Obama's hidden bases of support. The model thinks that, had the Oregon primary been held on Super Tuesday, this district would have gone to Obama by several points. But with Clinton now overperforming in conservative-leaning districts, it sees it as a toss-up, very slightly leaning Clinton. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised to see a result as lopsided as 58/42 for either candidate in this district. Projection: Clinton 50.2, Obama 49.8; Clinton 3-2 Delegate Win.
OR-3 (North / Portland). This is the district most commonly associated with Portland, and also with Oregon's reputation for progressive politics -- it has, for instance, the highest proportion of gay households of any district not associated with a top-15 metropolitan area. In other respects, it should be slightly less favorable to Obama than OR-1; its income levels are only average, for instance. But as this is the most liberal district in the state, there are about 75,000 reasons to think he might overperform here and get to the 61.1 percent he'd need to grab a sixth delegate. Projection: Obama 61.5, Clinton 38.5; Obama 6-3 Delegate Win.
OR-4 (Southwest / Eugene). Obama has spent a lot of time in this district, and that makes a lot of sense because he'll need to turn out the student vote at University of Oregon in Eugene in order to win it and take a majority of delegates. If not for Eugene, OR-4 would be essentially indistinguishable from OR-2, although it's more urban and does not have OR-2's Republican lean. We think Obama will just squeak by. Projection: Obama 51.7, Clinton 48.3; Obama 4-3 Delegate Win.
OR-5 (WNW / Salem). Congressional Districts containing state capitals are not infrequently swing districts, and Salem's OR-5 is no exception. It's a combination of rural Oregon and urban Oregon and its demographics are similar to the state averages, producing results that should closely track Oregon as a whole. To the extent that OR-5 distinguishes itself, it tips slightly younger and wealthier than the rest of the state, but Obama remains a slight underdog to break the 3-3 delegate deadlock. Projection: Obama 56.9, Clinton 43.1; 3-3 Delegate Split.
The model is projecting an Obama margin of approximately 13 points on turnout of about 570,000 voters, which would represent around 70 percent of registered Democrats in the state. Because Oregon's mail balloting has produced relatively strong turnouts in previous elections, this turnout figure may be slightly low, but it is difficult to conceive of turnout of more than about 650,000 in this closed primary. I have, by the way, switched back to estimating turnout as a function of the age-eligible population in the district rather than the number of Kerry voters, which turns out to be the more reliable way to do it.
Unlike some previous contests, Oregon is a delegate-watcher's dream. A delegate could easily change hands in all five of its Congressional Districts, as well as a couple at the statewide level. Obama will need to win Oregon by 8.3 points to pick up an extra statewide delegate, and 16.7 points to pick up a second. Overall, however, we have him coming up just short on a couple of counts and finishing with 29 delegates to Clinton's 23.
Keep in mind that about 4-5 points of our projected margin stems from the fact that Obama has spent more time on the ground in Oregon. Without that campaign activity, the state looked to be just close enough that Clinton must have faced a tough decision about whether or not to campaign seriously there. It's likely, however, Clinton effectively decided her fate when she decided to move to the political center; an issue like the gas tax moratorium plays quite badly in Oregon. Her goal was to have a strong showing in North Carolina and Indiana, perhaps even running the table in every state but Oregon. But Oregon was probably going to have to be sacrificed to enable that strategy.
5.19.2008
Oregon Projection: Obama by 13
by Nate Silver @ 12:59 PM...see also clinton, ideology, oregon, primaries, turnout models
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Just wondering, how do you resolve recent polling from ARG and Suffolk showing the race within 5%? This is after PPP and SUSA showed 10-12% pre-WV... in those polls as well, it was seen that among those who have voted already, it was a tie, but among those yet to vote, it wasn't. I really hope the Portland Rally yesterday will drive home the need of Obama supporters to still vote to make this thing official.
Also wondering, how does one Exit poll voting by mail?
Obama should win Oregon by around 15-20 points and Clinton to win KY by 20 - 30 points.
I think you have a typo in the 2nd to last graf:
Oregon will need to win Oregon by 8.3 points to pick up an extra statewide delegate, and 16.7 points to pick up a second.
I think that should be Obama will need to win...
As usual, great post!
Kubla:
There are several issues with that Suffolk poll.
#1. Only one-third of their sample had already voted. Among those voters, Obama led Clinton by 8 points. But by this point, somewhere north of 2/3rds of Oregonians should have already mailed in their ballots.
#2. There are a lot of refusals in their survey. About 6 percent of their sample, including 13 percent of people who have already voted, are coded as "refused". I can understand if people who have already voted don't want to discuss their ballot with a pollster; some people are very sensitive about the notion of a secret ballot. But it's a little bit unusual to include them in your survey.
3. Their cross-tabs are a little odd. They have nearly half the state described as 'Southwest', when that's not where the major population centers are. They also have just 12 percent of the electorate as age 18-35, whereas SurveyUSA has the same number at 19 percent (somewhere in the 15-20 percent range looks right to me based on the exit polling in other recent primaries).
I would not give a whole lot of weight to this poll. The other errors are probably forgivable, but there's no way that just 1/3 of the state had voted when they ran these numbers over the weekend.
As for the ARG poll -- well, you know.
There won't be any exit polling in Oregon...we'll be in the dark.
One big drawback of their voting method...
About 'student districts.' In some states, e.g., Michigan, students' voting residence by default is their home town (parents' or permanent address) and not their college town address, unless they've taken the trouble to change their registration and keep it up to date as they relocate each year. They may vote absentee in their home district, of course, but they have to plan ahead or in the case of many students in MI return to their home town to vote. The effect of this is to "suppress" the student vote in the college towns and keep some otherwise liberal districts voting more conservative.
I have no idea what the rules are in Oregon but wonder whether this is a factor there. Also worth considering is that at this date a lot of colleges and universities have closed down for the academic year, so students may well be voting "at home."
The revolutionary thing is not that you introduce ideology; it's that you introduce dynamics.
What you're saying is that the race was demographically stable but ideologically dynamic. I think this is wrong.
There are two ways this could be.
One is if the ideological positions are evenly distributed across the demographics. I am pretty sure this is demonstrably false.
The other is that the ideological dynamics have been masked so far because their demographic distribution so far ended up with the various trends canceling each other out. However - so the argument would continue - Oregon has a different demographic make-up and for this reason now, for the first time, the dynamic ideology is going to manifest itself - the algebra is going to work out as an Obama plus this time though it worked out as an Obama/Clinton zero so far. You did not really present an argument for this and I doubt this myself. But is this your position Poblano? You really have to present the algebra that supports this.
The practical alternatives to "static demography, stable ideology" are two: either (1) both are stable, or (2) both are dynamic.
(1) Perhaps one should not assume any ideological dynamics. In fact, the question naturally arises from your analysis: if Clinton's veer to the right did not work in her favor in NC/IN, why should it harm her in OR? Then one should predict a narrow OR result.
(2) Or perhaps the underlying reality of this race is much more complex - subtle dynamics at work with demographics (different demographic groups did change their voting preferences, somewhat, over time; also, different demographic groups changed their propensity to turn out to vote, over time) as well as ideology (different ideological groups changing over time as above), the combination of all the subtle shifts tending to cancel each other out *on the whole*.
But perhaps somewhat less canceling out this time (primarily, one would think, because Clinton's slight improvement with low-income Whites was partly racially motivated and for this reason would be more marked in the East? Thus the demographic shift, this time, would not cancel out the ideological shift). Then one could expect a somewhat better result for Obama.
Two theories: that the race was rigidly stable; that the race was dynamic, in a complex way, with several trends canceling each other. For once, we have something like a deciding experiment tomorrow!
Given that 582K have already voted as of May 15th, it looks like you're underprojecting the vote again. The total will be about 700K.
I love your work Poblano and i have to keep refreshing from time to time to see if theres anything new.
I think, as you admitted, your turnout might be at the low end. I can see a 700,000.
Maybe not, the 700k projection is total, the above in the post is referring to the Dem voters.
SurveyUSA has new numbers and it shows a 13% pts victory for Obama too. Coincidence?
I think it's going to be a 15% victory for Obama.
Is there a pile-on effect as we get toward the end of the primary, and people start to see Obama as inevitable?
Also, I think voters are relatively stable in terms of their own ideology, but if Clinton has shifted her message to the right of Obama, we might be talking about changing perceptions of the candidates' ideologies.
FWIW, SUSA has just come out with their final Oregon poll, showing Obama ahead 55-42, the same 13 point margin Poblano predicts. Perhaps they held off publishing final results until they could check them against your predictions Poblano?
Funny, I had the same thought too Mike. However, I doubted they would do that. The president of SurveyUSA, Jay Leve, is a very honest guy.
I think your model could easily be surprised by Oregon, because while there is certainly an urban/rural split in the overall population, one thing that is different about Oregon is that rural Democrats and urban Democrats tend to be (anecdotally) a lot more similar than in other states. I wouldn't be shocked to see results in Districts 2 and 4 end up closer to results in Portland than your model suggests. I might note that there is actual data to back up my bloviating: the SUSA polls show pretty similar preferences for both the Portland metro and the rest of the state. The results will be interesting!
A note to Anon above: since Oregon is vote by mail, many college kids are registered at their parents home address. All college kids have to do is nag their parents to forward their ballots to their colleges, whether they are going to college in Oregon or anywhere else in the country. It's a heck of lot easier than figuring out how to register and finding the polling place at school. It also means that we might not see the increased support in University towns that we have in other states, simply because the college votes are being counted in the students' hometowns.
The people suggesting that SurveyUSA waited to see 538's projections before releasing their poll (and some even implied that they copied Polbano's results) are insane.
First, to question the integrity of a polling company with literally no evidence is absurd.
Second, SurveyUSA sent the results to the sponsor/client and the media before Poblano's wonderful and detailed projections. You live in a fairy tale world if you think the second that you get access to poll results is the time a poll is first released.
Jerome,
Yeah, those figures from the Board of Elections include Republican voters (and maybe even some non-partisan voters who I think get a ballot). That tripped me up before too.
Hi Poblano,
Interesting work as always. I think your model might still be underestimating turnout. Is it possible that the longer this race has gone on, and the more media exposure each candidate has received, the higher the turnout becomes? Recent contests all seem to be on the high end of turnout.
Will you be posting your county-by-county scorecards like you did for NC and IN? It was fun to compare actual returns against those scorecards.
Once again, those ballot turn-in numbers are suspect. By midday of the first day of polling, the SoS reported a 40% Democratic turnout. 77% just seems way too high.
I wouldn't necessarily discount the rest of it, but I wouldn't take the "already voted" angle seriously.
Anon,
Clinton actually has been outperforming her projections by just the slightest bit. She beat the model by 2-3 points in North Carolina, and 1-2 points in each of West Virginia and Pennsylvania. Those aren't huge numbers by any means, but they're a little something.
Other anon,
The turnout model now accounts for the fact that turnout has tended to increase over the course of the primaries. There's definitely a time trend there.
Anonymous,
I think you should chill out a bit. It was all a joke and no one is implying that SurveyUSA copied Poblano's numbers.
PPP have new numbers out and they have Obama with a 19% pts victory.
Just asking: what in the world is wrong with ARG and Suffolk polls??
Anon above (with the long methodological comment). I'm confused. Are you referring to ideological dynamics over time or dynamics across venues (states).
You wrote: What you're saying is that the race was demographically stable but ideologically dynamic. I think this is wrong.
There are two ways this could be.
One is if the ideological positions are evenly distributed across the demographics. I am pretty sure this is demonstrably false.
I don't think he has to assume that ideological positions are evenly distributed across the demographics, or even that they were somehow masked. He can assume that they are to some degree malleable for any demographic group, not fixed either for all time or over space. In previous models he assumed perhaps that the central tendency for any given demographic group (say white working class) was fairly stable in the states he had used to "train" his model; and that has proved to be a fairly decent assumption at least after he had enough prior primary elections to reduce the random error owing to a small N.
In Oregon he seems to say that for a given demographic group the Dem primary voters are likely to be more liberal than in other states. Without applying a spatial model, but making some observations from the campaigns of the two candidates (Clinton playing to the "right" of Obama, especially since PA), he expected Obama to hit the sweet spot of the Oregon liberal Dems.
Furthermore, unlike in WV where a lot of "presidential Republicans" vote in the Democratic primary, or in Indiana or Texas where there may have been some Republican identifiers who crossed over to vote for Clinton, that liberal Dem "sweet spot" isn't going to be corrupted by non-Democrats voting in the Oregon Democratic primary.
At least that's how I see it. Perhaps you could elaborate or show where I'm wrong. Thanks.
Excellent analysis!
Is Kentucky coming as well?
You are not one to show off are you? In the last four primaries, you got the delegates right in two and were wrong by only one delegate in the other two primaries. Wow!
Poblano,
I'm curious about this 16 point shift in Republican districts favoring Obama at first and now Clinton: Were you controlling for whether the contest was a primary or caucus in those calculations? I sound like someone from the Clinton camp here questioning the worth of caucuses, but how many of those R+10 districts are in caucus states?
Hah! Survey USA's latest Oregon polls match your prediction! Well done!
thanks Poblano
i love this site
To 12:08, this is the long methodological comment anonymous answering.
There is no problem with the idea of introducing a new variable. Poblano I think did change his variables somewhat from one set of projections to the next.
And the "ideology/demographics" is actually a slightly confusing notion. "Ideology" as defined here *is* a demographic criterion (it matches certain past fixed surveys, not a dynamic set of positions).
What's interesting is that Poblano for the first time assumes a dynamic analysis: certain variables have different impacts with *time*. This is difficult to square with the fact that the race was demonstrably stable with another set of variables. If you give a thought to the algebra of this you'll see why. And it then definitely assumes that this newly considered "ideology" variables is somehow supposed to have been masked in the past.
Way back on Super Tuesday, when the Obama campaign leaked their spreadsheet, they were predicting a delegate split of 28-24 on the basis of a 5% win. So I don't think there are going to be many surprises except the strength of his victory now that the nomination is assured.
Senator Obama won the WA primary by 5.55%, with King County's turnout well below the average.
A good number of those ballots were mailed on or before February 5, which is why Romney had 20% on election night, but only 16% in the final result.
The students not on campus comment doesn't appply in Oregon, even if it were an issue in a vote-by-mail state. Oregon schools are on the quarter system and arent't over until early June.
The difference between Oregon and Kentucky and West Virginia? Ummm... one's not in the South? (While Oregon will go for either Clinton or Obama this fall, KY and WV will go McCain no matter what. Neither a black man nor a white woman will do well in the general in the South.)
As for, say, Ohio, PA, and Indiana (which she barely won after being massively ahead most of the primary season), look to the mayors, as Kos says. PA's mayors and most of the PA political establishment (including Philly's mayor and PA's governor) are very pro-Clinton. Ohio and Indiana had similar dynamics.
Re: college students in Oregon, none have gone home yet, that I know of. They end the year in late May or early June.
Re: OR 4, I've lived in Oregon since 1980, 8 years of it in Eugene. I'm thinking OR 4 will be much more in Obama's camp than you think--Eugene is known all over the state for its liberal leanings, and not just on the UO campus. Hillary's shift to the middle will have alienated them.
FWIW, part of the dynamic all over the state is a pretty fierce independent streak.
I also think that Oregon should be well within double-digits. Maybe even 20 points.
I think you underestimate the 04/Eugene vote for Obama. These voters have little to no affiliation to or sentimentality for the Clintons. Eugene is a radical center of politics. I think Clinton will totally tank here. I also think that 02 voters will go to Obama much more than you have projected. There just isn't the same sort of knee-jerk racism as in WV or TN.
As a SW Oregonian (CD-4), I'd differ with a couple points. In the republican bastions of the state (Josephine county is 75% repub), the only dems there tend to be very liberal.
I'd also point that correlating conservative rural dems in eastern primaries and western primaries is problematic. Barack has consistently done well with conservative rural dems out west, and poorly with the same group out east. The change in his scores in conservative counties throughout the campaign can just as easily be correlated with the primary schedule (rural western states voted early, and then it switched to appalachia), and California doesn't count as a western state, except in the far north and southeast.
The reason, I believe, is that Clinton's are not at all well liked in the rural west. I don't know if I could pinpoint the reasons, but she is tarnished here by the Clinton brand. Rural western dems are democratic libertarians and are open minded to Barack, but typically won't even give a Clinton consideration.
Her success with east coast conservative dems, and failure with west coast 'conservative' cd's could also be correlated to the fact that in the rural West, conservative leaners don't identify as dems: ie the only dems here tend to be quite progressive. Whereas in the 'blue dog' states there is a well established tradition of conservative leaning dems.
"The people suggesting that SurveyUSA waited . . . ."
I really was just making a joke about the coincidence in numbers and timing, and perhaps paying a compliment to Poblano that this could possibly happen. I no doubt SUSA does not adjust their numbers to match Poblano. Perhaps I need to add "LOL" next time?
"The people suggesting that SurveyUSA waited . . . ."
I really was just making a joke about the coincidence in numbers and timing, and perhaps paying a compliment to Poblano that this could possibly happen. I no doubt SUSA does not adjust their numbers to match Poblano. Perhaps I need to add "LOL" next time?
fascinating how finely threaded the Clintonista needle must be, which is why so many no longer view it seriously. Following on the grand tradition of caucuses don't count, of only swing states that Clinton won count (Ohio, Penn yes, Wisconsin, Missouri no) that only big states count (but only ones that Clinton won (California, New York, yes, Georgia, Illinois no), comes the latest...only white working class voters from appalachia count (Ohio, Penn, West Virginia) not from the midwest or South or the west (Oregon, Iowa, Wisconsin, Virginia). It is going to be jaw-dropping to watch the Clintonistas spin it so conservative white voters in Kentucky (a state with 7% Af-Am that rarely goes Dem) count but white working class voters in actual swing state Oregon (less than 2% Af-Am) don't count. It is the type of pretzel logic that would make squealer from animal farm shake his head in disgust and awe.
871,922 registered Dems by the deadline in Oregon.
Link: http://blog.oregonlive.com/mapesonpolitics/2008/05/a_first_look_at_oregons_new_vo.html
With today's returns and E-Day's returns yet to be counted, 727,527 ballots returned.
Link (pdf): http://www.sos.state.or.us/elections/may202008/daily.pdf
Dems might be close to 500K of that already if the ratio is 2:1. I don't know if the Republican primary is open to indies.
I also think Obama will win OR-2 and I'm just not worried about it, based on a lot of time in Eastern Montana where the dynamics and demographics are similar. 129,774 ballots have been returned there so far, with 38,722 in the county with Medford and Ashland, and 28,392 from the county with Bend.
Hopefully the under 30 crowd will really deliver for Obama and I think that is not reflected in any numbers. So Obama by at least 18.
Hey Poblano,
Have you looked at internet usage as a variable? Here's a list of states ranked by internet usage, in increasing order:
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/reports/2008/Table_HouseholdInternet2007.pdf
58.20 West Virginia
59.73 Mississippi
60.61 Alabama
61.98 Arkansas
63.15 Louisiana
63.69 Oklahoma
65.85 Tennessee
66.67 Kentucky
66.75 South Carolina
67.31 Missouri
67.42 New Mexico
67.78 North Carolina
68.00 New York
68.03 Indiana
68.12 Texas
68.57 Montana
69.13 Ohio
69.26 Pennsylvania
69.74 Florida
69.87 Idaho
70.68 Michigan
71.73 Arizona
71.95 Georgia
72.48 Rhode Island
72.51 Hawaii
72.59 North Dakota
72.75 Delaware
72.92 Massachusetts
73.36 Illinois
73.39 Connecticut
73.40 Nevada
73.63 South Dakota
73.63 Iowa
73.64 California
73.85 Nebraska
74.08 New Jersey
74.53 Maine
74.70 Washington, DC
75.04 Virginia
75.28 Oregon
76.42 Wyoming
76.60 Wisconsin
76.72 Kansas
76.76 Maryland
78.63 Minnesota
78.89 Colorado
79.42 Vermont
80.60 New Hampshire
81.67 Washington
82.00 Utah
84.25 Alaska
Idaho is the real outlier here, but this supports my suspicion that the internet has played a big role in this race.
Something else I've observed is that there are regional variations to the voting. For example, in addition to the widely observed Appalachia effect, exit polls indicate that the pro-woman vote is very strong in the northeast.
As of 3:20 PM PST today, the ballot returns are:
453479 Democrat 52% of registrants
254522 Republican 38%
92089 nonpartisan 19%
http://blog.oregonlive.com/mapesonpolitics/2008/05/ballot_returns__5_19_08a.pdf
I think it would be hard to separate the "pro-woman" vote in the northeast from Clinton's status as a local pol, and the consequent support of the local party machinery. Not to mention that Obama went barnstorming through everything *but* the traditional Democratic strongholds in the leadup to Super Tuesday. He would probably have done better in NY and NJ if he had actually gone there (but would have lost some of his big wins out west, simply for not having the time).
The northeast was very heavily front-loaded into Super Tuesday.
I'm going by the exit polls. For 27 primaries, they've asked people whether the gender of the candidate was an important factor in their decision. Among those who say yes, Clinton generally performs disproportionately well, especially in the northeast and southwest. Below are the states for which we have exit poll data, along with Clinton's estimated net gain due to people who claimed gender was an important factor:
17.60% New Mexico
14.50% New York
11.56% Vermont
11.55% Connecticut
10.60% Massachusetts
10.12% California
9.20% New Jersey
8.80% Pennsylvania
8.71% Utah
8.19% Rhode Island
7.35% Wisconsin
6.90% Arizona
5.06% Illinois
5.06% Texas
5.04% Georgia
4.14% Missouri
3.78% Delaware
3.52% Tennessee
3.24% West Virginia
2.88% Indiana
2.16% Oklahoma
2.15% Ohio
1.44% Louisiana
1.33% Arkansas
0.63% North Carolina
-0.28% Alabama
-7.28% Mississippi
Note that gender really helped her even in states like Vermont and Utah which Obama won big. On the other hand, it was not very helpful at all in her home state of Arkansas.
The only states in which her gender hurt her, according to exit polls, were Alabama and Mississippi. I didn't see it covered in any of the MSM, but gender seems to have been at least as important as race (in terms of net votes) in MS.
Of course people might lie in these polls, but the regional trends are interesting.
Exit Polls. Unfortunately, we'll only have exit-polling out of West Virginia on the night of the Oregon/W.Va. primaries. I'll again be turning off the major cable networks to avoid listening to the garbage on TV talking about Obama's 'rural working classs white' problem (especially that dunce Norah O'Donell on MSNBC - she sounds like a broken record on election nights). D@mn I wish there waw exit polling out of Oregon to counter the stupid 'rural working-class white' argument...
As a Minnesota-living Hispanic who has about 100 relatives along the Texas-Mexico border, I can say with some certainty that there is a big chunk, maybe half, that's race. This is a function of many things, the belief among activists that blacks have taken advantage of hispanics, the desire to be seen as 'white' or more 'european' that is the legacy of Spanish-Mexican colonialism economics and generational divide.
You note that WA's primary was a beauty contest and that you didn't directly use it in your estimate. I think, and I could be wrong, that the results of the primary don't necessarily mirror how an actual primary would have gone. A lot of Obama supporters wouldn't show up because they know it doesn't count, and he didn't bother with a ground game.
I would add to the sense that Oregon just does not have that many "conservative Democrats" There are enough liberals statewide that the party hasn't needed to reach out to "Regan democrats" the vast majority of people who would have been effected by the Flag Pin/Reverend Wright/Bitter type nonsense in Oregon are Republicans!
Betcha he does better in district five than three.
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